League of Augsburg

[steamingdave]

This is a great range, but sadly in need of some generals. How long before they are available? I see there was a thread in the summer and they were said to be on the way, but still no sign.

[Leon]

The generals are all complete and with the sculptor at the moment while he finished off the Dragoons as well.  I'm hoping we'll have them here before the end of the year hopefully.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Please!

[Sandinista]

Sounds good to me, I  need a few dragons...

Cheers
Ian

[Stevem]

These figures generally great epically the more recent additions, however I've a few little issues.
1. Foot command groups have one ensign, the flags you supply generally have two flags per regiment. Is it possible to (a) have two ensigns in the group, this would meen losing one of the existing figures and creating a new mold, I don't know how thes things are done. Or ( b) offer a separate packs of say half a dozen each of the standing and advancing figures.
2. The little pack of the dismounted generals, nice but why only one empty horse between the three of them, the mold for the horse must exist and it wouldn't add much to the cost of the pack to supply a horse each.
3. Dragoons come fifteen to a pack with three command figures when mounted and thirty to a dismounted pack with three command figures. Make it six and offer dismounted horses and holders.
4. Artillery limbers plus walking crew. I like guns to exist in two states, moving and deployed.
Got all that off my chest, thanks

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Hello and welcome!

[Techno]

Welcome from me, too !

I'm sure Leon will answer your queries. 

Cheers - Phil

[Sandinista]

Hi and welcome

I use a pikeman and a cut down pike for the 2nd flag bearer, adds to the variety

Cheers
Ian

[Subedai]

Wotcha from me.

[fsn]

Hello Mr M.

Welcome to the LoA Appreciation Society.

2. The little pack of the dismounted generals, nice but why only one empty horse between the three of them, the mold for the horse must exist and it wouldn't add much to the cost of the pack to supply a horse each.

If I might answer that question, it is because they use the coach.

[Zippee]

Indeed if you look closely you can see their oyster cards tucked in their sashes 

[Leon]

1. Foot command groups have one ensign, the flags you supply generally have two flags per regiment. Is it possible to (a) have two ensigns in the group, this would meen losing one of the existing figures and creating a new mold, I don't know how thes things are done. Or ( b) offer a separate packs of say half a dozen each of the standing and advancing figures.

I don't think we'd be looking to remould anything at this point, but we can always supply extra standards if you need them.

2. The little pack of the dismounted generals, nice but why only one empty horse between the three of them, the mold for the horse must exist and it wouldn't add much to the cost of the pack to supply a horse each.

They were sculpted as a group with only one horse (and one guy holding it), more like a little vignette group.  All four pieces are in the same mould, so whilst we can supply extra horses, it's not efficient as we'd be throwing away 3 foot figures for every extra horse.

3. Dragoons come fifteen to a pack with three command figures when mounted and thirty to a dismounted pack with three command figures. Make it six and offer dismounted horses and holders.

We can supply extra command with the dismounted, just let us know when you order.  For horses we've got a variety of artillery horses and such that we can supply, but there aren't any horse holders currently.  You could use one of the artillerymen, either the chap on the left or the ramrod guy with his rod clipped off:

4. Artillery limbers plus walking crew. I like guns to exist in two states, moving and deployed.

We've got various limbers we can supply, we can check on which one's the best option from the SYW range.  I'll add walking crew to the requests lists.

[fsn]

Indeed if you look closely you can see their oyster cards tucked in their sashes 

SYW10 ... and you know it! 

[Stevem]

Thanks for the replies, I had a look online at the syw range for limbers, sadly no photos. I confess I was tempted into league of Augsburg by the pictures of the painted figures on the site. It's the drool factor that makes many of us buy more then we can ever hope to complete and the better the photos the more lead that is shifted

[Leman]

Cat and pigeons come to mind, so here's my three'appence. The Prussian SYW limbers are simple open framed triangular wheeled vehicles with four horses. If you ask Leon he will do you a deal just to buy limbers. This is what they look like:



Irregular Miniatures do a two horse in tandem limber, with a rider in tricorn on the lead horse who can be painted up as a civilian. The SYW Austrian limbers have a chest on the limber, so are probably too late for the LOA.

[clibinarium]

SYW limbers come in two types I think, one with a chest, Austrian style;



Or without, Prussian style;



There aren't any limbers or moving gunners in the LoA range because in this period guns were very rarely moved on the battlefield as they were too heavy and the equipment not yet good enough to move them fast enough to redeploy. There may have been exceptions but it was rare.

Dragoon mounts and holders are on the workbench.
Extra command figures, eg openhanded ensigns are under consideration.
The dismounted vignette; that was just a little bonus, the idea is that the mounted man has ridden up to a pair of officers on foot.

[oldblindjohn]

I believe the Swedes were the exception.

[Westmarcher]

Good photos of very nicely painted miniatures (as usual), Leman and Clib. 

For SYW, I tend to mix Pendraken's "Prussian" "A" frame and Pendraken's "Austrian" box limbers in both my Austrian and Prussian armies. This is because the Kronoskaf website goes into some detail on Prussian box limbers which, if you refer to the link below, are very similar to the "Austrian" box limbers marketed by Pendraken. Kronoskaf also lends weight to your observation, Leman, that the box limbers are probably too late for the LoA / 9 Years War as it states that the Prussian ones were only introduced in 1742. I am currently unable to find any resource giving details on the box limber design used by Pendraken for its "Austrian" SYW limbers (I thought I had come across something somewhere in the past - or maybe I'm just imagining that). Anyway, with regard to your Austrian limbers, Clib, I originally painted my own in a similar fashion. However, I was never fully happy with this thinking rain and bad weather must surely have been a problem as far as keeping powder dry is concerned. Then, when I came across Kronoskaf's Prussian limber, I found out that the lids on the ammo boxes were covered by cloth suitably waterproofed. A quick paint job with a very dark grey and now all of my box limbers (Prussian or Austrian) are 'rain proofed.' 

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=File:Prussian_M1768_Limber.jpg

It therefore appears that an "A" frame type limber may be the way to go for Pendraken's LoA range. My only reservation is that I'm not sure when draught horses started to be linked more commonly in pairs than in tandem.  Couldn't find a limber on the Blenheim tapestries but there is one with a "Marlbrouk," a Marlburian supply wagon which is being pulled by two horses in tandem so, with this being slightly later than the LoA, would it be more likely that artillery would also be pulled by horses in tandem in that period? I don't know.

Link for the "Marlbrouk" - http://www.historyextra.com/blenheim

[Leman]

I had fun trying to work out why the Prussian SYW artillery came without box limbers and discovered that box limbers were introduced for battalion guns, but that battery guns continued to use the A frame limber plus an ammo wagon.

[Grenadier]

I just popped off an order for these delightful sculpts to begin my Skane War project (I had to swallow hard when I saw the postage ).  Anyhoo, I would surely like to see the addition of "casualties", "limbers" and "wagons" to fill out the range.