Your thoughts on including artillery limbers in an army (acw)

[Fenton]

What I was getting at is that even at 3 inches long they are harder to maneuver etc, used to get sick of some players putting their cannons in almost a square formation as the rules didnt take into account all the rest of the artillery train

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Good plan!

[petercooman]

What I was getting at is that even at 3 inches long they are harder to maneuver etc, used to get sick of some players putting their cannons in almost a square formation as the rules didnt take into account all the rest of the artillery train

In my rules 2 guns are grouped togheter as a battery, MUST shoot at the same target, so putting them in different directions is a bit daft.
Buti wouldn't want to play against artillery in 'square' myself either so would not do that anyway!

[Hertsblue]

I've always used limbers on all my horse and musket forces. My batteries are all single guns, with the gun being loose so that it can be removed from the battery base and "limbered up" behind the team (on the same base) or even abandoned.

[petercooman]

Now why didn't i think of that earlier

Lovely picture by the way!!!

[Hertsblue]

Thank you. You need to be slightly careful when transporting the army, however. Otherwise all your guns wind up in a heap at the bottom of the case! 

[petercooman]

Thank you. You need to be slightly careful when transporting the army, however. Otherwise all your guns wind up in a heap at the bottom of the case! 

I have some pluck foam trays so that would work. I only glued 4 guns to their bases so not that bad actually, can still change them.

As a thought, would you guys find it 'wrong' to have for example, one battery accompanied by a limber, one by a covered wagon, one by a foield forge and so on? gives me some more variation, and allows me to use some of the stuff occasionly to represent supply trains and such 

[Westmarcher]

I've sometimes wondered if we should approach artillery batteries the same way we approach ACW cavalry units. Most of us have mounted and dismounted cavalry units with either a separate horse holder marker or tethered horses integrated on a command base (or similar). So why not have two artillery units, limbered and unlimbered? Mad in 28mm of course but surely do-able in 10mm or smaller? Horse artillery could also be signified by including a separate mounted gunner on the limbered base and dismounted gunner on with horse on the unlimbered base (using cavalry figures).

As for battery limbers, supply wagons, etc., stretching out behind the guns, some will know that this is a feature of the Republic to Empire rules (see link with image of a battery so deployed).

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/gallery/gallery-339-359.html#

[Image 8 in the Borodino 1812 re-fight game photo gallery)

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Not at all

[petercooman]

Good idea Westmarcher, but using my 40x 30 bases, i barely have room for the gun and crew so much more is undo-able:

[Hertsblue]

Horse artillery could also be signified by including a separate mounted gunner on the limbered base and dismounted gunner on with horse on the unlimbered base (using cavalry figures).

My horse artillery teams have 6 horses, foot artillery have 4 horses.

[getagrip]

My horse artillery teams have 6 horses, foot artillery have 4 horses.

Could you explain the difference between the two please,  new to this so that looks like an oxymoron. 

[Hertsblue]

Horse artillery had all their personnel mounted in order that the guns could be extremely mobile. The standard foot batteries made the gunners march on foot, slowing them down appreciably.

[getagrip]

Horse artillery had all their personnel mounted in order that the guns could be extremely mobile. The standard foot batteries made the gunners march on foot, slowing them down appreciably.

Thanks.

Does BP make that distinction?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

You're not wrong!
Horse artillery was supposed to be more mobile and supported the cavalry, often moving quickly to where guns were needed.
Foot artillery less so, but supported the infantry.

By the FPW, it just meant different uniforms!