Ottoman Turks as Crusader era Arabs/Turcomans/Byzantines?

[Jagger]

Leon, any chance we can see photos of the Ottoman cavalry codes OT3, OT5, OT7 and the OT 8, 10 and 11 bowman?  I am curious if any could potentially be squeezed into representing Crusader era Arabs, turcomans or Byzantines?  Same with the bows.

It looks like the OT4 models might be useful for ghulam heavy cavalry with mail, easter helmet or turban, round shield, lance, mace and bow.  The feathers would need to be removed but I think it might work.   So now I am wondering about the other cavalry codes.

Thanks!

[jchaos79]

check this out, maybe can help:

http://warmaster-acolytes.mforos.com/1854818/9155948-pen-ot5-ottoman-turkish-akinji-light-horse-with-bow-javelins-16th-c-ottoman-turks/

http://warmaster-acolytes.mforos.com/1854818/9094882-pen-ot10-janissaries-bow-16-ottoman-turks-arqueros-jenizaros/

catalogue in progress: http://warmaster-acolytes.mforos.com/1854818/9149890-indice-database/

[Jagger]

Thanks Leon.  Looks like the Akinji would work as well if the feathers were removed.  Although its looks harder to remove the feathers from the Akinji than the OT4 model. 
The Janaissaire bowmen won't work.

[Leon]

Thanks Leon.

Woohoo!  And I haven't even done anything yet!

I'll get some pics of those ones for you.

[Jagger]

Whoops...thanks, jchaos!   

[lentulus]

jchaos, that is a real service, thank you!

[Leon]

jchaos, that is a real service, thank you!

Very much so, I'll have to bookmark that link. 

Thanks jchaos!   

[jchaos79]

you're very welcome, we try to make weekly incomes, and also it is open to anyone who would like to colaborate or upload pics. Just sign the forum and upload them or send them to me and I will add to the catalogue

[Jagger]

Hi Leon, any luck on the Ottoman photos of cavalry and bows?  I hope to do another order sometime in September and may pick up some Ottomans if I can fit them into arab or turk crusader period.  Thanks!

[Leon]

Hi Leon, any luck on the Ottoman photos of cavalry and bows?  I hope to do another order sometime in September and may pick up some Ottomans if I can fit them into arab or turk crusader period.  Thanks!

I'll get some taken for you, hopefully before the weekend.

[Jagger]

Ok, thanks.  It will probably be another week or two before I order.

[Leon]

OT3 - Silhidars cavalry, lance:


OT7 - Tartar auxiliaries cavalry, bow/sabre:


OT8 - Sultans guard, bow:


OT11 - Azabs, bow:

[Jagger]

Thanks Leon!

I like those tartar figures.  It looks like the only figures that might fit into the crusader period are the OT4 and OT5 with modification as Ghulams and perhaps the Azab bowmen.
Maybe the tartars as allied Eastern Steppe horsemen.  I wonder if those tarter hats were common at all in the 1000-1200s.  Thanks again!

[FierceKitty]

I've got an idea that some Turkoman troops may have worn them too.

[jchaos79]

Those tartars are SUPERB!!!

I must include them in my next order.... mmmmmhhhh.... wow, congratulation to the sculptor!!! Anyway is it possible to know the Nickname or the name of the Trukish range? is just curiosity.