ACW 10mm NOT 6mm!

Started by getagrip, 29 March 2015, 08:05:56 PM

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Quote from: getagrip on 30 March 2015, 12:11:15 AM
Update :

Made my first historical PD purchase and will soon be the proud owner of a Union army  :D

Well done that man  =D> =D> =D>
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30 March 2015, 05:14:24 AM #21 Last Edit: 30 March 2015, 05:40:23 AM by Norm
For a 'quick' start, I would go for just infantry and artillery and some commanders. Pendraken also do the flags for both sides.

Longer term, if you do add a unit of cavalry, also adding a matching unit of dismounted cavalry is visually helpful.

My unit frontages are infantry on 40mm bases - 2 deep, using two bases with Kallistra hexes or 3 bases in a non-hexed game. The artillery is based on a 30m frontage and I use units of two bases.

Edit - you will also likely need to be thinking of expanding your terrain collection, particularly trees and fencing.

Duke Speedy of Leighton

Quote from: getagrip on 30 March 2015, 12:11:15 AM
Update :

Made my first historical PD purchase and will soon be the proud owner of a Union army  :D

You serious? With that many posts? What you been doing Grips!

Seriously, well done.
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getagrip

Wow, overwhelmed by the responees, a real help guys :)

As to paint, I have the entire Vallejo range so would prefer to use them.   Any suggestions for a Vallejo blue Will?
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Erm... No
965 Prussian Blue with a highlight of 930 Dark Blue?
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Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 March 2015, 08:26:44 AM
Erm... No
965 Prussian Blue with a highlight of 930 Dark Blue?

Thanks  ;)
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getagrip

Anyone know what the ratio of Zouaves was to regular troops in "general" sense?

Also, did both sides use them?

Finally, was there role mainly skirmish?

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Westmarcher

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No, but I read that the Union had about 70 regts. and the Rebs, 25.

Yes, but the Rebel regts. soon lost their distinctive uniforms as equipment shortages started to bite.

No. Treat as normal infantry regt.

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/warfare-and-logistics/warfare/regiment.html

P.S. After you've painted your first Zouave regt., you'll probably know how many more you need to paint.   :)
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getagrip

Thanks West; they do look a bit of a pain to paint. :)
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getagrip

Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 March 2015, 01:12:42 PM
Yup

Maybe just the one unit of them then.  ;)

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I wouldn't have included Zouaves to start with, although I guess they add variety with their appearance to the battlefield.  I guess they also act to draw the attention of an inexperienced opponent, so perhaps use them as cannon fodder to draw your opponents attention away from your clever and devilish plan to make your main attack with other units elsewhere.   :d

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A bit like the scythed chariots in Successor armies.
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Leman

Quote from: getagrip on 30 March 2015, 07:57:27 AM
Wow, overwhelmed by the responees, a real help guys :)

As to paint, I have the entire Vallejo range so would prefer to use them.   Any suggestions for a Vallejo blue Will?
I paint my ACW Union using Oxford Blue. I really like it for these, and both the French and Prussians in FPW. I find it a much more satisfying rendition of dark blue in 10mm than Dark Prussian Blue.
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getagrip

Quote from: Leman on 30 March 2015, 03:20:36 PM
I paint my ACW Union using Oxford Blue. I really like it for these, and both the French and Prussians in FPW. I find it a much more satisfying rendition of dark blue in 10mm than Dark Prussian Blue.

Thanks Leman.  Was there a "set" Union blue or was it really just any dark blue they had?
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Having read a lot on this topic, the consensus seems to be that government contracts were given to various contractors, all of whom used their own version of dark blue dye, which inevitably faded after a couple of months of campaigning. Paul Stevenson, in his useful little book on wargaming the ACW, states that he uses five different shades of dark blue and three different shades of light blue to paint his Union troops. I have used both Vallejo Pastel Blue and Pale Blue for Union trousers. From looking at re-enactors' trousers I think you could also get away with a light bluish grey. And don't get me started on Confederate grey!
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getagrip

Quote from: Leman on 30 March 2015, 03:36:05 PM
Having read a lot on this topic, the consensus seems to be that government contracts were given to various contractors, all of whom used their own version of dark blue dye, which inevitably faded after a couple of months of campaigning. Paul Stevenson, in his useful little book on wargaming the ACW, states that he uses five different shades of dark blue and three different shades of light blue to paint his Union troops. I have used both Vallejo Pastel Blue and Pale Blue for Union trousers. From looking at re-enactors' trousers I think you could also get away with a light bluish grey. And don't get me started on Confederate grey!

That's pretty much what I expected; there's no way all of the troops would be in a single shade of blue across several thousand troops. ;)
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Isn't it a case that early on in the war there were some Confederate troops in blue and conversely some Union troops dressed in grey?

getagrip

Quote from: Fig.ht on 30 March 2015, 03:39:59 PM
Isn't it a case that early on in the war there were some Confederate troops in blue and conversely some Union troops dressed in grey?

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Quote from: Fig.ht on 30 March 2015, 03:39:59 PM
Isn't it a case that early on in the war there were some Confederate troops in blue and conversely some Union troops dressed in grey?

Yes, but I'd have waited until getagrip had a firm handle on the basics before throwing him that curve ball :D
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