Table clutter.

[getagrip]

I use The Dice Shop for most of the dice I get these days.

If they don't have one, you probably can't get a die with that many sides or numbered like that!

Thanks Ith; they're brilliant

Job done!

[toxicpixie]

That some serious cutting edge hardware there

[Fenton]

Lovely Rapier stuff I presume Ithoriel?

What rules are you using for them?

[Last Hussar]

All you need, boy, is a brisk walk round the quad - go and report to Matron after prep
(Look, this is the Pendraken Forum, somebody needs to be a little bit brutish and unkind)¹


Leon was good enough to provide Sunjester and me with officers for WSS - individually mounted for 'First Fire' markers (ie unit hasn't fired) - I know that's gunpowder, and you specified pre, but its the idea.  Pendraken also listened to sense and made dead horses. They also do dead ACW which we have painted up for WSS - you may find that the ACW clothing can be disguised with painting.

Also it is NOT WEIRD to match your marker uniforms to individual units.

Sunjester has recently also made some discarded shields for 28mm Lion Rampant. 

¹This is humour, and not an actual statement of position.

[fsn]

Sir! I think I got it wrong. I'm reporting that I went for a walk and briskly prepped Matron.

I do like the idea of "stragglers" individually mounted to show unit status in pre-gunpowder age. Possibly into the clip, clip, pop, pop age. My brmm brmm bang bang units are done on a 1:1 (i.e. 1 figure = 1 soldier) so that would look a little odd, but smoke markers serve perfectly well here.

 

[getagrip]

Love that chariot unit Ith; really effective.

[Ithoriel]

I'm working on a set of rules, for my own amusement, which I call "King of Kish." "King of Kish" was the title taken by Sumerian and Akkadian rulers who had control of enough of Mesopotamia to be top dog!

Armies are distinguished by the colour of the left hand die. The value shown on the die is the base number of dice thrown in combat, as units lose cohesion/ effectiveness that die ticks down until it reaches zero, at which point the unit routs. Commanders can allocate command points to rally routers or boost flagging cohesion.

Only the colour matters on the right hand die. Green is Attack, red is Defend, yellow is Manouevre, and so on. Orders remain the same until changed by a commander. A group of units all of which are in base contact with at least one other in the group can be ordered together. Disrupted battle-lines become increasingly unmanageable!

Army units are on 60mm square bases.

[Ken]

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How are the 5mm dice frames to deal with? They seem like they might be abit fiddly.

[Orcs]

They also do dead ACW which we have painted up for WSS.

Also it is NOT WEIRD to match your marker uniforms to individual units.

I thought WSS figures especially British were supposed to be left unpainted.   

Yes IT IS WIERD, your outvoted 2 votes to one  by Sunjester and I 

[Ithoriel]

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Army units are on 60mm square bases.


How are the 5mm dice frames to deal with? They seem like they might be abit fiddly.

So far, it's just been me and one other trying out the games so not a very representative sample! However, we've not found it to be a problem. To be fair, most of the units at the moment are a 60mm base with two 5mm dice frames and things like Skirmisher or Donkey Cart scrawled on them

It is fair to say the rules are evolving faster than the painted armies!

[Last Hussar]

and briskly prepped Matron

No wonder why you don't want to go outside - when I said get a nurse from 'Carry on' I meant Hattie Jacques, not Barbara Windsor.

Something I trialled (and will be putting into full scale when I return to painting ACW) is a base for orders in They Couldn't hit an Elephant.  The 'Attack'order is a triangle with charging figures, 'Engage' is a rectangle with 3 points (like a row of primary school houses) with firing men on, etc.  Along the bottom is the Order name- I just flock the 'base' bit.  The bases aren't the same size/shape to be confused with the actual bases, and the whole thing is kept near the relavent general.

For morale states I have a dead man on a penny for "Fightin' " and Stretcher bearers on a 2p for defeated.

Ignore 'Just another Oik" - his ideal army is Cybermen.  And they still wouldn't get based.

[Leman]

I like those ideas. In BBB I am using a base of casualties for disruption, explosion for silenced gun, ammo boxes for out of ammo and base of routers to show spent.

[DanJ]

I tend to use single figures on small bases which are different from the main unit basing convention to repressent various things, especially one off states.

Squires on foot with a flag the same as a unit's banner/main colour combo to record use of charge bonus.

SYW single musketeer to kep track of first volley, will also work for naps.

Dead/wounded to record casualties.

[Hertsblue]

The problem with markers that stand behind units is that in big games they can easily be left behind, and there then follows a session of "was that with that, or was it with them?". Markers that sit on the bases are more secure but if they are dice they are limited in their potential meanings. The third option is to have a small area on the base that can be written on (preferably with something that can eventually be erased) which is a flexible and secure system. The "label" doesn't have to be white, mine are either green or dark blue, and they travel around with the units during the battle. The next step in the system (for 6mm Napoleonics actually) will be magnetic movement trays that incorporate a writing area at the rear for unit identity/particulars but which allow the units to change formation during the course of the game.   

[getagrip]

The problem with markers that stand behind units is that in big games they can easily be left behind, and there then follows a session of "was that with that, or was it with them?". Markers that sit on the bases are more secure but if they are dice they are limited in their potential meanings. The third option is to have a small area on the base that can be written on (preferably with something that can eventually be erased) which is a flexible and secure system. The "label" doesn't have to be white, mine are either green or dark blue, and they travel around with the units during the battle. The next step in the system (for 6mm Napoleonics actually) will be magnetic movement trays that incorporate a writing area at the rear for unit identity/particulars but which allow the units to change formation during the course of the game.   

Makes perfect sense to me