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Started by getagrip, 04 March 2015, 08:04:31 PM

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steve_holmes_11

QuoteWhy is Santa in Red ? Would have thought Val913 Yellow Ochre more appropriate for cured Reindeer Skin?  :o

Still time to repaint and educate kids in the values of a sustainable use of renewable, natural resources.
Modern Answer: Coca Cola branding.

Antiquarian Answer: He's the Bishop of Myra: Quite an angry bishop by all accounts.



howayman

I thought the coca cola rebranding story was just an urban myth .

Ithoriel

From https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/21/coca-cola-didnt-invent-santa-the-10-biggest-christmas-myths-debunked

"1 Coca-Cola designed the modern Santa Claus as part of an advertising campaign

This is one you always hear at dinner parties. It makes the speaker sound rather clever and cynical. Except it's tosh. Coca-Cola did start using Santa in advertising in 1933. But Santa had been portrayed almost exclusively in red from the early 19th century and most of his modern image was put together by cartoonist Thomas Nast in the 1870s. Even if you were to confine your search to Santa in American soft drinks adverts, you would find a thoroughly modern Santa Claus in the posters for White Rock that came out in 1923."
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Gwydion

Coca Cola did appropriate the idea of Santa Claus (dressed in red) in 1931 (or 33?), but...

yes, a Father Christmas type figure had been around for years in the US in different coloured robes.
Louis Prang (should have been a fighter pilot) had a set of Christmas cards with Santa in a red costume in 1875, predating Coca Cola's appropriation by 56 years (and he probably wasn't the first person to have a 'red' Santa).

(Nast's Santa was in a brown bristly fur job)

In Europe he'd been around under various names for centuries in different costumes.

FierceKitty

A reminder that he's in white in some countries.
I have not the pleasure of understanding you. Of what are you talking?

DecemDave

And in Moscow , he can be in blue.
And to prove it here is a pic from when I was there on business one Christmas.  I took the pic so you will need to check the glass for reflections to see me.  :D

Leman

Another theory I have come across is the accessibility of those red and white mushrooms up in Lapland. You'll believe a reindeer can fly!
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Last Hussar

Just out of interest...

Who has kids of 8, 6 and 3 years old?
I have neither the time or the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

Leon

Quote from: Last Hussar on 27 July 2022, 11:20:45 PMWho has kids of 8, 6 and 3 years old?

 :-\

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Last Hussar

I was wondering who was failing to out himself on twatter, but seems to be keeping quiet!
I have neither the time or the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

Leon

Quote from: Last Hussar on 28 July 2022, 09:18:05 PMI was wondering who was failing to out himself on twatter, but seems to be keeping quiet!

I'm not sure what you mean, that the person on Twitter is also on the Forum here?  I'm not sure if he's got a Forum account, I'd need to check on that.
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Raider4

QuoteI'm not sure what you mean, that the person on Twitter is also on the Forum here?  I'm not sure if he's got a Forum account, I'd need to check on that.
Years of living with the GDPR regulations, and before that the Data Protection Act, means this post is raising all sort of red flags with me.

Remember - you can only use the data you have for the reason you collected it, and data subjects have the right to privacy.
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Leon

Quote from: Raider4 on 29 July 2022, 08:36:35 AMYears of living with the GDPR regulations, and before that the Data Protection Act, means this post is raising all sort of red flags with me.

I'm not sure why the red flags, I'm not about to start posting people's details or giving out any info?  I was more curious what Hussar's post was about as it seemed to alude to a chap from Twitter who came to visit the shop yesterday.  If he doesn't have a Forum account then he's not likely to see the query.
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Raider4

QuoteI'm not sure why the red flags, I'm not about to start posting people's details or giving out any info?  I was more curious what Hussar's post was about as it seemed to alude to a chap from Twitter who came to visit the shop yesterday.  If he doesn't have a Forum account then he's not likely to see the query.
Because I'm super, super sensitive about this, and because of your comment "I'm not sure if he's got a Forum account, I'd need to check on that."

I'm absolutely sure you'll do nothing wrong. Like I said, these sort of things get my spidey-sense tingling.

And I have seen people get in very big trouble by doing something they thought was 'helpful' when dealing with personal data.

Mind you, you can hardly fire yourself ;).
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Leon

Quote from: Raider4 on 29 July 2022, 03:45:51 PMI'm absolutely sure you'll do nothing wrong. Like I said, these sort of things get my spidey-sense tingling.

And I have seen people get in very big trouble by doing something they thought was 'helpful' when dealing with personal data.

No worries, I'm always very aware of people's data as we regularly get queries that would fall foul of GDPR.  It's always innocent stuff like 'I think my husband ordered x, y and z so I don't want to order the same thing for his birthday.' or 'My friend has placed a combined order and some of it was for me.' but we're not allowed to confirm/deny things like that.  I always have to get them to ask those questions to the person directly and if needed, get the original person to contact us.
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