Pendraken acquires Blitzkrieg Commander family of rulesets!

[getagrip]

In't dat Black Powder.

IanS

Don't know, is it?  If it is, I'm interested

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Hail Ceaser, Pike and Shotte, and Black Powder are all the evolution of the Warmaster system, using a single command roll, and up to 3 moves as the result. For BP you do need to be careful to pick the right "specials", and playing all 3 on a regular basis is confusing because they are very slightly different.

IanS

[jchaos79]

same author... evollution doesn't mean it is improved (in my opinion)

[getagrip]

Hail Ceaser, Pike and Shotte, and Black Powder are all the evolution of the Warmaster system, using a single command roll, and up to 3 moves as the result. For BP you do need to be careful to pick the right "specials", and playing all 3 on a regular basis is confusing because they are very slightly different.

IanS

Specials?  Could you explain please please?

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Er - buy the rules.

Units get special rules - such as "First Fire" in BP, giving them an extra die the first time the shoot, or Skirmish, Parthian Shot etc...

IanS

[getagrip]

Er - buy the rules.

Units get special rules - such as "First Fire" in BP, giving them an extra die the first time the shoot, or Skirmish, Parthian Shot etc...

IanS

Cheers 

Looking at rules for ACW at the mo so anything which plays like Warmaster is a bonus.

[Sandinista]

Hail Caesar, Pike and Shotte, and Black Powder are in my opinion all infinitely better than Warmaster with Pike & Shotte my personal favourite.

Cheers
Ian

[getagrip]

Hail Caesar, Pike and Shotte, and Black Powder are in my opinion all infinitely better than Warmaster with Pike & Shotte my personal favourite.

Cheers
Ian

Maybe, but if I can find an ACW set which plays in a similar way it won't be too difficult for me to learn.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Black powder works really well for ACW

[getagrip]

Black powder works really well for ACW

And that's similar to Warmaster?

[Womble67]

Black powder works really well for ACW

I also agree, we all use black powder at the Grimsby Wargames Society  http://www.grimsbywargamessociety.com/ for ACW

Take care

Andy

[getagrip]

Do they use the Warmaster mechanics?

[jchaos79]

Do they use the Warmaster mechanics?

They use similar mechanics to warmaster because is made by Rick priestly. When he was out of GW he had to change his game (warmaster mechanics)  to make something similar (what he wants) but rather different to not be a copy of warmaster and have problems with GW.

It is very spread the idea of the "evolution" of warmaster but infact the changes were a must to not be the same product rather than improves of the systems to reapair mechanics. Something that The commander serires ignore taking the same mechanics.

Hail Caesar and other warlord games have command mechanics but only one dice roll per brigade and turn this gives you the chance of make 1 movement or if you are lucky with the roll 3 moves (so you can attack by side)... the spirit is the same the strategy is  more random and in my opinion dilute. Warning I am not saying that Hail Caesar, Black Powder, Pike and Shot are not good Games at all... I am just saying that are not warmaster 2.0 superior systems (in my opinion), as I read somewhere in the net.

Units are more flexibles compose of 1, 2 3, or 4 stands.

In hail caesar the units has two profiles, one for the first round of combat and other for the following rounds of combat (sustained combat)... among other changes.

But yes the philosphy is the same as warmaster (same author).

They are presented as being 28mm because warlord sells 28mm. The core of the game is indeed though for little scales (warmaster philosophy again), making a battle of hail ceaser and other warlord games only possible for clubs or group of people with lots of figures and huge tables.

[getagrip]

They use similar mechanics to warmaster because is made by Rick priestly. When he was out of GW he had to change his game (warmaster mechanics)  to make something similar (what he wants) but rather different to not be a copy of warmaster and have problems with GW.

It is very spread the idea of the "evolution" of warmaster but infact the changes were a must to not be the same product rather than improves of the systems to reapair mechanics. Something that The commander serires ignore taking the same mechanics.

Hail Caesar and other warlord games have command mechanics but only one dice roll per brigade and turn this gives you the chance of make 1 movement or if you are lucky with the roll 3 moves (so you can attack by side)... the spirit is the same the strategy is  more random and in my opinion dilute. Warning I am not saying that Hail Caesar, Black Powder, Pike and Shot are not good Games at all... I am just saying that are not warmaster 2.0 superior systems (in my opinion), as I read somewhere in the net.

Units are more flexibles compose of 1, 2 3, or 4 stands.

In hail caesar the units has two profiles, one for the first round of combat and other for the following rounds of combat (sustained combat)... among other changes.

But yes the philosphy is the same as warmaster (same author).

They are presented as being 28mm because warlord sells 28mm. The core of the game is indeed though for little scales (warmaster philosophy again), making a battle of hail ceaser and other warlord games only possible for clubs or group of people with lots of figures and huge tables.

Sold!

Thanks Chaos 

[getagrip]

Anyone know where I can get a copy?