C12 Armour

Started by fsn, 24 January 2015, 03:45:50 PM

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

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Leman

Does that taste of Thousand Islands Dressing?
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Fenton

Painted mail might be referring to the bluing of the mail after manufacturer
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Quote from: Leman on 24 January 2015, 07:51:48 PM
Does that taste of Thousand Islands Dressing?

No, a hundred year-old undressing!  :-&
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fsn

To which the obvious question is ... how do you know what a hundred year old undressing tastes like?
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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fsn

Quote from: Fenton on 24 January 2015, 07:52:35 PM
Painted mail might be referring to the bluing of the mail after manufacturer

There is bluing, and I suppose unpolished it may be blackened. There is  also russeting, but I think that is a later discovery.
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FierceKitty

A reenactment group doing a long march in Roman gear a few decades ago found that mail (yes, mail) requires less upkeep and polishing than other armour as long as it's being worn; the rings chafe the rust off each other in movement.
This implies the corrolary that mail probably wore out faster than one might have wished.
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sunjester

Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 January 2015, 12:37:30 AM
A reenactment group doing a long march in Roman gear a few decades ago found that mail (yes, mail) requires less upkeep and polishing than other armour as long as it's being worn; the rings chafe the rust off each other in movement.
This implies the corrolary that mail probably wore out faster than one might have wished.
It's also easy to clean, chuck in a sack/barrel with some sand and shake around a bit.  Easier than polishing pieces of plate in my experience.

fsn

I have written to Bretealda asking them to cite sources.

I think my problem is that I got a Kindle edition. Obviously a printed book is infallible, but the Kindle skirts the line between the sooth page and the lying internet.

I quite fancied some troops in green mail.  :(
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

FierceKitty

For Sir Gawain to try to cuckold?
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fsn

Why not.

I may experiment with coloured mails, just 'cos I can.  :P

In "Wargames Tactics" by Charles Grant there is a chapter entitled "Fracas at Bray" which is a medieval skirmish. I think the Stephen-Matilda Wars lend themselves to this format. I'd like to have some distinctively coloured lances to give me flexibility (today red and blue take on black and white - tomorrow red will defend a church against the other three.) Just need 10-15 figures per lance, perhaps a few peasants ... ooh and some Welsh, 'cos they're funny, and let chaos ensue!

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Techno

Couldn't you try an appropriate coloured ink wash over 'normal' chainmail, Nobby ?
Cheers - Phil

fsn

That was my thought. Thought I'd go for the "silver" mail rather than my usual "gunmetal" mail and then slop some limey-green or reddy-brown over the top.


I shall let you know how I get on. Think I've got some Normans left over. 
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Techno

The only other method I tried years ago.....Which, to me. worked really well was painting a coloured Tamiya varnish over drybrushed armour/chainmail.
There was a significant drawback to using this method, in that the Tamiya varnish would 'lift/dissolve' acrylic paint.
This meant using a metallic enamel for the drybrushing.
Not a problem, way back then, as I still had pots (of pots) of metallic enamels.
Like I say.....I thought it worked really nicely....I'm not sure if Tamiya still produce those varnishes, now though. :-\

Cheers - Phil

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

I remember doing CHAINMAIL (correct term) with a suede brush and then varnishing. Buffed up the rings nicely. I also have never heard of painted mail, the ID was via the surcoat shield and banners.

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