ITLSU 1917 Ottoman Cavalry basing

[paulr]

Thanks to those who voted 

Due to overwhelming demand the Ottoman cavalry have been based as...
- two galloping squadrons
- two standing squadrons
- one half and half squadron

[WeeWars]

The problem is in the original design. They were clearly designed to be mixed. After all, there's only one officer and he's on the 'galloping' horse. So are the the 'standing' horsemen meant to form a unit without an officer?

So mine are forming units as intended by the Pendraken designer. Even if the 'galloping' guys appear to be playing catch up or simply leaping ahead of the 'standing' guys.

Same goes for the Turkish infantry. Whose vote goes to having half an army's infantry in units of only one kneeling pose? With the officer standing up, looking over the top of them, of course. I tried to resolve that one and Dave and Leon have had my kneeling officer sculpt for many, many years now.

The WW1 Turks have a great variety of figures to fight but the bulk of their own forces have to be made up of 2 cavalry and 2 infantry poses that do not mix happily. The real solution is a major redesign. Doesn't have to be a vast range just a few figures that actually do the job properly.

Not to mention the one solitary, high-kicking, single member of the Arab Revolt.

[FierceKitty]

I feel that the prevalent anti-Cambrian prejudice on this forum is inadequate to requirements. Tax leeks and sheep off the planet, and close a few pits, gentlemen.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

What's that's To's do's wiv's di's topik's FK's

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

I feel that the prevalent anti-Cambrian prejudice on this forum is inadequate to requirements. Tax leeks and sheep off the planet, and close a few pits, gentlemen.

Good grief - we agree on something.

ianS

[paulr]

The problem is in the original design. They were clearly designed to be mixed. After all, there's only one officer and he's on the 'galloping' horse. So are the the 'standing' horsemen meant to form a unit without an officer?

Agreed, with 6 figures per squadron the lack of officer isn't too bad

Not to mention the one solitary, high-kicking, single member of the Arab Revolt.

I'm planning on mixing horse and foot on the same base rather than having two of those horses together

[WeeWars]

Agreed, with 6 figures per squadron the lack of officer isn't too bad

I'm planning on mixing horse and foot on the same base rather than having two of those horses together

Like this?:

www.michaelscott.name/ww1/ww1blog/ww1blogpost0022.htm

[paulr]

Agreed, with 6 figures per squadron the lack of officer isn't too bad

I'm planning on mixing horse and foot on the same base rather than having two of those horses together

Like this?:

www.michaelscott.name/ww1/ww1blog/ww1blogpost0022.htm

I did say, in another thread, that your work was inspirational

Mine will be on 30mm square bases, same base I use for mounted or dismounted cavalry

[WeeWars]

I did say, in another thread, that your work was inspirational

Mine will be on 30mm square bases, same base I use for mounted or dismounted cavalry

Do you not like the ITLSU idea of basing Arabs on round bases?

[paulr]

Do you not like the ITLSU idea of basing Arabs on round bases?

I cut my own bases from 2mm styrene sheet, cheaper and requires less pre-planning  Cutting circles is beyond me

A question on Arabs, while we are talking about them...

From ITLSU, "Arab tribes are a form of mob. Any number of bases may be gathered together as one unit. Equally, big Arab 'mobs' can be split with no penalty (although if the big mob had suppression points the satellite mob will also have the same number of points)."

How do you normally gather your Arabs into 'mobs' for firing. Having small 'mobs' at short range would give you lots of extra dice 

[Leman]

Obviously FK"s never experienced the "joy" in a Welsh mining town when the pit closes. I wonder if, had there been such a thing as a forum in the 30s , there would have been a merry quip about a few more synagogues being smashed up being a good thing.

[FierceKitty]

I was there in Thatchler's Britain, and I've seen worse working in South African squatter camps. I know the score. And as long as they aren't important works of architecture, I'm all for wrecking places of worship, particularly those that routinely mutilate children.

[Leman]

My point is how come having a go at the Welsh and Scots appears to be fair game, whereas you would never contemplate the same sort of remarks about West Indians and Pakistanis, who are just as proud of their cultural heritage.

[FierceKitty]

Wouldn't I just? Ask my Pakistani car-pool partner about my 9/11 jokes.

[WeeWars]

I cut my own bases from 2mm styrene sheet, cheaper and requires less pre-planning  Cutting circles is beyond me

You want one of these:



or some other circle cutter:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=circular+cutter&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1075&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Ch-oVMi-Ocn0UsOzg9gO&ved=0CFEQsAQ#imgdii=_

It's what I use to cut the steel sheet I stick to the underside of my round MDF bases.

[WeeWars]

A question on Arabs, while we are talking about them...

From ITLSU, "Arab tribes are a form of mob. Any number of bases may be gathered together as one unit. Equally, big Arab 'mobs' can be split with no penalty (although if the big mob had suppression points the satellite mob will also have the same number of points)."

How do you normally gather your Arabs into 'mobs' for firing. Having small 'mobs' at short range would give you lots of extra dice 

The tribesmen for Dilbar (http://www.michaelscott.name/ww1/ww1blog/ww1blogpost009.htm) were split into units of 6 bases, if I recall correctly (but my head is full of Napoleonic rules writing at the moment  ).

'Arabs' in the rules are designed only to be part of an army so I was very impressed that the rules as they stood could accommodate a whole army of tribesmen. I don't think you have to worry about Arab troops becoming too powerful, though, they need all the help they can get. In fact, the one thing I wanted to add to the rules was a time factor (more difficult with card driven turns) that allowed night to fall and the tribesmen to regroup wherever they wanted. There are so many desert accounts of Imperial troops waking up and wondering where the enemy had disappeared to.

[paulr]

Thanks Michael, marvellously helpful as always