Painting Comp Feedback

[kev1964]

Some very good points chap's and a difficult one to manage. I am as most of you know, a pro painter, unfortunately i dont game so am unable to comment on a lot of posts so can only really contribute to the visual side of the forum. I can see and understand all points made.  I got my inspiration and uniform knowledge from  Dazza's great works on here and hopefully have given the same to other people in return, not just to show off. I'd like to think i have helped a few people on the way and am always here to help, i dont know if their are more pro painters on here but i would be happy to sit out the competitions in the future and just stick to posting in the threads. The competition for me,(as it should be), is just great fun, not just going in to win but to see all the great work and showcase what is possible in 10mm.


kev

[OldenBUA]

Some other ideas that spring to mind while reading this. It has been my impression (but I could be wrong) that a number of those who entered the competition, but don't participate on the forum much come from countries where English is not the primary language. My thinking is that this fact alone could be reason enough. If you take a step back, you will find that this forum is not the easiest to participate in for any non-UK residents. Given all the in-jokes, slang, discussion of local events and topics and what-not, and I'm certain many will feel a little more than bewildered if coming here from abroad. But to me, it is the Pendraken painting competition, not the Pendraken Forum painting competition. So participation in the forum should never be mandatory in my opinion.
A second point, maybe all those who aren't very active on the Forum spend their time honing their painting skills instead? I for one am quite sure that all the time spent here (34 days and counting) detracts from the time I spend at the painting desk. So, maybe some people would like to spend their free time painting and/or gaming, rather than spend time on the forum?

One idea could be to move the competition away from the forum, by hosting all entries on the Pendraken website. There could still be discussion on the forum ofcourse. (Maybe on the main site as well?) Moving to the main site would also make a great showcase for Pendraken Miniatures.

Alex

[sebigboss79]

I am with the notion to make entering the competition depending on active membership BUT where would one draw the line? Who would keep note of members activity in the previous year?

There will always be people only up for grabs and others just for the fun of it. I would leave it to the judges to give points not only according to skill but also according to "soft factors". I am confident our judges are wise enough to
make a good balance between the factors and come to an agreement.

Just my thoughts.

[FierceKitty]

Who has time to keep a record of my member's activity? And what if one of their husbands found out?

[sebigboss79]

Who has time to keep a record of my member's activity? And what if one of their husbands found out?

Exactly as I say: Such venture is futile.

[sakura]

i haveny posted much as you can see
i entered with no chance of winning i
i entered for fun and to show what i do
its a competition so any member should be able to enter
some of the posts here are ridiculous so would they count?
top totty is oldmen porn really so does that count?
come on guys dont turn into tmp
btwi would like publicly to thank dave and leon for arranging a satisfactory ending to my issue with the mongols
gentlemen both and typical of the better elements here
i buy a reasonable amount i think

[fred.]

I don't think any link to posting (or not) should matter for the painting comp.

While the prizes are very nice, I'm not sure that they are that valuable that someone is going to decide to spend a lot of time on a painting comp entry, if they don't already have an interest in 10mm and Pendraken.

The skill level has definitely risen - and this year I did hesitate before posting my stuff. And it has to be said didn't get round to doing anything particularly for the comp, just displaying stuff I had worked on during the last year.

But I am musing about doing a diorama for next year (if someone could remind me around Nov it would be good) - Kev's artillery base looks particularly great. I have also been using bigger bases this year for my gaming units and like the way that you can make a much more interesting unit, than with the 40x20 warmaster base, which is crammed with troops.

[fred.]

i entered for fun and to show what i do
its a competition so any member should be able to enter
some of the posts here are ridiculous so would they count?
top totty is oldmen porn really so does that count?
come on guys dont turn into tmp

That too.

Although I may substitute the word many for some on line 3

[fsn]

Well said Sakura. (Except the bit about "oldmen porn". That's just rude.) I have no problem with "cadets" entering the painting comps. As long as it benefits the Dark Lord's purposes and enterprises we (the hair in the Pendraken plughole) can surely applaud the efforts of everyone who enters?

[hetairoi]

I didn´t organize the competition and it´s only my second year participating, but I think that it is a PAINTING competition, not a FORUM competition. With the painting competition we can see what a painter (proffesional or not) could do with these lovely miniatures. I would lie if I said I don´t want to win, but it´s also true that I have not painted anything specially for the competition. All my entries are related with my actual 10mm projects: Magnesia & Lord of the Rings. As I said, the best part of the competition is the push I get for advance in my projects.

In the other way, a forum competition would also be great, something like The Legend of Four Painters or so... a competition were we could see how people advance on thier projects.

I agree with some points already said:
- Winners at least should write a post explaining their entri or answering people´s questions.
- There is no sense on a "two pics" limit if we could make a collage... (shame on me!). However, I like to see various angles of a figure
- Love the diorama idea!

About  the participation on the forum, I´m afraid I´m not a "forum-man"... sadly I don´t have enought time. Also, as OldenBUA said, english is not my first language. Seriously guys, I cant´understand you half of the times! 

[FierceKitty]

English is my first language and I can't puzzle out a lot of what's posted!

[Scolty]

Craig,

I understand your feelings - I have been a LTL (long time lurker) on the forum but have contributed nothing over the past year or so. This has been due to several factors (won't bore everyone with them.) However, I have taken the opportunity of the competition to give a boost to my 'tardy' painting of 2 Pendraken ACW armies (RF&F) and also to make good with a New Year resolution to begin to post on the forum. I imagine a few others will do the same. I thoroughly enjoy reading posts on the different topics and the photo section (especially ACW) always provides inspiration. My main concern is what to paint after the ACW! I have 2 small AWI armies awaiting but I also like the look of the Mongol and Augsberg ranges and I also have a hankering for the 'new' Napoleonics!
Thanks to Will who gave advice on getting my pics transferred and I WILL post more of them as I progress through the lead pile.

Eric
(AKA 'Scolty')

[paulr]

 

Some very good points chap's and a difficult one to manage. I am as most of you know, a pro painter, unfortunately i dont game so am unable to comment on a lot of posts so can only really contribute to the visual side of the forum. I can see and understand all points made.  I got my inspiration and uniform knowledge from  Dazza's great works on here and hopefully have given the same to other people in return, not just to show off. I'd like to think i have helped a few people on the way and am always here to help, i dont know if their are more pro painters on here but i would be happy to sit out the competitions in the future and just stick to posting in the threads. The competition for me,(as it should be), is just great fun, not just going in to win but to see all the great work and showcase what is possible in 10mm.


kev

You and many others have certainly helped and inspired me
I would dearly miss your entries if they weren't there   even though it would improve my slim chances   

The very success of the competition in raising standards is causing challenges

[quasar42]

I would find it a great pity if participation in the painting competition would be limited in any other way than the basic conditions that apply today. The contributions are extremely inspiring. The more there are the greater the fun. I also fail to see the connection between forum posting frequency and participation in the competition. The only question one could ask is whether "professionals" should be separated from the "amateurs". But that is unrelated to somebody's posting frequency on the forums and it is not something that bothers me. If some of the 28mm pros could be drawn to the one real scale that could only be a good thing. I missed the deadline this year, but hope to participate next year again.

[mollinary]

I love ogling the entries in the competition, and find them inspiring.  Should "professionals" be able to compete?  From my point of view the answer would be a resounding yes, their work is amazing, and shows off Pendraken figures for the works of art they are. Should they be eligible for the prizes?  I think that is a question only those who donate the prizes should be able to decide, but I am not sure that the prizes are the motivation for people entering.  I hope we can keep a sense of proportion here.  I also hope we do not take ourselves so seriously that we encumber the competition with more rules and restrictions than the Oscars or the Olympics.  Is the Painting Competition broke?  I don't think so.  So let's not fix it!

Cheers all,

Mollinary