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« Reply #2835 on: 27 November 2018, 12:48:20 AM »

Hitler, my part in his downfall, perhaps?
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« Reply #2836 on: 27 November 2018, 04:57:39 AM »

Having finished Hell Divers IV, and what a brilliant ride it was too - can't wait for the final volume coming next spring!!! However, a new book arrived today "St Ruth's Fatal Gamble" about the battle of Aughrim, so am starting that and still holding Watership Down at hand. Although I find some disappointing uniform data in this book, and understand that he just carried forward previous known and so often repeated errors about the Danish troops, I am hoping his account of the battle is more accurate. But a big fan of the LOA so can't be all bad!!!

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« Reply #2837 on: 27 November 2018, 09:49:05 AM »

The Rzhev Slaughterhouse: The Red Army's Forgotten 15-month Campaign against Army Group Center, 1942-1943 by Svetlana Gerasimova

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« Reply #2838 on: 28 November 2018, 07:55:32 PM »

Finished reading the edited volume "Eleftherios Venizelos: The Trials of Statesmanship" edited by Paschalis M.Kitromilides and published by Edinburgh University Press.

While it does not make up for the lack of a modern and honest holisitc political biography of Venizelos in English it is the best you can get in english. Chapters cover multiple aspects of his life and political career, including early life, domestic politics, foreign policy, church-state relations, education policy, civil military relations, constitutional theory, and finally his work on translating Thucydides into modern Greek.

All in all gives a lot of information but lacks a central narrative, and misses a lot of material available in Greek.

Still if you need a modern one volume source on Venizelos, this is ok.
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« Reply #2839 on: 28 November 2018, 09:25:17 PM »

Oliver Wiswell by Kenneth Roberts. A historical novel set during the American Revolution, looking at things from the Tory/Loyalist side. Very interesting read so far.
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« Reply #2840 on: 29 November 2018, 10:56:45 AM »

Wainwright’s Lake District Tour, Whitsuntide 1931 - the great man’s second only visit to the Lakes. Lots of colour photos and Wainwright’s original penned ink maps and drawings. Very pleasant break from military history.
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« Reply #2841 on: 30 November 2018, 04:58:54 AM »

Finished "The Last Throw Of The Dice: Bourbaki and Werder In Eastern France 1870-71" by Quintin Barry.

I like his books on the FPW.  Good detail and color.  I didn't like the maps in this volume; too many places named that are not on the maps.  Plus, not enough of the fights are illustrated for me.

But, good narrative and well researched.
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« Reply #2842 on: 30 November 2018, 07:27:55 AM »

I didn't like the maps in this volume; too many places named that are not on the maps.

That's something that always bugs me too. Consequently I was determined not to make the same mistake in my own book, "Napoleon's 1796 Italian campaign".
https://www.amazon.com/Napoleons-1796-Italian-Campaign-Clausewitz/dp/070062676X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1537000807&sr=1-2&keywords=murray+pringle
However, when Nick and I came to do the maps - of which there are plenty - we just found it impossible to fit in every little village and hamlet that was mentioned in the text. I therefore now have more sympathy for other authors who've found the same.

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« Reply #2843 on: 30 November 2018, 08:46:16 AM »

I'm reading Stephen Fry's "Mythos" retelling the tales of Greek Gods and Titans.

Being Stephen Fry, it's a suavely written tome; erudite but accessible. As I read, I can hear him narrate.




I have a question for my fellow historical gamers. If I game Ancient Greek myths - with harpies, and centaurs and a cyclops ... all used in their proper mythical context ... is it Fantasy gaming?
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« Reply #2844 on: 30 November 2018, 09:59:05 AM »

Stephen Fry for Emperor (and Richard Dawkins for Pope)!

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« Reply #2845 on: 30 November 2018, 10:00:55 AM »



I have a question for my fellow historical gamers. If I game Ancient Greek myths - with harpies, and centaurs and a cyclops ... all used in their proper mythical context ... is it Fantasy gaming?

Certainly. What's annoying in LAF, in fact, is their way of treating such things as ancients.
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« Reply #2846 on: 30 November 2018, 11:15:36 AM »

I have a question for my fellow historical gamers. If I game Ancient Greek myths - with harpies, and centaurs and a cyclops ... all used in their proper mythical context ... is it Fantasy gaming?

Damn good question, Nobby.

I'd agree with Kitty....In that yes...it is fantasy gaming....Though in some respects I'd almost be tempted to call it 'Mythical gaming'.

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« Reply #2847 on: 30 November 2018, 11:36:26 AM »

I have a question for my fellow historical gamers. If I game Ancient Greek myths - with harpies, and centaurs and a cyclops ... all used in their proper mythical context ... is it Fantasy gaming?

In our club there is something of a divide between the 'historical' end of the hall and the tournament gamers. Although I certainly don't wish to sneer at anyone's hobby, occasionally the historicals have been known to make sceptical remarks about tournament games that seem to portray little-known conflicts such as Vikings vs Aztecs or the Afrika Korps civil war, or querying the inclusion of T-34/57s (total production run ~10?) in a standard tournament army list. After one snide comment too many, one of the tournament gamers retaliated with "it's all fantasy anyway".

So perhaps a question for my fellow gamers of whatever ilk: does it all become Fantasy gaming, even my most rigorously researched scenario to recreate the Second Battle of Komarom, as soon as the first dice are rolled and the action diverges from history?

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« Reply #2848 on: 30 November 2018, 11:47:41 AM »

I occasionally throw Humbaba into my Sumerian games - I still consider them historical.

But then I'd contend that all of our games that allow for a non-historical outcome are fantasy to a greater or lesser degree.
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« Reply #2849 on: 30 November 2018, 12:07:24 PM »

All games are models. All models are simplification of reality. Thus I would say there is variation in what our games capture from reality. Fantasy games simply reduce that to the bare minimum.
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