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« Reply #270 on: 18 March 2015, 02:10:43 PM »

No idea, Matt....It's all gone to Leon.
You'll have to ask 'The Man'. Wink
Cheers - Phil
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« Reply #271 on: 18 March 2015, 07:39:55 PM »

Isn't that always going to be just a slaughter rather than a battle? How do you beat massed longbowmen with massed pikemen?
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« Reply #272 on: 18 March 2015, 07:41:20 PM »

Panzer division?   Cheesy
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« Reply #273 on: 18 March 2015, 07:46:56 PM »

Isn't that always going to be just a slaughter rather than a battle? How do you beat massed longbowmen with massed pikemen?

Historically? March forward and run them over. If you can do it when it's a bit damp that makes it even easier.
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« Reply #274 on: 05 April 2015, 03:10:16 PM »

Can't think of any battles i've read of where that worked - except for, i think, one out of dozens in the Hundred Years War where the French and Scots had the English hugely outnumbered.
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« Reply #275 on: 05 April 2015, 03:20:18 PM »

Can't think of any battles i've read of where that worked - except for, i think, one out of dozens in the Hundred Years War where the French and Scots had the English hugely outnumbered.

The Battle of Flodden, 9th September 1513

Scots pike phalanxes, well armoured and fighting in Swiss style overran the English archery/bill formations.
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« Reply #276 on: 05 April 2015, 04:26:22 PM »

Since when? The English bill slaughtered them.
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« Reply #277 on: 05 April 2015, 04:29:52 PM »

Flodden is often taken as a Scots loss.
I think that is wrong.
In fact it was a massive loss!
James blowing himself up with his own artillery helps...
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« Reply #278 on: 05 April 2015, 04:55:11 PM »

James blowing himself up with his own artillery helps...

Never let Scots, Phil or women loose on hi-tech equipment.

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« Reply #279 on: 05 April 2015, 05:16:29 PM »

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« Reply #280 on: 06 April 2015, 03:31:05 AM »

I'm forgetting how late Flodden was of course. By that time the nobles and some of the richer men at arms would have had high quality steel plate good enough to give some serious protection against longbow fire. I'd guess that if it was anything like some of the late Hundred Years War period battles though, not all plate armour would be high enough quality to stop most longbow arrows, and not all the Scots would have had plate armour.
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« Reply #281 on: 06 April 2015, 03:40:06 AM »

The points are often made that producing men able to use a longbow needs a level of intensive commitment from society, and that there was a mounting shortage of suitable wood as time went on; bows wore out faster than England could grow yews. By Tudor times, bow wood was being imported from the Baltic.
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« Reply #282 on: 06 April 2015, 04:16:12 PM »

Interesting - didn't know they ever had a shortage of wood for them
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« Reply #283 on: 06 April 2015, 07:34:51 PM »

Flodden is often taken as a Scots loss.
I think that is wrong.
In fact it was a massive loss!
James blowing himself up with his own artillery helps...


Wrong James I think, ML!   Shocked. James 2nd gets blown up by his own artillery in 1460. It is his grandson, innovatively and imaginatively called James 4th, who gets hacked to pieces at Flodden.

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« Reply #284 on: 06 April 2015, 07:41:24 PM »

Dagnabbit, they should have chosen more original names for their kings, like George, or Henry, or Edward!
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