Jim Ando
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« on: 07 January 2012, 03:41:57 PM » |
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Would Blackpowder rules do for the GNW. It`a bit of a strange war, pikes still in use and the swedes with their Ga Pa tactics. I`ve played a couple of games of ACW with them and liked them for their speed but didn`t think they gave much flavor for any particular era which they cover. I don`t own a copy(yet) or the supplement (last arguement of kings) but still quite fancy them.
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ianrs54
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« Reply #1 on: 07 January 2012, 06:00:47 PM » |
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Yes - played a 20mm scenario on Thursday, Sweede vs Russian. The Swedes had 1 less die shooting(2) + 1 die Melee(7).
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Jim Ando
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« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2012, 05:19:32 PM » |
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did the that work.
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ianrs54
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« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2012, 08:25:23 AM » |
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Yes - seemed to work well, but then I won it.
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Jim Ando
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« Reply #4 on: 13 January 2012, 02:22:03 PM » |
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your bound to say that then.
was that a house rule or are stats for swedes and russians in L a o ks.
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ianrs54
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« Reply #5 on: 14 January 2012, 08:31:53 AM » |
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It was a published scenario - one of the professional mags I think. Will McNally organised the game, it's probaly up on his blog. (Sorry no URL)
The Furious charge is a useful rule in the book, changes in shooting and melee dice were scenario specific. As I understand it it was to account for Swedish pikes, still at least 10%? of Swedish Rgts at the time.
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« Reply #6 on: 14 January 2012, 10:02:51 AM » |
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Swedes had 33% pikes but the Furious rule would be because of their very aggressive tactics. The Russians also had pikes but the % varied overtime.
I think the key question is how outnumbered were the Swedes? In the real war they were usually heavily outnumbered by the Russians - 2, 3 or more to 1. the rules would need to cope with that.
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Jim Ando
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« Reply #7 on: 16 January 2012, 03:22:53 PM » |
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It`s a toss up between BP and beneath the lily banners. I used to play the later quite a bit but jesus are they slow I don`t know how you could fight even a small battle in less than 4 hours. We never finished a game. So it looks like it`s going to be blackpowder.
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« Reply #8 on: 16 January 2012, 04:41:54 PM » |
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You could also try other rules? The Ga Pa set is good and we use Polemos GNW rules. I am sure there are others around as well.
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Jim Ando
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« Reply #9 on: 28 January 2012, 04:03:12 PM » |
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Just got blackpowder at last, £19.20 inc p&p from amazon hope thats a bargin.
Borrowed last argument of kings and was impressed by both can`t wait to have a game.
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ianrs54
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« Reply #10 on: 28 January 2012, 04:11:08 PM » |
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One thing I did miss - with BP we found the move sequence a bit uncomforatble, so changed it to I move, You Fire, You move I fire. That way you dont need to mark units which used closing fire.
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« Reply #11 on: 29 January 2012, 11:34:33 AM » |
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Jim
Be careful with LAOK the unit classifications are very broad, too broad I think, and may not give you a good feel for the period. I was not impressed with the apparent research that covered the WSS for example. Beneath the Lily Banners is a better option.
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« Reply #12 on: 20 February 2012, 01:40:33 AM » |
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