10mm trenchlines - advice

Started by Luddite, 18 September 2011, 10:16:36 AM

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Luddite

Does anyone have any advice on how to make 10mm trenchlines (WWI era in style) as 'scatter terrain'?

Kallistra do some but they'r bland, too pricey and i don't like the hex bases.
Pendraken do some i think but there are no pictures for me to assess if they're worth the money.

In any case i need about 12' + communications trenches, and gun emplacement hardpoints, not to mention the barbed wire.


Any advice on materials, techniques, etc. to get this done quickly to a decent tabletop standard would be most welcome.

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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

You can make your own - but it's tediuos. major problem is reconciling the base size with the trench size, they tend to end up being 20 - 30 % larger footprint, and dominating.

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Kiwidave

I've used IronClad Miniatures ones. They're aimed at 15mm, but they work well (IMHO) with 10mm.

A couple of pics here: http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/page/45249136/Orsha%3A%20Nikfest%2C%20December%202010
and here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3772.0

Hope that helps,

KD

Jim Ando

I know a chap who has just started making resin 10mm trenches and he`s on this forum.

I`ve seen his stuff in the flesh and it maybe what your looking for.

Goes by the name of dave fairlamb.

Jim

Leon

Our PS24 sections look like this, but there's not much variation in them.  You'd have to start cutting them up for gun emplacements.



Although as Jim says above, this guy is just getting started, could be worth a look? http://www.daftcasting.co.uk/store/products/
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Shedman

I'm  currently looking at 10mm trenches for my Russo-Japanese War

My troops are based on 2mm thick MDF bases from Tony at ERM

The Pendraken trenches pictured above are in my opinion not very good - the banks are too low, the trench base in quite thick and there is little variety - sorry lads

The IronClad Miniatures ones are very nice, the troops look fine, the pieces fit together quite well and there is a good variety - my only gripe is that they look too neat

Daft Castings - http://www.daftcasting.co.uk - are also very nice, the troops look good in the trenches, they have a hasty thrown-together look to them and the straight section zig zags. The cons are that they don't fit together without some filing and the overall footprint is quite big

Of the three it was a toss up between Ironclad and Daft. Come payday I'm putting an order in with Daft Castings because of the straight section zigzags and they look more 19th Century if you know what I mean





Luddite

cheers for the links chaps but i was really looking for advice on making my own.   ;)
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Leon

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lentulus

Another pitch for Ironclad.  Their main trench lines fit a 30mm deep base (which my BKC infantry bases are) while their weapons positions accommodate a 40mm square base which my AT guns use.   My lads have fairly thick bases - but their heads just peek over the top of the trench with is perfect.  I have a few and will get more.

DanJ

I made a couple of boarss like this a while ago and while they look great they're a lot of work for something that's not very flexible and are out of scale for anything except skirmish games.

For WW1 I now favour a more styalised aproach and use strips of brown felt laid on the green base cloth.  This is cheap, flexible and looks suprisingly good, being able to flow over hils and round obstancles.  To enhance the overall look I have invested quite a lot of time in barber wire which I make in the following way:

Cut strips of 3mm plasticard into 6x2cm strips.

Using a .5mm drill drill two rows of holes about 5mm apart down the strip of plasticard.

Insert dressmaking pins into the holes to act as posts, push through and cut of at about 8-20mm length (I normally use 1 pin for 2 posts)

Cover bases as required I use basetex, sand and a bit of washing and dry brushing.

Stip out the wires of an old electric cable and wind around the posts,  hold in place with a drop of superglue.

Paint the wire a rsty siver/brown.

It's a bit of work but very flexible and looks good, it's what I used to make the deep triangular entanglements on the photo.