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« on: 12 February 2011, 11:07:13 PM »

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How about some different infantry poses for the great northern war range. The swedes could with a charging with fixed bayonet   pose aswell as some grenadiers doing the same. Also the pike men could do with more agressive pose too as the main swedish tactic was a full on charge .

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« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2011, 09:00:46 AM »

IMO whole GNW line needs remodelling.
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« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2011, 03:08:22 AM »

IMO whole GNW line needs remodelling.

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I can't see that happening any time soon!  I'll pop more poses on the requests lists though.
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« Reply #3 on: 20 February 2011, 06:48:52 PM »

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I'll pop more poses on the requests lists though.
This is what I meant as "remodelling".
You can add more poses to infantry (there is only one), remodell cavalry, creating 2-3 poses od privetes + officer, standard bearer and trumpeter / drummer, all on different horses  Wink
And, what is also important - add proper pack of foot commands, including sergeants with halberds, officers, drummer and standard bearer, all with similar poses - it cannot be like now, when in Swedish pack, all privates poses are static,as well as officer's while standard bearer and drummer are marching.

This applies also to WSS and SYW. You could withdraw all commands from infantry pack and create two packs of commands - static and dynamic (now there is no marching drummer for WSS for example and one must buy GNW Russians to have them).
In both packs of command you should include one officer with spontoon, one officer with sword, standard bearer, drummer and sergeant with halberd.

In SYW things are even more dramatic, because while you offer variety of marching and attacking poses in your infantry, there is no marching/attacking officers.
IMO, you should make for each army two packs of command composed as above (or one, but containing 10 different figures).



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« Reply #4 on: 20 February 2011, 09:47:54 PM »

Here, here! I agree with Maciek. I queryied about the lack of poses in the GNW range awhile back with the response of not enough interest. Well, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. How about simply converting the march, march-attack and port musket poses of the WSS figs to Swedes by adding turnbacks and karpus hat options? Yes, the command figures need reconfiguring as well.  I would also like to see a "left shoulder arms" march pose, much like the Prussian SYW fig. included in the WSS/GNW range.
Thanks Leon!
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« Reply #5 on: 21 February 2011, 12:08:54 AM »

Whilst this would be a nice idea in an ideal world, bear in mind that such additions to any range need to be economical for Pendraken.

Is there really going to be the demand for GNW figures to make it viable to create 10 new command figures? Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: 21 February 2011, 01:32:14 AM »

I will preface this with a stern warning that this will not happen soon, if it happens at all.

But if the LoA range goes well, I may  consider rejigging the GNW range if the Team think its a good idea. We'll see; there's a lot of other stuff for me do to before that.
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« Reply #7 on: 21 February 2011, 07:07:49 AM »

So it's to time to answer the most important question ...
How LoA will be compatible with WSS ?
Because AWI isn't compatible with SYW. I wouldn't try to use AWI figures as seperate units, not even thinkink about mixing them on the stands with SYW.
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« Reply #8 on: 21 February 2011, 09:21:08 AM »

there's a lot of other stuff for me do to before that.

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« Reply #9 on: 21 February 2011, 02:55:27 PM »

How LoA will be compatible with WSS ?
Because AWI isn't compatible with SYW. I wouldn't try to use AWI figures as seperate units, not even thinkink about mixing them on the stands with SYW.

Well Clib did the AWI and is doing the LofA, and the SYW and WSS were done by the same guy, so I'm guessing there'll be similar differences between the ranges.  We couldn't say for certain until we get the first batch through.

We do have customers who mix the AWI and SYW figures though.
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« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2011, 01:46:55 AM »

So it's to time to answer the most important question ...
How LoA will be compatible with WSS ?
Because AWI isn't compatible with SYW. I wouldn't try to use AWI figures as seperate units, not even thinkink about mixing them on the stands with SYW.

It was never intended that the AWI and SYW be mixable (hence the AWI has its own Germans). As Leon says some people do mix them and its possible to do so if you wish, height wise the AWI are taller, but the "heft" of the figures is not too different. Don't know yet how tall the LoA will be.
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« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2011, 09:02:22 AM »

AWI figures are not only taller, but also more robust.
Height is not a problem, as people differ in this matter, but heads and headgear is different size. Tricornes for AWI are nearly twice bigger than for SYW. This is teh problem.
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« Reply #12 on: 22 February 2011, 03:38:11 PM »

Maciek is correct. The sculpting size and style is completely different between AWI and WSS/GNW. A re-work or additions should be done by the original sculptor(who is he?) or, if Clib is to re-do the line, replaced entirely(Not bloody likely). As I stated before, I believe most of the necessary poses can be obtained by simple conversions of the existing WSS or SYW figs. This would not only make them compatible but also give standard poses across the line.
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« Reply #13 on: 22 February 2011, 03:42:00 PM »

do we need them to be compatible ? Don't most people want to integrate SYW figures into AWI because a particular AWI range lacks Germans or French  ? but this range is starting to fill most slots so i'm not sure its an issue (thats not said in an arsey PMT tone of voice more in a genuinely wondering tone)
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« Reply #14 on: 22 February 2011, 03:51:33 PM »

That's the thing. The AWI range is a work in progress, there'll be more French, etc. By its end there should be no need for using figures from anywhere else. If people want to use the AWI with other stuff, that's up to them, and it depends how concerned a given individual is about compatability. But it the AWI line was not designed with an eye on the use of the figures outside the AWI.
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