Britannia Replacement

Started by Heedless Horseman, 30 May 2021, 05:44:37 AM

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Heedless Horseman

30 May 2021, 05:44:37 AM Last Edit: 30 May 2021, 06:10:59 AM by Heedless Horseman
Well, there is this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57293882
Lol!  I am all for a replacement for 'Btitannia! The 'Thames Barge' was embarrassing! At least 'mock up' LOOKS'  like a ship... rather than the sci-fi yachts of the 'really rich'!
Initial 200M ain't much! Last workplace 'shed' cost 2m in the 90s...and didn't go anywhere!  :o

Given that 'The NEW Royals', are increasingly pulling away from their role... hmm.  >:(

Lol comments on design?  Looks great! BUT... would be dwarfed by 'Pontentates' craft! Not much space for an ASW torp or AA silo. Ok 'ambassadorial'... BUT!. So 'escort' needed... lol!!! Aft... no sign of hangar.. and not a lot of room for Helo use.... VERY much required! Could support a nice 'Awning' , tho... some decking and a BBQ! ;)

Still, 'Owt's better than Nowt'!  :)

Just to be 'REALY SILLY.'.. Why not a Sub? Who needs 'deck parties'? Dual purpose... marine exploration/rescue... if not 'officially armed'! Just Imagine the reaction if 'someone 'surfaced 'a refurbished' but still 'capable'  Nuke sub alongside 'yacht'... with an invite for 'Drinkies'... LOL!!!  :'( :'( :'(  Oh Well...  ;D ;D ;D
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flamingpig0

I am not convinced that it will support the UK's "burgeoning status as a great, independent maritime trading nation"  as  leaving aside anything else  it is named after someone who was  mainly known for sneering at foreigners, particularly those from developing nations.  Its NUL POINTS from me.
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The Britania was not needed, nor is a replacement.
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sultanbev

Spending that £200 million fixing the potholes would serve our economy better, although it would be a drop in the ocean of the repairs needed.
But as ever, a classic example of the elites wasting money on vanity projects as their societies collapse around them due to overshoot.

"---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------" Polemics deleted  >:( AKA If m'am would like a boat, surely m'am has all the assets needed to build her own?

If you're gonna build a boat, it should at least have a dock landing bay for landing craft, a hospital and hanger space for Merlins and Chinook sized helicopters, as disaster relief is going to be the largest amount of work carried out by such ships in the coming decades. If I recall correctly the old royal yatcht was used quite often in such missions.

Orcs

As I have said before. If we need a hospital/relief ship we need to build that.

We do not need a Royal Yacht. If the Royals want one they can buy their own using their own vast wealth (.stolen from their subjects by previous royals)

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sultanbev

Quote from: Orcs on 30 May 2021, 10:28:58 AM
As I have said before. If we need a hospital/relief ship we need to build that.

We do not need a Royal Yacht. If the Royals want one they can buy their own using their own vast wealth (.stolen from their subjects by previous royals)



Agreed.

Leman

"The new royals are increasingly pulling away from their role" .... by which I assume you mean they are at last beginning to behave like normal human beings. Well thank gods for that! Less weirdness, less mental illness among them and less for the prurient Daily Mail readers to slaver over behind their lace curtains.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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flamingpig0

Quote from: Leman on 30 May 2021, 10:37:09 AM
"The new royals are increasingly pulling away from their role" .... by which I assume you mean they are at last beginning to behave like normal human beings. Well thank gods for that! Less weirdness, less mental illness among them and less for the prurient Daily Mail readers to slaver over behind their lace curtains.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I think these days Daily Mail readers are more interested in pics of Rita Ora in her underwear.
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Quote from: Leman on 30 May 2021, 10:37:09 AM
"The new royals are increasingly pulling away from their role" .... by which I assume you mean they are at last beginning to behave like normal human beings.

Would that be he normal human beings that keep will keep giving lucrative media interviews until they get the privacy they deserve?

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flamingpig0

All things considered this might be a more appropriate  design, bearing in the mind the Zeitgeist

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Heedless Horseman

30 May 2021, 07:46:08 PM #12 Last Edit: 30 May 2021, 07:59:44 PM by Heedless Horseman
Well, Chaps, comments noted. BUT... FOR ME , (previously dubious!), they rather CONFIRM the NEED !!!  :o

'Britain' has always 'been wobbly'... BUT with an underlying faith in itself.. to 'get through', somehow.  :o ;)

As 'wargamers' you know the importance of 'Flags' or 'Command Stands'!  ;D

Who, in their right mind. would strive, fight or die for some gilded Eagle or Rag...???
But people do.
Some fought for a 'better society' 'aftrerwards'... as you know, That is often a sad LOL.  :(
But... to get there...even as a possibility... 'symbols' or 'figureheads' HELP!

Whether, as a Nation, (or on a personal level)...once 'self belief'  is lost, it is VERY difficult to get it back... so HOLD onto what IS there!

Look at how the 'Falklands' ... or the previous 'Royal Wedding'... 'Boosted' our'belief'... in 'things' in general... and, cynically, the 'economy' ... for a while!

So, just as a 'symbol'... even if of little 'practical' value... I say 'GO FOR IT'!
And, WTH !!!... call it 'BRITANNIA'... even as a 'poke in the eye' with a BLUNT lol stick!... to those who would happily see US down! lol.  ;D
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Raider4

The Americans are currently buying/building a new fleet of "Marine One" helicopters at about $205 million each, so £200 million for one large boat seems not too bad.

Still not needed though. Another one of Boris's 'distraction' plans. See also Boris Island, the Thames Garden Bridge.

flamingpig0

Quote from: Raider4 on 30 May 2021, 08:31:20 PM
The Americans are currently buying/building a new fleet of "Marine One" helicopters at about $205 million each, so £200 million for one large boat seems not too bad.

Still not needed though. Another one of Boris's 'distraction' plans. See also Boris Island, the Thames Garden Bridge.

There was the London fleet of water cannons as well
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"We don't want your stupid tanks!" 
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