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Ithoriel
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« Reply #45 on: 20 May 2021, 03:01:29 PM »

From what I've seen and read, if the Allies thought there were civilians or non-Japanese workers in the cave they'd be given a chance to come out and surrender. Otherwise the entrance was blown and the Japanese troops were entombed.
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« Reply #46 on: 20 May 2021, 05:13:05 PM »

For more turret bunkers, there's also this option: https://www.ijssellinie.nl/en/welcome/

Lots of opportunities for Firefly and/or regular Sherman turrets, and also quad .50 mounts.
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« Reply #47 on: 21 May 2021, 12:22:51 AM »

I think the Allied/US tactic was to block off all the entrances, rather than go in fighting.
Although I am sure you could use any variations on Dungeons & Dragons or even Space Hulk to play an engagement where troops were sent in to route the Japanese out.

My grandad was with the Australian 9th Infantry Division and fought during the Labuan Island assault in 1945.  After the initial landings the Japanese retreated into a cave system in a pocket from which they were launching company level attacks.  My grandad told me they used artillery, direct firing Bofors guns, naval guns, frontal assault to throw in explosives, nothing worked.  In the end they had to land Matilda Frog flamethrowing tanks which basically drove up to the cave entrances and burnt them out.  A lot of Japanese got out into the jungle, but then the Australians had to defend the tunnel entrances as the Japanese tried to get back in.

There’s was no D&D.  There was a lot of hard fighting.
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« Reply #48 on: 21 May 2021, 10:44:36 AM »

Absolutely - I was just saying that if you wanted to try and game an engagement where troops are sent into cave complexes to route out an enemy, then a good gaming mechanism might be to sue something like D&D or Space Hulks  Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: 21 May 2021, 01:52:02 PM »

Dang man. I think it’s awesome you got to speak with him about it.

My grandad was with the Australian 9th Infantry Division and fought during the Labuan Island assault in 1945.  After the initial landings the Japanese retreated into a cave system in a pocket from which they were launching company level attacks.  My grandad told me they used artillery, direct firing Bofors guns, naval guns, frontal assault to throw in explosives, nothing worked.  In the end they had to land Matilda Frog flamethrowing tanks which basically drove up to the cave entrances and burnt them out.  A lot of Japanese got out into the jungle, but then the Australians had to defend the tunnel entrances as the Japanese tried to get back in.

There’s was no D&D.  There was a lot of hard fighting.
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