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« on: 04 March 2021, 03:10:47 AM »

Covid Vac, (Carer), at 'Centre For Life' N'cle in about 10 days.. so thought to 'recce' it on an internet map. LOL!  Wink 'Normal' maps crap...'places of Interest'... (Hatchet Harry's Axe Throwing' (?) ... could make no sense of the thing!  Shocked SO, Resorted to the 'Aerial' view... Well, the Luftwaffe did!  Grin Christ! Have THEY been BACK?  Shocked Newcastle has been 'BLITZED' since the 90s! What a Horror!  Shocked  Having found the Railway Station, I can make a rough location for 'The Objective'... but rather think that getting the' Battle  Bus' and 'infiltrate' on foot might be a 'better'  Sad  option than 'vehicular insertion' and trying to find an LUP!!  Grin. Just hope Ma's 2nd jab will still be Local!  Sad WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO NEWCASTLE Huh? !!!  Sad Sad Sad
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« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2021, 06:44:19 AM »

Sad WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO NEWCASTLE Huh? !!!  Sad Sad Sad

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« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2021, 08:24:32 AM »

Ian, I think the Geordies where there before the 1990s

I lived in Newcastle in the mid 90s, and having been back approx 10 years ago (was going to write 5, but then did some better sums...) there has been huge changes around the city centre. The whole Centre for Life being one of them. Id avoid driving in, if you can get a bus or train in, then the centre is compact to walk around.
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« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2021, 12:06:38 PM »

Well dey wuz der last time I wuz - 1960's
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« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2021, 05:26:51 PM »

Personally, I find 'Urban Regeneration' Depressing, rather than 'vibrant'.  Sad
When I was a 'student' at N'cle Poly, (early 80s), there was a mildly eccentric lecturer... quite a nice guy. The 'type' who had his glasses on a cord and, I think,' had a 'Deerstalker' Hat! Lecture 'Fun'  Evil was to get him going about 'His Passion'... old architectural features! I think his 'hobby' was to go around the 'Toon' in mornings, taking photos of 'interesting' brickwork, chimneys, etc!  Smiley
I rather think that it might have been a 'good' experience to accompany him on such an excursion... but...  Sad
Probably long 'gone', now.  Sad I wonder what He would have made of all the redevelopments? Maybe, he might have thought 'New' architectural 'Design', 'exciting'?  Shocked
For Myself... it may be 'clever'... but 'soul-less'... despite the 'passions' of 'creators'.  Sad
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« Reply #5 on: 05 March 2021, 08:07:18 PM »

I think it depends on what the urban area was like to start with.

The quay side developments in Ncl have certainly made an area that was deserted into a really popular recreational area of bars etc.. The developments to the west of the centre are perhaps a bit more questionable, but have certainly taken some pretty run down residential areas to make in to ones that people want to come into for museums and the like.. But there is the question that can the parking and other infrastructure support this? And you have moved people away from the city centre.
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« Reply #6 on: 06 March 2021, 06:24:56 AM »

I think it depends on what the urban area was like to start with.

The quay side developments in Ncl have certainly made an area that was deserted into a really popular recreational area of bars etc.. The developments to the west of the centre are perhaps a bit more questionable, but have certainly taken some pretty run down residential areas to make in to ones that people want to come into for museums and the like.. But there is the question that can the parking and other infrastructure support this? And you have moved people away from the city centre.

True enough, Fred. There were some pretty squalid places! There still will be... depends on the 'recreational activiities' that occur!  Shocked LOL! 90s, I regularly ate my lunch on a bench on a 'tarted up' stepped bank. Thought the occasional 'poo' was Dog. THEN found a 'ripped' off pair of male underpants...  Shocked Cry

I tend to be 'nostalgic' for 'old things'. Late 80s, I sometimes worked on the Counter at the old Head Post Office opposite St. Nicks...now residential. To me, it was a wonderful place! Counter was, (Of course!), screened, and it was BIG, 'airy', (a bit chilly in Winter!)... but with polished wood  / brass. By my day, floor was lino, but there would still have been a 'proper' floor under it! It Just 'felt' 'Professional'  Smiley I personally, 'Loathe' the modern concept of 'customer friendly' Banks, etc... with somebody standing at a 'desk' in the middle of a room... and that is as a CUSTOMER!  Grin

Upstairs was the Admin, etc...with twisty passageways and 'inexplicable' steps? Shocked Small 'sections' had their 'Dens' in little 'cubby hole' offices... NOW, you only see this stuff in old movies/TV series! The Toilets were amazing... overhead cisterns like small bathtubs with pull chains... AND THEY NEVER BLOCKED!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin

There was 'another floor', I think, But THAT was somewhere that you did not wish to go... and when 'The 'Gods' DID step down... to cash a cheque.. well, they were not always 'Gods'... sometimes they 'thought' they were... but WE were 'COUNTER STAFF'!!! and HAD to play 'Their' rules! They got 'miffed', sometimes! Shocked Grin

I wish that I could have explored the downstairs, (By my time, disused}, old 'Sorting Office' and 'back rooms'... but were locked off.  Sad There WILL have been a Basement.. and just what MAY have been 'down there'...Huh? WW2 / Cold War??? Don't know!  Shocked Maybe, just MY imagination!  Wink Grin

In the 90s, we, what was left of us, ('Counters' had gone  Sad )... were relocated to a 'Big Shed'!  Grin Sad 'Warehouse' environment and 'workstations'...(with some 'cosy' bits for Admin roles)... and frequently blocked Toilets!  Cry Forgive My Nostalgia!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: 06 March 2021, 09:57:40 AM »

Personally, I find 'Urban Regeneration' Depressing, rather than 'vibrant'.  Sad
When I was a 'student' at N'cle Poly, (early 80s), there was a mildly eccentric lecturer... quite a nice guy. The 'type' who had his glasses on a cord and, I think,' had a 'Deerstalker' Hat! Lecture 'Fun'  Evil was to get him going about 'His Passion'... old architectural features! I think his 'hobby' was to go around the 'Toon' in mornings, taking photos of 'interesting' brickwork, chimneys, etc!  Smiley
I rather think that it might have been a 'good' experience to accompany him on such an excursion... but...  Sad
Probably long 'gone', now.  Sad I wonder what He would have made of all the redevelopments? Maybe, he might have thought 'New' architectural 'Design', 'exciting'?  Shocked
For Myself... it may be 'clever'... but 'soul-less'... despite the 'passions' of 'creators'.  Sad

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« Reply #8 on: 06 March 2021, 12:21:20 PM »

I used to visit cousins in Newcastle in the 50's and 60's, West Allotments.

There was literally a few rows of back to back houses with outside toilets, Co-Op to one side, primary school (Holystone) to the other, farms and farmland all around.

The back to back houses are still there, hope the outside toilets have gone and the farmland is all housing estates now.

There was a huge pond where we used to hunt tadpoles and frogs, its still there.

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« Reply #9 on: 06 March 2021, 05:14:44 PM »

Were you ever a grocer?
Erm, no... though sometimes rather gross! Not sure where  that comes from, FK? Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: 06 March 2021, 05:31:08 PM »

I used to visit cousins in Newcastle in the 50's and 60's, West Allotments.

There was literally a few rows of back to back houses with outside toilets, Co-Op to one side, primary school (Holystone) to the other, farms and farmland all around.

The back to back houses are still there, hope the outside toilets have gone and the farmland is all housing estates now.

There was a huge pond where we used to hunt tadpoles and frogs, its still there.

Jim

The famly farm where I was a small child, was about a mile or so from there. Chirton Grange farm was 'Compulsory Purchased'  for housing development in '66. In other words, we were kicked off our land! My Granda 'signed the papers' in a morning...and died in the afternoon. I don't like 'planners' and 'development' ! Sad
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« Reply #11 on: 15 March 2021, 05:07:10 AM »

Had 1st Covid jab today, (Sunday 14th), at 'Centre For Life', N'cle. (Being a 'carer', I got a letter inviting me to make a booking, a while back). I thought that there would be huge queues and parking problems... but, no. No queue... well, one person! In and out in less than 20 mins, (including the 15 min wait afterwards. Plenty of parking in the 'pay' car park nearby... but other days may be different! Jab was the Oxford AstraZeneca. 'Possible' side-effects... will have to wait and see... (But I cannot fathom those countries suspending their programmes over a MINISCULE number of 'clotting' issues which may easily be unrelated! IF the issue worries you, then maybe try to find out what jabs may be on offer at various sites?).

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« Reply #12 on: 15 March 2021, 05:07:41 AM »

Had thought about getting a Bus in... but no regular timetables, so drove.  1st use of new SatNav! It works!  Smiley Well, sort of... once target in sight, I ignored and used 'The Force'! lol Wink .  'Centre For Life' is in what used to be the old 'Cattle Market'. NO cows in MY day, just Busses... rather peculiar, revisiting just a small area...but COMPLETELY different to memory! 'Some' of the surrounding area relatively unchanged, although, 'a certain 'retail outlet' Wink  'may' have gone... times change and so do people, (TOO OLD for 'that stuff' now! Wink so wasn't looking... HONEST! Wink LOL! (Some WILL know!  Evil  Wink ).
Was pleased to see that a 'relic' building had been left... like the 'frontage for 'The Oxford'...'Tiff's,' in my day... which has also been kept as a memory to 'times past'... Sad Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: 15 March 2021, 07:22:39 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: 15 March 2021, 01:56:13 PM »

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