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onyrevient
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« on: 25 September 2020, 11:38:34 AM »

back in wargame after 20 year I must choose witch rules/scales to use.

I already hown
1871: Fast Play Grand Tactical Rules For the Franco-Prussian War
They Died For Glory
Polemos Komandant der armee

So far I consider Polemos, I like a lot the 60*60 bases look.

since 30 years look like the rules are now more simple, specially the command system, good move I think. they are more close to the first I have played with
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Chris Pringle
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« Reply #1 on: 25 September 2020, 12:15:20 PM »

As you said in your Welcome thread, BBB could be an option. It was primarily designed for FPW. The rulebook contains 9 scenarios for the biggest battles of the war. We fought all 9 to a finish in a 3-day weekend (3 games a day, about 4 hours per game including set-up and take-down).

There are another 7 scenarios freely available from the group files.
https://groups.io/g/bloodybigbattles/files/1870%20Franco-Prussian%20War/Free%20scenarios%20-%20FPW
The Corlears Hook Fencibles, in New York, fought through 14 of these in a more leisurely campaign of about one battle a month:
http://corlearshookfencibles.blogspot.com/2017/03/la-guerre-est-finie.html

Lots of reviews listed on the BBBBlog (search under the 'Review of BBB' label).

Good luck with finding the ruleset that best suits your tastes.

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Nick the Lemming
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« Reply #2 on: 25 September 2020, 01:17:34 PM »

I'll second Bloody Big Battles, they're great rules and pretty quick to pick up, and with the ability to play the big battles (it's int he name after all) with ease.

I know that Leman has also recommended Weigle's 1870 and 1871 rules sets, which I'm still yet to pick up.
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Chad
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« Reply #3 on: 25 September 2020, 01:37:34 PM »

BruceWeigle’s rules are worth getting as apart from the rules themselves they contain a lot of useful background information as well as OOBs and maps.
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Steve J
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« Reply #4 on: 25 September 2020, 02:32:52 PM »

Bloody Big Battles to play the games, Bruce's books for plenty of excellent background info. BBB also has loads of great scenarios too.
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« Reply #5 on: 25 September 2020, 10:10:07 PM »

Another option is Volley & Bayonet: Road to Glory, the second edition of Volley & Bayonet published in 2008.

It includes rules for the Black Powder Era from 1700 to 1890 and can be purchased here

https://testofbattle.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22&osCsid=ak464eaddcmfc4km94pa410up5

While primarily focused on the Napoleonic period it is widely used for ACW and various conflicts around 1870

Each base represents a brigade so very large battles can be fought in a reasonable space

You can find more information on the rules, including many AARs, at this site https://volleyandbayonet.wordpress.com/volley-bayonet-publications/
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« Reply #6 on: 26 September 2020, 01:05:53 AM »

Like wizard rules?
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« Reply #7 on: 26 September 2020, 04:06:38 AM »

Onyrevient, you will quickly discover that a particular cat can be pedantic about spelling and punctuation

Occasionally it is amusing, the rest of the time  Sigh

He does also provide a good selection of pictures of his models and games as well as more interesting discussions Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: 26 September 2020, 07:42:23 AM »

I would recommend Bloody Big Battles as it has scenarios for all of the major battles for the FPW and all playable on a 6x4 table
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« Reply #9 on: 26 September 2020, 08:04:07 AM »

Seconded
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« Reply #10 on: 26 September 2020, 08:40:21 AM »

Onyrevient, you will quickly discover that a particular cat can be pedantic about spelling and punctuation

Occasionally it is amusing, the rest of the time  Sigh

He does also provide a good selection of pictures of his models and games as well as more interesting discussions Smiley

You and Ian are the same person, aren't you?

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« Reply #11 on: 26 September 2020, 10:43:11 AM »

BBB definitely gives a good game, plenty of scenarios and well supported. I've not played any FPW but had fun with some Crimean and ACW scenarios.

As Paul says, don't pay too much mind to FierceKitty and his pedantic ways.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: 26 September 2020, 10:50:51 AM »

The only freedom that matters is the freedom to say that two and two make four. All others follow from this.
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onyrevient
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« Reply #13 on: 26 September 2020, 12:41:34 PM »

Look like BBB has a lot of favors but what's the difference with Polemos Komandant der armee ?

Onyrevient, you will quickly discover that a particular cat can be pedantic about spelling and punctuation

Occasionally it is amusing, the rest of the time  Sigh

He does also provide a good selection of pictures of his models and games as well as more interesting discussions Smiley

not sure to understand everything, anyway I have 2 dogs, Miss Poupette et Sir Winston definitively not peasant Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: 26 September 2020, 02:10:55 PM »

You and Ian are the same person, aren't you?

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Certrainly not - I am completely and totally unique  Tongue Tongue
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