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« on: 31 August 2020, 10:51:03 AM »

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good book (or 2) about British armour in the Korean conflict?

Our resident Centurion aficionado perhaps?
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« Reply #1 on: 31 August 2020, 10:58:55 AM »

Can't think of any speific books on British armour in the Korean War. the Cents arrived in the second wave and were Mk 3's. The Canadians used M4A3E8 and M36's. Inital British armour was from Hong Kong garrison equiped with de-flamed Churchill VII Crocodiles, because they were there. There were also some Cromwells attatched to the Centurion Rgt (probably 9?) as recce vehicles - one of which was captured by the Chinese and dispatched by a Cent. As far as I know that was the only Chinese manned tank encoutered by the British.

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« Reply #2 on: 31 August 2020, 11:37:38 AM »

I don't have one specifically on Korean War armour.

I think Mark Felton says most of it in 4 minutes 20 seconds.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9iHtOu-Cc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9iHtOu-Cc</a>
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« Reply #3 on: 31 August 2020, 12:22:05 PM »

Thanks chaps!

Mr. Felton is usually my first stop on YouTube if I am looking at something military, so have seen that excellent video.

looks like the general stuff I have will have to do
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« Reply #4 on: 31 August 2020, 02:37:22 PM »

What are you looking for? Histories or technicals?
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« Reply #5 on: 31 August 2020, 04:14:47 PM »

I suspect both ?

A general coverage is Vangaurd 27 - armour of the Korean War - note NOT new vanguard.
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« Reply #6 on: 31 August 2020, 04:34:38 PM »

Yes a bit of both - preferably with some "people who were there"-type anecdotes

Was reading some US recollections and they were always amazed at where the Cents could get to in terrain that was definitely NOT tank friendly.

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« Reply #7 on: 31 August 2020, 05:55:15 PM »

Well  there's Armoured Warfare in the Korean War, from the Images of War Series (Anthony Tucker-Jones, Pen and Sword, 2012)

I have British Forces in the Korean War (Cunningham-Booth and Farrar, British Koreans Veterans Association, 1988) which is probably a bit hard to get hold of. Lots of personal stories, but not much in the tankie world

Similarly British Soldiers in the Korean War (Stephen F Kelly, History Press 2012) doesn't talk a lot about tanks.

The books I have about Centurions skip over Korea in a couple of pages.

This is an interesting read - though it is by a Kiwi.
http://antipodeanarmour.blogspot.com/p/centurion-tanks-in-korea-report-by-lt-j.html


If find something, let me know!
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« Reply #8 on: 31 August 2020, 06:02:11 PM »

See the Firing Now! article.
https://www.krh.org.uk/uploads/4/5/0/9/45090939/newsletter_for_website_2016.pdf

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« Reply #9 on: 31 August 2020, 10:01:59 PM »

Loved the NZer report!

Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: 31 August 2020, 10:57:50 PM »

I've made a start on the Kiwi's report and am definitely enjoying his candor Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 01 September 2020, 08:44:27 AM »

I've made a start on the Kiwi's report and am definitely enjoying his candor Wink

Well the NZ Army must have been suitably impressed by the report to buy at least one squadron's worth of them in the mid 50's (11 in total).....because if you drive past the NZ Army Museum at Waiouru you will see this sight.......



and if you go a bit further north (on a good day) you will see this......



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« Reply #12 on: 01 September 2020, 09:02:37 AM »

Interestingly the report specifically mentions not traversing the gun like that, at least not to pitch a bivvy over Grin

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This is an interesting read - though it is by a Kiwi.
http://antipodeanarmour.blogspot.com/p/centurion-tanks-in-korea-report-by-lt-j.html
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Having finished the report I can strongly recommend it, allowances must however be made for the time it was written when it comes to some of the phraseology
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« Reply #13 on: 01 September 2020, 02:39:18 PM »

I agree a most enjoyable report - I like the idea of Centurions climbing 1:2 gradient hills in low gear at 2mph but always getting to the top in the end.
Similarly the bunker-busting capabilities of the 20iber was insightful.

The descriptors of the enemy as Mr Chow, Mr WU and Joe was also illuminating. Every conflict has it's slang for the opponents !
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« Reply #14 on: 01 September 2020, 04:54:10 PM »

Odd gearing on the Cent - 18 MPH cross country, and 20.8 on a road. The Cheiftain was similar, I've seen working ones go steaming past M60's leaving thenm for dead cross country, and could keep up with Leo I
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