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mmcv
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Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Was prepping some of the Aztec range earlier today which included a rather frustrating half hour trying to affix a few back banners. Managed to get a few attached, mostly from luck and careful scaffolds to hold in place until dry but that's a massive faff.
Any tips on how to do it better.
Tried so far:
Superglue + backbanner held for a while by hand = fail
Superglue + backbanner on facedown model balanced on random offcuts + bluetac + more superglue = moderate success, though occasional additional things stuck on and slight loss of detail where superglue flowed.
Above techniques with the addition of baking powder to speed along = massive fail, would form into large clumps and fall off or if it did attach, cover all details and make it look like a giant swarm of wasps have built a nest on the poor guys back. Need to sand down or strip that one and see if it's salvageable.
Trying next time:
Carving a bit of a groove into the back to hopefully provide more grip.
Maybe try a resin rather than glue.
Milliput to shape in place.
Any other or better suggestions?
These frustratingly fiddly faffy bits are one of my least favourite parts of the hobby...
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Ithoriel
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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08 May 2020, 12:57:59 AM »
For something like that you need tiny amounts of baking powder.
Assembled and undercoated some 15mm Ashigaru for a friend recently. Tiny streak of superglue on figure's back, run the banner pole through the baking powder, gentlest of taps if I got too much powder on (i.e. more than a few grains), apply banner to back. Few seconds later, solid bond. Worked for me. YMMV!
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Glue in hole, then bend 90 degrees worked best for me!
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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I have been sticking on sashimonos recently. I use superglue to begin, then a small dab of two-part epoxy to make a more reliable bond.
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mmcv
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Thanks!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 08 May 2020, 12:57:59 AM
For something like that you need tiny amounts of baking powder.
I did initially try something like that but couldn't get a solid enough hold so tried upping the quantities. Might just be the low surface area.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 May 2020, 01:13:37 AM
Glue in hole, then bend 90 degrees worked best for me!
Interesting... May try that, assuming I don't snap them on bending!
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 May 2020, 04:11:50 AM
I have been sticking on sashimonos recently. I use superglue to begin, then a small dab of two-part epoxy to make a more reliable bond.
How are you holding them in place while it dries? Just by hand/tweezers?
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ianrs54
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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If you hold by hand they will stick to your fingers, honest !
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FierceKitty
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Superglue on back of figure. Press banner into contact. Wait a moment, then switch the hand that was holding the banner, applying pressure with tip of fingernail. That
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mmcv
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Quote from: ianrs54 on 08 May 2020, 09:26:39 AM
If you hold by hand they will stick to your fingers, honest !
Yes they will indeed!
Quote from: FierceKitty on 08 May 2020, 09:38:48 AM
Superglue on back of figure. Press banner into contact. Wait a moment, then switch the hand that was holding the banner, applying pressure with tip of fingernail. That
usually
does the job.
Maybe I'm just not patient enough but doesn't seem to hold well enough in place.
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FierceKitty
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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It just needs to hold it until the epoxy sets.
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mmcv
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Yeah it's maybe the epoxy I'm missing in that regard to give a bit of a firmer hold.
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Re: Affixing back banners, any tips?
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Don't, too fiddly in 10mm for me.
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mmcv
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Quote from: Orcs on 08 May 2020, 01:27:56 PM
Don't, too fiddly in 10mm for me.
Tempting, but it's such a big part of the look of them. I'm only doing a few per unit though to reduce the pain somewhat.
The separate sashimono are one thing that would put me off doing a medieval Japanese army...so many backbanners.
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