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« Reply #30 on: 21 January 2020, 10:08:20 AM »

Ashigaru with upright Yari and standing shooting with harquebus would be good ones for 1 pose packs (IMHO)

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« Reply #31 on: 21 January 2020, 11:11:38 AM »

All my existing pikemen have yari sloping forward; I prefer that pose myself.
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« Reply #32 on: 21 January 2020, 12:55:49 PM »

Yes,equally good.

But as I usually cut, drill and replace all my spears/pikes/yari with wire/pins - I like easier to access and drill poses.

PS: The Mobile Shrine would be a great addition to the range.
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« Reply #33 on: 21 January 2020, 01:13:13 PM »

I'd like to see mounted sohei too. And even more poses, of course.
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« Reply #34 on: 23 January 2020, 11:09:31 PM »

And a bunch of unarmoured or poorly armed Ronin ... very useful.

Plus a few more general civilians mostly male - especially some kneeling/kau tau'ing, with forehead to the ground in deference as the great Lord rides by or a bunch of belligerent monks strut past with a mobile shrine!
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« Reply #35 on: 31 January 2020, 03:44:30 PM »

The Peter Pig rules 'Battles in the Age of War' are an excellent set of rules for small/medium actions ( not played large so will refrain from commenting )
They give a real feel for the period and have mixed units (thank the lord). The pre battle section gives nice flavour too
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« Reply #36 on: 31 January 2020, 05:50:52 PM »

The "mixed units" thing sounds interesting and curious ... do you mean mixed weapons or mixed social status levels?

I had always understood it that Ashigaru might be led by Samurai but they were not in mixed units?
I cannot see mixing Ronin in with Ashigaur or Samurai or even Warrior Monks.

Likewise I'd also always understood it that bows and harquebus armed troops (Ashigaru specifically) were not formed up together or in mixed units with Yari armed troops.

Depending upon the era, even Samurai were brigaded according to weapon type, especially later on.
Ronin on their own might be very mixed, but its debatable that they'd have enough bows or firearms to warrant significant missile capabilities.

Is there any justification around the mixed unit mechanism at all?

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« Reply #37 on: 31 January 2020, 06:13:55 PM »

There is a suggestion that most Samurai units (Sonae) consisted of a series of lines of troops. For example, Teppo-gumi (with a few Yumi-gumi to cover the front during reloading) then a line of Ashigaru with Yari or Naginata, followed by a line of Samurai with an Ashigaru backing them up or alternate blocks of foot and mounted samurai, Then the Daimyo who brought the sonae to the battle backed by flagbearers and flanked by more mounted samurai, finally the logistics arm of the Sonae.

For a more detailed explanation see: http://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/03/sengoku-period-warfare-part-1-army-and.html

The later Sengoku Jidai battles would, I believe, see more homogeneous units as armies grew.

So for the early period mixed units may well be exactly what needs to be represented.
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« Reply #38 on: 02 February 2020, 02:19:02 PM »

each 'unit' represents one commanded by a lower level samurai consisting of the various lines. Yari Ashigaru units will have the attached missile support but said missiles will be part of the whole unit and not an independent unit to move around the table. The unit will also have a command base of samurai and possibly a bodyguard base for that samurai. Two or more of these blocks will form the Clan generals contingent with two or more Clan leaders forming the army of the Daimyo.

This article shows the historical version with pictures and descriptions better. Its a TMP thread as i can't find the original after reformatting from windows 7-10 Sad

 http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=277195
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« Reply #39 on: 02 February 2020, 02:27:46 PM »

Do bear in mind that those woodblocks are centuries later than the Sengoku era. Imagine what the result would be if extra-terrestrials took DBA as an authentic tactical document....
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« Reply #40 on: 05 February 2020, 05:14:23 PM »

Shall we be able to buy these by the end of March? I'm planning to be in France for a while in April, and could have them delivered to my hosts in Paris....
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« Reply #41 on: 05 February 2020, 05:39:25 PM »

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« Reply #42 on: 05 February 2020, 05:44:35 PM »

Shall we be able to buy these by the end of March? I'm planning to be in France for a while in April, and could have them delivered to my hosts in Paris....

Should be, I'll be starting the production moulds next week.
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« Reply #43 on: 14 March 2020, 11:32:44 PM »

Second question, will there be a set of rules to go with these guys for larger scale battles, or does anybody have suggestions or pointers in the right direction?

I must recommend 2d6's excellent Banzai Rules.

https://www.2d6wargaming.com/pages/banzai-age-of-the-country-at-war

These are custom written for 6mm large scale battles, are fast, furious and fun.
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« Reply #44 on: 15 March 2020, 09:49:43 AM »

I am currently faced with choosing rules for my 6mm Baccus troops.  I found the following reviews helpful.


https://meeples.wordpress.com/2017/03/16/review-banzai/


https://meeples.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/review-killer-katanas-ii/


https://meeples.wordpress.com/2017/03/15/review-battles-in-the-age-of-war/


My choice might have fallen on Peter Pig's RFCM Battles in the Age of War but I am toying with the DBAesque The Age of the Country at War, published by Barrie Lovell in 1993; however, it is difficult to find.

Another idea to look it is Tenkatoitsu, details can be followed here: https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/yamazaki-1582/

See:
https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/yamazaki-1582/
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/214296/tenkatoitsu

Additionally consider:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/122913/samurai-battles
https://www.gmtgames.com/p-724-commands-colors-samurai-battles.aspx
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