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Dr Dave
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« on: 16 June 2019, 12:49:48 PM »

Mark,

We were trying to use the stats yesterday and all got very confused with regards to the CS tanks attacks.

In France the AP and AT attacks are:
A9   3.7"       2/40      0/40        (should this be blank?)
A10 3.7"       1/40       0/40       (should this be blank?)
[the Matilda II CS is missing]

In Africa the AP and AT attacks are:
A9   3.7"       2/40       0/40         (should this be blank?)
A10 3.7"       3/80       1/40         (hence can't ever use suppressive fire?)
Crusader  3"  2/80      1/40         (hence can't ever use suppressive fire?)
Matilda II 3"  2/80     - (blank)
Churchill  3"  2/80     - (blank)

Clearly, there are some errors here.

Wouldn't it be simpler to make them all
AP: 2/80    AT:   -

The 3" had a maximum effective range of > 1800 m, so pretty much the full los on most tables. The 3.7" had a longer range still. Due to the real lack of HE ammo carried (about 4 out of 60 rounds) perhaps they should just be "3 Smk / 80 ?
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AJ at the Bank
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« Reply #1 on: 16 June 2019, 06:00:59 PM »

Hi Dr

At the risk of only trying to help part of the question.

If 0/40 is right -

Would mean that AT is capable at v short range .E.g. 20cm or under.
At this range you get the +1d6 to hit modifier ..for half range ...and could get another +1d6 if firing to the flank/rear.

This does seem at odds with the Note in the army list though.
Is that the issue (or part thereof)?
A

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« Reply #2 on: 16 June 2019, 10:46:33 PM »

At the risk of repeating myself ....

AT 0-40 is to represent firing Smoke.
We have had this debate on a separate thread, in great detail and length (no there is no +1 d6 for under half-range either - because Smoke is being shot not AT rounds).
Smoke rounds had a lower range than HE.

The A9 and A10's in France had no AT shells (only Smoke) and a very low number of HE shells - so the bulk of the AP is in fact multiple MGs which is reflected by the range - these are primarily Infantry Support tanks and do so with their multiple MGs.

Regarding North Africa - the A10 3.7" & the Crusader 3" did have some AT shells - and so does get the 1/40* and therefore does get the +1 d;6 for half range and the under, plus the under 20cm +1 d:6 for MGs. *They can also fire Smoke at the AT range.

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Dr Dave
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« Reply #3 on: 17 June 2019, 10:45:18 AM »

Mark,

Apologies - I did try a search for "smoke" and "smk" in the threads but neither appear - which is odd! I'm now keeping a list of the errata.

Your help and patience is much appreciated.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 17 June 2019, 01:58:19 PM »

No problem Dave
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