WW2 Turkisn uniform colour

[Sunray]

Yes, neutral Turkey-  with the French helmet. Is the uniform a light khaki shade ?  Hard to discern from B&W images . :-

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Ask our resident expert, the Professor?

[Leman]

That'll be an interesting game:

What are you doing Mustapha?

Having a ciggy. What are you doing?

Marching up and down a bit.

[fsn]

Found these ...



https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2018/12/02/turkey-ahistorical-wwii-evolvement/

[fsn]

Bet KT Travlos will know.   

[sultanbev]

My WW2 Turkish army infantry use a very pale grey-green for the base uniform;
French Adrian helmets in Humbrol 159 Green;
dark webbing in chocolate brown.
Blanket roll - stone green+ umber straps
great coat - stone green
back pack - stone, almost white
bread bag- dried earth
canteen - leather+ cream cross strap
shoes - leather brown, not black

Officers in dark grey coat and pants, black boots, dark grey sholder straps, shiny black webbing, red collar tabs.
Motorised infantry have black or leather jackboots, black cross belts adn straps
Cavalry; as infantry, some in black boots.
British helmets and battledress from 1941 for artillery and cavalry; most front line infantry in British battledress and helmts by 1943.

[sultanbev]

By the way I had commissioned a Frenchmen with Boys A/T RIfle specifically for my WW2 Turkish army, but it hasn't made it's way through to production moulds yet.

Mark

[Leman]

Found these ...



https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2018/12/02/turkey-ahistorical-wwii-evolvement/

Yep, fair bit of marching up and down going on there.

[Sunray]

Many thanks to all for the very prompt and very detailed response.  Yes, Turkey's counterfactual entry into WW2 prior to February 1945 is an interesting game potential . 

[sultanbev]

You do have multiple options.
In 1939 the Turks and French had a dispute over an enclave on the Syrian border, so that's one potential conflict.
In 1941 the Turks mobilised when Barbarossa started. One reason Bulgaria didn't join the invasion of Russia was that the best part of their forces were mobilised on the Turkish border, so you have a fairly even scrap potential between Turkish and Bulgarian forces.
Later in 1941, when the Aussie 9th Division was pulled out of Tobruk, it was deployed to northern Syria as the establishment was seriously concerned that the Turks might invade from the north.
In 1944 the Turks mobilised again when the Soviets started coming the other way. T-34/85s and Is-2 versus Valentines and a few Panzer IVs wouldn't be pleasant, but at least you get to play with Deacons and Bishops. Guess where all our crap went after the Tunisian campaign? To the Turks....
In 1945 Stalin did contemplate invade Turkey, but the losses in Germany put paid to that idea.
The you have the consideration of a German blackmail - give us access or we'll invade, in 1941, as a precursor to a later Barbarossa, or to help Rommel in North Africa. With 40 divisions, invading Turkey wouldn't be an easy task, but just driving a Panzer Korps across to invade the Caucasus or northern Syria would have been a major logistical exercise in it's own right.

On top of that you can get ultra medieval and just pit the Turks against traditional opponents, eg Russians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Vichy Syrians or colonial Brits in Syria/Palestine/Iraq/Egypt.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello

From the Axis History forum topic https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=111925  :-

he inter war and WW2 Turkish army had pale grey (winter or cold weather) and khaki drill/mustard yellow/sandy summer uniforms.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[hobuyuran]

Hi there,
Army Museum Uniforms Album says, uniform is khaki indeed and agrees with sultanbey.
Here my copy's photos of related pages. Note that uniforms are of colonel and a staff lt colonel's so you may expect better quality webbing, belts etc.
Officers wear balt leather boots and belts.
Red edging on pants is usually on dress uniform not on battle uniforms.
Gray greatcoats worns in winter with  double 6 buttons (golden). Soft hat in khaki color as well.

Infantry private,
Uniform in khaki woolen with 4 bone buttons. Same colored breeches, leggins and soft caps with visors.

[hobuyuran]

And here are the related sources' other pages (in Turkish)

[hobuyuran]

Forum only allows me to attach 2 photos at a time.
Here is the cover of the album

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Good source, thank you