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« Reply #300 on: 28 June 2020, 07:36:33 AM »



1) Sunjester's Lucky Dice (Orcs will confirm; three 6s on 4 dice is taking the piss) - But absolutely normal for Sunjesters dice

2) My Dice (again, ask Orcs) _- Buy some more.  Take them outside where they can see your old dice. THen infromnt of them either smash the old dice with a hammer or burn them with a blow torch. then explain to the new dice that is what happens to dice that do not throw the correct numbers.

3) I always choose the Austrians...Why - choose British,


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« Reply #301 on: 28 June 2020, 01:46:38 PM »

As much as I'd like to do the British, in not sure it is possible to get rules that work for them because they were so different to the rest of Europe. Also the British didn't take part in the Austro-Prussian and -Franco wars of the 1850s and 60s.
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« Reply #302 on: 28 June 2020, 07:56:47 PM »

But they did take part in the Crimea, and India, look how well they did there, upsetting allies and insulting those supposed to be on our side. The Army is too far spread to help really....

The navy was rather useful, at looking good. Its tactics werent kerping uo with technology, just coz it was bigger, did it make it better?

We were still paraniod the French would invade in the 1850s.  Palmerston's Follies anyone...

And they had a tendency to start supporting one side, then switch to back for the underdog ( FPW), or just pull out without getting involved due to business  (ACW, Maximillian in Mexico).

What statues to pull down from this period, we didn't deserve it...
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« Reply #303 on: 28 June 2020, 09:05:25 PM »

Look, I'm trying to get Sunjester to do little wooden Russians for 1805, don't confuse the matter!
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« Reply #304 on: 28 June 2020, 11:46:06 PM »

The navy was rather useful, at looking good. Its tactics werent kerping uo with technology, just coz it was bigger, did it make it better?

Would you care to elaborate on that, given that it converted sail ships to steam and introduced the screw frigate?
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« Reply #305 on: 29 June 2020, 08:59:38 AM »

But its tactics were still those of Nelson.

Fair point.
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« Reply #306 on: 29 June 2020, 09:59:20 AM »

Look, I'm trying to get Sunjester to do little wooden Russians for 1805, don't confuse the matter!

Two problems their,
1 SJ is not really interested in Napoleonics- Yes he will happilly play the game as he is a wargames slapper - Any Period, Any rules , Any side.
2 He has lots to paint that interests him. 
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« Reply #307 on: 29 June 2020, 01:58:28 PM »

But its tactics were still those of Nelson.

Fair point.

I think the problems arise in the late Victorian period as demonstrated by the loss of the VICTORIA and the signals debacle of WWI. Of course you might argue that such failures make a period MORE interesting.
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« Reply #308 on: 29 June 2020, 02:08:36 PM »

The signals problem in WWI were due to a lack of voice radio, and coal smoke. Overall in the only major battle only one signal would have appered to have gone astray, BCF to 5th Battle Squadron. Yes there were problems at Dogger Bank, but that was due to an unclear signal not not seeing it.
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« Reply #309 on: 29 June 2020, 04:59:14 PM »

Signals problem is WWI was as much down to radio being new and no-one having worked through the practical application of it, so you had the Admiralty giving orders directly to the ships.

Plus lots of reliance on short-range comms by flags, which had the problem of smoke and damage - which I suspect was hardly a new problem for WWI, but ranges were probably longer, so harder to see.

Plus RN focusing on volume of fire over accuracy - which was the reverse of the German approach. Coupled with manual range spotting trying to work amongst the scatter of lots of shooting from lots of different guns.
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« Reply #310 on: 30 June 2020, 12:17:54 AM »

One of the major issues in WWI was that nobody realised the visibility issues so units at the periphery failed to inform the centre of what was happening.  In Nelsonís day, subject to smoke, the fleets were visible to the admirals.  At Jutland, Jellicoe was deploying his fleet of dreadnoughts without proper scouting intelligence.  There was too much of doing as one was told and not enough about ensuring effective communication.
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