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Shedman
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« on: 03 January 2019, 05:52:18 PM »

I'd like to see the ECW pikemen packs done without pikes so i can add my own pikes - pretty please
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« Reply #1 on: 03 January 2019, 06:50:24 PM »

Generally for all pike troops throughout the ranges.
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« Reply #2 on: 11 January 2019, 06:50:11 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: 11 January 2019, 09:18:03 PM »

Just to be different I ended up using Pendraken Scots ECW Pikemen because they had molded pikes attached  Wink 

Other manufacturers use open hands for their pikemen but the small size of the open hand means that I would have to faff around with gluing 200+ pikes which kind of put me off the other figures. Also I like the march/attack pose of the Pendraken pike men which gives the unit a more "aggressive" stance (I only used that pose) compared to the "stand still with my grounded pike" pose.   

FWIW all the pikemen in the newish Pendraken LOA range are open handed.

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« Reply #4 on: 12 January 2019, 01:05:12 AM »



FWIW all the pikemen in the newish Pendraken LOA range are open handed.



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« Reply #5 on: 12 January 2019, 02:29:08 AM »

I must admit the thought of gluing pikes to 10mm figures would put me off doing a pik army.  I accept that wire pikes liik better, but its moulded pikes all the time for me .
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« Reply #6 on: 12 January 2019, 09:18:06 AM »

For me, I have no problem with moulded pikes, my problem is with their length.  The Pendraken pikes are a scale 10-11ft long.  Even if cut down, as apparently happened, they should be 14-15ft long, and if not cut down, up to 18ft.  It is why I use AIM/Minifigs pikemen, even in units where the musketeers are Pendraken.  It would be brilliant to Pendraken pikemen with real pikes. If that is not possible for some technical reason, the. Open handed would be the next bets.
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« Reply #7 on: 12 January 2019, 10:45:55 AM »

From 'where I sit', I see this as VERY difficult choice for Leon to make.

I would guess that it's around a 50/50 split from those who prefer 'open hands' .....and you have to make your own  'poles'...and those that prefer already made pikes.
If Leon had unlimited funds...I'm sure he'd go for two variants, to please everyone.

Sadly not really viable......So who wins ??

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« Reply #8 on: 12 January 2019, 10:55:08 AM »

Lazy tho' I be, I think in the long run being able to attach sturdier pikes (and lances) that don't turn into noodles is preferable.
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« Reply #9 on: 12 January 2019, 05:55:47 PM »

I'd like to see the ECW pikemen packs done without pikes so i can add my own pikes - pretty please


I agree.  I cut all the 'telegraph poles' from my ECW, which are a bit too short anyway, and replaced them with brass rod.  Same thing with my Normans/Saxons and their lances/spears.  Not really a challenge as part of the general cleaning and prepping but it would be better to have 'open hands'.   
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« Reply #10 on: 12 January 2019, 08:26:35 PM »


I can fully see why some  want to replace Pikes/spears , but I have too big a lead/plastic/ resin mounting to glue on individual pikes or spears on 10mm figures, let alone cut off the ones already on the figure. I want to get my figures on the table not spend hours doing the pikes/spears.

But if your going to do this I guess open handed figures are best.
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« Reply #11 on: 12 January 2019, 08:32:14 PM »

I can live with either, but if you go for moulded on, just produce some which are the right length! 
 With open hands, everyone can make their own choice.
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« Reply #12 on: 13 January 2019, 02:09:57 AM »

I can fully see why some  want to replace Pikes/spears , but I have too big a lead/plastic/ resin mounting to glue on individual pikes or spears on 10mm figures, let alone cut off the ones already on the figure. I want to get my figures on the table not spend hours doing the pikes/spears.

But if your going to do this I guess open handed figures are best.

+1 Orcs....I am using the pike figures that I have as depicted as according to Stuart Reid's books, which I personally believe are largely correct, both the Irish Brigade and Covenanters seem to have preferred to use shortened pikes anyway.

OTOH I think that highlanders were a bit more effective than Reid gives them credit for in his ECW books.   
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« Reply #13 on: 13 January 2019, 04:35:09 AM »

Wouldn't a pikeman without a pike just be 'man'?  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: 13 January 2019, 07:52:23 AM »

Moulded on for me as it's one less thing to worry about or, even more frustrating, knocking off in a game.
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