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« on: 19 May 2017, 02:23:53 PM »

Since I'm extending into the Monmouth Rebellion and the War of the Two Kings, doing some actions around Tangier (Fall, 1680) becomes a real possibility.

I know nothing about the Moorish opposition force:
Are there painting guides for such?
Organizational and tactical guides?
Pendraken figures that would be good proxies?

My thanks to the collective wisdom and experience of the board!
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« Reply #1 on: 19 May 2017, 05:00:11 PM »

I'd guess the Renaissance Ottoamns are probably closest match? Maybe? I mean they're a hundred years out and three thousand miles away, but...
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« Reply #2 on: 19 May 2017, 05:21:45 PM »

Will look at the Fiekd Of Glory Renaissance lists later, I'm sure there is something there.
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« Reply #3 on: 19 May 2017, 05:27:09 PM »

Have a look at:

http://onelover-ray.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/broadside-2016-donnybrook-teviots-last.html

Ray's usually helpful.
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« Reply #4 on: 19 May 2017, 06:23:26 PM »

I was going to link Ray's blog as well SV52.
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« Reply #5 on: 19 May 2017, 06:44:57 PM »

I'd guess the Renaissance Ottoamns are probably closest match? Maybe? I mean they're a hundred years out and three thousand miles away, but...

And in a little more detail, the only figure range I can think of from Pendraken is the earlier Renaissance Ottoman one. That might make the comment a bit more useful & comprehensible!

http://pendraken.co.uk/renaissance/16th-c-ottoman-turk/
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« Reply #6 on: 19 May 2017, 07:28:18 PM »

Will look at the Fiekd Of Glory Renaissance lists later, I'm sure there is something there.

Think you fiekd up again there, Lemmey.

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« Reply #7 on: 19 May 2017, 08:30:34 PM »

Nupe, nuttin ring wid me spilling!
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« Reply #8 on: 20 May 2017, 06:22:45 AM »

Hello

In regard to Morrocan figures you can also mix in some Afghan figures from the Colonial NWF range, handy for arquebusiers and cavalry. Also look at some of the mahdist figures from the Sudan range.

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« Reply #9 on: 20 May 2017, 03:15:19 PM »

Gentlemen,
Thanks for the advice and references. Lots of good suggestions on figure proxies (although still working out costume and weapons)

GOM, the Mahdist and Afghan figures look very promising.

I have looked at Ray's blog before but missed the post on Teviots's last stand. While I want to do 1680 - the Moroccan forces would certainly look the same.

Have now also found an article by Pete Brown in December 2016 Wargames Illustrated on Tangier 1680 (with the usual WI eye candy).

I'm curious if anyone else has specific interest in the 20 year English andventure in Tangier?

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« Reply #10 on: 20 May 2017, 05:04:33 PM »

The Ancient Arab range would also supply some stuff I would have thought.

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« Reply #11 on: 20 May 2017, 06:04:29 PM »

Ian, thanks.

When I searched on "Arab" in the Catalog, it did not return individual "AB-" listings. It did return the AB-1, Army pack but I didn't notice it.
Yes, there are some likely figures in that range.

Looking a pictures from both Ray's blog and the WI article, there is a good deal of interpretive work. Typical Arab headdress predominates, however. The WI article states it is a using a Tuareg army - way out of my knowledge base, so lots of work to do (like I needed more stuff to get interested in!)
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« Reply #12 on: 23 May 2017, 06:55:45 AM »

Here is a period illustration of an Algerian soldier called a Turk, by Henri II Bonnart

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« Reply #13 on: 23 May 2017, 02:10:38 PM »


 Thanks Druzhina. The Algerian soldier may have too much of a Turkish influence in dress. Apparently at Tangier it is more Berber/Bedouin.
The link to you excellent link page (I've used it before for Scots and Irish stuff) had an extra http term in it - I fixed it in the quote above.

I went through the list quickly and didn't find anything on Morocco but will go through more carefully later. It is a truly valuable resource.

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« Reply #14 on: 23 May 2017, 02:31:23 PM »

Will look at the Field Of Glory Renaissance lists later, I'm sure there is something there.

That was a good Idea! I have FOG-R and the European supplements. I'll confess I'm totally baffled by the rules but they are great reference books and had not thought of them in quite awhile.

The Tangier garrison is covered in the "Duty and Glory" supplement but not their opponents. Did find some Arab and Moor listings in the "Colonies and Conquest" supplement and have a second-hand copy on the way.
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