Master list for the new Korean War range - Input required!

Started by Leon, 25 October 2016, 09:44:17 PM

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Which of these ranges would you be most likely to buy first?

American - Early war kit
11 (20.4%)
American - Later war kit
18 (33.3%)
British - Tropical kit
7 (13%)
British - Commandos
11 (20.4%)
British - Later war kit
21 (38.9%)
North Korean
32 (59.3%)
South Korean
12 (22.2%)
Chinese - Summer kit
12 (22.2%)
Chinese - Winter kit
25 (46.3%)

Total Members Voted: 54

Leon

Righty then folks, it's here!  There's been a load of interest in the Korean War for some time now, so with the help of Sunray we've put together a master list for everyone to have a look at.  We've also added a poll so that you can place your votes for which ranges you'd be most interested in buying. 

So, once you've had a read through, what we're looking for in terms of feedback is:

- Are there any specific uniform details, beyond what we've got listed?
- Do folks want any flamethrower figures?
- Any satchel charges for nations other than the Chinese?
- Any further heavy weapons / artillery pieces we need to add?
- There currently aren't any winter Chinese, as they can be proxied from the other nations.
- Does anyone want other command figures, standards / musicians, etc?
- We've got an idea of the few vehicles that need to be done, but feel free to list those as well.
- Any other general queries/requests?

Other than that, if anyone has any good pictures or weblinks for useful information, pop them up as well!  Phil will be starting work on these towards the end of this year and we're looking at around a 9-12 month sculpting schedule for the 100+ sculpts that need to be done.  Any vehicles will be done separately be Mart.


Korean War

American
In early war kit, M1 helmet, M1 rifle
2 x Advancing, with rifle
1 x Advancing, with BAR
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing carbine
1 x Standing, hip firing SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing BAR
1 x .30 Browning MG with separate loader
2 x Officers
1 x Radio Operator
1 x 81mm mortar with 2 crewmen
1 x M20 3.5 bazooka with separate loader
1 x Throwing grenade
1 x Casualty
1 x Head/shoulder tank commander sculpt in US helmet

In late war kit, trousers with pockets, fur caps, mix of flak and Parka jackets , M1 rifle
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing carbine
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
2 x Officers

British
In tropical shirts, long trousers and bush hats (right side folded up)
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x Bren MG, advancing
1 x Bren MG, prone firing
1 x HMG Vickers with separate loader
2 x Officers
1 x Radio Operator
1 x M20 3.5 bazooka with separate loader
1 x 4.2" mortar with 2 crewmen
1 x Throwing grenade
1 x Casualty

Commandos, In US kit and berets
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, hip firing SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x .30 Browning MG, firing on the move
2 x Officers (1 with map/binocs, 1 with SMG)
1 x M20 bazooka with separate loader
1 x Head/shoulder tank commander sculpt in beret

In cap comforters mainly, some berets, camo smocks or leather jerkins.
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x Advancing with sten
1 x Bren MG, firing
1 x M20 bazooka with separate loader
1 x HMG Vickers with separate loader
2 x Officers (one in beret, one in SD cap)


North Korea, KPA
In shirt, double breast pockets, caps generally but one or two Soviet helmets (not on officers)
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Advancing with DP LMG
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing SKS carbine
1 x Standing, firing PPSh M1941 SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing DP LMG
2 x Officers
1 x Radio Operator
1 x 120mm mortar with 2 crewmen
1 x Throwing grenade
1 x Casualty
1 x Head/shoulder tank commander sculpt in Soviet helmet

South Korea, ROK
In US kit, field caps, occasional US helmet here and there.
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing M1 carbine
1 x Standing, firing M3 SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
2 x Officers
1 x Radio Operator
1 x Throwing grenade
1 x With satchel charge
1 x Casualty

Chinese
In tunic and soft cap
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing Chinese 7.62mm Type 50 SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing rifle
1 x Prone, firing DP LMG
1 x Japanese Model 92 MG with separate loader
2 x Officers
1 x Bugler
1 x Radio Operator
1 x 80mm mortar with separate loader
1 x Throwing grenade
1 x Casualty

In winter weather gear
2 x Advancing with rifle
1 x Standing, firing rifle
1 x Standing, firing Chinese 7.62mm Type 50 SMG
1 x Kneeling, firing rifle
2 x Officers
1 x Throwing grenade
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GrumpyOldMan

Hello Leon

With the Chinese are you envisaging uniform like this (which can be easily transported back 20-30 years :) ):-



or only ones like this:-



Will I have to wait for my winter (uniform) of discontent :) to get warlord proxies?

Only other thing I can think of is maybe a Chinese/Korean bugler and/or standard bearer for local colour?



Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Rob

Lovely range, I will be getting these.

For completeness I thought:

American -  BAR advancing
British – 3" mortar
North Korea and Chinese – 82mm mortars, Bugles, advancing DP LMG

Cheers, Rob  :) :)

Leon

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 25 October 2016, 10:57:14 PM
With the Chinese are you envisaging uniform like this (which can be easily transported back 20-30 years :) ):-

I've added those to the list, so we'll have the winter kit as well.

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 25 October 2016, 10:57:14 PM
Only other thing I can think of is maybe a Chinese/Korean bugler and/or standard bearer for local colour?

I've added a bugler for the Chinese.

Quote from: Rob on 25 October 2016, 11:21:37 PM
American -  BAR advancing
British – 3" mortar
North Korea and Chinese – 82mm mortars, Bugles, advancing DP LMG

I've added the US BAR figure, plus the 82mm mortar and bugler for the Chinese.  The Koreans now have the DP LMG advancing and we'll have a think about the other mortars.
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Schlesien

I would hope to use the Summer Chinese for WWII through to Korean War!

Eric

fsn

Is a RCL needed? (Wanted - "yes"- but needed?")

Also my hazy recollection of Korean War memoires suggests that there were Chinese and/or North Korean units armed predominantly with the Burp gun. I am prepared to be wrong on that, but certainly, in my head I see waves of SMG and grenade toting Communists.

Could we have a little more variety in the Red SMGs?

(I may have mentioned on this forum my disdain for a) kneeling b) firing and c) prone figures, and would happily swap one of those for a "SMG - Advancing" figure.)




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But I wanted at least 4!  :'( :'(
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As for vehicles, I don't think there is a massive amount needed.

M75 and perhaps Oxford carrier. These, though are just icing. The bulk of Korean War vehicles are already covered or in the pipleine.

Unless you're of the "But on that particular Sunday there were 3 Mk17's with the square hatches deployed on a parade ground in Seoul which could possibly have got dirty if there had been a massive Communist attack a la Tet Offensive" brigade.
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This is a major commitment by Pendraken. An ambitious range of figures.  There are ones that excite me - the RoK in caps and light order have a limitless scope for painting up as Third World African/Latin American bush war figures. Even US WW2 rear echelon !  The KPA in summer gear are not far behind in terms of Soviet sphere applications.

41 Commando in US kit/weapons with berets ! Wow ! That meets a lot of early NATO requirements  until the 7.62 FN arrives. .
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A tour de force, Friend Sunray.

You are to be congratulated on your Autumn Push.

Now, while Pendraken are working on those, may I interest you in some chariot armies?  :P For truly it is written that the followers of the Dark Lord and an ungrateful lot, who are never satisfied.

This range does offer so much - a bridge between WWII and the Viet Nam/Falklands ranges.

Right Techno. Stuff them burks in the pyjamas with the stone tennis bats, get on with some proper work.

First pics by next Friday?
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