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« Reply #15 on: 11 April 2015, 11:22:30 AM »

Ouch... The dwarves aren't doing very well so far! If you tactic is "sit there and let them come on in the same old way" you'd better bring some good shooting Cheesy

Maybe Bloodax can even the score when his stunties arrive Wink

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« Reply #16 on: 11 April 2015, 12:27:22 PM »

Yeah, on paper the hill dwarves look impressive.

I think the mistakes have all been in tactics so far.  None of my group has figured out how to use the little hairy fellows yet (including me  Cheesy ).  It doesn't help that i've not yet painted the fun stuff like cannons and gyrocopters.  

Generally i think with Warband, a mixed army composition that give you mobility, shooting, melee, magic, and decent command is your start point - you then need to get your tactics right.

Perhaps the lack of hills demoralised the hill dwarves!

Watching the battle was really interesting.

Early on, the dwarf player played a blinder with the tactics around how to ensure the 'prize' was in his area and easy to defend.

But i think the goblin mobility, archery, magic, and ability to outflank and chew up the static dwarf line recovered the disadvantaged position.

The dwarves reliance on being a 'wall of iron' was their only tactic given the army build.  The player was trying something out (a solid line of warriors).  It didn't seem to work!   Grin

Good fun though, and the general comments from the players boiled down to, 'there are so many layers of tactical considerations, and decisions to make' in Warband, and that's what makes it fun.   Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: 11 April 2015, 12:32:07 PM »

Yeah, on paper the hill dwarves look impressive.

I think the mistakes have all been in tactics so far.  None of my group has figured out how to use the little hairy fellows yet (including me  Cheesy ).  It doesn't help that i've not yet painted the fun stuff like cannons and gyrocopters.  

Generally i think with Warband, a mixed army composition that give you mobility, shooting, melee, magic, and decent command is your start point - you then need to get your tactics right.

Perhaps the lack of hills demoralised the hill dwarves!

Watching the battle was really interesting.

Early on, the dwarf player played a blinder with the tactics around how to ensure the 'prize' was in his area and easy to defend.

But i think the goblin mobility, archery, magic, and ability to outflank and chew up the static dwarf line recovered the disadvantaged position.

The dwarves reliance on being a 'wall of iron' was their only tactic given the army build.  The player was trying something out (a solid line of warriors).  It didn't seem to work!   Grin

Good fun though, and the general comments from the players boiled down to, 'there are so many layers of tactical considerations, and decisions to make' in Warband, and that's what makes it fun.   Smiley

A big thank you to you for posting some great battle reports. Looking forward to more! THANKS!
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« Reply #18 on: 11 April 2015, 12:37:56 PM »

I'm really looking forwards to seeing your hill dwarves in action Bloodaxe.   Cheesy

Clearly i've not figured out how to use the army yet so hopefully you'll lead the way as the guru on dwarves tactics.   Wink Rock on!

What do you think we've been doing wrong with the dwarves?
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« Reply #19 on: 11 April 2015, 12:50:31 PM »

This game too static - you can't cover your flanks and resist the softening up, them the Gobboes crash into you at their choice of best odds - flank, out numbered, shot up. It's still a grid for them but they can throw the big hitters in where it counts whilst the rest of the dwarves get screened off and chewed up a bit. Then rinse, repeat until they break you...

Previous games were similar but the little movement the dwarves got jut made it worse - they got strung out first, the. Screened and shot up then concentrated on and ground down in detail.

I would guess... A mix of shooters and artillery backed with a solid core of warriors would be better for this - an something In reserve that's mobile enough to leap out and cover whichever flank te Gobboes come round? That way you can attrit the Gobboes on the way in and then take their charge on the warriors... Or more generally advance to somewhere useful whilst shootin up the enemy so your warriors can go in at favourable odds, screened or supported by the copters/ponie knights/rangers?

Otherwise with that "all warriors" you're setting yourself up as Harold G at Hastings...
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« Reply #20 on: 11 April 2015, 01:09:04 PM »

I'm agreeing with Toxicpixie. Protect your flanks. Possibly put stronger units there to protect your line. A mix of shooting & infantry. Shoot units that are going to possibly used as flankers. Make them a priority target. Advance in line, don't let units get isolated & unsupported.

Take this with a grain of salt, as I have not played a single game, I've only read 3 battles.  I think the Dwarves won one of them though!
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« Reply #21 on: 11 April 2015, 01:12:52 PM »

Otherwise with that "all warriors" you're setting yourself up as Harold G at Hastings...

 Cheesy

Great analogy toxicpixie!

I also agree with your assessments.  You need a flexible multi-capability force to achieve success in Warband.  'One trick ponies' seem to suffer.

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« Reply #22 on: 11 April 2015, 01:27:09 PM »

So maybe this is why Dear Dwarfs need Doggies! Wink
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« Reply #23 on: 11 April 2015, 02:56:54 PM »

I would like to see how an all shooting force would perform.
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« Reply #24 on: 11 April 2015, 04:21:46 PM »

I think the Dwarves won one of them though!

Indeed  Cheesy

If you are going wall of steel then Shieldwall is a must.
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« Reply #25 on: 11 April 2015, 04:56:41 PM »

Indeed  Cheesy

If you are going wall of steel then Shieldwall is a must.


http://www.slimreidy1.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/waaargh-time-as-green-skins-go-to-war.html

Did you win with Dwarves?  

The battle i was thinking of, the Dwarves lost that one too. Three reports Ive seen, three Dwarf losses.


Anyone win with dwarves yet?
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« Reply #26 on: 11 April 2015, 06:12:32 PM »


Anyone win with dwarves yet?


Just building up those grudges eh?   Grin
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« Reply #27 on: 12 April 2015, 04:30:21 AM »

Just building up those grudges eh?   Grin

Im learning.  Dont get flanked.
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« Reply #28 on: 12 April 2015, 07:52:25 AM »

Very nice figures, and exqusite narrated battle, a pleasure to read.

Specially like the look of the gnome (now I am thinking in buying a gnome army pack mmmmh)

I wonder why dwarves did not attack to goblins archers instead stay sitting in the line waiting to be break

Orks n goblins seems to be though in warband, great.

thanks for sharing the game

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« Reply #29 on: 12 April 2015, 06:44:04 PM »

Dwarves win here.

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/warband-orcs-vs-dwarves.html
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