polemos ACW

[getagrip]

Black Powder is specifically for C18/19th warfare, so covers ACW

They're rather a "toolset" of rules, as whilst you use the same framework for any period within them, the conflict specific flavour comes from the bucket of potential special rules and tweaks you can apply.

They're not to everyone's taste, but if you like the *Master series you'll probably like them, and certainly find them simple to pick up!

Thanks Nathan.

Do they have army lists?

Although I'm thinking these wouldn't be very detailed for ACW:

1)  Infantry....DONE!

[toxicpixie]

I assume so... it's a pretty popular conflict and they normally have a small "potted army list" section for each big one. I only own Pike & Shotte though so can't tell you for certain! I suspect they do as Warlord produce ACW figures so likely support them in the rules

Infantry - might be similar, although you'd tweak the stats up and down appropriately so particularly steady brigades might have an extra point of Stamina (take four hits not three to lose a base), or maybe a special rule to reroll a Cohesion test, different shooting dice/different ranges for muskets or rifled muskets or breech loaders etc.

There's a shedload of articles on the Warlords site tagged for ACW but I can't find any definitive "we have army lists ready made" on there, but I'd guess it does. Anyone with a copy that can tell us?

[Leman]

ACW Gamer, the Ezine for ACW gamers, issue 1. This contains a large ACW supplement for Black Powder called Crucible of Valor (sic). It is obtainable by issue through Wargame Vault.

[getagrip]

Thanks Nathan, great help.

[getagrip]

ACW Gamer, the Ezine for ACW gamers, issue 1. This contains a large ACW supplement for Black Powder called Crucible of Valor (sic). It is obtainable by issue through Wargame Vault.

Ooh, brilliant.

That's perfect Leman!

Thanks.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

BP are muttering about an ACW suppliment soon.

[getagrip]

BP are muttering about an ACW suppliment soon.

Think I'm going to build my own rules.  Thinking Warmaster with additional command points.

[WFGamer]

We still use F&F for ACW, but are playing some "Mit Blud und Eisen"/FFF for Europe/Crimea and it's good fun for big games. Think it's pitched similar level to BBB - manoeuvre units are Brigades, formations are Divisions and a player might easily push a Corps around in a short-ish evening.

Units in MBuE are usually brigades but can be divisions, for example in the ACW the units are usually divisions. I would guess BBB, I haven't seen the rules, is about the same scale but MBuE is a more detailed set, I think. Presumably this will mean that for the same battle MBuE will take longer/need more players but would feature more tactical play than BBB.

[petercooman]

Think I'm going to build my own rules.  Thinking Warmaster with additional command points.

http://www.nick101.f9.co.uk/rules/Docs/ACWarmaster.pdf

[getagrip]

http://www.nick101.f9.co.uk/rules/Docs/ACWarmaster.pdf

Damn I'm good, forgot I'd written that!



Thanks Peter

[petercooman]

 

[Leman]

Just as an aside, Black Powder, Hail Caesar and Pike and Shotte all developed out of Warmaster.

[getagrip]

Just as an aside, Black Powder, Hail Caesar and Pike and Shotte all developed out of Warmaster.

Black powder is okay for ACW isn't it?

[toxicpixie]

Yep - the book's got ACW scenarios and armies in, but there's no points system as I (after a bit of reading on t'web) understand it.

[getagrip]

Yep - the book's got ACW scenarios and armies in, but there's no points system as I (after a bit of reading on t'web) understand it.

Hmm, bit of a deal breaker for me!

Thanks anyway.