What happens ?....Scottish Independence.

Started by Techno, 10 June 2014, 08:13:56 AM

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Techno

So....If I've understood correctly, if Scotland votes for independence this September, it becomes independent in March of 2016. (I think that's right.)

Now.....As there's an election scheduled for the 'whole of' the UK in 2015.....What happens to all the Scottish seats in Westminster ?
Are these 'voided' from the 2015 UK election ?...Or do the prospective Scottish MPs get to sit in Westminster until Scotland becomes independent, and then 'kicked out' as their seats no longer represent part of the UK.
Are there other options ?
Anyone know ? :-\

Cheers - Phil


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Phil the only thing known is nothing - isn't this the "Mid-Lothian" question, and insoluble.

Only thing I do know is that if Wales tries for independence the "Free Flint" movement will appear, demanding annexation by England.

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"Free Flint" ? Sounds like a neolithic protest group  ;)

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Understandable when you consider the Flint accent sounds almost scouse.
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Ric

From a BBC interview about the white paper :

"Sovereignty will be fully exercised by the people of Scotland from the point Scotland becomes independent on 24 March 2016," it explained.

"Until that point, the people of Scotland must be represented politically at the UK level. Scotland will therefore elect MPs to Westminster to represent Scotland up until the date of independence."

So according to this it claims that we should keep seats in the house, but come 24th March Scottish seat holders will pretty much stand up and walk over the border...

Hertsblue

Quote from: Ric on 10 June 2014, 11:20:53 AM
From a BBC interview about the white paper :

"Sovereignty will be fully exercised by the people of Scotland from the point Scotland becomes independent on 24 March 2016," it explained.

"Until that point, the people of Scotland must be represented politically at the UK level. Scotland will therefore elect MPs to Westminster to represent Scotland up until the date of independence."

So according to this it claims that we should keep seats in the house, but come 24th March Scottish seat holders will pretty much stand up and walk over the border...

That should be a sight to see.
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DanJ

Quotebut come 24th March Scottish seat holders will pretty much stand up and walk over the border

Don't be silly, they'll go first class by train to Carlisle or Berwick upon Tweed and after that.....

Who cares, with the union in tatters and King Eric on his thrones it's every nation for itself  :(

Ithoriel

Quote from: DanJ on 10 June 2014, 12:02:28 PM
Don't be silly, they'll go first class by train to Carlisle or Berwick upon Tweed and after that.....

Who cares, with the union in tatters and King Eric on his thrones it's every nation for itself  :(

King Eric??

Personally I don't see independence happening as things stand, despite the Better Together campaign doing their damndest to alienate the Scottish voters and bring about independence!!
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Ric

Mark my words...if England win the world cup, we will be independent, haha! :p

Techno

Quote from: Ric on 10 June 2014, 11:20:53 AM
From a BBC interview about the white paper :
"Sovereignty will be fully exercised by the people of Scotland from the point Scotland becomes independent on 24 March 2016," it explained.
"Until that point, the people of Scotland must be represented politically at the UK level. Scotland will therefore elect MPs to Westminster to represent Scotland up until the date of independence."
So according to this it claims that we should keep seats in the house, but come 24th March Scottish seat holders will pretty much stand up and walk over the border...

Thanks Ric.... :)
So.....If we end up with some sort of coalition, or Government, in Westminster that depends on some of the MPs North of the border, we'll probably have another election in 2016 ?
Oh....the fun ! ;)

Quote from: Ithoriel on 10 June 2014, 12:07:24 PM
......., despite the Better Together campaign doing their damndest to alienate the Scottish voters and bring about independence!!

I'm so glad somebody else thinks that. ;)


Cheers - Phil


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10 June 2014, 12:56:38 PM #11 Last Edit: 10 June 2014, 12:58:17 PM by fsn
I predict
  2016, Scotland becomes independent
  2017 England votes under Prime Minister Farrage (or Cameron) to come out of Europe
   2018 Scotland still hasn't been accepted as a member of the EU so
   2020 The UK of GB and NI is reunited. 

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DanJ

QuoteKing Eric??

Eric, Alex.....

They all look the same to me  :-[

Now I think I need to go and lie down

Ithoriel

Quote from: DanJ on 10 June 2014, 03:15:33 PM
Eric, Alex.....

They all look the same to me  :-[

Now I think I need to go and lie down

See, that's the sort of comment pushing Scots towards independence :)

No certainty that Salmond would lead an independent Scotland, of course. It's likely he would but we would have to elect a Scottish government after independence was agreed. Who knows what new parties might arise or what old ones might appeal to an newly independent electorate.
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GordonY

Personally I think the "Better Together" campaign was a big mistake, wee fat Alec is doing his damndest to make sure the vote fails. On the other hand its definitly in the Tories favour to get rid of Scotland, there would never be another Labour government in Westminster.