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Title: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 11 October 2013, 08:21:30 PM
I need to get some buildings for my 10mm figures and I'm not sure what to get. I've heard 6mm looks good, but I'm not sure. The last thing I want is for my figures to look too big next to them. Any opinions are welcome. :)

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 October 2013, 08:37:33 PM
I prefer 10mm, but then I play an area as built up rather than individual buildings.
For a dense built up area, 6mm.
Timecast all the way.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Sandinista on 12 October 2013, 12:34:31 AM
I always go for 10mm, in scale with the figures. The visual spectacle of the table is important to me
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 October 2013, 01:14:53 AM
Yep, 10mm for me too.

I understand the appeal of 6mm but I just can't get past the feeling my troops are assaulting/ defending Wendy Houses  #-o
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 October 2013, 02:17:51 AM
6mm. I dislike having the available surface occupied by two houses and having to pretend that's Prague or Rome.  10mm cover too much space.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Zippee on 12 October 2013, 08:37:47 AM
I'll buck the trend  :D - I frequently use 15mm buildings, particularly the excellent 4Ground stuff (which seems slightly on the small side for 15mm to me) and what with bases and the compressed view of looking down seem to better fit with 10mm than they do with 15mm. . .  (I'm referring to the 15mm wooden buildings and FIW bits, not sure this applies to the European stuff)

I get the concept of using 6mm (and have huge amounts of lovely Timecast stuff) with 10mm or 15mm but for me the discrepancy is too much. If I was to use that sort of an approach the buildings would have to be very stylised and map like - maybe Monopoly pieces or similar but not aesthetically pleasing terrain models. Somehow it seems more of a disconnect to have out of proportion models on the table than it would to have a scale 2D plan - maybe it's just me.

I guess it's either an aesthetically crafted, mutually scaled eye-candy battlefield or it's an abstract battle map with 3D miniature counters.  :-\
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Steve J on 12 October 2013, 09:01:33 AM
6mm seems to work well for large Black Powder era battles in that you can nicely represent a town etc. However for more modern conflicts (ie SCW, WWII) it's definitely 10mm for me.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Shedman on 12 October 2013, 12:18:45 PM
Depends on the period and the scale

For 18th/19th century where 1 base = 1 battalion then 6mm

For 20th Century and skirmish then 10mm

Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 October 2013, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 12 October 2013, 01:14:53 AM
Yep, 10mm for me too.

I understand the appeal of 6mm but I just can't get past the feeling my troops are assaulting/ defending Wendy Houses  #-o

Yep, I second that.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Wulf on 12 October 2013, 03:01:13 PM
I'm using 10mm (paperterrain.com), but then again I'm primarily playing skirmish scale, with 1 figure=1 man, with my ancients I don't use buildings (maybe walls), but I can see myself using either 6mm to minimise the discrepancy in ground scale...
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: WeeWars on 12 October 2013, 08:57:11 PM
Small footprint, to-scale elevation.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 12 October 2013, 10:50:55 PM
Thanks for all the feedback. :)

I plan on buying terrain for my Late Romans so I don't suspect the need to have many so I'll most likely go with 10mm as that's seems to be the advice.

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Wulf on 12 October 2013, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Axebreaker on 12 October 2013, 10:50:55 PMI plan on buying terrain for my Late Romans so I don't suspect the need to have many so I'll most likely go with 10mm as that's seems to be the advice.
http://www.amdl.co.uk/7_images/large_roman_villa_sm03b-09.pdf
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Leman on 13 October 2013, 03:52:05 PM
I usually go with 6mm:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_0387_zps5f463b57.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 13 October 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Looks great Dour Puritan! 8)

Does anyway have some 10mm building with troops like Dour's to give a comparison?

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: mollinary on 13 October 2013, 04:51:42 PM
DP,

Great looking set up.  I also go for 6mm buildings with 10mm units for exactly the same reasons.  However, that said, I would agree that the closer you get to a 1:1 figure to man ratio, the stronger the argument becomes for the use of 10mm buildings.  At present my APW figures are at about 1:20.  For certain scenarios I may go to 1:10, and may then have to rethink the building scale.

Mollinary
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: fred. on 13 October 2013, 05:15:34 PM
With Horse and Musket armies 6mm buildings seem to look right - they are taller than the troops, and you can get a few in the right area for the troops.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Hertsblue on 14 October 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Yep, but most of these buildings were scratchbuilt.

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/VermicelliAssaulted.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Hertsblue on 14 October 2013, 09:26:22 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 14 October 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Yep, but most of these buildings were scratchbuilt.

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/VermicelliAssaulted.jpg)
Quote from: Axebreaker on 13 October 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Looks great Dour Puritan! 8)

Does anyway have some 10mm building with troops like Dour's to give a comparison?

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 14 October 2013, 10:05:30 AM
Super bit of scratch building Hertsblue! 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Hertsblue on 14 October 2013, 10:09:40 AM
Actually built by a mate of mine who is an architectural model-maker by profession. And it shows!

Ray
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 14 October 2013, 10:20:03 AM
Ahh.... still very nice built buildings by him. 8)

Christopher
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: WeeWars on 14 October 2013, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 14 October 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Yep, but most of these buildings were scratchbuilt.

Get's my vote. Great sense of scale. Good one, Ray!
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Leman on 14 October 2013, 04:41:11 PM
To come back on this - a town in SYW period seems to work best in 6mm (also use this scale for C19th as well). That said I use 10mm buildings with my Dux Britanniarum figures as there are generally fewer figures used in those games, even where three 10mm figures represent one 28mm figure.
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: tschuma on 16 October 2013, 04:55:35 PM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8172.0.html

Is the link to the Batrep for my Nachod game with Paperterrain 6mm buildings.  As per the many previous post, I think it depends on the scale of your game.  This was 1 stand equals 300 men and 1" equals 100 yards so 1 - 10mm building would have been huge. 

Tom
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Techno on 16 October 2013, 05:08:17 PM
Damn fine job by your mate, Ray !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: chalkie on 16 October 2013, 05:14:00 PM
I take it they are unit cards ? Like the idea of that, can you tell me what info is on them please ?
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Wulf on 16 October 2013, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: tschuma on 16 October 2013, 04:55:35 PM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8172.0.html

Is the link to the Batrep for my Nachod game with Paperterrain 6mm buildings. 
I have some of those buildings too - looks like you actually folded up the chimneys too! I must admit I gave up on that...  :-[
Title: Re: 6mm or 10mm buildings
Post by: Axebreaker on 16 October 2013, 10:15:53 PM
With my Late Romans I'll go with 10mm as I think it will work just right for that. If and when I do anything with horse and musket I think 6mm will be the right way to go.

Great looking board Tom! 8)

Christopher