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Title: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 08 October 2013, 04:17:30 PM
I made a simple video on how I paint 10 mils.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajFeVol586k
( http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/2013/10/08/from-bag-to-base-painting-pendraken-10mm-acw/)


The regiment is 8th New York State Militia “Washington Grays”
(http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/8th-NYSM-Washington-Grays.png) (http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/2013/10/08/8th-new-york-state-militia-washington-grays/)

I hope you find some of it interesting.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leon on 08 October 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Excellent!

 :-bd


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 08 October 2013, 05:59:10 PM
How good was that! Keep that going; it's looking fantastic. As I've said before, if I hadn't got into 15mm ACW about 20 0dd years ago I would certainly be going down the 10mm route.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 October 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Nice one


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: chalkie on 08 October 2013, 07:35:14 PM
Really good, enjoyed the vid.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 08 October 2013, 08:35:01 PM
Ditto !!
And it played without loads of pixels jumping all over the place...HUZZAH !!
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: fsn on 08 October 2013, 09:29:23 PM
As I've said before, if I hadn't got into 15mm ACW about 20 0dd years ago I would certainly be going down the 10mm route.

Never too late to change!


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: petercooman on 08 October 2013, 09:44:06 PM
Nice!!


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 09 October 2013, 08:55:30 AM
Never too late to change!

Saving my 10mm self for WWI and C19th Europe.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Rob on 09 October 2013, 10:33:34 AM
This is so good it ought to be a “sticky” so that we don’t lose it.  :)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 09 October 2013, 01:44:16 PM
I'll second that.
Great idea.
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:06:54 PM
This is so good it ought to be a “sticky” so that we don’t lose it.  :)
Thanks for the kind words :)


As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old, I had to find out a few techniques, over the past months, that enabled me to end up with  decent results in 10mm.
In sharing them I'm hoping that others might find a new trick or two.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 09 October 2013, 04:16:11 PM
As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old,

Aha !!....Just a young whipper-snapper then ! ;)
You deserve the praise Tobbe......Look better than 'decent' to me 'youth'. ;) :P
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 09 October 2013, 04:19:19 PM
Thanks for the kind words :)


As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old, I had to find out a few techniques, over the past months, that enabled me to end up with  decent results in 10mm.
In sharing them I'm hoping that others might find a new trick or two.

Good stuff..


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:43:30 PM
You deserve the praise Tobbe......Look better than 'decent' to me 'youth'. ;) :P
*grins* The white primer and black pre-wash thechnique does demand crisply sculpted figures with good detail to pick out. Look at how well it works with the new "rifle on the right shoulder" figs   :P


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: barbarian on 09 October 2013, 04:56:03 PM
You may want to speed it up by using a grey spray instead of the white. ;)


Title: Re:
Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 05:41:01 PM
You may want to speed it up by using a grey spray instead of the white. ;)
Or more black in the pre-wash if you want an effect more like the traditional black undercoat. The purpose of the wash is simply to pick out the details so I can see them :)

Though with acrylics not being fully opaque, the pre-wash does give rudimentary shading.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leon on 09 October 2013, 08:54:44 PM
This is so good it ought to be a “sticky” so that we don’t lose it.  :)

 :-bd

Done!


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Dickie255 on 10 October 2013, 06:20:43 AM
Excellent video! Well done to you for making it so enjoyable and interesting


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Jay Arnold on 06 December 2013, 04:46:41 AM
Well done, sir!  =D> =D> :-bd


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 December 2013, 09:01:06 AM
Excellent video, and some interesting techniques.  :-bd


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 06 December 2013, 10:18:13 AM
Cracking job.  8)

Like the "magic" dip.

Can you tell me where do you get the floor varnish and airbrush paint please?


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: PatG on 13 December 2013, 03:19:08 AM
Future floor polish and regular acrylic paint will work as well.

Nice bit of work there and great music.


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 18 December 2013, 11:48:40 AM
Can you tell me where do you get the floor varnish?

The floor varnish and what brand to buy has been debated a lot and you'll find some of the info with photos of the various products here http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
This Google search will give tips on how to use and mix https://www.google.se/search?q=magic%20wash%20clear%20painting%20miniatures


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 18 December 2013, 11:50:20 AM
regular acrylic paint will work as well.
Aye, it sure does. I choose to use airbrush paint since the pigments are even smaller in those. Inks or washes should work just as well as airbrush paint.


Nice bit of work there and great music.
Thanks :)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 18 December 2013, 05:34:53 PM
The floor varnish and what brand to buy has been debated a lot and you'll find some of the info with photos of the various products here http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
This Google search will give tips on how to use and mix https://www.google.se/search?q=magic%20wash%20clear%20painting%20miniatures

I thank you  ;)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: nikharwood on 10 January 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Nicely done Tobbe  8)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 02:08:53 PM
I use the pledge Klear from Sainsburys...does a similar job though I think the new stuff is slightly diiffernet from the old

This stuff

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1389363084933

For the first wash I use Vallejo black shade wash ..Personal choice but I find it works and gets in all the crevices


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 03:00:43 PM
I use the pledge Klear from Sainsburys...does a similar job though I think the new stuff is slightly diiffernet from the old

This stuff

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1389363084933

For the first wash I use Vallejo black shade wash ..Personal choice but I find it works and gets in all the crevices

Help me please... :'(

I can't find a single one of the products people list...none of them.

The link just goes to the Sainsbury's page Fenton :(


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 03:31:03 PM
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/household_cleaning/pledge_multisurface_wax_750ml.html

Or just type pledge into sainsburys search engine


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 05:50:16 PM
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/household_cleaning/pledge_multisurface_wax_750ml.html

Or just type pledge into sainsburys search engine

Thanks Fenton ;)

You really use this?  Wax???  Can you paint on top of it?


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:52:23 PM
I dont. I use it a replacement for Army painter..I use Vallejo quick shade black over grey to bring the details up ...I use the Klear stuff on larger 28mm models on 6 and 10mm I use W&N Nut Brown ink


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:53:05 PM
I was down in Sainsburys about an hour ago and looked at the bottle and its the same stuff as I have


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 05:53:56 PM
I dont. I use it a replacement for Army painter..I use Vallejo quick shade black over grey to bring the details up ...I use the Klear stuff on larger 28mm models on 6 and 10mm I use W&N Nut Brown ink

I've used AP on 10mm skellies; would pledge do the same?


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:55:48 PM
yeah should do but of course you make the mix to what ever strength you want or different colour..I use the Klear and Army Painter strong tone ink cos I'm a cheapskate


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 15 January 2014, 07:37:07 PM
Anyone using Army Painter dip should give this a go: works really well :-bd

Thanks again Steve ;)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 March 2014, 04:26:00 PM
I use B&Q's quick drying wood varnish in rosewood, about a fiver a tin and lasts for ages, gives good shading and cover. A good matt varnish across the top is needed though!


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 March 2014, 06:43:03 PM
I think Nik uses something similar :-\


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 March 2014, 07:04:22 PM
He might have inspiration, along with Tim of Madaxman fame! Works well, lasts ages, cheap as chips :)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: nikharwood on 26 July 2014, 09:35:01 PM
I think Nik uses something similar :-\

Yep - Wilko's Wood Stain. About £3 for a decent-sized tin...best diluted a bit.  :)


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 26 June 2018, 10:23:23 PM
What size were those bases?


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 05 November 2018, 09:56:16 PM
What size were those bases?

HCA-1 20 x 20mm

https://www.freewebs.com/pwsltd/steelbases.htm


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 May 2019, 01:55:55 PM
A question:

I've used Pledge as a dip / wash at the end of painting, but never as an undercoat.

Does it's glossy finish cause problems with applying acrylics to the figure?


Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 19 May 2019, 07:55:42 PM
My experience is no when I have used as a wash over white primer.