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Title: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 08 October 2013, 04:17:30 PM
I made a simple video on how I paint 10 mils.

( http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/2013/10/08/from-bag-to-base-painting-pendraken-10mm-acw/)


The regiment is 8th New York State Militia "Washington Grays"
(http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/8th-NYSM-Washington-Grays.png) (http://www.forward-to-richmond.com/2013/10/08/8th-new-york-state-militia-washington-grays/)

I hope you find some of it interesting.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leon on 08 October 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Excellent!

:-bd
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 08 October 2013, 05:59:10 PM
How good was that! Keep that going; it's looking fantastic. As I've said before, if I hadn't got into 15mm ACW about 20 0dd years ago I would certainly be going down the 10mm route.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 October 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Nice one
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: chalkie on 08 October 2013, 07:35:14 PM
Really good, enjoyed the vid.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 08 October 2013, 08:35:01 PM
Ditto !!
And it played without loads of pixels jumping all over the place...HUZZAH !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: fsn on 08 October 2013, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 08 October 2013, 05:59:10 PM
As I've said before, if I hadn't got into 15mm ACW about 20 0dd years ago I would certainly be going down the 10mm route.

Never too late to change!
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: petercooman on 08 October 2013, 09:44:06 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 09 October 2013, 08:55:30 AM
Quote from: fsn on 08 October 2013, 09:29:23 PM
Never too late to change!

Saving my 10mm self for WWI and C19th Europe.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Rob on 09 October 2013, 10:33:34 AM
This is so good it ought to be a "sticky" so that we don't lose it.  :)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 09 October 2013, 01:44:16 PM
I'll second that.
Great idea.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:06:54 PM
Quote from: Rob on 09 October 2013, 10:33:34 AM
This is so good it ought to be a "sticky" so that we don't lose it.  :)
Thanks for the kind words :)


As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old, I had to find out a few techniques, over the past months, that enabled me to end up with  decent results in 10mm.
In sharing them I'm hoping that others might find a new trick or two.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Techno on 09 October 2013, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:06:54 PM
As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old,

Aha !!....Just a young whipper-snapper then ! ;)
You deserve the praise Tobbe......Look better than 'decent' to me 'youth'. ;) :P
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 09 October 2013, 04:19:19 PM
Quote from: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:06:54 PM
Thanks for the kind words :)


As a sausage-fingered, rheumy-eyed, shaky-handed 50 year old, I had to find out a few techniques, over the past months, that enabled me to end up with  decent results in 10mm.
In sharing them I'm hoping that others might find a new trick or two.

Good stuff..
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: Techno on 09 October 2013, 04:16:11 PMYou deserve the praise Tobbe......Look better than 'decent' to me 'youth'. ;) :P
*grins* The white primer and black pre-wash thechnique does demand crisply sculpted figures with good detail to pick out. Look at how well it works with the new "rifle on the right shoulder" figs   :P
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: barbarian on 09 October 2013, 04:56:03 PM
You may want to speed it up by using a grey spray instead of the white. ;)
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Post by: Tobbe on 09 October 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: barbarian on 09 October 2013, 04:56:03 PM
You may want to speed it up by using a grey spray instead of the white. ;)
Or more black in the pre-wash if you want an effect more like the traditional black undercoat. The purpose of the wash is simply to pick out the details so I can see them :)

Though with acrylics not being fully opaque, the pre-wash does give rudimentary shading.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leon on 09 October 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: Rob on 09 October 2013, 10:33:34 AM
This is so good it ought to be a "sticky" so that we don't lose it.  :)

:-bd

Done!
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Dickie255 on 10 October 2013, 06:20:43 AM
Excellent video! Well done to you for making it so enjoyable and interesting
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Jay Arnold on 06 December 2013, 04:46:41 AM
Well done, sir!  =D> =D> :-bd
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 December 2013, 09:01:06 AM
Excellent video, and some interesting techniques.  :-bd
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 06 December 2013, 10:18:13 AM
Cracking job.  8)

Like the "magic" dip.

Can you tell me where do you get the floor varnish and airbrush paint please?
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: PatG on 13 December 2013, 03:19:08 AM
Future floor polish and regular acrylic paint will work as well.

Nice bit of work there and great music.
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 18 December 2013, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: get2grips on 06 December 2013, 10:18:13 AMCan you tell me where do you get the floor varnish?

The floor varnish and what brand to buy has been debated a lot and you'll find some of the info with photos of the various products here http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
This Google search will give tips on how to use and mix https://www.google.se/search?q=magic%20wash%20clear%20painting%20miniatures
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 18 December 2013, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: PatG on 13 December 2013, 03:19:08 AMregular acrylic paint will work as well.
Aye, it sure does. I choose to use airbrush paint since the pigments are even smaller in those. Inks or washes should work just as well as airbrush paint.


Quote from: PatG on 13 December 2013, 03:19:08 AMNice bit of work there and great music.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 18 December 2013, 05:34:53 PM
Quote from: Tobbe on 18 December 2013, 11:48:40 AM
The floor varnish and what brand to buy has been debated a lot and you'll find some of the info with photos of the various products here http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
This Google search will give tips on how to use and mix https://www.google.se/search?q=magic%20wash%20clear%20painting%20miniatures

I thank you  ;)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: nikharwood on 10 January 2014, 01:40:16 PM
Nicely done Tobbe  8)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 02:08:53 PM
I use the pledge Klear from Sainsburys...does a similar job though I think the new stuff is slightly diiffernet from the old

This stuff

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1389363084933

For the first wash I use Vallejo black shade wash ..Personal choice but I find it works and gets in all the crevices
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 03:00:43 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 02:08:53 PM
I use the pledge Klear from Sainsburys...does a similar job though I think the new stuff is slightly diiffernet from the old

This stuff

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1389363084933

For the first wash I use Vallejo black shade wash ..Personal choice but I find it works and gets in all the crevices

Help me please... :'(

I can't find a single one of the products people list...none of them.

The link just goes to the Sainsbury's page Fenton :(
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 03:31:03 PM
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/household_cleaning/pledge_multisurface_wax_750ml.html

Or just type pledge into sainsburys search engine
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 03:31:03 PM
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/sainsburys-price-comparison/household_cleaning/pledge_multisurface_wax_750ml.html

Or just type pledge into sainsburys search engine

Thanks Fenton ;)

You really use this?  Wax???  Can you paint on top of it?
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:52:23 PM
I dont. I use it a replacement for Army painter..I use Vallejo quick shade black over grey to bring the details up ...I use the Klear stuff on larger 28mm models on 6 and 10mm I use W&N Nut Brown ink
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:53:05 PM
I was down in Sainsburys about an hour ago and looked at the bottle and its the same stuff as I have
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 January 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:52:23 PM
I dont. I use it a replacement for Army painter..I use Vallejo quick shade black over grey to bring the details up ...I use the Klear stuff on larger 28mm models on 6 and 10mm I use W&N Nut Brown ink

I've used AP on 10mm skellies; would pledge do the same?
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Fenton on 10 January 2014, 05:55:48 PM
yeah should do but of course you make the mix to what ever strength you want or different colour..I use the Klear and Army Painter strong tone ink cos I'm a cheapskate
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 15 January 2014, 07:37:07 PM
Anyone using Army Painter dip should give this a go: works really well :-bd

Thanks again Steve ;)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 March 2014, 04:26:00 PM
I use B&Q's quick drying wood varnish in rosewood, about a fiver a tin and lasts for ages, gives good shading and cover. A good matt varnish across the top is needed though!
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: get2grips on 10 March 2014, 06:43:03 PM
I think Nik uses something similar :-\
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: toxicpixie on 10 March 2014, 07:04:22 PM
He might have inspiration, along with Tim of Madaxman fame! Works well, lasts ages, cheap as chips :)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: nikharwood on 26 July 2014, 09:35:01 PM
Quote from: get2grips on 10 March 2014, 06:43:03 PM
I think Nik uses something similar :-\

Yep - Wilko's Wood Stain. About £3 for a decent-sized tin...best diluted a bit.  :)
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 26 June 2018, 10:23:23 PM
What size were those bases?
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Tobbe on 05 November 2018, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: Itinerant Hobbyist on 26 June 2018, 10:23:23 PM
What size were those bases?

HCA-1 20 x 20mm

https://www.freewebs.com/pwsltd/steelbases.htm
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 May 2019, 01:55:55 PM
A question:

I've used Pledge as a dip / wash at the end of painting, but never as an undercoat.

Does it's glossy finish cause problems with applying acrylics to the figure?
Title: Re: From bag to base - Painting Pendraken 10mm ACW
Post by: Leman on 19 May 2019, 07:55:42 PM
My experience is no when I have used as a wash over white primer.