So here is a propossal for the range that I am pushing for.
William
French Infantry Figure Variants
FI10 Ligne in Tarleton 3 march attack
FI11 Elite in Tarleton 3 march attack
FI12 Command in Tarleton 3 officers, 1 flag, 1 drummer
FI13 Ligne Skirmishers in Tarleton 2 firing, 2 loading
FI14 Elite Skirmishers in Tarleton 2 firing, 2 loading
FI20 Ligne in Bicorne 3 march attack
FI21 Elite in Bicorne 3 march attack
FI22 Command in Bicorne 3 officers, 1 flag, 1 drummer
FI23 Ligne Skirmishers in Bicorne 2 firing, 2 loading
FI24 Elite Skirmishers in Bicorne 2 firing, 2 loading
FI30 Ligne in Forage Cap 2 march attack
FI31 Elite in Forage Cap 2 march attack
FI32 Line in forage cap skirmishing 2 firing, 2 loading
FI33 Elite in Forage cap skirmishing 2 firing, 2 loading
FI40 Elite in Bearskin 3 march attack
FI41 Command in Bearskin 2 officers, 1 drummer
FI42 Elite Skirmishers in Bearskin 2 firing, 2 loading
FI50 Legere in Mirliton 3 march attack
FI51 Legere Elite in Mirliton 3 march attack
FI52 Legere Command in Mirliton 3 officers (in bicornes), 1 flag, 1 drummer
FI53 Legere Skirmishers in Mirliton 2 firing, 2 loading
FI54 Legere Elite Skirmishersin Mirliton 2 firing, 2 loading
FI60 Legere in Shako 3 march attack
FI61 Legere Elite in Shako 3 march attack
FI62 Legere Command in Shako 3 officers (in bicornes), 1 flag, 1 drummer
FI63 Legere Skirmishers in Shako 2 firing, 2 loading
FI64 Legere Elite Skirmishersin Shako 2 firing, 2 loading
FI61 Legere Elite in Colback 3 march attack
FI64 Legere Elite Skirmishersin Colback 2 firing, 2 loading
FI55 Ragged in various /vendee march attack from all above and civ hats
FI56 Ragged in various Skirmishing.
3 march attack poses
3 march attack elite (just add epuletts and sword)
4 firing poses
4 firing poses elite (just add epuletts and sword)
4 officers poses
2 drummers
4 flag bears
Heads
Bicorn fore and aft
Bicorn en battle
Rev helmet
Forge cap
Bearskin
Colback
Shako side plume
Mirlitron
Each officer has various added, back pack, valise etc.
Each master with different canteen. Add cantten same time as add heads!
One pack of ragged, civilian clothes in March attack and firing and loading. Vendee
Take one of the completed sets and add all sorts of misc on the figs, bread. Also make marker figs so a couple running away, some wonded, some helping wounded some dead.
Austrian Infantry Figure Variants (58)
AI10 German Fusiliers in Casquet 3 march attack
AI11 German Command in Casquet 3 officers (in bicornes), 1 flag, 1 drummer
AI12 German Skirmishers in Casquet 2 firing, 2 loading
AI20 Hungarian Fusiliers / Grenz in Casquet 3 march attack
AI21 Hungarian Command in Casquet 3 officers (in bicornes), 1 flag, 1 drummer
AI22 Hungarian Skirmishers in Casquet 2 firing, 2 loading
AI30 German Grenadiers in Bearskin 3 march attack
AI31 German Command in Bearskin 2 officers, 1 flag, 1 drummer
AI32 German Grenadiers skirmishing 2 firing 2 loading
AI40 Hungarian Grenadiers in Bearskin 3 march attack
AI41 Hungarian Command in Bearskin 2 officers, 1 flag, 1 drummer
AI50 Jaegers in Corsehut 3 march attack
AI51 Jaeger Command in Corsehut 2 officers, 1 drummer
AI52 Jaeger Skirmishers in Corsehut 2 firing, 2 loading
AI60 Grenz in Klobuk 3 march attack
AI61 Grenz Command in Klobuk 2 officers, 1 drummer
AI62 Grenz Skirmishers in Klobuk 2 firing, 2 loading
Foot command pack consisting of various commanders Brigade and higher, at least 10 different officers.. Diorama ideas.
Also make marker figs so a couple running away, some wounded, some helping wounded some dead.
3 march attack
3 march attack Hungarian
4 firing
4 firing Hungarian
3 march attack grenadiers
3 march attack grenadiers Hungarian
4 officers poses
2 drummers
4 flag bears
Heads
Casquet
Bearskin
Corsehut
Klobuk
Same uniform but has belt so cannot be used for later uniforms line + grenadiers the same.
Piedmontese Infantry Figure Variants
Prussian 1806 uniform
PI10 Fusiliers 3 march attack
PI11 Fusiliers firing 2 firing, 2 loading
PI12 Command 2 officers, 1 flag, 1 drummer
Grenadiers Use Austrian figures
These can be complete enough to be Prussians. So various officers etc.
3 March attack
4 firing
4 officers
2 drummers
4 standard
Mounted officers and foot officers Brigadiers etc.
French Cavalry Figure Variants
FC10 Chasseurs in Tarleton 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
FC11 Chasseurs in Mirliton 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
FC12 Hussars in Pelise, Mirliton 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
FC13 Dragoons in Helmet 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
FC14 Cavalrie in Bicorne 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
FC20 Chasseurs in Tarleton 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
FC21 Chasseurs in Mirliton 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
FC22 Hussars in Pelise, Mirliton 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
FC23 Dragoons in Helmet 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
FC24 Cavalrie in Bicorne 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
FC30 Skirmishing Chasseurs in Tarleton 2 firing, 2 loading
FC31 Skirmishing Chasseurs / Hussars in Mirliton 2 firing, 2 loading
FC32 Skirmishing Dragoons 2 firing, 2 loading
FC40 Dismounted Chasseurs in Tarleton 2 firing, 2 loading
FC41 Dismounted Chasseurs / Hussars in Mirliton 2 firing, 2 loading
FC42 Dismounted Dragoons 2 firing, 2 loading
Cav on Foot skirmishing firing, loading, priming, and officers
Dead and woundedfrom each type of cav. At least 4 for each.
Dead Horses
Chasseurs uniform trooper 2 sitting
Chasseurs uniform trooper charging 4
Chassuers officers sitting 2 charging 4
Chasseurs bugler 2 sitting 2 charging
Chasseurs firing from sadel 4
Dismounted Chasseurs firing 4 variations
Hussar uniform trooper 2 sitting
Hussar uniform trooper charging 4
Hussar officers sitting 2 charging 4
Hussar bugler 2 sitting 2 charging
Hussar firing from sadel 4
Dismounted Hussar firing 4 variations
Dragoon uniform trooper 2 sitting
Dragoon uniform trooper charging 4
Dragoon officers sitting 2 charging 4
Dragoon bugler 2 sitting 2 charging
Dragoon firing from sadel 4
Dismounted dragoon firing 4 variations
Cavalry uniform trooper 2 sitting
Cavalry uniform trooper charging 4
Cavalry officers sitting 2 charging 4
Cavalry bugler 2 sitting 2 charging
Heads
Mirlitron
Shako side plume
Shako front plume
Dragoons
Bicorn
Officers
Horses saddle cloth added. With or with out figure this is question for caster.
Horses Masters
4 Standing light horses
4 Charging light Horses
4 Standing heavy horses
4 charging heavy horses
6 officer horses
4 dead horses
Austrian Cavalry Figure Variants
AC10 Chevaulegers in Casquet 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
AC11 Hussars in Pelise, Cylindrical Shako? 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
AC12 Dragoons in Bicorne 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
AC13 Cuirassiers in Bicorne 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
AC14 Uhlans in Czapska 4 troopers, officer, bugler (charging)
AC20 Chevaulegers in Casquet 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
AC21 Hussars in Pelise, Cylindrical Shako? 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
AC22 Dragoons in Bicorne 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
AC23 Cuirassiers in Bicorne 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
AC24 Uhlans in Czapska 2 troopers, officer, bugler (at rest)
AC30 Skirmishing Chevaulegers in Casquet 2 firing, 2 loading
AC31 Skirmishing Hussars in Cylindrical Shako? 2 firing, 2 loading
AC32 Skirmishing Dragoons in Bicorne 2 firing, 2 loading
AC30 Dismounted Chevaulegers in Casquet 2 firing, 2 loading
AC31 Dismounted Hussars in Cylindrical Shako? 2 firing, 2 loading
AC32 Dismounted Dragoons in Bicorne 2 firing, 2 loading
Light cav skirmishing Hussars firing from the saddle, one firing, one loading, one priming.
Light Cav on Foot skirmishing firing, loading, priming.
Piedmontese Cavalry
Use Austrian figures
French Artillerists Figure Variants
FA10 Foot Artillery in Bicorne/ tarleton/forge cap 6 poses (loading)
FA11 Foot Artillery in Bicorne/ tarleton/forge cap 6 poses (firing)
FA12 Foot Artillery in Bicorne/ tarleton/forge cap 6 poses (Running gun up)
FA20 Horse Artillery in Tarleton 6 poses (loading)
FA21 Horse Artillery in Tarleton 6 poses (firing)
FA22 Horse Artillery in Tarleton 6 poses (Running gun up)
FA30 Horse Artillery in Mirliton 6 poses (loading)
FA31 Horse Artillery in Mirliton 6 poses (firing)
FA32 Horse Artillery in Mirliton 6 poses (Running gun up
French Artillery Equipment
FE1 4 pdr Cannon
FE2 8 pdr Cannon
FE3 12 pdr Cannon
FE4 6 inch Howitzer
FE5 Limber, 4-6 horses, Civilian Drivers
FE6 Caisson, 4-6 horses, Civilian Drivers
Austrian Artillerists Figure Variants (12 or 24)
AA10 Artillerists in Hat 6 poses (loading)
AA11 Artillerists in Hat 6 poses (firing)
AA12 Artillerists in Hat 6 poses (Running gun up))
AA20 Artillerists in Corsehut 6 poses (loading)
AA21 Artillerists in Corsehut 6 poses (firing)
AA22 Artillerists in Corsehut 6 poses (Running gun up))
Handlanger infantry helper
Austrian Artillery Equipment
AE1 3 pdr Cannon
AE2 6 pdr Foot Cannon
AE3 6 pdr Cavalry Cannon
AE4 12 pdr Cannon
AE5 6 inch Howitzer
AE6 Limber, 4-6 horses, Civilian Drivers
AE7 Limber, 3 horses, for Cavalry Cannon
AE8 Caisson, 4-6 horses, Civilian Drivers
Piedmontese Artillerists
Use Austrian figures
Piedmontese Artillery Equipment
Use Austrian models
Mounted Commanders
FG1 French Generals (10)
FG2 French Regimental Officers and ADC's (10)
AG1 Austrian Generals (10)
AG2 Austrian Regimental Officers and ADC's (10)
10 commanders on foot.
10 Division commanders
5 Higher command
Casualties and Markers
casualties, routers, wrecked artillery, downed horses, etc. (6 total?)
Neither line in Tarleton nor line in forage cap are an issue for 1796 - 1797 - most infantry did wear the hat, light infantry including.
The forage cap was worn only sporadically and the Tarleton or casque was fading out.
The casque would be nice for 1792 to 1794 though - but not essential for the Italian campaign
The Rovatti collection (showing French in Italy) give all light infantry hats.
In my view the mirliton and or shako comes up later - more likley for the second Italian campaign.
Bicornes were worn for and aft, othterwise you cannot shoulder the musket.
For the cavalry I would like to see standard bearers as well.
Hi von Winterfeldt
I agee with most of your comments however the varity would be so that the range can capture both earlier and even all the way up to 1806, the only real issue for the French is lenght of coat but not really an issue in 10mm. This should all be easily done with head swaps during the modeling phase. So make the masters with out heads, make heads separtly and then put together to make a huge varity of head gear to capture the really varied look of the Early French.
Bicornes where worn mostly for and aft as you say but there are numerous illustrations of the bicorn side to side and yes you can shoulder the musket with it that way. But again this would allow a varity of figs to give the French that truly ragged look.
If you are refering to the Casque for the Austrians then yes that is what they used for the most part the helmet not coming into use until I think 1799-1800. Again this allows the Austrians to cover the 1792-96 period allowing the range to cover all of the early period.
The Mirltion and shako where used by light infantry during the 1796-97 period but again this would allow the range to cover more of the light infantry for the latter period.
Not so sure on the standard bears for the cav as I feel that it was the same as the light infantry in that they would usually did not carry them into the field, but sure why not.
As to the forge cap yes it was worn but as you say not a lot but again allows more varity of the range for that truly ragged French Look.
William
As for bicornes for and aft - in contrast to side to side - I feel most illustrators and also sculptors cheat, they put on the hat first and then manage to get the musket behind it.
However the musket had to be shouldered - brought into positions of loading sequences and so on and you would just flip off your hat.
For fun - I converted a Perrys 1815 fusilier into a Rpublican one.
as for standard bearers - I am not sure for the Revolution, there wasn't Napoleon's paranoia to loose eagles.
But you might be right for light cavalry on the French side - there also the French light Infantry did not carry colours in the 1796 / 97 campaign.
For the line cavalry and dragoons however standards should be carried
in case I refer to the casque i mean the Tarleton, for the Austrians the Kasket was the usual general headgear in 1796 / 97
Love those conversions. Can you now reduce those down to 10mm ;)
I can see that you too are an enthusiast for the Rev wars. I think there is a vast amount of intresting combats on both sides of the Alpes in 1796-97 and this range will open those up to us.
Thanks for the Support
William
Leon
If the Range gets going I have made pdfs with paintings and illustrations of all the unifrom details including things like all the French Head gear, poses etc. Just let me know.
William
I agree - nicer uniforms, better generals, more interesting combats than in 1804 - 1815 ;)
For me it was the real equality between the forces, the French dominate in Italy but that is Nappy but in Germany there is an ebb and flow to the wins and loses. After the camp of Boulgne no one can really stop the French until the attrition of combat catches up to them 1809!
William
The French did not dominate Italy ;) - in 1799 they had a hard stand - of course Bonaparte was elsewhere.
The scope of a Revolutionary range is almost endless, from the Pyrenees to Egypt, from the plains in Italy the the High Alps of 1799 (Lecourbe), good armies - good commanders - nice uniforms - very interesting campaigns.
Quick question, where have the code numbers come from for all those options?
The code numbers are from the lists I drew up, largely for talks with Dave and then Gareth over the years. So don't worry that they refer to anything like other ranges, etc. - they are just my way of organizing things so we had a common point of reference. The list William posted is probably the most comprehensive of the versions. As vW noted, the lists can be considerably focused by temporarily leaving out "earlier" and "later" French uniform variants and looking at the number of poses, and concentrating on getting a workable range for the 1796/97 campaign as a starting point and then adding on the other extras.
Gareth probably still has all my notes from our various conversations, but if you have any organizational questions feel free to ask.
Cheers,
Christopher
Ah, I was just curious as the codes were out of sync. Fair enough, I prefer to work in codes myself, I find it easier to weight up the size of potential ranges that way.