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Title: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 12 March 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Hi all,

Been working on these for a few days and hope to get them all based by friday so i can get back on my AWI 10s, not that i,m hooked on them   :D but am looking forward to my next lot arriving soon. Will put a pic of the finished army on if anyones interested.

cheers

kev

(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/4220/baccusnew1027.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/1337/baccusnew1028.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img407/6640/baccusnew1030.jpg)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 12 March 2013, 08:50:05 PM
Nice!!

Baccus?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Techno on 12 March 2013, 08:58:37 PM
 8) :-bd

Good job Kev !!
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 12 March 2013, 09:11:31 PM
Yes peter, baccus, i bought a box of Austrians a few years ago off ebay and almost all the cav were french so deciced to get the inf and arty to make the army up.
Thanks Techno.

kev


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Edmund2011 on 12 March 2013, 09:14:58 PM
Very nice and well painted!!


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 12 March 2013, 10:11:09 PM
I'm always put of Baccus by the horses, I really dont like my Cuirassiers being mounted on Shetland ponies.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 12 March 2013, 10:16:07 PM
I'm always put of Baccus by the horses, I really dont like my Cuirassiers being mounted on Shetland ponies.

Aha so i'm not the only one!!  :D


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 13 March 2013, 05:55:46 AM
 ;D ;D yes your right chaps, bit on the small side.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Steve J on 13 March 2013, 08:00:27 AM
They should look good massed together on the battlefield 8).


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: mad lemmey on 13 March 2013, 09:03:13 AM
Holy Tamoly! Those look really cool. Which paints are you using?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Hertsblue on 13 March 2013, 10:43:22 AM
I'm always put of Baccus by the horses, I really dont like my Cuirassiers being mounted on Shetland ponies.

They do look a bit top-heavy. Reminds me of the old Mike's Models 15s of yesteryear. However, they're beautifully painted and should look good on the table.  8)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: nikharwood on 13 March 2013, 02:10:38 PM
I'm always put of Baccus by the horses, I really dont like my Cuirassiers being mounted on Shetland ponies.

Yep - that, and that they're all the wrong size anyway  ;) :P :d

Nicely painted though  :)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: mollinary on 13 March 2013, 03:37:42 PM
The French are one of their older ranges, and due for a make over shortly.  The new British, Russian and Austrian ranges have, in my opinion, a much improved set of horses.

Mollinary


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 13 March 2013, 04:38:43 PM
Still not a patch on the Adler cavalry though, those are simply the best 6mm I've ever seen.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: DaveL on 13 March 2013, 04:44:36 PM
Lovely paint job.

 Don't really like Bacchus_-although some of their figures are nice.  Have seen some of their figures nicely painted on their stall at shows but think they spoil them by having such thick bases.

My friend Chad has given me some of those 3mm (yes - THREE) French cuirassiers.  Now there's a painting challenge!

Best wishes    DaveL


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 13 March 2013, 05:09:14 PM
cheers for the comments chaps, yes i prefer the adlers, much better proportions but these are nice to paint up. should be all based by friday so will put a full army pic up.
Back on 10s at the weekend. Here,s some adlers i did a while ago. I mostly use valejco paints, sorry for the spelling.

kev

(http://imageshack.us/a/img717/9516/frenchcomp2014.jpg)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 13 March 2013, 07:55:57 PM
Very nice!!!

Do the adlers come in strips? Or do you have to cut them off to align them right?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 13 March 2013, 08:43:30 PM
You have to cut them up and base them individually. :(


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 13 March 2013, 09:27:37 PM
You have to cut them up and base them individually. :(

Bugger...

I'll be going 10 mm anyway i think, my eyes have enough problems with that  :P


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: BH62 on 14 March 2013, 05:37:25 PM
Congratulation Kev, an enormous work which allows with 6mm to make a very interesting mass effect. How long you put to realize this army ?
BH62


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Techno on 14 March 2013, 05:41:36 PM
That looks absolutely BELTING Kev !
Love it !!
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 14 March 2013, 08:10:28 PM
cheers chaps, on and off about 3 weeks for these. I have to limit my painting time to about 5 hours over the day to preserve my eyes and back nowdays  ;D
I normally turn an equivelant  baccus one around in a week and a half as not so much cutting when basing. Will have a baccus one finished tomorrow so will put pics on over the weekend.

Thanks,

kev




Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 14 March 2013, 09:57:31 PM

I normally turn an equivelant  baccus one around in a week and a half as not so much cutting when basing.



 :-X :-X :-X :-X ??? ??? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Why am i so slow!!!!!


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 15 March 2013, 05:43:37 AM
probably because you dont use the 3 foot rule, only paint on the details that you'll see at 3 feet away, and to be honest in 10mm thats not a lot, in 6mm its even less.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: mollinary on 15 March 2013, 06:38:40 AM
Possibly Gordon, but Kev paints red grenades on the turnbacks of his 6mm French Grenadiers!! :o :o :o :o

Mollinary


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Hertsblue on 15 March 2013, 08:35:22 AM
Smashing little army, Kev. Got any more pics?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 15 March 2013, 08:49:41 AM
probably because you dont use the 3 foot rule, only paint on the details that you'll see at 3 feet away, and to be honest in 10mm thats not a lot, in 6mm its even less.

That's not true though, i paint on basic colours and shade /highlight / wash. What i don't tolerate is mistakes, so every one gets fixed. That's where most time goes in. (i don't have a steady hand like i used to  :P )

If you look at my acw units, you'll see what i mean. Nothing over te top, but still took me days to finish, with about 3-4 hours a day.

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7080.0.html


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 15 March 2013, 10:11:41 AM
Thanks chaps, here,s a couple more Hertsblue. As 6mils my day job  and i dont want to break any rules  i,ll pm or mail you my site address so you can look through my imageshack pics.

kev

(http://imageshack.us/a/img685/5754/frenchnewest008.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img835/7979/frenchnewest012.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img233/5733/frenchcomp2016.jpg)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 15 March 2013, 11:00:34 AM
Please do share the adress :p


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 15 March 2013, 11:14:00 AM
in your inbox peter,

kev


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: SV52 on 15 March 2013, 01:07:56 PM
I'm not easily impressed but man, I'm impressed by that lot =D>


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Matt J on 15 March 2013, 06:36:22 PM
Really really good kev it looks like you black undercoat then base colour and highlight?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: petercooman on 15 March 2013, 07:24:54 PM
Thanks!!
STunning stuff!


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 15 March 2013, 08:17:27 PM
Thanks Matt, yes always black undercoat on 6s and now also 10s, i always leave a black line on 6s or leave the base coat colour showing near the different bits ( jacket to trouser etc)and paint the highlight just away from that as it makes the colours stand out more at a distance and you dont get that all colour running into each other  look, if that makes sense, although i,m sure your well aware of that looking at your quality of work.

Thanks peter
cheers
kev


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Matt J on 16 March 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Thanks for the info kev. I'm relatively new to this (other than a bit of gw as a kid what you see in my painting diary is all I have) so I'm looking at the best way of doing things particular turning out armies at good quality at a good pace. The technique you ve used is really effective, I undercoat white but seriously thinking about changing. Also basing is very good (something I struggle with) so might copy your style a bit there makes the figures pop  :D


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 16 March 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Matt try using this for undercoating

http://www.minibits.net/VAL73602-p808/

I used to swear by Tamiya XF1 but I've made the switch to this stuff and can only describe myself as one contented rabbit.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Matt J on 16 March 2013, 04:34:27 PM
Thanks gordon, does it come as a spray?


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Leon on 16 March 2013, 06:16:15 PM
Thanks gordon, does it come as a spray?

Vallejo do have some sprays, but I've not started stocking them as yet.  The two things putting me off are firstly the cost (they retail at about 11-12, seems a bit pricey for a spray), and they also can't be shipped outside the UK.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: GordonY on 16 March 2013, 10:32:49 PM
nope its not a spray but it can be used neat in an airbrush, or if youre like me (a cheapskate) just plastered on with a big brush.

One thing about it is its self-levelling, yeah that confused me as well, but it seems to be like artists Gesso, no matter how much you slap on it all evaporates and doesnt block up any of the detail.

In short, try it, you'll love it, whats to lose? Its only a fiver, I pay that for a size 3 brush.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: ryman1 on 19 March 2013, 08:52:10 AM
Kev, that last pic is brilliant, I've always had a softspot for French napoleonics, the only thing that puts me off (ironically, as I love variety) is the research needed to fully understand how the army is put together - pom poms, plumes, epaulettes etc seem to change with every company.

Definitely a project in the far future once I've got a grasp of it.

Thanks for sharing. :)


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: kev1964 on 19 March 2013, 01:52:14 PM
Cheers Ry,

I have a couple of funcken and a waterloo armies book that covers most things, anything else i use the net. A nice period to do if you like lots of colour.


Title: Re: French napoleonic army
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 March 2013, 09:15:51 AM
Kev, that last pic is brilliant, I've always had a softspot for French napoleonics, the only thing that puts me off (ironically, as I love variety) is the research needed to fully understand how the army is put together - pom poms, plumes, epaulettes etc seem to change with every company.

Definitely a project in the far future once I've got a grasp of it.

Thanks for sharing. :)

Ry, much of what was worn by the French army was dictated by a) what was available and b) what the colonel of the regiment thought looked cool. So, within reason, you can paint what you like. Grenadier plumes, cords, epaulets etc were always red; voltigeur colours were red over yellow or green over yellow; and the fusiliers' pom-poms were a different colour for each company. Don't let it put you off.  :-bd