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Title: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Leon on 12 February 2013, 03:23:22 PM
In an ideal world, the whole wargaming community would be sat chucking dice at tables full of 10mm goodness, but of course we all like a bit of variety in our lives!  So if you're working on something different, feel free to pop it in this board for everyone to look at. 

A note though, whilst we all like looking at pics and WIP's, this isn't an advertising site, so anything which is deemed to be a bit 'spammy' will be deleted by the Admin team. 

 8)


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Matt J on 12 February 2013, 03:45:07 PM
you should get a job with the UN  ;)


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: mad lemmey on 12 February 2013, 04:05:20 PM
A sensible and level headed approach Leon. Thank you.

Now EVERYONE can see all the other C**P I'm painting...


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Leon on 12 February 2013, 04:30:36 PM
you should get a job with the UN  ;)

 8)

Now EVERYONE can see all the other C**P I'm painting...

 ;D



Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: GordonY on 12 February 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Lemmey if your painting is anything like mine its not something that you want ANYONE else to see. 10mm I can just about get looking respectable if you squint at it from 3 feet away, "yeah its big and green, must be a Russian tank" kinda detail.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: mad lemmey on 12 February 2013, 08:56:34 PM
At the moment it would be the seventeen buildings I did for a mate and the repaint after the paint cracked and lifted!  :'(


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: GordonY on 12 February 2013, 09:05:22 PM
OUCH!!!

I can lend you a scraper.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: mad lemmey on 12 February 2013, 09:21:15 PM
Think these might get put through the dishwasher before I start again...


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: petercooman on 12 February 2013, 10:15:45 PM
Lemmey if your painting is anything like mine its not something that you want ANYONE else to see. 10mm I can just about get looking respectable if you squint at it from 3 feet away, "yeah its big and green, must be a Russian tank" kinda detail.

You can still identify your stuff as tanks  :o :o :o

You are my new hero!

 :D ;D =O


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Nigelemsen on 17 February 2013, 08:24:24 AM
Thats alright Will, i'll distract them with my  15mm 1690 FOGR League of Ausburg French... :) Inking heaven here I come...


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: mad lemmey on 17 February 2013, 09:46:34 AM
Nice one Nigel!  ;D


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Orcs on 10 December 2013, 09:12:33 PM
Think these might get put through the dishwasher before I start again...

Does resin survive the dishwasher then?   The Dystopian wars stuff has some very stromh release agant on it and its a complete B*gger to get it off so the paint sticks



Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 March 2015, 02:20:49 AM
My wife has a painting project for me - 1:1 scale Dining Room and Hallway (It turns out unlike acrylics, emulsion has a low constitution and gets 'tired' after  3 years or so.  Our stuff must feel like it's finished a triathlon...)


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: getagrip on 31 March 2015, 09:55:46 AM
AH well, commiserations Hussar. :(

My wife only works one day a week so she does all the house painting which, to be quite frank, I bloody hate! >:(


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: ErHo on 08 January 2018, 10:06:48 PM
My wife has a painting project for me - 1:1 scale Dining Room and Hallway (It turns out unlike acrylics, emulsion has a low constitution and gets 'tired' after  3 years or so.  Our stuff must feel like it's finished a triathlon...)

You should try a brush larger than '000' size to speed up the process.

I'd talk her into throwing up sand and PVA texture, then it would be pretty fun dry brushing the house!


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Norm on 09 January 2018, 06:30:58 AM
I am working on some Kallistra (12mm) Anglo-Saxon General Fyrd (coerls) and  have become really frustrated by by wash. I am going for muted earth tones as a palette.

For my first wash, I used Vallejo Dark Grey wash watered down with water and medium to 1 ink to 3 water / medium. This is a very pigmented was and I feel at this mix, is still too strong for me.

Firstly I primed in brown special metal primer, then heavily applied the wash, once dry I block painted, but the I feel th paint picked up the was and became dirty ...... so re highlight every thing and then wash thinly - figures were just too dark and drab for little fellows.

So re highlight again, but things looked a bit harsh, so calmed down with a wash of GW Sepia wash mixed 50/50 with water/medium, but I still feel the figures are looking a bit drab. They may 'lift' with basing, but I am unhappy at the moment with my final wash mix and need to experiment further. It may be that the sepia was is OK and that I just need to start out with brighter colours on the figure.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: paulr on 09 January 2018, 07:07:54 AM
Getting the balance right with washes is tricky, particularly when going for muted colours :-\

You definitely need to go slightly brighter / lighter with your colours and have to make sure the wash and the colours are completely dry
I tend to leave at least 12 hours between painting / washing

I hope you find something you are happy with


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Steve J on 09 January 2018, 10:53:20 AM
I find that after block colours, as wash with GW Devlin Mud works well. Depending upon the colours, I'll either leave it neat, which works well for sandy colours, or dilute it 50% with water for say blues and greens. I leave it to dry overnight and then highlight any areas I think need doing. Hope this helps Norm.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Norm on 09 January 2018, 02:18:53 PM
Thanks Paul / Steve, on the next batch, I am not going to lay ink down until the end of the process. I have binned my Vallejo Dark Grey, it is so richly pigmented that I can't see it working with my style.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: kipt on 06 January 2019, 03:50:14 AM
Here is a site that is interesting.

https://andybelseymodels.wixsite.com/mysite/1-285-ww1-models


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Fenton on 06 January 2019, 08:16:56 AM
I use the same method for 10mm as I do for 6. Prime grey and thin black wash to bring out detail. Block in colours then wash with W&N nut brown (again quite thin) and sometimes I add a highlight especially on anything that's meant to be white

I find a very diluted future wash works well on 10mm also

I agree with Paul in allowing the original base colours to dry properly


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Norm on 06 January 2019, 09:24:12 AM
Kipt - thanks, a couple of years ago, those mini dioramas were highlighted in a military modelling magazine. Beautiful work.

Fenton are you adding your W&N ink to the Future wash? or are you putting the pure Future on first to seal it before washing with ink?

At the moment I have a mix of a third of each ...... Future, Water and W&N Peat Brown.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Fenton on 06 January 2019, 10:10:21 AM
I do both. For the future wash I only use W&N black ink. For some reason I cant  get the Nut brown to work properly in the future clear, its just too transparent so I normally just put the nut brown ink on diluted with water straight on to  the figure after painting . Its been a while since I tried the nut brown with the future wash so maybe worth another go

Like you in a coffee jar I mix equal parts water and future and about 3/4 of a bottle of black ink. Maybe I just need more brown to make that colour  work properly


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Norm on 06 January 2019, 10:16:41 AM
Thanks, I find the brown alone a problem and reinforce it with a tad of darker ink. There must be a balance at some point, but I find with brown and future that the effect is either too weak, or I go too far the other way and get a muddy figure. The search goes on!


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Leman on 06 January 2019, 10:32:26 AM
I read a couple of years back that a coat of satin varnish before applying magic wash helps to keep the wash in the creases. I also use peat brown in most of my magic wash mixes and using this method produces a nice subtle effect.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Not Drowning, Waving on 06 January 2019, 07:52:31 PM
To avoid tedium couple of dry brush highlights. Come to think of it just do that. All good.


Title: Re: Non-Pendraken Board Info!
Post by: Not Drowning, Waving on 06 January 2019, 08:29:34 PM
So perhaps the post was intended for another thread.
Could be a 'don't give the remote to grandpa' moment. And here was I thinking the premature aging thing only happened to others...