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Title: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 25 March 2012, 04:05:05 AM
Pendraken are moving!  

After 20 years of carefully growing the business, we have finally managed to get to the point where we have outgrown the garage/extension/utility room/spare bedroom (!), and we need a proper space of our own.  We've been looking at industrial units since the start of the year, and have had a few viewings, but last week we found one which looked promising.  So, after a bit of haggling and a bit of paperwork, we will officially be making the big jump on April 2nd!

It's been a long road to get here, and we're all pretty excited at Pendraken HQ.  The past few years have seen a huge amount of growth for us, and for 10mm in general, and we'd like to thank everyone who has supported us thus far.  Hopefully the move to our own premises will allow us to improve things in several areas, so even more shiny goodies and quicker order despatch for our customers, and more space and a more efficient workplace for us.

The new unit will also mean that we can welcome visitors a lot easier than we can at Pendraken HQ, so we'd also like to extend an invitation to everyone to come and visit if you're ever in the area.  Just give us a ring to let us know when you're thinking of popping in, and we'll get the kettle on!  We could even cast up something for you while you wait!

I grabbed some pics of the unit when we were viewing it, and it's a big old space!
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Bolckow1.jpg)

There's also room for a mezzanine floor if we need more space in the future.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Bolckow2.jpg)

And my new office!
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Bolckow4.jpg)


As a consequence of the move though, there may be some delay to things while we get everything sorted in our new space.  The unit is only a couple of miles down the road, so it's not too far away fortunately, and we should be able to get everything done in around a week.  The plan at the moment is that we're getting the keys on Mon 2nd April, so the Monday and Tuesday will be spent fitting the workbenches and partitions, and then Wed/Thurs will be moving all the machines/moulds/etc down there.  Friday is my runover day in case anything gets delayed, or something comes up which we haven't anticipated.  I'd also expect it to take us a couple of weeks to get used to our new workspace, but we'll be working 7 days a week to make sure everything is done as smoothly as possible.

The website will remain open for business as usual, but if you are planning on placing an order in the next couple of weeks, please be aware that there may be a delay.


Price Increase  :(

The downside to the unit of course, is that our overheads are going to increase quite substantially.  On top of the other increases we've seen over the past 18 months, from metal, petrol, utilities, show stands, etc. it unfortunately means that we are going to have to put our prices up.  We don't enjoy doing this (not least because it requires a lot of work), but it's something which has to be done to allow us to continue growing as a business.  We're really proud of our fantastic customer base, so I hope that people still see us as great value for money.

The planned price increase will take the pack prices from:

£3.50 --> £4.00 (Regular packs)
£2.05 --> £2.35 (Vehicles)
£1.20 --> £1.35 (WWII foot packs)
£1.60 --> £1.80 (Fantasy packs)

The good news is that the price increase won't come into effect until August 1st, so there is a long time for folk to get orders in before the prices go up.  We're hoping this means there won't be a last minute rush in the last week of July, but I have a feeling there will be!  A coincidental benefit of the Aug 1st increase, is that the Pendraken Birthday will be the last show where people can purchase anything off the show stand at the old pricing.  After the Birthday, we'll be pulling everything off the racks and re-pricing it.

Again, I hope everyone sees this as a positive, as the majority of the price increase will be going straight back into making the business even bigger and better.

 8)


Postage

Finally, completely unrelated to the move, we are going to be changing the postage pricing very slightly.  The % rates are staying exactly the same, but we need to increase the minimum postage amounts a little, as we're losing out on a lot of the smaller orders.  With Royal Mail increasing their prices as well on April 1st, that loss will be even more.  So, the changes to the minimums will be:

UK - increased to £1.00 minimum.
Europe - increased to £1.50 minimum.
RoW - increased to £2.00 minimum.

These changes will go live on Sat 7th April.  As a counter-balance, we may look at putting a maximum postage charge in place as well, but I'll need to chat with Matt about that first.


Let us know your thoughts on all of the above, your feedback is very important to us and always appreciated.

 :-bd


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Post by: Shecky on 25 March 2012, 06:43:47 AM
Congratulations. The new digs look nice.


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Post by: Derek H on 25 March 2012, 08:52:34 AM
All the best for the move. 


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Post by: Steve J on 25 March 2012, 08:54:41 AM
Nice to know that things are going so well for you guys :). We long out grew our workshop space but the bosses refuse to move us to bigger premises >:(. As for the price increase, it is still very good value for money IMHO.


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Post by: OldenBUA on 25 March 2012, 08:55:27 AM
Today a new business unit, tomorrow the entire world!

Congratulations, keep up the good work, and good luck with the move!  :-bd


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Post by: Sevej on 25 March 2012, 08:58:49 AM
wishing you guys all the best :D


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Post by: Techno on 25 March 2012, 09:09:05 AM
Very best of luck Leon and the team...and congrats !
May Pendraken continue to grow and grow !
Cheers - Phil.


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Post by: Kiwidave on 25 March 2012, 09:12:03 AM
Great news Leon!

And you've now got a load more room for a truly epic Coke Wall :D


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Post by: nikharwood on 25 March 2012, 09:47:37 AM
Looking good...far too tidy at the moment - it'll be good to see it full of Pendraken loveliness (that's the machines & stuff, mate - not you  ;) ) ;D :D ;D


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Post by: mad lemmey on 25 March 2012, 10:34:20 AM
Nice one chaps!
Good luck with the move.
Even with a price rise your figures are still some of the most reasonably priced on the market!


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Post by: wargamesbob on 25 March 2012, 11:31:36 AM
Excellent news Leon, congratulations, I wish you all the best in your new premises.

Bob


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Post by: kerath on 25 March 2012, 11:36:31 AM
Congrats and good luck, Team Pendraken!


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Post by: Bernie on 25 March 2012, 11:37:32 AM
Best of luck with the move - know how difficult you have had it for past couple of years

Bernie


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Post by: Nosher on 25 March 2012, 12:40:15 PM
The office will be improved dramatically with a 'Top Totty' wall 8->

Remember the days when it was acceptable to have a topless calendar next to your desk :-bd

Good luck with your 20th Birthday present!


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Post by: Luddite on 25 March 2012, 01:28:58 PM
Woot!

Go Pendraken!

What general area will the new unit be in?  I think i'll need to arrange a visit - maybe a few of us at the club might come down mob-handed.

Not thinking of opening a 'store front' at all?


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Post by: capthugeca on 25 March 2012, 01:40:26 PM
Congratulations, Pendaken.

I hope the move goes smoothly and look forward to seeing new developments.

We're really proud of our fantastic customer base, so I hope that people still see us as great value for money.

In the vast majority of cases, organisations get the customer base they deserve.

I still think that you're very good value and it's a joy to buy from a friendly bunch of people who are passionate about the hobby and serving their customers.



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Post by: Raider4 on 25 March 2012, 02:00:50 PM
Good luck with the move to 'proper' premises. Hope it all works out okay.

Remember the days when it was acceptable to have a topless calendar next to your desk :-bd
I was given an induction course when I joined my firm in 1985. Me & 3 others were given a tour of all the company's premises, including a small print works. The back wall was plastered in pictures of naked women. Not quite Penthouse in pose, but not far off.

Just entering this building caused a walk-out by the printers - one of the people on the tour was a women, and women were completely verboten from the print works

Mind you, we could all smoke at our desks as well.

How times change.

Martyn
--


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 25 March 2012, 02:45:01 PM
What fantastic news - all the best for a smooth move. :-bd


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Post by: Wanax on 25 March 2012, 06:51:08 PM
Big congratulations from Italy, my best wishes..

Sandro



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Post by: mollinary on 25 March 2012, 07:01:20 PM
Congratulations!  Just keep producing great figures, with great and responsive service, and you'll keep getting my custom. Hope your new home is everything you desire.

Mollinary


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Post by: Fenton on 25 March 2012, 07:07:12 PM
Congrats on the new premises...Looks like you've got toilets now as well :D


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Post by: peterdong on 25 March 2012, 07:57:37 PM
Great!!!  8)

However, prices are my worst enemy (it often prevents me from ordering things I like).
But they are still better than many other producers!!!  :)


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Post by: Orcs on 25 March 2012, 07:58:38 PM
Congratulations.  Good luck with the move.

You are still very good value even after the price rise, and the customer service is excellent, so I don't think you need to worry about that.  



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Post by: Orcs on 25 March 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Just had a comparison of your new pices against Magister Militum, and in most cased they are 25% more expensive, but with cavalry because they only have 12 per pack its a whopping 55%



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Post by: mart678 on 25 March 2012, 08:54:10 PM
Hi Leon

SO WHAT DATE IS THE UNIT WARMING PARTY!!!!

Looks nice my upgrade is a 12ft x 6/8ft shed coming soon and a move of 20ft keep up the good work
Martin


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Post by: Techno on 25 March 2012, 09:02:04 PM
Watch out for April Fool messages the day before you move Leon.  ;)
Cheers - Phil


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Post by: cameronian on 25 March 2012, 09:33:36 PM
Ooooh, that's going to be SO cold in the winter, and those electricity bills, where's the wood burning stove going, and the business rates, overheads, *sucks teeth*
 ;D


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Post by: Maenoferren on 25 March 2012, 10:52:52 PM
Yey well done  :D


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Post by: goat major on 26 March 2012, 08:21:39 AM
great news - congrats !!!!


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Post by: Hertsblue on 26 March 2012, 09:09:14 AM
Great to hear of a small business growing in this economic climate. It's not all doom and gloom then.  :)


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Post by: Jose Mendes on 26 March 2012, 10:03:42 AM
Many congratulations Pendraken, by changing facilities.
Looking through the pictures, no doubt you guys will have excellent conditions.

Too bad the price increase, but nothing that was not expected, since it's all on the rise, ... less the wages.

Best regards


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Post by: daveyboy21 on 26 March 2012, 10:41:08 AM
Onwards and Upwards Guys. Dont forget the visitors centre and gaming tables and full range cabinets and............................... LOL
Seriously though great news. More power to your elbow
All Hail the Draken


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Post by: rexhurley on 26 March 2012, 11:13:14 AM
Good to see the growth and re the increases a change to a max limit on postage would be appreciated given our previous discussions of what you charge versus the lesser amount GB Post charges  ;) ;) :-\ :o :o


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Post by: Le Manchou on 26 March 2012, 11:32:38 AM
A logical growth after years of hard work, congratulations! Of course the price increase is not a good news for us buyers but you have good reasons for that and you are still very competitive!

Le Manchou


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Post by: jfariahitech on 26 March 2012, 11:47:45 AM
Good luck for Pendraken.

Thanks for everything!

 =D>


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Post by: Avalon on 26 March 2012, 01:10:39 PM
Hope the move goes smoothly, and that you're back up and running in no time, Look forward to seeing you at Salute 2012.

Prices going up 12-15% isnt a big issue especially with the way other costs are going up.


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Post by: Leon on 26 March 2012, 03:24:35 PM
Thanks for the support and well wishes guys, it's much appreciated!  Only a week to go to the big move, so today I'm organising phone lines and an alarm system.  8)

And you've now got a load more room for a truly epic Coke Wall :D

I'm not sure what Dave would have to say about that...  :D

it'll be good to see it full of Pendraken loveliness (that's the machines & stuff, mate - not you  ;) ) ;D :D ;D

 :P

The office will be improved dramatically with a 'Top Totty' wall 8->

I'm not sure what my missus would have to say about that...  ;) :D

What general area will the new unit be in?  I think i'll need to arrange a visit - maybe a few of us at the club might come down mob-handed.

Not thinking of opening a 'store front' at all?

The unit is down on a small industrial estate near Pendraken HQ, just off the A66.  I've not actually got the postcode for it yet, but should have once we sign the papers next Monday.  If you fancy popping down though, just let me know and I'll give you some directions.

No plans for a store front at this point, it's too expensive to get somewhere with any real footfall, or a better locale.  A small 500 sq/ft shop unit on the edge of Middlesbrough town centre is around £12k rent per annum!   :o  The new unit will be as close to a store front as it can be, with a customer area, some displays, seating and a table.  We can cast orders as people wait as well.

...Looks like you've got toilets now as well :D

We do indeed, have you been chatting to one of our casters...  :-\ :D

However, prices are my worst enemy (it often prevents me from ordering things I like).

Don't forget that the VAT will still be taken off for US customers, so the new packs will be £3.33 for you (£1.96 vehicles / £1.13 WWII infantry / £1.50 Fantasy).

SO WHAT DATE IS THE UNIT WARMING PARTY!!!!

Dave suggested doing something like that, but with Salute coming up, there's not a really ideal time for it.  We do have the Birthday Bash in a couple of months though, so we could do something then while people are in the area?  Maybe open up the unit after the event or the day after, for people to have a look around?

Just had a comparison of your new pices against Magister Militum, and in most cased they are 25% more expensive, but with cavalry because they only have 12 per pack its a whopping 55%

 8)

Ooooh, that's going to be SO cold in the winter, and those electricity bills, where's the wood burning stove going, and the business rates, overheads, *sucks teeth*

It warms up surprisingly quickly when you've got three burners and a vulcaniser all going!  It might be a bit chilly in the winter, but we'll have a look at that when it comes to it.

Too bad the price increase, but nothing that was not expected, since it's all on the rise, ... less the wages.

I know, and we wouldn't do it unless we had to.  If it's any consolation, the wages haven't gone up here either...!   :( :D

Dont forget the visitors centre and gaming tables and full range cabinets and............................... LOL

One step at a time I think!   :D

Good to see the growth and re the increases a change to a max limit on postage would be appreciated given our previous discussions of what you charge versus the lesser amount GB Post charges  ;) ;) :-\ :o :o

I'm not sure on the exact differences, but even with the 25% rate we lose out on shipping most non-EU orders.  I think it only switches back in our favour when you get into the really big orders, hence the possibility of putting maximums in place.  As an example, I've got a package here for Russia, about £40 worth, 1.6kg, and it's going to cost nearly £20 to send it!   :o

Look forward to seeing you at Salute 2012.

Will do!



 :-bd :-bd :-bd


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Post by: Luddite on 26 March 2012, 03:56:15 PM
Quote
The new unit will be as close to a store front as it can be, with a customer area, some displays, seating and a table.  We can cast orders as people wait as well.

Aye, that's what i was thinking!   :-bd


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Post by: jdeleonardis on 26 March 2012, 04:09:51 PM
Congrats Pendraken!  That is very exciting news for you!


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Post by: robert on 26 March 2012, 04:49:24 PM
Good news indeed and a BIG step for you I guess!

Congratulations on the move and thanks for all the hard work which has made it happen.


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Post by: fred. on 26 March 2012, 05:58:06 PM
Congrats on being able to take such a big step forward. Hopefully more space will allow you to get more things done.

The photos like almost exactly like an industrial unit I used to manage - but was on the other side of the country so it certainly isn't the same one! The temperature inside is probably the only bad thing, as it tends to be on the extreme side of whatever is happening outside.  A random tip (if you have choice of similar units) try to get one where the roller shutter opens away from the prevailing wind direction.

Prices as others have said the increase isn't huge and is still very competitive. For future increases you may want to consider if some of the older figures can justify a higher price point - though sales will probably give you the answer to this.


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Post by: Leon on 26 March 2012, 06:26:09 PM
The photos like almost exactly like an industrial unit I used to manage - but was on the other side of the country so it certainly isn't the same one! The temperature inside is probably the only bad thing, as it tends to be on the extreme side of whatever is happening outside.  A random tip (if you have choice of similar units) try to get one where the roller shutter opens away from the prevailing wind direction.

No choice on that front unfortunately, but it's within a cul-de-sac of units, so it's not open to the elements much.  If it's anything like the current workshop, it will indeed be red hot in summer and freezing in winter!  There is a back fire exit which we can open for airflow, but we won't be opening the roller door very often.

Prices as others have said the increase isn't huge and is still very competitive. For future increases you may want to consider if some of the older figures can justify a higher price point - though sales will probably give you the answer to this.

Most of the older ranges left in the catalogue should be phased out within a year or two tops.  Off the top of my head, the old LoA is already gone, and the Peninsular Fr/Br will both be pulled when the new Brits are done.  Some of the other 19th C ranges will be revamped, like the Crimeans, as will some more of the 20th C. infantry.  We might also look at remodelling some of the vehicles to bring them up to par with the newer ones.

Other than those, I think we're doing alright on that front.  I might consider pulling some of the older Fantasy ranges, but I'd need to figure out replacements for them.



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Post by: Kiwidave on 26 March 2012, 06:57:51 PM
Thanks for the support and well wishes guys, it's much appreciated!  Only a week to go to the big move, so today I'm organising phone lines and an alarm system.  8)

So I guess now is a bad time to put an order in....


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Post by: Leon on 26 March 2012, 07:08:27 PM
So I guess now is a bad time to put an order in....

There's no bother with placing orders, there'll just be a bit of a delay over normal while we get moved and settled in.


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Post by: wargamesbob on 26 March 2012, 08:36:57 PM
Leon. Don't forget to allow for a dedicated, custom lit shelf in the new unit, so that you to catch up on the photography  ;) 

Bob


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Post by: Techno on 26 March 2012, 09:00:08 PM
I don't think you need a  ;) there Bob !
I think (really) that's a damn good idea....Far easier to have something set up on an almost permanent basis....provided you've got the room to do it.
Cheers - Phil.


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Post by: mollinary on 26 March 2012, 09:44:59 PM
Have to agree with Techno and Bob - photographs on the net are essential.  There are always reasons why not to do something, but this is an opportunity, and with a facility, and a realisable target of so many per day, you'll get there much quicker than you think.  Go for it !

Mollinary


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Post by: Bertie on 26 March 2012, 10:03:28 PM
Well done team, good to hear a good business story for a change. Now get exporting and get the country out of financial mess we have ;)
Bertie.


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Post by: Techno on 26 March 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Queen's Award For Industry for Pendraken soon ! (Not joking !)
Cheers - Phil


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Post by: Leon on 27 March 2012, 12:53:38 AM
Leon. Don't forget to allow for a dedicated, custom lit shelf in the new unit, so that you to catch up on the photography  ;) 

I think (really) that's a damn good idea....Far easier to have something set up on an almost permanent basis....provided you've got the room to do it.

Have to agree with Techno and Bob - photographs on the net are essential.  There are always reasons why not to do something, but this is an opportunity, and with a facility, and a realisable target of so many per day, you'll get there much quicker than you think.  Go for it !

As much as I'd like to say there will be a photo area, at this point I'm not sure.  We'll have to get everything else down there and see if there'd be space first, but I know there won't be room in the office.  That would mean it has to go out in the workshop, and all that dust, talc and general dirt isn't going to do the light units or the lightbox itself any favours...

I might have a think about a mini studio, see what I can knock up.


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Post by: Chad on 27 March 2012, 10:17:48 AM
Congratulations. As many have said it is good to hear of a business expanding.

Again as many have said, despite the price increases you will still be competitive particularly when you look at the fantastic quality of current releases. All power to your elbow.

It's also up to us to continue our support and make sure the move is a good one for everyone.  :-bd

Chad


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Post by: Techno on 27 March 2012, 10:44:02 AM
As much as I'd like to say there will be a photo area, at this point I'm not sure.  We'll have to get everything else down there and see if there'd be space first, but I know there won't be room in the office.  That would mean it has to go out in the workshop, and all that dust, talc and general dirt isn't going to do the light units or the lightbox itself any favours...

I might have a think about a mini studio, see what I can knock up.

I hadn't even considered the talc !....Dirt and dust, yup !.....But the talc will just get EVERYWHERE.....Be like taking photos through a soft focus filter after a couple of days....probably just a couple of hours, in truth !
Of course you will  have the 'garage' back, at Chez Pendraken....So you can bring your work home with you ! ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.


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Post by: Squirrel on 27 March 2012, 01:04:34 PM
Awesome news Leon! The move will be a ton of work, but will make life soooo much easier in the long run I'm sure. Hopefully everything will go smoothly.

As for casting while the customer waits - that really is hot off the press  :D

Cheers,

Kev



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Post by: Avalon on 27 March 2012, 04:10:31 PM
I know you've just published new postage rates, but will you be re-evaluating themm following the news that the Royal mail are putting prices up on 30th April?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500)


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Post by: Leon on 27 March 2012, 05:26:17 PM
I hadn't even considered the talc !....Dirt and dust, yup !.....But the talc will just get EVERYWHERE.....Be like taking photos through a soft focus filter after a couple of days....probably just a couple of hours, in truth !
Of course you will  have the 'garage' back, at Chez Pendraken....So you can bring your work home with you ! ;D ;D

Dave can have it, there's not enough room at my house!

I know you've just published new postage rates, but will you be re-evaluating themm following the news that the Royal mail are putting prices up on 30th April?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500)

We'd been expecting a price rise anyway, so there won't be any changes to the postage other than the increase to the minimums already announced.  We put everything through a franking machine in the office, so we get a slightly better rate than at the Post Office.


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Post by: Avalon on 28 March 2012, 08:07:45 AM
Thanks for the clarification Leon, I just wondered as some of the price rises were a little larger than most people thought they would be.  :-bd


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Post by: Luddite on 28 March 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Thanks for the clarification Leon, I just wondered as some of the price rises were a little larger than most people thought they would be.  :-bd

Aye Avalon, and all the moaning and carping on by 'the public' on the News channels really got me angry...

I mean 60p!

Good grief.

Personally i have loads of ways to get a leter from Land's End to John O'Groats for less than 60p.

This is clearly Royal Mail profiteering on a grand scale...

[/sarcasm]

 >:(

The government (red and blue (and blu/yellow :()) have systematically dismantled the national postal service over the last 20 years.  They hived off all the profitmaking activities (parcel deliveries, counter services, pseudo-banking, benefits payments, GIROs, etc.) to private firms.

All this used to support the loss-making core business postal service.

Then they wonder why the Royal Mail, bereft of the activities that made it largely self-sustaining, now makes massive losses.

When they finally kill off what's left, there won't be a national letter delivery service anymore.  What profit-driven company is going to deliver your letter for 60p?  

60p to send a letter is still massively below the actual cost to deliver it.

Even now, some courier services you pay for actually just hand it off to the PO, typically for the 'final mile' (as its known).

Personally i dread the interent seller that uses a courier or private firm.  I'm never in when they deliver so my package is usually left in some depot 30 miles away that i have to go and collect myself (i now refuse - i've paid to have it delivered to me.  No delivery, i insist on my money back...the company can keep its goods).

The PO on the other hand is a 2 minute walk away in the village, meaning i can easily pick it up.

When the government finally destroys our PO, we will all feel its loss...

 :(



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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 28 March 2012, 11:01:57 AM
The 1840 Penny Black would cost over £3 in today's prices....


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Post by: Hurrah on 28 March 2012, 12:06:43 PM
Looking forward to the celebratory "removal van" model complete with Bed, Wardrobe and Kitchen sink on the back. ;)


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Post by: Leon on 28 March 2012, 05:03:18 PM
Personally i dread the interent seller that uses a courier or private firm.

I couldn't see it becoming the norm for UK orders for quite some time.  We tend to use it for international trade orders, or anything which is over the 2kg cutoff and would normally go by Parcel Force. 

I am tempted to use the courier for all our Italian orders as well, as unfortunately their postal service isn't the best, and we get a lot of lost packages over there.  It's a shame, cos we've got a great bunch of customers in Italy.


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Post by: Grundig on 28 March 2012, 08:19:32 PM
So what did your old digs look like?? ;)


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Post by: Leon on 28 March 2012, 09:25:26 PM
So what did your old digs look like?? ;)

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3778.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3778.0.html)

 :)


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Post by: fulcrum on 29 March 2012, 12:26:30 PM
With the imminent move, will the announcement of the release of Aztecs in Tarletons, originally planned for 1st April [javascript:void(0);] still be going ahead?

What about other April releases, will they still be announced 1st April or are you going to wait until you're settled in?

Lee



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Post by: Leon on 29 March 2012, 03:22:18 PM
What about other April releases, will they still be announced 1st April or are you going to wait until you're settled in?

I'm still undecided on this.  There's a couple more moulds to make for the new Sci-Fi stuff, but I don't think they'd be ready for Sunday unfortunately.  I'll see what we can get done, but the April lot may have to wait an extra week until we're all in.

 :(


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Post by: Kassad on 29 March 2012, 08:16:19 PM
Congratulations!! Good luck with new place and good work!!  ;)


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Post by: lentulus on 29 March 2012, 10:13:30 PM
Anyone up for a pool on how long it will take before the new digs look like the old digs?  :-\  I'm guessing about six months, seven if they ditch the old coke can wall.


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Post by: Leon on 29 March 2012, 10:18:10 PM
Anyone up for a pool on how long it will take before the new digs look like the old digs?  :-\  I'm guessing about six months, seven if they ditch the old coke can wall.

I'm going for at least 3 years!  There'll be a female presence at this one, so all bets are off.  When I was knocking up the list of things we'll need at the unit, she added a dustpan and brush when I wasn't looking.  I've explained that if she wants them, then she's using them...  :D


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Post by: Nosher on 30 March 2012, 08:35:43 AM
"There'll be a female presence at this one... "

"When I was knocking up the list of things we'll need at the unit, she added a dustpan and brush when I wasn't looking."

Did she also cross out the entry for Totty Calendar?


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Post by: Leon on 30 March 2012, 03:41:15 PM
Did she also cross out the entry for Totty Calendar?

I've not told her about that yet...  :P


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Post by: gregernest on 30 March 2012, 06:16:22 PM
Great to hear you guys are growing!  :D :)

As a fan here in the US, I'm hoping that you do put a cap on the postage.  It would encourage me to make my orders larger and direct to you.  :-\


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Post by: irregularwars on 01 April 2012, 09:56:05 AM
Well done guys, very exciting!


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Post by: Jagger on 01 April 2012, 04:38:37 PM
Quote
Then they wonder why the Royal Mail, bereft of the activities that made it largely self-sustaining, now makes massive losses.

Something similiar going in America with hospitals.  Investors put together a team of doctors and set up independent offices to strip patients from the profitable units of hospitals and then everyone wonders why hospitals are going broke.  The hospitals need the profitable units to offset the losses from the non-profitable units.  Been going on for at least 10 years now.

Prices are going up everywhere.  So have you considered discounts for seniors or the unemployed or those with emotional disturbances?   Perhaps a triple discount for anyone with the trifecta.  Or maybe a sliding scale of prices with bankers and politicians paying a little higher prices to help sustain the great unwashed masses....    :d


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Post by: Luddite on 02 April 2012, 10:57:32 AM
You have to have a soul to play wargames.  That discounts bankers and most politicians.  However if these parasites (accurate definition if you look it up) choose to wargame, i'd have qualms in making them pay extra.

Additionally, if Pendraken are introducing social pricing, as an emotionally disturbed, unemployed pensioner i heartily agree*.   ;) ;D


And I guess Jagger you're presaging where the Tories will be taking the NHS in 10 years...



*Everything about this sentence is incorrect.


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 02 April 2012, 01:44:33 PM
You have to have a soul to play wargames.  That discounts bankers and most politicians.  However if these parasites (accurate definition if you look it up) choose to wargame, i'd have qualms in making them pay extra.

Additionally, if Pendraken are introducing social pricing, as an emotionally disturbed, unemployed pensioner i heartily agree*.   ;) ;D


And I guess Jagger you're presaging where the Tories will be taking the NHS in 10 years...



*Everything about this sentence is incorrect.

Add Public Employees to that list and it would be complete...  ;)


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Post by: mad lemmey on 02 April 2012, 02:50:00 PM
Remember us teachers come under the description of public employees too! If I wasn't on two of my 13 weeks unpaid holiday this year I might get upset!  ;D
madlemmey
enjoy Easter everyone!  ;)


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Post by: Jagger on 02 April 2012, 03:47:36 PM
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13 weeks unpaid holiday


In America, they call it a temporary layoff.  Although I must admit, it does sound better if you call it an unpaid holiday.


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Post by: Luddite on 02 April 2012, 04:47:43 PM
Add Public Employees to that list and it would be complete...  ;)

 >:(

What, like nurses, bin men, road maintenance crews, streetsweepers, teachers, border / customs security, armed forces personnel, police, fire brigade, environmental protection officers, judges, ambulance drivers, prison wardens, community organisers, local council administrators, child protection officers.

Are those the 'parasites' you mean?

Those people that keep the country going, you mean?

Those people who CONTRIBUTE to the social fabric we all take for granted you mean?



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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 02 April 2012, 04:56:42 PM
Remember us teachers come under the description of public employees too! If I wasn't on two of my 13 weeks unpaid holiday this year I might get upset!  ;D
madlemmey
enjoy Easter everyone!  ;)

As a school librarian I am also a public employee ; I see it as a way of getting some of my income tax back. (and having the 13 weeks hols of course)
 8)


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 02 April 2012, 05:01:39 PM
>:(

What, like nurses, bin men, road maintenance crews, streetsweepers, teachers, border / customs security, armed forces personnel, police, fire brigade, environmental protection officers, judges, ambulance drivers, prison wardens, community organisers, local council administrators, child protection officers.

Are those the 'parasites' you mean?

Those people that keep the country going, you mean?

Those people who CONTRIBUTE to the social fabric we all take for granted you mean?


Just using your own definition old chap "An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.".... Public employees taking my hard earned income as tax.... (and you missed out librarians from your list)


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Post by: Orcs on 02 April 2012, 05:43:01 PM
"There'll be a female presence at this one... "

"When I was knocking up the list of things we'll need at the unit, she added a dustpan and brush when I wasn't looking."

Did she also cross out the entry for Totty Calendar?

Perhaps you should ask her to pose for the Totty thread, or the Unlikely Totty Thread - whichever you feel is most appropriate?    ;D ;D

Not that I'm rying to get you in trouble :d


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Post by: Luddite on 02 April 2012, 06:45:51 PM
Just using your own definition old chap "An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.".... Public employees taking my hard earned income as tax.... (and you missed out librarians from your list)

Not talking biology here old boy.  I meant the second definition:

'A person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.'

 :-B ;)

And if you're a librarian, i wish you all the best sir.  Hopefully your temple of knowledge isn't in your local authority's front line of cuts.

'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.  - Cicero'


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 02 April 2012, 09:21:45 PM
Not talking biology here old boy.  I meant the second definition:

'A person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.'

 :-B ;)

And if you're a librarian, i wish you all the best sir.  Hopefully your temple of knowledge isn't in your local authority's front line of cuts.

'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.  - Cicero'

In which case, Mon Vieux, we are in accord.

In my case, I am still employed, but at 15 percent less lucre...


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Post by: Luddite on 02 April 2012, 11:31:19 PM
That sucks Ben, but i suppose it could be worse.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Jagger on 03 April 2012, 02:05:14 AM
Nothing more dangerous than talking politics, except maybe religion.

Unfortunately, my retirement plan just went down the drain.  I forgot to buy a ticket to that 260 million dollar lottery someone won a day or two back.  So back to the salt mines, folks.


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Post by: Leon on 03 April 2012, 07:53:47 AM
And it begins...

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4982.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4982.0.html)


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Post by: Luddite on 03 April 2012, 01:02:33 PM
Nothing more dangerous than talking politics, except maybe religion.


Agreed.

The problem is there's nothing worth discussing except politics and religion.  And of course the Tarleton Mk.I Aztec tank.   ;D


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Post by: mollinary on 03 April 2012, 07:37:07 PM
Ben,

You are, of course, absolutely right. We public employees deserve everything we get. These days I cannot even look myself in the mirror anymore. Mind you that is more to do with the ravages of time,  chips and alcohol!  Still, I'll stop sponging off all you hard working souls soon enough, and retire to that tax haven in the sun!

Regards,

Mollinary the Fat Cat, persecutor of the proletariat, and first against the wall when the revolution comes (but you'd better get a move on).


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Post by: Phobos on 03 April 2012, 09:32:17 PM
Nothing more dangerous than talking politics, except maybe religion.

Unfortunately, my retirement plan just went down the drain.  I forgot to buy a ticket to that 260 million dollar lottery someone won a day or two back.  So back to the salt mines, folks.

In Spain, taboo themes are religion, politics, local history (specially, SCW, believe me) and bullfighting.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 03 April 2012, 10:44:54 PM
Ben,

You are, of course, absolutely right. We public employees deserve everything we get. These days I cannot even look myself in the mirror anymore. Mind you that is more to do with the ravages of time,  chips and alcohol!  Still, I'll stop sponging off all you hard working souls soon enough, and retire to that tax haven in the sun!

Regards,

Mollinary the Fat Cat, persecutor of the proletariat, and first against the wall when the revolution comes (but you'd better get a move on).

If you want a microcosm of class warfare - us downtrodden Support Staff workers and peasants being ground under the feet of the money bags Bourgeois Teacher Toffs  has it all....


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Post by: Womble67 on 05 April 2012, 09:58:36 AM
Hi there I would just like to wish you all the best on your new move.

Andy


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Post by: Leon on 05 April 2012, 11:25:51 PM
Thanks for all the support so far, it's coming along very nicely so far.  We should be fully operational by the start of next week hopefully.

 8)


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Post by: Aart Brouwer on 24 May 2012, 10:22:50 PM
Thanks for all the support so far, it's coming along very nicely so far.  We should be fully operational by the start of next week hopefully.

 8)

Good for you guys! But you realise that without pictures the hoi polloi won't believe anything these days. We want pics of your new operation, Leon. Lotsa.

Cheers,
Aart


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Post by: Leon on 25 May 2012, 12:36:30 AM
Good for you guys! But you realise that without pictures the hoi polloi won't believe anything these days. We want pics of your new operation, Leon. Lotsa.

Cheers,
Aart

I'll be taking some more pics this weekend, when I get the new sign up outside!

 8)


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Post by: Yorky on 25 May 2012, 02:35:54 PM
i thought it was a secret location. the magical elves make the minis. No sign Leon, or they'll all come   :P


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Post by: Leon on 25 May 2012, 03:16:08 PM
i thought it was a secret location. the magical elves make the minis. No sign Leon, or they'll all come   :P


 :D


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 26 May 2012, 08:35:00 AM
[...] this weekend, when I get the new sign up outside!

Finally coming out of the closet, eh?  ;)

Cheers,
Aart


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Post by: Techno on 26 May 2012, 11:20:51 AM
i thought it was a secret location. the magical elves make the minis. No sign Leon, or they'll all come   :P


Who are you calling a magical elf ?....I'm going to tell Clibby and the others.... ;)
Cheers - Phlegolas.


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Post by: Hertsblue on 26 May 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Or possibly Phelrond.  :D


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: mollinary on 24 June 2012, 08:40:10 PM
But surely not Pharwen?

Mollinary


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 24 June 2012, 09:03:01 PM
As long as you don't tell Phartwell ..  :P

Cheers,
Aart


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Post by: Techno on 24 June 2012, 09:41:40 PM
As long as you don't tell Phartwell ..  :P
Cheers,
Aart

So....You've met one of my dogs then Aart ? ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Aart Brouwer on 24 June 2012, 09:53:59 PM
So....You've met one of my dogs then Aart ? ;)
Cheers - Phil.

It's magic, innit?  :P

Cheers,
Aart


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Post by: Leon on 30 June 2012, 01:16:31 AM
With the addition of our new sign outside, we are now officially open for visits!

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/The%20Big%20Move/Unit2.jpg)

The address is:

Unit 2D, Vaughan Court
Bolckow Industrial Estate
Middlesbrough
TS6 7BJ

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/The%20Big%20Move/Map1.jpg)

This is on the eastern end of Middlesbrough, but is very easily accessible from the A66, which goes right past the end of our estate.  If anyone would like to pop in for a visit, we're there from 9:15am through 'til 10pm-ish most days, so just give us a bell to let us know you're coming, and we'll get the kettle on!

 :-bd


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Post by: Hertsblue on 30 June 2012, 11:21:59 AM
Can't quite pick you out, Leon. Could you just look up, please.  ;)


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: lentulus on 30 June 2012, 02:20:08 PM
What is that grim back smear to your north-east?  It looks more like a forest fire than anything.


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Post by: Leon on 30 June 2012, 03:05:06 PM
What is that grim back smear to your north-east?  It looks more like a forest fire than anything.

That's Mordor... (see WIP unit pics!)  ;)

I'm guessing it's the smoke from the industrial works out the back.


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Post by: Steve J on 30 June 2012, 04:16:15 PM
You really should be at unit 3D ;).


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 30 June 2012, 04:23:03 PM
You really should be at unit 3D ;).

 :D


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Post by: lentulus on 02 July 2012, 04:05:40 AM
I'm guessing it's the smoke from the industrial works out the back.

Talk about your dark satanic mills.  I hope the wind don't shift.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 02 July 2012, 04:11:12 AM
Talk about your dark satanic mills.  I hope the wind don't shift.

30-40 years ago you wouldn't have been able to see half of Middlesbrough on that satellite photo!  We used to be one of the key steel producing areas of the world, Teesside Steel was used to build the Sydney Harbour Bridge!   8)

Unfortunately, a lot of the industry disappeared over the years, although they have just reopened the steelworks again this year, bringing a lot of much-needed jobs back into the region.


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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 02 July 2012, 07:56:38 AM
Teeside still makes the best metal in the world... only slightly smaller.....


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Hertsblue on 02 July 2012, 09:28:16 AM
Teeside still makes the best metal in the world... only slightly smaller.....

 :D :D :D


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Post by: Aart Brouwer on 04 August 2012, 12:45:26 PM
Teeside still makes the best metal in the world... only slightly smaller.....

 ;D


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Post by: far4ngn on 07 August 2012, 01:03:05 AM
Aaah pictures of home :)  I'll have to call in next August.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 07 August 2012, 03:20:27 AM
Aaah pictures of home :)  I'll have to call in next August.

 8)


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Post by: Sandinista on 07 August 2012, 07:23:41 AM
30-40 years ago you wouldn't have been able to see half of Middlesbrough on that satellite photo!  We used to be one of the key steel producing areas of the world, Teesside Steel was used to build the Sydney Harbour Bridge! 
The area was decimated in the eighties, some areas of Middlesbrough when I left school had over 90% male unemployment. The year I left school was the first year the areas main employers British Steel and ICI did not take on apprentices. Bleak was not the word. In the end most of the lads I grew up with moved out of the area for work, I'm still in London.


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Post by: ianrs54 on 07 August 2012, 08:53:59 AM
I'm still in London.

Commiserations.  :d

IanS


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Post by: nikharwood on 08 August 2012, 12:32:02 AM
Could be worse - you could be on Merseyside  ;) :P :d


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Post by: far4ngn on 08 August 2012, 01:34:12 AM
I left school in 1983, I was the only kid in my class to get a job after applying for over 150 jobs with enclosing a Stamped Addressed Envelope just to try and get a reply haha.  Even the ICI apprentices were eventually paid off..some coming to our little company.

I worked for an electrical contracting company working in heavy industry... so all those chemicals and British Steel metal dust and other crap in my lungs will probably catch up with me  >:(

Still love coming back and seeing how things have changed.


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 08 August 2012, 10:37:17 AM
I went South when I was eighteen, not a lot of prospects in Dewsbury in 1978...


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Post by: Hertsblue on 08 August 2012, 11:13:13 AM
That's interesting - I came east at seventeen. I didn't want to be an ice-cream seller for six months of the year and unemployed for the rest.  :(


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Post by: Yorky on 08 August 2012, 12:30:26 PM
i left school in 1986 & no apprentiships for me either, applied for RAF & Navy mechs & no jobs there too. i applied for all police forces in UK too

Ian


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Post by: Techno on 08 August 2012, 01:33:02 PM
I wish you lot would stop going on about how young you all are !  ;) Swine !!
Cheers - Phil.


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Post by: chrishanley on 11 September 2012, 10:39:22 AM
I did some contract work in Tees Dockyard in about 1990 on a Caledonian Macbrayne ship called the Isle of Mull.  I just remember working with some really great people, very skilled and dedicated to shipbuilding.
Chris   


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Post by: SV52 on 11 September 2012, 01:08:21 PM
Origin of your address:

'Henry William Ferdinand Bolckow [Bölckow], MP (8 December 1806 – 18 June 1878) was a Victorian industrialist, acknowledged as being one of the founders of modern Middlesbrough.'

Born in Pomerania (no jokes please) Apparently there be a statue to him somewhere in Midb.

Not a lot of people know that. :-bd


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Post by: Techno on 11 September 2012, 01:23:08 PM
Well....I for one was wondering where the 'Bolckow' part of the address came from.
Thanks SV !
Cheers - Phil.


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Post by: goat major on 11 September 2012, 01:40:14 PM
He's stood in Exchange Place in Middlesbrough. Unfortunately the rather magnificent Royal Exchange was knocked down to make way for a motorway flyover  >:(

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3199/3092306161_3efd860bde_z.jpg?zz=1)


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 11 September 2012, 03:39:08 PM
Unfortunately the rather magnificent Royal Exchange was knocked down to make way for a motorway flyover  >:(

Yeah, unfortunately there's nothing Middlesbrough Council likes more than knocking down old buildings...  >:(


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Post by: Jim Ando on 11 September 2012, 04:55:17 PM
Hi

I was on the isle of mull (the ship and island) two weeks ago .

It`s still afloat and doing the oban-mull run.

smallworld eh.

Jim


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Post by: Fenton on 06 September 2013, 01:19:14 PM
Any plans for celebrating the anniversary of the BIG MOVE?..Or did I miss it?


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Leon on 06 September 2013, 06:13:08 PM
Any plans for celebrating the anniversary of the BIG MOVE?..Or did I miss it?


Missed it, it was back in April unfortunately!

 :D


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Post by: sixsideddice on 12 February 2014, 12:40:39 AM
WOooooot!!!!!!    :)


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 12 February 2014, 02:44:46 AM
Saw there was a new post about a move, and thought "Pendraken are moving AGAIN?" and then realised someone had posted to an old thread.

Then I saw Aart posting and the message in his sig, and felt all sad again. He's still missed. :(


Title: Re: BIG NEWS! Please read!
Post by: Techno on 12 February 2014, 07:42:25 AM
Hear, hear..... :(
Cheers - Phil.



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Post by: Hertsblue on 12 February 2014, 09:45:08 AM
Absolutely.  :( :( :(