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Title: War of 1812
Post by: privateer on 13 April 2010, 10:19:33 AM
American and Canadian forces would be good


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: privateer on 03 May 2010, 05:18:28 AM
Does no one else like War of 1812, most hurt. (and a huff descended and he departed in it)


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leon on 03 May 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Oops, I must have missed this one!  It's something I think a couple of other people have suggested, I know we've had requests for some Canadians.  It could be something we can extend the new Napoleonics into once we get the bulk of the range done.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: mike40k on 05 May 2010, 03:19:58 AM
Another vote for war of 1812!


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: privateer on 10 May 2010, 03:59:11 AM
Mike, I liked your British for Sudan on the TMP 


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: 17-21l on 10 May 2010, 03:44:34 PM
Yes - but no!?? :'( - get the main contenders sorted first. I mean to say it was a bit of a side show  to the whole "Napoleonics" thing going on really wasnt it??

Although the British did kick some ass over there didnt they?. Ive read about this war many times and it makes me laugh that claims of victory in the "battle of..bla ..bla.." which really consisted of a couple of small boats on a lake shooting a couple of cannons at each other.

Then again we could burn the whitehouse down again - sod it count me in as a yes  :D :D

Hussar!!!!

God save the Queen


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: lentulus on 10 May 2010, 06:42:35 PM
side show  

Depends where you live, n'est pas?

And where else do you get use both Napoleonic figures and First Nations?


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: mike40k on 11 May 2010, 12:36:41 AM
Thanks for the kind words Privateer.

I certainly do think 1812 is a conflict worth gaming. Great variety of troops, incompetent commanders on both sides, lots of scenario options and you don't nearly as many figures as you would for the Napoleonic conflicts in Europe.

Though being Canadian I suppose I am somewhat biased...


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: privateer on 11 May 2010, 03:42:11 AM
I have War of 1812 British, Canadian and American forces for the 1814 Lakes campaign in 25mm. Where else can you get Militia, Regulars, Native Americans, Marines, Rifleman (American), French, Scots, West Indian troops in any combination all wrapped up with forest, farms and Lakes, about the only thing that was not there was Elephants. As to a side show, maybe but to the British it could have been a disaster if they had lost the Canadian part of the Empire.

What would be need to be made

For the British

1812 Shako/Uniform Troops
Light Dragoons
Royal Artillery 1812 Shako/Uniform
Royal Marines

for the Canadian

Glengarry Light Infantry Fencibles
Provincial Corps of Light Infantry (Canadian Voltiguers)
Caldwells Rangers
Militia in civilian clothes

American

Infantry in 1812 Uniform
Infantry in 1813 Uniform
Infantry in 1814 Uniform (Summer and Winter) or (Blue and Grey)
Rifleman in Hunting shirt
Rifleman in 1814 Uniform
US Dragoons
Mounted Rifles
Artillery
Militia (New York and Baltimore)
US Marines
Sailor

the Native American and early British are fine form the Nap Range


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: lentulus on 11 May 2010, 01:45:21 PM
A few personalities would be nice as well - Brock, de Salaberry, Tecumseh at least.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: 17-21l on 11 May 2010, 01:49:56 PM
Yes- but its all a bit boring and you wouldnt sell many figures  ;)


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leon on 11 May 2010, 04:43:36 PM
I have War of 1812 British, Canadian and American forces for the 1814 Lakes campaign in 25mm. Where else can you get Militia, Regulars, Native Americans, Marines, Rifleman (American), French, Scots, West Indian troops in any combination all wrapped up with forest, farms and Lakes, about the only thing that was not there was Elephants. As to a side show, maybe but to the British it could have been a disaster if they had lost the Canadian part of the Empire.

What would be need to be made

For the British

1812 Shako/Uniform Troops
Light Dragoons
Royal Artillery 1812 Shako/Uniform
Royal Marines

for the Canadian

Glengarry Light Infantry Fencibles
Provincial Corps of Light Infantry (Canadian Voltiguers)
Caldwells Rangers
Militia in civilian clothes

American

Infantry in 1812 Uniform
Infantry in 1813 Uniform
Infantry in 1814 Uniform (Summer and Winter) or (Blue and Grey)
Rifleman in Hunting shirt
Rifleman in 1814 Uniform
US Dragoons
Mounted Rifles
Artillery
Militia (New York and Baltimore)
US Marines
Sailor

the Native American and early British are fine form the Nap Range


Thanks for the info, I'll keep this in mind for once we've got the main Nap range done.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: privateer on 12 May 2010, 05:48:13 AM
Most of the British troops will be done with the main British Napoleonic Group

The 1814 US can be a small Mod of the British post 1812.

the comments around boring is a matter of taste, there are many thing I to find boring but others do not, I will not deride their choices.

At the end of the day, this is a wish list and while I would like to see these items produced I understand that Pendraken will need to make a business discussion around the return on investment.





Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: 17-21l on 12 May 2010, 11:08:28 AM
Privateer-mate!- It takes different strokes. I was looking for a wind up - obviously hasnt worked ( darn it!! :D)

I agree 1812 N America would be cool wargamming, all those different troop types- whatever floats your boat.

Ive just been called a boring so and so on another part of this site as Im into 'stuffy' old Napoleonics, so hey ho!

Kep on gaming  ;) :)

God save the Queen


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Natxo on 13 May 2010, 12:20:51 PM
Another vote for this!

I have allways wanted to paint it in 15mm, but It would be great to do it with bigger 10mm units.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: CorvetteK225 on 11 July 2011, 02:29:40 AM
Inspired by the updated top 10 requests, I stumbled on to this 1812 request thread. Please count me as voting on this one as well!  ;)

Dave


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leveller Mutineer on 11 July 2011, 10:58:30 AM
Another vote for 1812.

When I was serving in Germany (OK West Germany.  I feel old now), a US serviceman tried to tell me that they had beaten us in that war.  I was just about to explain the error in his knowledge of history, but I was beaten by the Canadian stood behind him.

Come to think of it, it wasn't me that was beaten, he was.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: General Bt Sherman on 20 July 2011, 03:01:00 PM
War of 1812 would be great but it's got to be a complete line.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: mad lemmey on 20 July 2011, 03:07:09 PM
Then again we could burn the whitehouse down again - sod it count me in as a yes  :D :D

Hussar!!!!

God save the Queen
Bless the 85L.I.(Bucks Light Inf)- Later the 2/K.S.L.I. My two 'home' units  :D


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leon on 13 August 2011, 02:58:46 AM
Votes added, nice to see the interest in this, could be a viable option in the progression of the Napoleonic range.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: ianrs54 on 13 August 2011, 09:22:11 AM
You really only need to add the Yanks, inculding a black whitehouse, most of the Brits were peribumbs - so could use the peninsular range.

IanS


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 August 2011, 10:08:21 AM
I shan't be voting for this one; can't stand Tschaikowski.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: vsolfronk on 05 April 2012, 05:03:52 PM
Another plug for War of 1812 troops


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 05 April 2012, 06:57:36 PM
And mine please.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Peritas on 05 April 2012, 10:57:05 PM
My vote


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: sultanbev on 12 April 2012, 06:37:32 PM
I have extensive War of 1812 armies in 15mm, and have done a lot of research into it, and will be releasing new Militia lists for each state in the MicroMark range.
The Osprey MAA319 is very good by the way.

For the Canadians you need:
Upper Canada Sedentary militia in top hats (aka round hat) and part uniform
Upper Canada Sedentary Militia cavalry in top hats and uniform (same figure can be used for Canadian Provincial LD in top hat aka round hat
Canadian Provincial Light Dragoons in Tarleton
Lower Canada militia in wool hats and coats
Caldwells Rangers were only 50 men strong so are not worth making the figure for
Usual infantry in stovepipe shakos for some militia, Canadian regulars, British regulars
Provincial marine which are sailors with pikes and or muskets
Woodland Indians on foot, mostly musket armed
Woodland Indians on horseback (yes, there was one unit of them)

For the Americans you need
uniformed regulars as above, 3 types, 2 artillery types, light dragoons, command

militia cavalry in uniform and tarleton (NY, Virginia) (use British figure)
militia cavalry in hunting shirt, round hat, rifle or musket (western states)
militia cavalry in civilian coat, round hat, musket, some sword and pistols only (western states)
militia cavarly in hunting shirt, low crowned hat aka cowboy hat (western states)
militia cavalry in shako and uniform (Maryland)
militia foot in hunting shirt, low crowned hat, musket or rifle (western states)
militia foot in long coat, regular accruements (backpack, cartridge box, canteen, bayonet) musket,
militia foot in long coat, top hat
militia in uniform coat, top hat (eastern states)
militia in uniform, shako + turban (maryland)
militia riflemen in hunting shirt, plain shako
militia artillery in uniform, bicorne
militia artillery in civilian coat, top hat

US Rangers - foot and mounted figure in hunting shirt, tarleton, musket

I won't mention the Pennsylvania militia cuirassiers yet......

Leon, if you need picture references, contact off forum and I'll send what I have. Militia in low-crowned hat and top could probably use the same figure in 10mm

Mark


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Peritas on 18 April 2012, 07:55:55 PM
My vote too


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: lentulus on 18 April 2012, 08:26:53 PM
sultanbev has me sold.  That line, I would buy. :D


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: wargamesbob on 18 April 2012, 10:38:33 PM
Me too please


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: YORSTONS on 21 June 2012, 07:47:55 PM
Add my vote please.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leon on 22 June 2012, 02:38:01 AM
Vote added!

 8)


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Hertsblue on 22 June 2012, 08:47:37 AM
And, hey presto, in they come at number two in the list.  ;)


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: lentulus on 28 July 2012, 02:45:28 AM
When you do 1812, do consider a unit I can field as these guys

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/games/museum/5.asp


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: sultanbev on 30 July 2012, 08:00:26 PM
These are the notes I have on this unit:
"Corps of Provincial Artificers: 38 men in 1812, (black pioneers) "Capt. Runcheys Coy of Coloured Men"
blue jacket+ black facings, round hat, grey pants  (1812-March 1815) "

so unless you are playing one to one skirmish, they aren't really going to figure in a game. In my rules they would make 2 figures just (in 15mm). Although Pendraken will have to do figures in round hats and short jackets anyway, for the Upper Canada Sedentary Militia and some US militia, so you should be able to make the unit.

Mark
   


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Nav on 30 July 2012, 10:46:53 PM
dont forget the highlanders I believe it was the 93rd that served in North America


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: sultanbev on 30 July 2012, 10:50:58 PM
Aye, 1st battalion in trews and flat hat thingy, rather than kilt and black bonnet.
Although the 2nd battalion served on Newfoundland, and I use them in traditional kilt and bonnet. But only because I had the figures at the time in 15mm. Managed to get the proper 1st/93rd figures from Falcon in 15mm before they went Stateside, but still haven't painted them!

Mark



Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: lentulus on 31 July 2012, 02:15:25 AM
These are the notes I have on this unit:
so unless you are playing one to one skirmish, they aren't really going to figure in a game. In my rules they would make 2 figures just (in 15mm).

I have never been one to let a dull reality spoil a good story; and naught wrong with 1:1 skirmish for that matter (or 1:5 which would let them show up a bit).  It was hardly a war of big battalions.

Actually, while Queenston heights would be a big battle at 1:5 it is doable; and I am think it would be grand to paint 1000 figures just to have a black militia company on the table.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: sultanbev on 31 July 2012, 02:56:29 AM
The American black units at New Orleans were more of a battalion size, c300 men in one unit I think. Same cut of clothing as well, top hat an all.

We never let reality get in the way either, we have more units at 1:20 for 1812 than existed altogether in one place, I have all the Canadian regulars and about 20 Lower Canada Sedentary Militia. We must have 50 battalions of US regulars between us!


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: far4ngn on 31 July 2012, 08:41:01 AM
+1 for me for this Period, very interested to give this a go.


Title: Re: War of 1812
Post by: Leon on 02 October 2012, 03:49:07 AM
Vote added!

 8)