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Title: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 28 June 2011, 08:24:32 PM
Hi Pendraken
Some time ago i asked about the possibility of having Austrain infantry advancing in greatcoat with musket over the shoulder as per their regulation for attack. Is there any possibility of this figure being produced?


regards

martyn
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 28 June 2011, 09:03:05 PM
It certainly used to be produced as I have several battalions of them.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 29 June 2011, 01:08:40 AM
It's on the list, but only a few votes unfortunately.  We've extended the 19th C. stuff quite a lot, plus the extra's that are being done as we speak, so I think we'll be giving the designer a break from this period for a while.

Quote from: Dour Puritan on 28 June 2011, 09:03:05 PM
It certainly used to be produced as I have several battalions of them.

We've not got anything with the musket over the shoulder in the current range, I'm not sure what poses were in the old moulds (circa 5+ years ago).
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: maciek on 29 June 2011, 07:26:29 AM
You can count my appeals for diversity of poses as a vote for Austrians in greatcoats with muskets shouldered (in at least three slightly different poses + officer, drummer and standard bearer).
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 02 July 2011, 06:40:42 PM
I can only suggest having a look on Ebay as there certainly were 1866 Austrians marching in greatcoat, but only one pose. The officer was also marching but he was in tunic only.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: mollinary on 03 July 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Another vote for this one from me.  DP, do you know of any photos of this figure?  I got my armies some years ago and I cannot recall this figure at all.

Mollinary
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 03 July 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Ok. I'll try another learning curve and see if I can get some photos up. Got OFSTED in school Monday and Tuesday but once the bastards have buggered off I should be able to try something on Wednesday.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 July 2011, 09:27:15 PM
Dour Putian - I have my Ofsted today and tomorrow - I feel your pain!
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 05 July 2011, 09:50:14 PM
Hey DP, Flickr is a bit awkward for posting photo's at times.  What you need to do is:

- Go to the picture you would like to post on the Forum.

- Above the image you should have 'Actions' and a little down arrow, and then symbols (envelope/Twitter/Facebook) and another down arrow.  Click this second down arrow, and a little drop down box will appear, with hopefully 3 options, two in blue text, one in black.

- The option in black text should read 'Grab the HTML code' and there will be a box full of code underneath.  Click on the code once to highlight it all in blue, then either right click your mouse and choose 'Copy' (or hold 'CTRL' and press 'C').  This will copy all of that code.

- Go to the Forum, and start writing your post.  When you would like to insert the image, just right click your mouse, and choose 'Paste' (or hold 'CTRL' and press 'V').  The code from your Flickr should now appear in your Forum post (it's quite long, a couple of lines worth).  When you submit the post, the image should be nicely displayed for you.

Let me know how you get on.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 06 July 2011, 06:40:32 PM
ONce again, here goes nothing:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@N05/5905649719/" title="Pendraken original 1866 Aus. by dourpuritan, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5160/5905649719_17e892f0f4.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Pendraken original 1866 Aus."></a>

Whoohoo!
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 06 July 2011, 06:45:25 PM
Aha, there was one extra step I missed out.  Before you click the box with the code in it, there are two little options below it, one marked 'HTML' and one marked 'BBCode'.  You'll need to select the 'BBCode' option first, and that will change the code slightly, so that the Forum can recognise it.  The link you've done works fine, but changing it to the BB code will display the image here on the Forum for everyone to see.

8)
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 06 July 2011, 07:08:45 PM
Once more, with elan
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6006/5906208920_98d314d177.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@N05/5906208920/)
Pendraken original 1866 Aus. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/57220021@N05/5906208920/) by dourpuritan (http://www.flickr.com/people/57220021@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 06 July 2011, 07:19:51 PM
Bingo! :-bd
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: nikharwood on 06 July 2011, 10:56:45 PM
And all of that above reinforces that photobucket is easier-ier...if you bung pics to a p'bucket account all you do is hover over your image, the  pop-up is [img] code - you click it once & it auto-copies & then you're good to go... 8)
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 07 July 2011, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: nikharwood on 06 July 2011, 10:56:45 PM
And all of that above reinforces that photobucket is easier-ier...if you bung pics to a p'bucket account all you do is hover over your image, the  pop-up is [img] code - you click it once & it auto-copies & then you're good to go... 8)

I've just got myself a Photobucket, and it is a whole lot easier.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: mollinary on 07 July 2011, 07:01:43 AM
DP,

  Thanks for taking the effort to do that!   They look great, both poses. So what are the poses in the current packs?  I had my second corps, which I think contains the new figures, painted for me, and I am not sure which is which. There are certainly some very nice advancing figures in there.  Any chance, of phots Leon?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 07 July 2011, 09:52:07 PM
The figure in the second rank is exactly what I'm looking for. I take it that it is no longer manufactured?
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 08 July 2011, 05:05:05 PM
Sorry Martyn but I don't think it is. The figures are shared with another club member, ie. he bought them several years ago and I painted them.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 08 July 2011, 07:48:09 PM
bugger!!! :(
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 10 July 2011, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: Martyn on 07 July 2011, 09:52:07 PM
The figure in the second rank is exactly what I'm looking for. I take it that it is no longer manufactured?

Unfortunately not, that was the old AU2 code.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 06:29:54 PM
Why was this historically accurate "attack pose" deleted? Seems very odd.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 11 July 2011, 07:28:09 PM
It has to be admitted that the new figures are a better sculpt, but you still have a good point there Martyn.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2011, 07:28:46 PM
It was due to new dollies having been designed, and that pose wasn't among them.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 08:13:54 PM
Surely historical research should be the backbone to any figure range rather than letting the figure designer dictate what is to be produced? Obviously there are situations when generic poses such as for ancients  as spear or javelin men etc, design freedom might be acceptable but in this case it just shows a lack of attention to detail.
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leon on 11 July 2011, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 08:13:54 PM
Surely historical research should be the backbone to any figure range rather than letting the figure designer dictate what is to be produced? Obviously there are situations when generic poses such as for ancients  as spear or javelin men etc, design freedom might be acceptable but in this case it just shows a lack of attention to detail.

It's not really a lack of attention to detail, our designer spends a huge amount of time researching every figure he does.  If I recall correctly, at the time people wanted increasingly dynamic poses, so advancing with the rifle at 45 degrees happened to be the one done.

Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 08:13:54 PM
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.

You've got two poses in the kittel troops, one in the greatcoat, plus you could use some of the new skirmishers to add more variety.  

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5886424472_9de3aa3c83.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pendraken/5886424472/)

We obviously don't want to lose a sale, but at the moment, there are very few votes for more greatcoat poses, so it doesn't look to be much of a priority for other folks.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: cameronian on 11 July 2011, 09:49:05 PM
Lighten up Martyn, its a minority period and PenD have been mighty supportive of it.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 July 2011, 10:22:15 PM
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the Saxon artillery teams to turn up.  :(
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Martyn on 12 July 2011, 07:25:56 AM
Sorry. Don't mean to be a bore!
Leon would it be possible just to up grade the old figure rather than go to the time and expense of something new?
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: maciek on 12 July 2011, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 08:13:54 PM
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.
This is why I suspended my plans for this period for a while. I will wait till more poses appear.
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: owaincaesarius on 12 July 2011, 04:58:51 PM
Advancing at 45 degrees will do for me when/if I reinforce my Kaiserliks. Would rather like to see a few wearing the fore-and-aft forage cap as well though. Maybe one of the new skirmishers could be given it?
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Leman on 13 July 2011, 06:33:28 PM
Hi everyone,
I seem to remember this old chestnut with the ACW in 15mm. Eventually Old Glory produced a right shoulder shift pack - then what happened - people wanted to produce charges, firing lines, marching columns etc. I actually like the new poses in the Austrian Greatcoat and remember back in the 60s when the only way to game this period was to endlessly convert Airfix figures. The fact that there is now a very large range of period specific mid-C19th figures is a boon and it does seem a little churlish  to be grumbling about this pose or that. I have found that with the best will in the world, when you want to put together a totally historical army, when it comes to the actual game sacrifices have to be made (not enough figures of a particular type, opponent's army not entirely accurate etc.). Perhaps nowadays we are spoilt too much with what is available and need to get some perspective on things. Remember how much companies like Pendraken and Freikorps have advanced the cause of C19th wargaming.
DP
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Shedman on 13 July 2011, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 13 July 2011, 06:33:28 PM
Remember how much companies like Pendraken and Freikorps have advanced the cause of C19th wargaming.

Absolutely - without Pendraken I'd have no 1859 or 1870 armies and without Freikorps no Maximilian Adventure
Title: Re: Austrian infantry 1866
Post by: Mulciber on 16 September 2011, 08:27:44 AM
It would be lovely to see skirmish line jaegers.