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Title: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 04 March 2011, 07:54:36 PM
Right - I'll admit it - I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm  :D

The beastmen are sorted - but I'd love to see some nastiness to go alongside them - kind of like these:

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127298/hero1.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127313/hero2.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127327/hero3.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127354/hero4.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127458/warriors1.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127475/warriors2.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/knights1.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/knights2.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord1.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord2.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/shaggoth.JPG)

The GW Chaos WM figures are OK [I used to have an army] - but they are a bit caricaturish...not to mention the stoopid price  :o

Anyone else fancy some vicious, heartless, soulless loveliness?  :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Steve J on 04 March 2011, 08:23:35 PM
Ah, I remember first seeing these at the club many years ago in your game against Dave Ley, he of the changing-rules-as-the-game-goes along fame ;). Beautiffuly painted and very characterful.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Blaker on 04 March 2011, 08:40:35 PM
Hey, add my vote  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 04 March 2011, 09:24:34 PM
Ah, I remember first seeing these at the club many years ago in your game against Dave Ley, he of the changing-rules-as-the-game-goes along fame ;). Beautiffuly painted and very characterful.

Hahaha - yep, that'd help explain why I lost  :)

Thanks for the comp  :) As I remember it, his were pretty-much just undercoated: therefore, I'm claiming a moral victory!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Maenoferren on 04 March 2011, 10:18:33 PM
I have got my Warmaster ones, but yes please to this, I need individual ones to make a mass of warriors, not static lines...
SO yes please from me :) :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: capthugeca on 04 March 2011, 10:26:31 PM
Sort of yes please too, but not to GW-y.
I'd prefer a more Moorcockian style Chaos Army a la Elric.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: clibinarium on 05 March 2011, 01:31:13 AM
The worry would be though that you might get sued on the 1:1 scale.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 05 March 2011, 08:52:11 AM
A big yes to all things Moorcock


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: GordonY on 05 March 2011, 09:36:09 AM
Yes some NOT-Chaos Warrior spiky goodness please, and some NOT-Chaos spawn, hounds Daemons etc.

Gordon


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 05 March 2011, 04:28:40 PM
Masdsive fan of Elric when i was a spottyy teenager, I'd say yes!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Squirrel on 05 March 2011, 04:38:48 PM
Rather than chaos, call them 'ornately armoured', if not too spilkey they could be used for Melnibonians, Numenoreans, and maybe even atlanteans ....... then I'd add my vote.

Cheers,

Kev


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 05 March 2011, 05:09:10 PM
The worry would be though that you might get sued on the 1:1 scale.

Yep - not copying obviously, but more the 'look' & 'feel' of Chaos-types everywhere...and not too spiky either [I took all the horns off the helmets in those 28s]


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 06 April 2011, 09:22:08 PM
You have my vote on this. Also, it would be great to add some Marauders!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 06 April 2011, 09:42:54 PM
Suggestion and votes added, although we obviously can't make Chaos Warriors.  It'd be cool to have some kind of Death Knight personality figure though.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 06 April 2011, 10:49:50 PM
Thanks Leon - I'd buy a boatload of these - both for WM mass battles, but also some for individual basing a la skirmishing: oh, and some to paint up as statues for dungeon (& other) scenery  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 11 July 2011, 07:13:41 PM
Add my vote too! to barbarian/chaos marauders/nasty tribes


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 11 July 2011, 07:19:52 PM
Sort of yes please too, but not to GW-y.
I'd prefer a more Moorcockian style Chaos Army a la Elric.

This is good.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Annatar on 11 July 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Add my vote !!!


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Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Raider4 on 12 August 2011, 10:23:02 AM
Add me too. I'd love some not-Chaos Warriors, on foot, on horse, in chariots. And some not-Daemons.

Marauders I think can probably be sourced from the historical ranges.

Cheers, Martyn
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Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 13 August 2011, 02:07:06 AM
Decent amount of interest in these it would appear...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: ianrs54 on 13 August 2011, 09:05:51 AM
And BEARS  :D

ianS


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 13 August 2011, 07:44:29 PM
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And BEARS

me too - vote for chaos warriors and bears. The goblin-wolf centaurs already in the fantasy range would fit in nicely in a chaos army


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Raider4 on 26 August 2011, 09:07:14 PM
And BEARS  :D
Having just read The Northern Lights I have a hankering for a bear. An armoured bear.

But I'd likely only want the one ...  :-<

Or maybe two - one in battered, simple armour, the other in intricate, gilded armour.

Yea for the panserbørne. Brilliant idea.

Cheers, Martyn
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Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 12 September 2011, 10:32:51 PM
I support this. if a chaos range is produced, my quest to replicate the armies of warhammer fantasy in 10mm will be completely provided for by pendraken (it probably will be anyway, but if, indeed there was a purpose built range, there would be much less dependancy on my novice painting and conversion skills)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 13 September 2011, 12:34:49 AM
I`d kill for a Chaos collection in this scale.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 13 September 2011, 02:19:51 AM
a follower of Khorne (or for that matter any of the chaos Gods) would kill for much less then such a gift from the heavens.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 13 September 2011, 10:33:41 PM
I`d kill for a Chaos collection in this scale.

Likewise...that was priced sensibly of course & not the daftness of GW  :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 14 September 2011, 08:58:44 PM
Ooooooh..... Chaos (sorry..NOT chaos)....
Just my cup of tea....

Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 14 September 2011, 09:11:18 PM
Eithe Morecock flavoured Chaos (Pan Tang anyone) or Khaos - Nemesis the Warlock flavour please...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 15 September 2011, 09:58:44 AM
Hmmm...
I fancy a go at one of these ....What sort of scale ?
How tall should these chappies be to the eyes....and the top of the head ?
See if I can fit one in.

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 15 September 2011, 05:29:18 PM
this video should give you the idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3pOljQqvX8 if you notice they are both taller and wider then the Empire soldgiers


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 15 September 2011, 07:34:16 PM
They do look quite distinctive, so we'd have to look at doing a cool looking Knight with accentuated armour and oversized weaponry?   ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 08:46:15 PM

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if you notice they are both taller and wider then the Empire soldgiers

 
again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 15 September 2011, 09:21:17 PM
My view of Chaos Warriors will forever by in the early 80s as per this boxed set

(http://www.solegends.com/citboxes/c2s1chaoswarriorsx.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 09:30:09 PM
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My view of Chaos Warriors will forever by in the early 80s as per this boxed set


Wow, I have those fred. yes, when I think of Chaos warriors, many many things come to mind before I pick up the present GW accepted status quo image.

The ones you show here fred, are exactly the kind of guys I`m thinking about in my minds eye.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Nico on 15 September 2011, 09:41:32 PM

again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?



Kovav showed us how GW marauders/chaos knights look like - I think this is okay :) - but you're having a point, of course, six. It would be way more interesting to create something unaffiliated and self-reliant.

On the other hand, the different releases/versions of GW chaos warriors where created by various designers and influenced by several media throughout the years, decades even. There's other companies than GW too, naturally. So there is some kind of design history (including customer feedback etc.) you shouldn't completely overlook I say.

If you ask me, there are some attributes you might want to describe as typical for the generic "chaos warrior stereotype", such as:

- tall
- bulky
- heavy armor
- large weapons
- complete face hidden beneath a helmet
- sometimes horns, sometimes spikes, sometimes skulls or skull ornaments

rest is individual flavour or style.

By the way - since the fantasy (especially the dungeon) range is still quite in it's baby shoes, wouldn't it be fun to have a forum section or at least thread, to discuss if and how there should be an individual Pendraken style which marks at least some "sub-ranges" as Pendraken ?

I wouldn't want to limit the sculptors either, but maybe this is possible. just a thought.

Cheers, Nico


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 15 September 2011, 11:19:16 PM
For me I think of Moorcock and Melnibone, which I see as in relation to the current fantasy range slightly spikier versions of the high elves with big dragons & riders. Perhaps less barding on horses, and did I mention the dragons...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 15 September 2011, 11:39:18 PM
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Kovav showed us how GW marauders/chaos knights look like - I think this is okay - but you're having a point, of course, six. It would be way more interesting to create something unaffiliated and self-reliant.

On the other hand, the different releases/versions of GW chaos warriors where created by various designers and influenced by several media throughout the years, decades even. There's other companies than GW too, naturally. So there is some kind of design history (including customer feedback etc.) you shouldn't completely overlook I say.

Of course Nico, I totally see your point, and as I always say, at the end of the day it’s all down to personal choice really. I think I was trying to steer a course away from `specifically ‘ the GW vision of things, maybe to look beyond that to other options; but I do think I`m probably flogging  a dead horse here, as the images almost set down in stone by the primogenitor of it all is an enduring and alluring temptation many will find hard to deviate from, almost as an institutional psyche at this stage and almost three decades down the road.

Bottom line is, I guess.... I`d just know I`d be bl**y happy to see any Chaos warriors in the 10mm range, what ever design stance they ultimately take  :)


Six  :)




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 15 September 2011, 11:48:29 PM

again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?

Go back to the original novels and interpret afresh, don't be a sheep, how about a Jerry Cornelius type figure as well?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Nico on 15 September 2011, 11:52:03 PM
Bottom line is, I guess.... I`d just know I`d be bl**y happy to see any Chaos warriors in the 10mm range, what ever design stance they ultimately take  :)

True - Let's see what Techno comes up with.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 12:18:29 AM
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Go back to the original novels and interpret afresh, don't be a sheep, how about a Jerry Cornelius type figure as well?


Ooooh, now that would be something worth waiting to see   :)





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Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 16 September 2011, 12:21:49 AM

again, without wanting to sound or be in any way obtuse, but... is this about making a new range of generic looking Pendraken Chaos warriors, or trying to mimic Games Workshops very specific idea of Chaos troops which were invented to be a part of their own world?



I support divirsity and creativity, I was simpy pointing out how GW makes them. I was mistaken though by implying that that was THE way to make them. I too will be very, very happy to see any kind of Chaos warriors.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 12:38:57 AM
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I support divirsity and creativity, I was simpy pointing out how GW makes them. I was mistaken though by implying that that was THE way to make them. I too will be very, very happy to see any kind of Chaos warriors.

Gosh NO Kovov, I don`t think you were wrong at all. Sometimes I come across as very firm and single minded in my views (bloody minded some might say hehe) but I totally do see where you are coming from - as well as other valued points of view from others. For me, I`m just trying to open the view a little to see if there is a shared collective wider than the more obvious. I LOVE the stereotypical Chaos type dude as much as the next person, and would probably be first in the line to purchase a legion of them for my own games. I suppose I have images of the movie Excalibur, Flesh and Blood (and recently Ironclad); and books like Elrik flaoting around in my mind as viable alternatives hehe.

I LOVE all these comments... it really makes me think. And occasionally I get de-railed and I find myself taking new lines of thought I`d never ever considred as others show me alternative possibilities.

Its all good stuff.

Six :)



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 16 September 2011, 08:50:07 AM
For me I think of Moorcock and Melnibone, which I see as in relation to the current fantasy range slightly spikier versions of the high elves with big dragons & riders. Perhaps less barding on horses, and did I mention the dragons...

That's how I see Chaos as well, unless it's Khaos form Nemesis the Warlock from the Alan Moore period of 2000AD (which was far more, erm... Grilby)

Sandinista, you forgot to metion the Dragons, or the Dragons!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 10:53:28 AM
*chuckles at Lemmy*

mmmm yes, Moorcock Chaos - almost elfen like and fey, delicate silver tongued Melnibone knights with an almost  feminine contradiction about them (Slanesh)... yet oh so very dark and evil.

Hmmm, nice image. I could work with that   :-\




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: capthugeca on 16 September 2011, 12:15:41 PM
I use these for my 15mm HOTT Chaos Warriors:-

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/capthugeca/Hordes%20of%20the%20Things/Chaos/ChaosWarband.jpg)

They are too big for 10mm (standing about 17mm) but are, I think, sufficiently un/like GW's to be usable.

I like Moorcock's idea of Chaos but don't look upon Melniboneans as Chaotic - more utterly amoral and so happy to call upon Chaos or Law and I'm happy to use Dark Elves for that.
To me a Moorcockian Chaos army would be more what Prince Gaynor led.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 01:26:27 PM
hmmmm, yes you are dead right there aren`t you capthugeca. I DO like your minis, really tasty.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 16 September 2011, 04:46:22 PM
Now Prince Gaynor's army would be fun   :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 16 September 2011, 09:47:18 PM
Hmmm, yes. Prince Gaynor's Hell-Horde of Chaos would be a nice idea.

There is already an ideal mini to represent Queen Xiombarg.

I guess you could then add Conan and Elrik to the mix.

Nice idea  :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: capthugeca on 16 September 2011, 10:44:49 PM
I guess you could then add Conan and Elrik to the mix.


Do you mean Corum?

And what about the Grande Bretagne Empire from the Runestaff Chronicles?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 16 September 2011, 11:15:07 PM
Hmm, tricky one for me this.  I'm not at all a fan of the oversized weapon, stupidly large helmeted, chaos spiky bits look of GW's chaos.  I like weapons and armour to be in sensible proportions and look actually functional!  (I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;) )

My personal favourite take of chaos is Glorantha, where you have chaotic races (nicely covered by the beestmen, haedusmen and the like), but where generally there's no such thing as a GW chaos warrior type.

What I'd like to see are some generic medieval types to match the slightly larger scale of the fantasy figures including (to bring it back on-topic) "knights of dark and light".

The dark knights would have the traditional skull/evil face shields, bony/organic/gothic armour, etc, but more anti-paladin/undead knight types than chaos warriors per se.

Conversely, the knights of light would be your paladin types, with crosses on shields, clean-cut lines, etc. 

Anyway, just my tuppence worth  ;)

Meirion


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 17 September 2011, 03:24:12 PM
Eeeeek !

I'm going to have my work cut out to hopefully please everybody ! ;D ;D....But I'll see what I can come up with. ;)
The most important thing from a starting point of view for me is going to be the scale...

As I write, I haven't got any of the current Pendraken fantasy range..(Tho' Leon's promised me a few samples very soon.)
If I understand correctly from what forum members have said....The Fantasy models are a bit larger....Anyone fancy telling me by how much ?

I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?

(Ideally figures standing almost upright would be the best...says Mr Fussy....But that'll give me the size of the 'dolly' I'll need to start with.)

Hope the above makes some sort of sense...

Cheers - Phil.





Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 17 September 2011, 10:43:13 PM
Eeeeek !

I'm going to have my work cut out to hopefully please everybody ! ;D ;D....But I'll see what I can come up with. ;)
The most important thing from a starting point of view for me is going to be the scale...

As I write, I haven't got any of the current Pendraken fantasy range..(Tho' Leon's promised me a few samples very soon.)
If I understand correctly from what forum members have said....The Fantasy models are a bit larger....Anyone fancy telling me by how much ?

I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?

(Ideally figures standing almost upright would be the best...says Mr Fussy....But that'll give me the size of the 'dolly' I'll need to start with.)

Hope the above makes some sort of sense...

Cheers - Phil.

This one is the best I can remember from my previous searches (from http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/10mm-pendraken-miniatures-fantasy/heroes_1/ )

(http://ewigeheld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/heroes_1.jpg?w=949)

Most of the figures are historical, however the two guys in cloaks are wood elves and the two bare armed/chested guys are barbarians.  The striking thing is how much taller the elves look than the figure with the blue staff even though they are behind him.

Although these are all fantasy, the barbarian chieftain at the top of the stairs is closer to the historic scale than the others.  His head only comes up to the shoulders of the barbarian swordsman on the bottom right of the picture.
(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/P1010116a.jpg)

Whilst searching for images I found my own comment on the subject (with the photo below) in this thread: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2848.0

(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8871/08032008182511en0.jpg)

The skeleton far left is Pendraken fantasy, whilst the wizard is Merlin from ARL18 Late Roman Personalities.  (From http://aportodos.mforos.com/1354550/7782193-10mm-pendraken-vs-kallistra/ )


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 17 September 2011, 10:57:08 PM
Just spotted this one from http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2009/05/10-mm-scale-comparison-among.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rp6_kYbaGwI/Sf8ks2ulWMI/AAAAAAAAAMc/9hiTEhCc10I/s320/P5040010.JPG)

Another Arthurian Personality/Skeleton combo on the right.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 17 September 2011, 11:30:27 PM
I like GW Chaos - like these...from my start of this thread  :P

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127276/heroes.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127458/warriors1.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/1214127475/warriors2.JPG)

(http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/f/lord1.JPG)

Having said that, it'd be nice to see anything that's evil & intimidating & looming & enigmatic & dark...and with some female sexy-ness as well...

No pressure then Techno  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 18 September 2011, 08:27:50 AM

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Do you mean Corum?


Naaaaa!! Marval did a few Conan and Elrik crossovers.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 18 September 2011, 12:46:22 PM
Brilliant stuff guys..Much appreciated!! :-bd

Sooooo....Basically a head taller than a historical figure....
Pressure....What pressure ?..... ;D ;D...I'll sort something out !

I'll start popping up piccys once I've got something on the go...or near to completion, but there are some other projects that are higher priority to do first.  ( No clues...or guessing.) ;)
But I'll do odd models as 'fillers' as i progress.

Then I'll wait for the flack ! ;D

Cheers - Phil.....(Who....if he was better at finding his way around sites with a bit more competence would have been able to find the stuff for himself. !.....Mind you..It would have probably taken me about a week...So many thanks again.)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: OldenBUA on 18 September 2011, 12:57:11 PM

I could really do with a comparison shot of a 'human' figure from both the fantasy range and any historical range standing next to each other.... Any chance guys ?


A comparison shot with some medieval types on the left, a wood elf in the centre, and barbarians and an amazon on the right. Most noticable is the amazon on the extreme right, these are strapping lasses!

Otherwise, the 'a head taller' doesn't apply, I would say. The fantasy ones are bigger, but only a little. Oh, and if you would like some other comparison shots with other figures, just ask!

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u26/OldenBUA/Other%20stuff/Fantasy-1.jpg)

Note: All sadly untouched, but not unloved, I can assure you!



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 18 September 2011, 01:00:30 PM
Shes a big lass on the end there...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: OldenBUA on 18 September 2011, 01:02:16 PM
Shes a big lass on the end there...

Maybe they grow em big in the Boro? I heard the Amazons were modelled on these. Or maybe they were referring to something else...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: capthugeca on 18 September 2011, 02:52:47 PM

Naaaaa!! Marval did a few Conan and Elrik crossovers.

 :o
 >:(
Sacrilege!   [-(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 18 September 2011, 03:17:33 PM
It could have been worse, it could have been DC comics!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sixsideddice on 18 September 2011, 03:39:36 PM
 =O  agreed.


..... but


........  I read a few of them, and was surprised. They`re not half bad actually  :-SS


don`t hit me  :-B


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 18 September 2011, 04:14:47 PM


A comparison shot with some medieval types on the left, a wood elf in the centre, and barbarians and an amazon on the right. Most noticable is the amazon on the extreme right, these are strapping lasses!

Otherwise, the 'a head taller' doesn't apply, I would say. The fantasy ones are bigger, but only a little. Oh, and if you would like some other comparison shots with other figures, just ask!

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u26/OldenBUA/Other%20stuff/Fantasy-1.jpg)

Note: All sadly untouched, but not unloved, I can assure you!



Hmmm....

Thanks for that 'Olden'....A good bit clearer from an eye level perspective...
More like half a head(ish) taller would seem nearer the mark to me ??

Cheers - Phil....(And thanks for the offer of other shots....May take you up on that !)




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 18 September 2011, 05:49:58 PM
Maybe they grow em big in the Boro? I heard the Amazons were modelled on these.

If they were modelled on the average Boro lass, they'd be wider than they are tall...  :o  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 18 September 2011, 08:21:48 PM
from a GW-esque stand point, the barbs can easily be maruaders. the amazons and easily be slaneshee demons. what I really, really want is super armored, huge, badass juggernaut knights of evil. they dont have to chaos. but they do have to badass. KHORNE


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: capthugeca on 18 September 2011, 08:34:03 PM
That is one scary woman!  :-S

If they were modelled on the average Boro lass, they'd be wider than they are tall...  :o  :D

And I thought that the Spartans had it hard.
Hats off to you, Leon.

I'm glad I'm a southern softie!  #:-S


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 20 September 2011, 11:22:00 PM
Hmmm....

Thanks for that 'Olden'....A good bit clearer from an eye level perspective...
More like half a head(ish) taller would seem nearer the mark to me ??

Cheers - Phil....(And thanks for the offer of other shots....May take you up on that !)

Just a thought, but if it is badass chaos warriors you're sculpting then they probably ought to be more on a par with the amazon heroin/head taller than a mere half-head.  After all, they are supposed to be big, hulking and scary.

Cheers!

Meirion


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 26 September 2011, 11:04:56 PM
Just a thought, but if it is badass chaos warriors you're sculpting then they probably ought to be more on a par with the amazon heroin/head taller than a mere half-head.  After all, they are supposed to be big, hulking and scary.

Cheers!

Meirion

here here! huge chaos warrior kick ass!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 01 October 2011, 12:20:55 PM
Could be something like the dudes from the Conan film (jhon millus one) who raid the conan village at the first sequence of the film.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 01 October 2011, 01:18:29 PM
Could be something like the dudes from the Conan film (jhon millus one) who raid the conan village at the first sequence of the film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_OkMan3kkM

From about 6 mins in...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 01 October 2011, 03:51:17 PM
I find it best just to post images when comes to movies. less chance to get cockblocked


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 19 October 2011, 07:21:21 PM
If they sculpt a good range of chaos warriors and cavalry I would purchase several packs to build a warmaster chaos army  :d I'll stay tuned on this thread


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 21 October 2011, 04:17:23 AM
All votes added!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 24 October 2011, 08:05:37 PM
Good good  :) gosh, haven't finished my undead army and thinking about a chaos one...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 27 October 2011, 08:53:48 AM
damm I can't edit... is any sculptor working on this request? :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 27 October 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Nothing yet.  It does have a good number of votes, but it's not something we're looking at adding to the ranges at the moment.  I think Techno mentioned having a go at something, but just as a test piece I think.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 03 November 2011, 09:17:11 AM
Can I vote twice?  :D
What I'd love to see is something as much as similar to this one:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Rp6_kYbaGwI/S9X5NUJlrxI/AAAAAAAAAoo/OwAGq7_yaiA/s1600/P4260004.JPG)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: GordonY on 03 November 2011, 06:25:17 PM
I'd buy a shedload of those, but on principle refuse to go near the Evil Empires products.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 03 November 2011, 06:41:55 PM
Is that the principle where to field a full Necron Flayed Ones unit of 20 models is going to cost you £80?



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 03 November 2011, 07:26:17 PM
I want them at Pendraken prices and individually based.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 03 November 2011, 08:50:53 PM
Blacksmith - can you tell me what figures those are in the two back ranks that are unarmoured and have swords and spears? (the unit that seems to be led by beastmen). Unless i'm not making the photo out right, they look like they'd make decent wood elf wardancers.

Or are they the Eureka miniatures ones, which are great designs, but unfortunately far too f*$£%ing wee and small beside other 10/12mm figures (they look like halflings/hobbits or 6mm scale beside them) ?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 03 November 2011, 09:12:55 PM
Blacksmith - can you tell me what figures those are in the two back ranks that are unarmoured and have swords and spears? (the unit that seems to be led by beastmen). Unless i'm not making the photo out right, they look like they'd make decent wood elf wardancers.

Or are they the Eureka miniatures ones, which are great designs, but unfortunately far too f*$£%ing wee and small beside other 10/12mm figures (they look like halflings/hobbits or 6mm scale beside them) ?
They are 10mm satyrs from Eureka. You can see them individually at my blog: http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/tiny-sacred-band-ii.html (http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/tiny-sacred-band-ii.html)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 03 November 2011, 09:16:13 PM
Thanks Blacksmith. I have a plan! Buy 10mm Eureka satyrs, chop them in half at the waist. Buy 10mm celts/viking berserkers from some company, chop them in half at the waist. Glue and or pin the top halves of the satyrs onto the bottom halves of the Celts/vikings - viola - wardancers.

As 3rd stage could cut off satyrs' heads and replace with some elf or celt heads.

I wonder if Dacian infanty with falx could be converted/painted to make decent wardancers too.

EDIT: on second thoughts all that sounds like too much work - will just use some Pendraken barbarians from the fantasy range and maybe some Dacian falxmen and put on celtic and American Indian style hair-dos with some green putty.

P.S This is NOT me cancelling my vote for the wood elf figures in the other thread


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 15 November 2011, 10:03:48 PM
It's a pity to check like twice a week if there is any change in the chaos range of pendraken... don't forget the fantasy adepts!!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: KOVAV on 17 November 2011, 05:09:30 PM
dont worry, for if we continue to post and keep this thread alive, one day, one day that's not too far from today, pendraken shall make chaos warriors, and they shall be awesome, for unlike some companies, pendraken gives a damn about its customers wants. :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 30 January 2012, 07:10:52 PM
I still... have some hope to see this for 2012  ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 30 January 2012, 08:43:51 PM
I'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... ;)
Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 30 January 2012, 11:08:18 PM
Quote
I'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... Wink
Cheers - Phil

hurray - thanks for starting it!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 30 January 2012, 11:14:03 PM
Agreed - looking forward to some pics at some point Phil  ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 30 January 2012, 11:30:19 PM
I'm still playing with a test piece.....But you can't see him yet as his sword really DOES look like a banana at the mo'...and he's only about two thirds done... ;)
Cheers - Phil



Wooh good! I'm going to subscribe to this thread :)

What shall we expect? Armoured with big weapons? :D spikes, skulls, anything that would cause insane fear? Heheh


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 31 January 2012, 08:26:20 AM
I'll try and neaten up his sword....Then I can at least post a Wip..... ;)
But I've really got to press on with other pieces at the moment....Sorry....See what I can do though.
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 06 February 2012, 12:57:34 PM
I'll try and neaten up his sword....Then I can at least post a Wip..... ;)
But I've really got to press on with other pieces at the moment....Sorry....See what I can do though.
Cheers - Phil

I'll be waiting to see that WIP  :) thanks for posting in here


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 06 February 2012, 06:46:11 PM
Hopefully not too long kerath....But it'll only be about two thirds done by the time I get a chance to take a piccy !.....
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 01 March 2012, 03:54:23 PM
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4240.jpg)
Not a very good pic (as usual...HAH !)

But from L/R....The original 'Colin'.....The new Colin (needing some cleaning up)...and a couple of early Wips of new Falkland's troops for scaling.
Can't see me ever doing any more to Colin Mk 1......Time for the circular file ! ;D ;D ;D.....Hey Ho ! ;)
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 01 March 2012, 05:10:55 PM
Big and mean, I like it, especially the armour. I hope you'll make some other with human face?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Squirrel on 01 March 2012, 05:20:33 PM
Excellent Phil  :-bd

Cheers,

Kev


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Annatar on 01 March 2012, 05:23:32 PM
Thumbs UP!!!  :-bd


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 01 March 2012, 05:32:47 PM
Big and mean, I like it, especially the armour. I hope you'll make some other with human face?

With all of the other stuff still to do...I'll probably do some quick conversions on this particular chappie before I try and make a completely 'fresh' figure.
Bit of a cop out I know....But it means more variations at a faster pace....If that makes sense.
Glad you all like it.(So far  ;))...Thanks guys !
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 01 March 2012, 07:48:56 PM
Like it Phil - I'd like some more with human faces & less daemonic appendages too...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry  :d :D :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 01 March 2012, 07:56:01 PM
Like it Phil - I'd like some more with human faces & less daemonic appendages too...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry  :d :D :d
Exactly!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 01 March 2012, 09:16:38 PM
Cool, looks just ready for a Doctor Who episode!!

Evil knights would be cool, rather than strange Chaotic mutations


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 01 March 2012, 09:36:37 PM
Your wish....... ;)
I'll see what I can come up with.
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Nosher on 01 March 2012, 10:56:19 PM
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4240.jpg)
and a couple of early Wips of new Falkland's troops for scaling.

Back on a favourite topic... ;) Falklands - really looking forward to these later this year.

The figure third from left in the photo - beret overhang is HUGE. Only STAB's would have this much hanging below the ear. Looks a bit odd (sorry)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 02 March 2012, 06:19:06 AM
Hi Nosher.
The Falklands 'bods' in the pic are still very much Wips.....Of the ones on the go at the mo', I know I'm going to have to tweak the berets....they're almost all on the overlarge side....especially the one you've spotted.
Don't worry.....They'll look much better when they're finished..(Nurse...scalpel and glass paper please  ;))..I only put them there to show how much bigger Colin was than the 'normal' human.
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 02 March 2012, 10:04:58 AM
I like the fig! But I have to suscribe that human faces or helmet-covered faces for chaos are better.

By the way, specially the legs you've modelled are just AWESOME


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 02 March 2012, 11:43:08 AM
Face first I reckon...Much easier to convert that to a helm of some sort  ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 02 March 2012, 05:44:27 PM
Yeah techno this bad dude seems great


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 02 March 2012, 06:38:28 PM
Thanks 'J'.
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: wonderer18 on 13 March 2012, 07:54:17 AM
The man looks impressive !. I cann't wait to see his buddies as well . I would certainly buy some . Add my vote please .

Stuart


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 13 March 2012, 09:50:30 AM
I've got a friend for Colin 'on the go'....But he's only a 'stick man' dolly at the mo'...so there's no point in posting a piccy just yet. ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 14 March 2012, 10:53:10 PM
I've got a friend for Colin 'on the go'....But he's only a 'stick man' dolly at the mo'...so there's no point in posting a piccy just yet. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Tease... ;) :P


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Legate on 15 March 2012, 04:11:32 AM
"I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm "

Unfortunately, I believe they are under the Chaos part of the Warmaster catalog on GW site.  Which means you'll be paying through the nose for them.

Nicely done Chaos Warriors!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 15 March 2012, 07:55:06 AM
Tease... ;) :P

No Nik....Honestly...He's just a stick man at present.....Surrounded by lots of Falkland's bods !..I will post when there's something to see !
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 16 March 2012, 09:35:11 PM
"I love my GW Chaos Warrior & Beastman army...I love it so much I'd like to replicate it in 10mm "

Unfortunately, I believe they are under the Chaos part of the Warmaster catalog on GW site.  Which means you'll be paying through the nose for them.
Ah you misunderstand me - I mean that I want Pendraken chaos loveliness, not that over-priced, over-spiked GW stuff
 


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 16 March 2012, 09:37:08 PM
No Nik....Honestly...He's just a stick man at present.....Surrounded by lots of Falkland's bods !..I will post when there's something to see !
Cheers - Phil

Ah well - at least he's in good company  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: wonderer18 on 17 March 2012, 12:37:42 PM
you could call them undead lords , or something similar ?.

Stuart


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Annatar on 17 March 2012, 01:09:34 PM
or:

=>totally insane nightmare-fighters of the barren wastes   :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 17 March 2012, 01:55:34 PM
I'm quite fond of how I described them earlier in this thread  :d

...just pure evil human Chaotic bastardry  :d :D :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 28 July 2012, 02:39:32 PM
Did anything come of that model?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 28 July 2012, 06:20:23 PM
Yup !
I've taken his crab claw off and given him a 'normal arm'.
At the mo' he's just sitting on the desk getting covered in dust and cat fur. ;D ;D
Falkland's bods have taken priority for now.
Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 28 July 2012, 08:15:57 PM
So if I wanted to place an order, would it be possible (good move taking the claw off! I imagine a unit with crab claws looking odd)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 28 July 2012, 09:04:27 PM
He doesn't exist as a metal yet V.
But if Leon wants to press him....I'll send him up next week with all the other figures that are due to go.
Save him getting covered in yet more dust. ;D
Don't worry Leon...Same deal as Kiera and 'Jim'  ;).....After all, I was just doing it as an experiment.

Cheers - Phil.




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 29 July 2012, 01:09:43 AM
Thanks! Can we see a pic?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 11:44:37 AM
I'll try and pop one up a little later. ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 04:04:37 PM
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4475.jpg)

Here you go !
Only taken me five attempts to get this pic to stop taking up half a page !  >:( ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: GordonY on 29 July 2012, 05:07:21 PM
better iffen you'd left it at half a page, that piccy is tiny.  :P


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 29 July 2012, 05:08:44 PM
Only taken me five attempts to get this pic to stop taking up half a page !  >:( ;)

If the pic is too big for the page, I can always make it smaller for you, that's no bother at all.  I can't make a little pic bigger though unfortunately, as it just pixelates.

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 06:45:32 PM
I'll see if I can rescue one of the 'pre edited' pics, and bung it up to you direct Leon.  :-[

Sorry Gordon...I HATE seeing the tiny chaps blown up way too big ! ;)

Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 29 July 2012, 06:57:30 PM
Just get it on man! Stop teasing  =)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: dicehead on 29 July 2012, 07:02:01 PM
Fantastic looking sculpt, I think I'm going to use that guy as a wight though, he totally looks the part.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 07:46:32 PM
I've just sent that awfully nice Mr Leon a larger file than the one that was my own pathetic attempt. :-[
I've said it umpteen times before....Sometimes I can get photobucket to do what I want....Other times I almost lose the will to live ! ;)
Cheers - Mr Hopeless !




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: republic of tolworth on 29 July 2012, 07:50:56 PM
Have you tried sobbing and randomly hitting the keyboard with your forehead?

Or is that just me  :-[


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 07:54:25 PM
Have you tried sobbing and randomly hitting the keyboard with your forehead?

Yes !!.....I also use very harsh language...That doesn't seem to work either !
And no...It's not just you !  :'( :'(
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 29 July 2012, 07:58:45 PM
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Forum%20Stuff/IMGP4475.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 29 July 2012, 09:12:46 PM
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Forum%20Stuff/IMGP4475.jpg)

Horny old b@$tard eh?  ;) :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Thanks for doing that Leon !!
What are you trying to say Nik ? ;) ;D
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 29 July 2012, 09:31:30 PM
Cool figure! I can see that being used in a lot of different forces. Chaos and undead- also dungeons will need him!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 29 July 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Spot on! Thanks Tec/Leon

It looks mint! Perfect for a chaos/undead chapion/hero/lord

Infact... Ain't that him from heman?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Not supposed to be anything in particular V !
Just the way it turned out.
With a figure like 'Colin', I just make it up as I go along....Which is why he had a crab claw to start with....But that didn't 'look right', hence the change to a normal arm.
He's just a conglomeration of bits that I hoped would work OK l.

Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Squirrel on 30 July 2012, 07:50:29 AM
Very cool indeed Phil 8) Definitely has uses as a Wight with the skull face .... Perhaps a couple of variants with different helms and weapons  :D

Cheers,

Kev


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2012, 08:15:17 AM
Perhaps a couple of variants with different helms and weapons  :D
Cheers,
Kev

That's the plan Kev... ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Annatar on 31 July 2012, 05:53:33 AM
Great Mini! Please get it casted as soon as possible  :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 03 August 2012, 03:23:26 PM
You know...i really can't think of another manufacturer that does this sort of thing.

Punter:  'Hey' i'd kind of like X...'

Sculpter: *fiddlefiddlefiddle* 'How's that?'

Manufacturer: *adminadmincastcast* 'There you go punter'

Other punters: 'Oooh...me too please!  And could you just do one with fish gills on?'

Sculpter: *fiddlefiddlefiddle*

Etc.

Ruddy marvellous chaps!

Well done to all concerned.

Nice genericevilbadguy dude too... :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 03 August 2012, 04:27:32 PM
 ;)
(Fiddle, fiddle, fiddle.... ;D ;D ;D)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 03 August 2012, 04:30:15 PM
Techno-fiddle - a new folk music/dance craze?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:32:53 PM
Techno-fiddle - a new folk music/dance craze?

Anything like Trance-Guitar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U0yJppFYGA

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:42:06 PM
Hahaha - just found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjRmF5gUoTA


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 03 August 2012, 04:48:12 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ?  ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:54:53 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ?  ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkO7W3RoZo8

Happy Friday  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:56:04 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ?  ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdW9dhlxRww


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:57:09 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ?  ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTI2Ywk2l8


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Where's the Techno 'Putty' Mix ?  ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN3tcnqAPPE


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 03 August 2012, 07:37:28 PM
I shouldn't have asked, should I ? ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 03 August 2012, 10:19:23 PM
Not on a Friday, no... :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 04 August 2012, 09:52:14 PM
I like it, but its like a hero or something! I don't see it as a unit that you can use as a basic unit in an army :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 05 August 2012, 12:13:57 PM
I like it, but its like a hero or something! I don't see it as a unit that you can use as a basic unit in an army :)

Fair comment K, but it was intended to be more of a 'character' figure than a unit style chappie.
Perhaps a 'commander' of some sort ?
Might work a bit better when I've converted him a couple (or more) times ? ;)
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 07 August 2012, 06:59:12 PM
Was thinking about putting some shield in the back to hide this part...

EDIT : (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562848_10151056230044463_1249991559_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 07 August 2012, 08:36:34 PM
Coool as!   8) Think you've 'nailed' it with that one!  :P


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sebigboss79 on 07 August 2012, 09:21:53 PM
my next army I guess..... :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: dicehead on 07 August 2012, 09:43:09 PM
Same here! Great stuff.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 07 August 2012, 10:27:05 PM
Coool as!   8) Think you've 'nailed' it with that one!  :P

That's an appalling pun Lemmey ! ;D ;D
A shield ? :-\.....I think that would work OK.

Don't know how you work holding a nail 'B'....Have you tried pushing the wire into a wine cork ? (Make a couple of pin holes first if you need to) Much more comfortable to push putty around holding that, than something as thin as a nail, I would have thought.
Great stuff !
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 08 August 2012, 02:06:28 AM
These are long nails : 65 mm long.
I use champagne cork for 28 mm tough.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394509_10151056978509463_2048342754_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 08 August 2012, 07:38:59 AM
I like these dudes


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 08 August 2012, 07:54:52 AM
Very VERY nice ! :-bd =D>
Like them lots !
Shield has worked perfectly.
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 08 August 2012, 10:01:58 AM
Very good, I like these


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 08 August 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Me too - very nicely done  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 08 August 2012, 10:30:46 PM
Very nicely done Barbarian.

I especially like the axe dude, with his 'advancing like he means business' pose.   :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 09 August 2012, 09:24:10 PM
Hi all, I've just been into Pendraken's secret lab... (Just off the A66!) and my mate Ant piked up his tiny scale war hammer Dark elf army and I got my chaos mortal force.

I'm using European Late Medieval Knights on foot as my main warriors (with some random models for my command) and they look like the WHF 5th ed chaos warriors without the S***e looking hump they used to have. Although I do need to add the coffin lid shaped shields myself. I believe I'll use plasticised for this.

One unit will be chosen Nurlge so im going to green stuff bloated belly's and such on them.

My mounted knights are also European Late Medieval, who will also need shields.

I have, wooded chariots (leon, what are they from?) both will get warriors put on them and one will be pulled by giant rats an the other by some discussing looking slug things (I'm doing Nurlge)
Note to leon: They arrived in the post, thanks mate!

My Maraurders are just from the Barbarian range. I must say, the bezerkers... They have there c**ks out! I'm not shy but how can an enemy fight them? I couldn't fight a nude bloke... So it could be an advantage ;)

My furries are some sort of winged creature with a squid face, a very Nurlge looking furrie indeed.

Finally, my Sorcerer will be mounted on a Tenticled Bahemoth as a demonic mount.

I should get them glued this Sunday and I'll post some WIP pics.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 09 August 2012, 09:28:50 PM
I have, wooded chariots (leon, what are they from?) both will get warriors put on them and one will be pulled by giant rats an the other by some discussing looking slug things (I'm doing Nurlge)
Note to leon: They arrived in the post, thanks mate!

Good to hear they arrived, the chariots are from the Goblin range, code FG5.

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 09 August 2012, 09:43:58 PM
Cool. Thanks!

You don't do some tiny little shield do you?

(I know this is a for a request for a different thread, but if you made a unit of Romans in Tortoise formation I would now be doing a 3rd system using your models!)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 10 August 2012, 12:09:47 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293045_10151061227449463_1353869818_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 10 August 2012, 12:16:36 AM
Cool. Thanks!

You don't do some tiny little shield do you?

(I know this is a for a request for a different thread, but if you made a unit of Romans in Tortoise formation I would now be doing a 3rd system using your models!)

I've got some bits and bobs hidden in various master moulds, I need to get them all cast up and stick them in a production mould.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 10 August 2012, 08:49:42 PM
Some more absolute beauties there Barbarian!   =D>


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 10 August 2012, 11:16:25 PM
Some more absolute beauties there Barbarian!   =D>

Agreed, they are making me worry what mine will turn out like.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 11 August 2012, 06:17:23 AM
I'm still astounded by the way B makes his 'frame'.
Extremely effective though ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 11 August 2012, 05:16:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/480075_10151064855464463_603101766_n.jpg)


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182137_10151064855304463_2069968855_n.jpg)


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526972_10151064838929463_61808753_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 11 August 2012, 05:47:02 PM
I'm ok at green stuff at 25mm, and I mean OK... But 10mm, and you sir are amazing. do you do this as just a hobby?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 11 August 2012, 06:43:29 PM
Blimey!

I might be accepting that proposal!! ( don't tell my wife  ;) )


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Annatar on 12 August 2012, 07:30:35 AM
Thanks for posting the pictures !!!

Makes me looking for some wire and greenstuff....  :)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: robert on 12 August 2012, 08:11:46 AM
Fascinating - must admit I had no idea how the figures were created.  Thank you very much for posting the sequence - we learn something every day on this forum!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 13 August 2012, 12:53:12 PM
Not satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?

As for my sculpting, I'm trying to make a living of it.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226365_10151068862219463_1486153439_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: i_am_win on 13 August 2012, 02:59:50 PM
I must say, love the sculpting, very old school chaos of the GW kind!  8)
Are these going to be made and available?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 13 August 2012, 03:50:28 PM
I like a lot! Lovely animation to these!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 14 August 2012, 07:19:57 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319355_10151071807999463_1413757158_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: sebigboss79 on 14 August 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Any idea when they will be released??  :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 14 August 2012, 07:38:18 PM
These are excellent Fantasy Teutonic Knights... the weapons are a little on the large side though.

(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/225/e/7/Teutonic_Knights_WIP_by_Ifckdyogurlfrend.jpg)

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1/101175-King_Teutonic1_super.jpg)

(http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/4780/0000002601.800x600.jpg)


Any idea when they will be released??  :-\

We need to work out if they're for us first!  Barbarian has done some bits and bobs for us previously, so we'll have a chat and see if we can work something out.

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 14 August 2012, 08:04:35 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319355_10151071807999463_1413757158_n.jpg)

Daiklaive!!!!


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs618.snc4/59852_1531806488925_1047659126_1552238_2677417_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: dicehead on 14 August 2012, 08:22:15 PM
I hope they do go into production, they're great. I'd be happy to pre-order or pledge a minimum order on them if that helps. Maybe other people would be interested in doing the same?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 14 August 2012, 09:51:14 PM
Leon, you're a genius at naming things.  :P


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 14 August 2012, 11:56:54 PM
Leon, you're a genius at naming things.  :P

 :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Matt J on 15 August 2012, 10:03:02 AM
These are great 'dark templars'. Makes me want to dig out the old Slaves to Darkness for some 10mm warband action.

A couple on suitably deamonic steeds would also be good.

and keep the weapons big!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Kiwidave on 15 August 2012, 01:26:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319355_10151071807999463_1413757158_n.jpg)

Great figure, but my first impression of his weapon was that he is trying to open an umbrella.... :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 15 August 2012, 04:50:44 PM
Amazing mate, Amazing 


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: i_am_win on 15 August 2012, 11:27:05 PM
Not satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226365_10151068862219463_1486153439_n.jpg)

Why not give him a pair of horns or an extra head? or even some other mutation. I reckon that will sort him out!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 16 August 2012, 01:50:41 PM
If you want to see me struggling with a ruler and a spotlight...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZELt7R9DY


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 16 August 2012, 10:22:07 PM
 :D 8) :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 17 August 2012, 11:25:32 PM
Amazing mate! You might not be able to spin webs, your weakness might not be a rear green rock, you may not have a experimental metal en-crusted Skelton, or a t-shirt with a incriminating skull on it.... I wager that you ain't even got lazer beam eyes or be blind all together... I bet if I wind you up you won't turn green and beat the hell out of me... However... In my eyes... Your still a hero!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 18 August 2012, 12:59:47 AM
Exaggeration.  :-t

The head of the one with the squared blade is "strange", I may change it.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 18 August 2012, 04:16:48 PM
The odd strange one is good in a unit! How many are you doing? I would love a unit of  20 of these guys!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 18 August 2012, 04:56:07 PM
I'm currently at 6 finished.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 18 August 2012, 06:48:41 PM
I have a 10mm fant army now using med evil knights on foot etc. if Leon produced you guys they would make very nice chosen/heros . Oh! You should do some on horses... If I were you I'd get them moulded and then chop of at waist and convert a current horse with armoured legs.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 19 August 2012, 10:02:56 PM
Here we go, my work on a Nurglr chaos lord on chariot

First up, my chariots are going to be dragged by giant rats, but my lord something a little more... Icky

http://img19.imageshack.us/i/imagezjfux.jpg/
Now Im using the Tentical Bahenoth to drag the chariot, but having two identical tentacles would look odd so I removed the tale of one and will re sculpted my self.

http://img692.imageshack.us/i/imagelcr.jpg/
Now I've sculpted the tale back on and will place the chariot before doing my finishing touches

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/FB4-p4795/
Next the lord. I will start with the above and hopefully my skills with green stuff can do something half decent... So first go at 10mm putty...

http://img145.imageshack.us/i/imagetj.jpg/
I've made the helmet, added armour to the upper arms and legs and a large fur cloak to the original.

http://img191.imageshack.us/i/imageuxb.jpg/
http://img10.imageshack.us/i/imagevxi.jpg/
http://img585.imageshack.us/i/imageiivo.jpg/
Here's the chariot in place, Tenticals added and lord mounted

http://img560.imageshack.us/i/imagerrd.jpg/
While I'm imageShacking, hers the start of my knights, they (and my warriors in foot) just need the coffin lid style shields adding. Note: the horn made by cutting and bending a lance.



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 20 August 2012, 03:03:19 AM
all very nice figures - barbarian (techno ?)'s  and vulpine's

Barbarian - from your photos it looks like no soldering is required to model 10mm figures' wire frames and you just twisted wires together? Is that right or was soldering necessary and just not shown?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 20 August 2012, 08:28:56 AM
Vulpine....
That's going really nicely !

Dunnadd...
I'm not certain....But I doubt if many (any ?) designers do any actual soldering at this particular scale ;) :-\
But I'll be interested to hear Barbarian's answer.
I'm guessing that the majority of designers nowadays, would only use one solder spot (at most), and this to join 'hips/backboe to legs' on scales of 15mm upwards....Though I know a quite number of designers that don't even do that. (i.e no soldering at all).....Even on much bigger scales.
There are a few different methods of starting/making the original frame, before it becomes a 'mannequin', and I think we all have our particular favourite method.
It's what works easiest for the individual, I suppose.

I've only seen Barbarian's method of twisted wire used on much larger scale figures.
I'm guessing that he finds this the most comfortable way for himself.

Again, I'd be very interested to hear his comments.

It's always very fascinating to see/hear new techniques ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil.





Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 20 August 2012, 11:19:45 AM
I don't use any glue or soldering.
(Except to fix the structure to the base of sculpting, where I use glue as shown on pictures.)

I usually do this method for 28 mm with FIMO/Super Sclupey III as these won't glue to the wire by themselves. More precisely, they will, but ultimately, they will rotate when I'll push the paste on the limbs : You have to put a fine layer of Green stuff, then apply a fine layer of Fimo/Super Sculpey while the Green stuff is "wet".

On the other hands, I know someone who does everything with green stuff without any wire or frame (Gaëlle Goumont), and he is really talented. I can't understand how he does it. (He maid this

I know another who have casts of heads, feet and hands, who used them with wire, then use exclusively Milliput resculpted when dried. (he works in 54 mm and taller) (Adriano Laruccia - Portfolio http://www.lugdunum-figurines.com/site/spip.php?article105)

Another one sculpt with Lead (yes Lead !) and soldering iron in 54 mm. (Bruno Leibovitz from Metal models...)

My armatures are copied on the method of former Rackham's sculptors...Cyril Abati, Michaël Bigaud...)

Yann


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 20 August 2012, 04:35:29 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/311841_10151084251954463_2098882661_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 20 August 2012, 04:53:25 PM
Those wings! In 10mm wow! 8) :o


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 20 August 2012, 04:56:20 PM
I say we should ban Barbarian from the forum. He's making us all look stupid... Smart ass ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: GordonY on 20 August 2012, 05:06:00 PM
No, I'm hoping he's showing us Pendraken's new Chaos range, I want it and I want it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Matt J on 20 August 2012, 05:21:32 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but those wings look like they'll be too thin to mould and cast.

Also what height are the chaos warriors in the vid they look like spot on 10mm isn't most of the Pendraken fantasy range knocking on 12mm? Chaos warriors have to be a bit bigger than the usual humans.

I do really love the sculpts though


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 20 August 2012, 05:37:22 PM
I must make these wings thicker. Also, I don't like the "fingers" of the Erynie, I must redo them.
BTW, she is 11 mm tall with the "base".

Dark Templars are between 11 and 12 mm without horns and are taller than Pendraken's humans... (At least the ones I have, mainly WWII)

;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: GordonY on 20 August 2012, 07:40:36 PM
The fantasy ranges are noticably bigger


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 21 August 2012, 01:08:56 PM
...don't know about that. Guess we could get around the problem providing thicker bases (I'm talking about the individual bases) ?

I'm doing the second Erynie, would you prefer a flying pose (with the need to attach it to a piano string) or a howling pose ?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 21 August 2012, 03:57:51 PM
The fantasy ranges are noticably bigger

I posted a load of height comparison pictures on page 4 of this thread.  I'll quote them here for convenience:
This one is the best I can remember from my previous searches (from http://ewigeheld.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/10mm-pendraken-miniatures-fantasy/heroes_1/ )

(http://ewigeheld.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/heroes_1.jpg?w=949)

Most of the figures are historical, however the two guys in cloaks are wood elves and the two bare armed/chested guys are barbarians.  The striking thing is how much taller the elves look than the figure with the blue staff even though they are behind him.

Although these are all fantasy, the barbarian chieftain at the top of the stairs is closer to the historic scale than the others.  His head only comes up to the shoulders of the barbarian swordsman on the bottom right of the picture.
(http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l602/Meirion_Hopkins/10mm%20Minis/P1010116a.jpg)

Whilst searching for images I found my own comment on the subject (with the photo below) in this thread: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2848.0

(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8871/08032008182511en0.jpg)

The skeleton far left is Pendraken fantasy, whilst the wizard is Merlin from ARL18 Late Roman Personalities.  (From http://aportodos.mforos.com/1354550/7782193-10mm-pendraken-vs-kallistra/ )

Since I've just orderd a couple, it would seem that the second skeleton from the left is the Pendraken Undead Hero.

Hope this is of some help to someone!

Cheers,

Meirion


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 23 August 2012, 12:52:56 AM
[...] or a howling pose ?

I meant owling pose... :-[


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 23 August 2012, 05:20:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwD3Fr3vbFs


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 23 August 2012, 07:52:25 PM
Thanks for the info Barbarian - i'd been thinking of modelling figures but memories of trying to solder wire frames together when i tried once when i was much younger were putting me off. The fimo thing is very interesting too. Do you mean that if you use green stuff, then fimo, you can sculpt a limb but change the position / shape of it, even when it's hardened? Or am i misunderstanding?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 23 August 2012, 08:51:14 PM
No, you cannot.

Fimo need to be cooked. You can work on it, finished your piece, then cook.
Green stuff is only to let the Fimo glue to the structure.

But Fimo need a low temp mould, which add to the cost of the miniature.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 23 August 2012, 08:55:29 PM
Ah right - thanks barbarian

Techno - also thanks very much for all the info - i got confused at some point and thought that you had changed your board name to barbarian rather than barbarian being someone else 


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 27 August 2012, 08:44:03 PM
Crapy photo.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/303615_10151101377024463_1434127617_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2012, 11:34:17 PM
Crapy photo.

Great-looking figures though  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 27 August 2012, 11:55:27 PM
Better upload ?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/621141_10151101770739463_1479484363_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 28 August 2012, 12:15:28 AM
Better upload ?

Yep!  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 29 August 2012, 11:40:46 AM
Leon: Please make a deal with this guy for his masters! Please


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 29 August 2012, 05:01:47 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/216131_10151105107249463_1876855092_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 29 August 2012, 05:48:32 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/216131_10151105107249463_1876855092_n.jpg)

Now that is a definite "must have", excellent work!!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: dicehead on 30 August 2012, 09:16:05 PM
Fantastic!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 06 September 2012, 02:24:07 AM
Quote
Not satisfy with this one...Too nice to be a chaotic warrior ?

change his axe to a hammer or mace and he'd make a great warrior priest / cleric to fight against the chaos warriors


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 07 September 2012, 01:47:26 AM
also i like all the chaos warrior greens, but the musician and standard bearer are maybe my favourites because you rarely get a good musician or standard on 10mm


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 11 September 2012, 11:31:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Q1e4xgp7I


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 12 September 2012, 11:40:55 PM
Oh yes - liking those  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Nosher on 13 September 2012, 09:05:24 AM
Great figure, but my first impression of his weapon was that he is trying to open an umbrella.... :-\

Late poster to the thread - cant beleive I missed it?

Reveiwing the potential range looks really encouraging but KD took the words out of my mouth a month or so ago! Why do Chaos have to do everything bigger and badder??? Cos they can ;) ;D :D ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 13 September 2012, 11:41:18 AM
Personally, as a rather chaotic chap myself, i've always marvelled at how Chaos armies:

a. manage to formulate a battle plan
b. manage to get it together to make effective arms and armour all covered in skulls ans spikes
c. manage to get all the chaps in the right place, at the right time, formed in nice neat regiments, all pointing in the right direction
d. manage to implement said battle plan in order to win battles

 ;D

That always seemd rather too well ordered to me!

Surely a Chaos army would basically be 6 chaps who've turned up to the wrong field on the wrong day in their pyjamas?

 :D

In any case, LOVING your work Barbarian.  Might have to make my next Hordes of the Things army rather chaotic.   ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 13 September 2012, 05:32:25 PM
Barbarian excellent work, great indeed A+++


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Squirrel on 14 September 2012, 09:28:13 AM
Excellent work on that horse armour 8) loving the rest as well of course!

Cheers,

Kev


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 14 September 2012, 03:12:06 PM
Barbarian, you have done it again! That horse is ace! It's not a bad idia to have separate riders who can slot into that horse.

Lud, I think it's almost the same a Orcs, the biggest baddest leader and his tribe tell the other tribes what to do and when. Armour wise, steal and raid it from other races and add spikes!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 15 September 2012, 10:51:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R04TyDTiN1I


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 15 September 2012, 10:59:22 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 17 September 2012, 09:06:32 AM
 :o


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 17 September 2012, 09:28:34 AM
That's 10mm!  :o I've seen less detailed 28mms...  :D
Not a fan of the GW 'chaos' concept, but Leon, you need these models in your range!  ;)  They are going to sell like hot-cakes! :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 17 September 2012, 10:09:28 AM
Yes, exceptional work.   =D>


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 19 September 2012, 02:13:28 AM
love all of these - really hoping to see them come out as a Pendraken range

Quote
Personally, as a rather chaotic chap myself, i've always marvelled at how Chaos armies:
a. manage to formulate a battle plan
b. manage to get it together to make effective arms and armour all covered in skulls ans spikes
c. manage to get all the chaps in the right place, at the right time, formed in nice neat regiments, all pointing in the right direction
d. manage to implement said battle plan in order to win battles

 Grin

That always seemd rather too well ordered to me!

yes - there's a definite order within chaos paradox there.

In GW's Warhammer world it seems to be meant to be the will of demons and demon princes who are the patrons of the leaders of the armies who keep them in line through a mixture of fear and promises of greater power, with the power they give to chaos champions letting them keep the mass of the army in line, but i don't think they should be capable of forming ordered lines and holding back or carrying out flanking actions or redeployments once the enemy is in sight

The four main chaos gods and the paired enmities between some of them add interest, but also make chaos armies seem a bit too ordered and predictable

Moorcock's version of chaos was much more disordered with the lords of chaos' armies attacking in complete disorder, but supported by massive magical power and chaos' devolving everyone and everything they met into mutants or swirling primordial matter

Me and my brothers use our own rules and army lists and i'm planning on making chaos armies very difficult to control - what they have in strength, high morale and power will be balanced out by them being very hard to hold back from just attacking the nearest enemies immediately at both the strategic and tactical level





Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 19 September 2012, 02:37:50 PM

Me and my brothers use our own rules and army lists and i'm planning on making chaos armies very difficult to control - what they have in strength, high morale and power will be balanced out by them being very hard to hold back from just attacking the nearest enemies immediately at both the strategic and tactical level


Aye, interestingly the old DBM rules would model this perfectly.

Commanders - Irregular and Allied

Chaos Warrios
Blades (fast, superior)
(makes them impetuous and given to advancing without orders in a rabble, unless controlled and held back)

Chaos Marauders
Warband (fast, ordinary)
(makes them impetuous and given to advancing without orders in a rabble, unless controlled and held back)

Mix in the fantasy troop types from Hordes of the Things and you have a great set of rules for a not-WHFB game.





Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 27 September 2012, 04:41:14 PM
I wanted to make a Chaotic hound, but made a Wolf with a big head...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69142_10151144314739463_1605644493_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 27 September 2012, 04:59:46 PM
Still an extremely cool figure!   8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Kassad on 27 September 2012, 07:17:41 PM
Really impressive. I hope to grab the chaos warriors and ther "pet" soon. Great sculpting.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 27 September 2012, 09:14:11 PM
Great animation in the wolf 'B'...Spot on !
Cheers - Phil.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 27 September 2012, 10:45:04 PM
Nice...in a snarly, rip-your-throat-out-soon-as-look-at-you kind of way  :d 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 28 September 2012, 12:12:02 AM
There's a real 'Amreican Werewolf in London' vibe about that little pooch.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 30 September 2012, 10:53:32 PM
So good!  :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 30 September 2012, 11:30:14 PM
What I'm working on...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/542241_10151149239309463_1835623793_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 30 September 2012, 11:44:25 PM
You're such a tease  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 01 October 2012, 06:08:58 AM
You're such a tease  ;) ;D

Your right, page 17 and it feels like the blouses ain't even off yet!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 03 October 2012, 03:05:50 AM
Not that keen on the hound (though doubtless better than anything i could model) but i definitely like the rest


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 08 October 2012, 04:57:11 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527483_10151160303344463_519571397_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/577148_10151160303709463_263773014_n.jpg)
Troll : I intend to do another set of arms and head.
Chariot : Just the place to put any of the warriors on foot on the Chariot. I'm doing a pole with a flag and some shields. May add some blades on the wheels.
I made it voluntarily generic, to use it in another contest.
By the way the horses are based on an image of Wikipedia and are historical too and can therefore be used in another range.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 October 2012, 06:43:16 PM
Coolio!
 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 08 October 2012, 10:24:43 PM
 ??? Now your just showing off


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 08 October 2012, 10:29:47 PM
Excellent - loving that giant  :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 08 October 2012, 10:46:59 PM
Beautiful!

When are we going to see these for purchase?   ~X(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 08 October 2012, 11:06:28 PM
Beautiful!

When are we going to see these for purchase?   ~X(

When someone buys the sculpts and moulds them up...!  ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 08 October 2012, 11:14:29 PM
What about the wheel bolts? Can they be fine tuned?  :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 09 October 2012, 12:43:02 AM
Yeah...Wheels are ugly...I'm working on it. ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Kassad on 09 October 2012, 09:44:46 AM
The "big one" is stunning. Barbarian I' m following your range project with great interest. Really great sculptings.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 18 October 2012, 02:16:28 PM
Same body
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/553945_10151174665844463_299944460_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 18 October 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Nicely done  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 19 October 2012, 08:41:32 PM
Very nice chariot and charioteer.

I like the two troll /giant variants too , but how about making their weapons a bit more believable in size? The blades / heads of the weapons look far, far too big - nothing could swing something that size relative to their own size. Would look much better with weapons that were more to scale.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 24 October 2012, 11:51:44 PM
Very nice chariot and charioteer.

I like the two troll /giant variants too , but how about making their weapons a bit more believable in size? The blades / heads of the weapons look far, far too big - nothing could swing something that size relative to their own size. Would look much better with weapons that were more to scale.

Have to second that one, same with some of the earlier weapons too.  Great work, very nice sculpts, just not a fan of the physics-defying accoutrements!  (I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;)  )

Cheers!

Meirion


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: vladgothic on 25 October 2012, 10:16:01 AM
Cor these are fun, and there is me trying not to be distracted by fantasy stuff


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 09 November 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Anything new Barb?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 09 November 2012, 06:42:10 PM
Yep. I remade the wheels of the chariot.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 11 December 2012, 12:31:57 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tvmkJ7Os6WY/UMcl9cn4m-I/AAAAAAAAAFM/NjezVGRT67w/s912/Teutonic-11decembre2012%2520016.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lqw7MefVP8o/UMcmOhq-NMI/AAAAAAAAAFY/g3L_xPYX7_E/s912/Untitled_Panorama1%2520copy%2520copy.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TodnkcGvS60/UMclhpl9slI/AAAAAAAAAE0/EZdiyunaCm0/s800/Teutonic-11decembre2012%2520007.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2uggx3oQU08/UMcllK24XZI/AAAAAAAAAE8/MlXkhtwEJBw/s912/Teutonic-11decembre2012%2520010.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3cjmJyAhBB8/UMcly5m8FXI/AAAAAAAAAFE/OoL6TtPa4aM/s912/Teutonic-11decembre2012%2520013.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: i_am_win on 11 December 2012, 01:24:53 PM
The big question Barbarian, is what your plans are with these lovely minis?

Are you releasing them, or is someone else doing it?

I just wish you didn't keep teasing us with them...... ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 11 December 2012, 03:24:44 PM
Wow!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 11 December 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Very good, I like these a lot


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 11 December 2012, 07:36:29 PM
I'm not given to hyperbole, but these are AMAZING!!!    :D :D :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 26 December 2012, 10:28:33 AM

First of all my very best congratulation for your scultps, they are superb.

Also :

The big question Barbarian, is what your plans are with these lovely minis?

Are you releasing them, or is someone else doing it?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Vulpine on 02 January 2013, 11:24:39 PM
Fantastic mate, fantastic...

You getting Pendraken to make them into a mould?

Everything here should fot into one mould! It wouldn't be costly and I bet a few people would like to buy a copy of these.. I would!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 02 January 2013, 11:29:55 PM
It's in "pourparlers". ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 04 February 2013, 10:07:54 AM
I'm pleased to announce that I've made a deal with Pendraken for this set of miniatures.  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 04 February 2013, 11:00:17 AM
 8) ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Matt J on 04 February 2013, 12:04:06 PM
Great!

I don't need these at all but wil be ordering lots anyway  :D

Lovely sculpts


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 04 February 2013, 08:18:37 PM
I wish I saw more marauders than warriors but anyway, can I pre order them?   :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 09 February 2013, 10:58:56 PM
I'm pleased to announce that I've made a deal with Pendraken for this set of miniatures.  8)

I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 09 February 2013, 11:43:04 PM
I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.

You and me both  :d :d :d


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 09 February 2013, 11:52:47 PM
The lost and the damned  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 12 February 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Sure that name was a gw quote, or did meatloaf get there first?  ;D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: bombshell games on 13 February 2013, 01:12:26 AM
Quote
I'm also pleased to announce that I'll be starting a Pendraken chaotic fantasy battle force. I'm lost.
I'm joining kerath and nik! You can be sure that it won't be long after release that you'll be seeing these in a game of MAYHEM. ;) Fantastic work barbarian!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 05 March 2013, 04:02:13 PM
God damn those are some nice 10mm fantasy figures. When will they be available for the buying?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 06 March 2013, 08:03:18 PM
We're not sure at the moment.  The figures have arrived here, but they are a little small compared to the other Fantasy ranges.  We'd be interested to hear what people think?

With some Fantasy:
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/TeutKnight1_zps1e917679.jpg)


With some Fantasy and regular historical:
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/TeutKnight2_zpsbe7a760e.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: i_am_win on 06 March 2013, 08:19:55 PM
I like them, but they are a bit smaller than I was expecting!  :o

I'm sure they'll be lovely ranked up together with a good paintjob though!



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 06 March 2013, 08:23:44 PM
They do look a touch small - but they do look very nice and detailed.

The fantasy range is rather big - so comparison with the human ranges is probably more appropriate.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Matt J on 06 March 2013, 08:25:58 PM
Bummer but it wouldn't put me off buying them as they are lovely models.

One solution - Barbarian to resculpt the entire fantasy range  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 06 March 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Chaos Knights on heavy armour are taller and wider than average human. They are too small for me. I won't buy them in that size.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: nikharwood on 06 March 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Chaos Knights on heavy armour are taller and wider than average human. They are too small for me. I won't buy them in that size.

Yep - 'fraid so  :(

At this size, these would look positively daft alongside my Wood Elves & Gobbos...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: petercooman on 06 March 2013, 10:39:06 PM
They are indeed to small.

No possibility to cast em up and sell as chaos dwarfs? Or are they too thin for that?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Edmund2011 on 06 March 2013, 11:03:43 PM
I would buy them without doubt  :)

I use a lot of Historic range figures, and can mix well for me.

Fantasy figures are bigger, but painted over the game table can work. In fact I mix them with historical for gaming....  ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: petercooman on 06 March 2013, 11:05:49 PM
I  see only one possible solution, revamp the entire fantasy range to 'real' 10 mm scale :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 06 March 2013, 11:22:49 PM
Various things to consider :
-The integrated bases are much thinner on my models. (The orc would be the average same heigh as my warriors).
-The range is consistent.
-They are taller than humans of a well known brand.

The only historical minis I own from Pendraken are Late Romans, and the Warriors are a bit taller (but thinner) than this range.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 06 March 2013, 11:34:26 PM
Great sculpts but WAY too small.

I'd wouldn't buy them.

Shame really they looked really promising.   :(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 06 March 2013, 11:43:30 PM
Great sculpts but WAY too small.

I'd wouldn't buy them.

Shame really they looked really promising.   :(
Yeah, after so much waiting and expectation. A pity.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 07 March 2013, 12:37:52 AM
I'm sorry if I've failed you.
Some size comp where I tried to put the heels on the same line.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/482818_10151444115989463_1555869066_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 07 March 2013, 01:35:56 AM
I don't think they're that small - a lot of Pendraken's 10mm fantasy figures are closer to 15mm than 10mm. I'd definitely buy some. They might be even better if they were a bit bigger but the quality is great and the size is within an acceptable range.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: blacksmith on 07 March 2013, 11:21:04 AM
I think the figures are beautiful but too small, that's all.
For me a Chaos knight must tower one head or more over mere mortals and be twice as thick. I cannot field a unit of chaos knights smaller than goblins, sorry but I'm not interested any more; and it's a pity I said, because I loved those miniis and I badly wanted, but not in that size.
Best of luck.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Matt J on 07 March 2013, 11:49:53 AM
just wondering how they would compare to GW models as people would be buyng these for Warmaster mostly? Are you looking at revamping the fantasy range anyway?

another possibilty is something we can do in the jewellery trade to add weight, not sure if it would work in this case though. Make your initial master moulds then with the metal castings you have, apply layer after layer of plating. This should bulk the models out without too much loss of detail.

or Barbarian to resculpt


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Fenton on 07 March 2013, 12:17:51 PM
I think they would look good for an evil human army but not chaos


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 07 March 2013, 01:03:58 PM
Heck, I'd buy them, they're humans who worship the chaos lords, who says you have to bulk up once you sign up with the dark powers?

Always hated the way GW did that...


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 07 March 2013, 05:31:22 PM
Heck, I'd buy them, they're humans who worship the chaos lords, who says you have to bulk up once you sign up with the dark powers?

I agree, my plan is to have a mixture of humanoids and mishapen beasts of chaos. So these would fit the bill nicely  :)

My interpretation of Chaos armies from Moorcock's books is light years away from the GW style


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 07 March 2013, 05:39:35 PM
How do they compare size wise to the beastmen/haedeous men?  :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Fenton on 07 March 2013, 05:44:51 PM

My interpretation of Chaos armies from Moorcock's books is light years away from the GW style

There is Chaos troops that arent GW...Surely not, I wonder when GW lawyers will have a go at the Moorcock estate?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 07 March 2013, 05:50:44 PM
How do they compare size wise to the beastmen/haedeous men?  :-\

Smaller I hope or I won't be buying the beastmen/haedeous men


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: OldenBUA on 07 March 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Various things to consider :
-The integrated bases are much thinner on my models. (The orc would be the average same heigh as my warriors).
-The range is consistent.
-They are taller than humans of a well known brand.

The only historical minis I own from Pendraken are Late Romans, and the Warriors are a bit taller (but thinner) than this range.

Yes, but as has been said several times before, the Fantasy ranges are usually taller than the Pendraken historicals. Getting a few samples from Leon might have helped here, the first time this was mentioned? I'm sure he would have helped with that right away.

I still think these are superb sculpts, they just do not generally match with Pendraken's fantasy ranges. But part of that is due to the thinner base, as you point out. Also, I believe that there are some sculpts (harpies? giant?) where the size difference won't matter much. So all together I have mixed feelings about these right now.  :-\


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Edmund2011 on 07 March 2013, 09:01:45 PM
Right, bases are thinner.

Being these the masters, I am wondering if when producing the moulds, moulds and final figures to be sold will be slightly bigger than the masters, is that right?

I am afraid that is not going to enlarge the figures very much  ;) , just wondering if that is noticeable puting together a master and a final figure-

I'm sorry if I've failed you.

I don't feel you have failed anybody. They are your own figures, made initially for your personal use, and the sculping is first class, you should be really proud of them!!  :-bd

IMO if they are 10mm scale I think they could be produced by Pendraken, even being smaller than other Fantasy Figures of Pendraken.




Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Techno on 07 March 2013, 09:26:01 PM
Being these the masters, I am wondering if when producing the moulds, moulds and final figures to be sold will be slightly bigger than the masters, is that right?

Tends to be the other way round Edmond.
The final production figure will normally be a tiny bit smaller/thinner (but only front to back.....NOT head to toe).
At this scale the 'reduction' is pretty minute though.

Cheers - Phil.








Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Edmund2011 on 07 March 2013, 10:55:28 PM
Thanks Phil, didn't know that!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 07 March 2013, 11:25:16 PM
Yes, but as has been said several times before, the Fantasy ranges are usually taller than the Pendraken historicals. Getting a few samples from Leon might have helped here, the first time this was mentioned? I'm sure he would have helped with that right away.

I prefer real 10mm. But that's a matter of taste.
I must say I've started to sculpt these without saying anything to Leon and didn't know at the time I would try to sell these. I just had a look at the top requests and tell me "Why don't you give a go on this one ?"
I worked with figures of the leader on the market (the Renaissance inspired ones) nearby.

In the end I hope people who are reluctant to buy these would give them a chance (maybe a sample pack) ?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: quasar42 on 08 March 2013, 01:06:14 PM

For me, the size is great, as they fit nicely with your historic ranges and the fantasy ranges of other suppliers that shall not be named.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 08 March 2013, 04:36:47 PM
For me the sieze is good! I will purchase them.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Kassad on 08 March 2013, 09:14:45 PM
I think the figures are beautiful but too small, that's all.
For me a Chaos knight must tower one head or more over mere mortals and be twice as thick. I cannot field a unit of chaos knights smaller than goblins, sorry but I'm not interested any more; and it's a pity I said, because I loved those miniis and I badly wanted, but not in that size.
Best of luck.

I share the same opinion   :'(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: badstar on 09 March 2013, 11:19:20 PM
Hi Barbarian, as much as I can understand the disappointment from a few, I think your sculpts deserve producing, very nice, distinctive, and should menace many an opponent,

Out of curiosity, as I'm fairly new to sculpting, how difficult might it be to raise the bases by a millimetre or so? It won't address any issue with bulk of course but it could make all the difference in winning over some people. Whatever, I hope these go metal somehow.

Regards, Rob.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 09 March 2013, 11:41:00 PM
Fairly easy.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: clibinarium on 10 March 2013, 01:31:31 AM
Barbarian, if you started these as a bit of fun, then the only person you really have to satisfy is yourself (a commission is different of course). So if you like them, and they suit what you wanted to use them for don't change anything.
 If you go on to do more fantasy stuff you could always make the next figures you do a bit bigger and then return to these after a while and do bigger versions (there's nothing more disheartening than having to sculpt again figures you've just finished).

For what its worth I think they are lovely figures, there's a fineness to the detail which is hard to achieve. If they are a bit small that only emphasises the quality of the work to me. A couple of mm makes a big difference at this scale, its much harder to pack that much detail into a 10mm figure as opposed to a 11 or 12mm one.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 10 March 2013, 01:48:28 AM
Agreed Clib.

They're superb quality and had a lot of us itching to get our hands on them.

Some still are.  For me though...just that bit too small and not bulky enough.

 :(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 11 March 2013, 07:01:46 PM
If we killed everyone that thought they're too small then customer satisfaction percentages would rise and future complaints likely fall by a significant level. I'm not saying that's definitely what we should do - it's just one option to consider.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 23 March 2013, 02:19:17 PM
Is there any date for the release of the chaotic horde?


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 23 March 2013, 02:21:12 PM
a beautiful general could be one sitting on a throne, with some bodyguards with hounds or wolfs around the throne... just an idea... :)

can't wait to expand my chaos army with those beauties  8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 23 March 2013, 08:32:13 PM
At the moment these won't be produced by Pendraken I'm afraid.  They're just that little bit too small to fit with the our other Fantasy ranges, and it would lead to complaints from people who bought them with any other figures.

The figures themselves are awesome though, especially in the flesh.  We'll have a chat with Barbarian and see if there's any other options to bring these to market.

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 24 March 2013, 10:01:42 AM
Aye, its a real shame that Leon.  They're lovely sculpts, just off scale.   :(


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Sandinista on 24 March 2013, 11:14:49 AM
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Edmund2011 on 24 March 2013, 05:47:55 PM
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me

Yes please,  ;)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Leon on 24 March 2013, 07:19:58 PM
Keep us informed as to any suucess B has with getting these into production as the size would not be an issue for me

Yes please,  ;)

Will do, we're going to help Barbarian out as much as we can, as the quality of the sculpting certainly deserves it.

 8)


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Luddite on 06 April 2013, 08:38:03 PM
Will do, we're going to help Barbarian out as much as we can, as the quality of the sculpting certainly deserves it.

 8)

Thumbs up to that!

Quality's superb.   :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 16 April 2013, 11:33:09 PM
After size comparison I can only say.... LOL I'm still excited with this project  :d  I love them!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 16 April 2013, 11:38:40 PM
I'm sorry if I've failed you.

I'm going to send an e-punch to your face for such a comment.

With texturized bases and painted they will look just great. And the size, taking into account the comparison, in my opinion won't matter that much ingame, because armies will be homogeneous. And I like the detail and style.

Would the company seriously take into account to close this request at this point? I think barbarian won't resculpt everything the same/slightly different to fullfill this (if he does.. well, ofc is also good, will reach more market) but I consider the quality of them superb, really worth it.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 17 April 2013, 09:22:10 AM
I'm considering using a platform of crowdfunding such as Indiegogo to produce these.

I'm planning how to set rewards and prizing to be "realistic" for the backers and for me : this is not easy but basically, I'd prefer to stay on the kind of prizing Pendraken does.

I have already other sculpts to throw in in case the funding would succeed.

I'm in the writing process of a video too, as it seems to help a lot on these projects.

I'll get back to you as soon I have fresh news.



Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: jchaos79 on 23 April 2013, 06:42:42 PM
Hey barbarian, if you do it count on me to buy some figures!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: kerath on 06 May 2013, 12:30:35 AM
I don't understand this method, barbarian. So going to Indiegogo will mean that your models won't be able to be bought from Pendraken? Well, I will still buy mine xD And I also would love to see your work in Pendraken shopping basket.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: quasar42 on 16 January 2014, 08:11:10 AM
Hi,

In case it is of interest, I saw on TMP that the evil men are now on Indiegogo: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/evil-men-fantasy-10mm-miniatures I hope it is ok to post the link here. Would be nice if the chariots could be unlocked


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 19 February 2014, 09:17:13 PM
I will be donating to this though i can't afford to donate a huge amount.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: barbarian on 20 February 2014, 09:53:33 AM
Guess who will be doing the casting ?  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: mad lemmey on 20 February 2014, 03:31:18 PM
Chipped in, too good to miss!


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: fred. on 20 February 2014, 05:27:23 PM
I'm in on these too. They look great, and the latest additions look really good.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Edmund2011 on 21 February 2014, 11:05:18 PM
I hope it is someone skilled with casting and veeery related to this forum...  8)

Guess who will be doing the casting ?  :D


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 February 2014, 12:19:32 AM
Just picked up an email to say an extra 48 hours has been added to the KS, if anyone is still considering joining in.


Title: Re: Fantasy: Chaos Warriors
Post by: Dunnadd on 07 November 2017, 05:50:25 PM
As well as Laran miniatures' Evil Men, there are also Trolls Under The Bridge who do some very nice 10mm chaos figures, though not nearly as wide a range