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Wider Wargaming => Non-Pendraken Stuff => Topic started by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 September 2021, 09:22:36 PM

Title: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 September 2021, 09:22:36 PM
Got bored this afternoon.
(https://i.imgur.com/z47cgHe.png)
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: fred. on 18 September 2021, 09:43:36 PM
Cool. I like how there is a tail leading out of Europe. Then a smattering from around the world

If you are still feeling bored how about a timeline?
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: paulr on 19 September 2021, 12:04:23 AM
Seconded :)
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 September 2021, 07:14:22 AM
Yes time line please
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 September 2021, 10:24:17 PM
Not perfect, but here you go!
(https://i.imgur.com/neOTy9U.png)
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: paulr on 22 September 2021, 09:00:13 AM
That's even more crowed than the map
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: fred. on 22 September 2021, 12:37:27 PM
I think crowded is good.

But the outliers do cover 3000 years of history!

It is interesting that with Ancients and Medievals, people seem happy to match up armies that only have been armed with pointy sticks as the point of commonality, not that they where proximate in either time nor geography. For WWII its very rare (if not unheard of) to match up a 1941 Desert force vs a 1944 East front force. The closest I have seen is some Blue on Blue games of FoW.

Maybe because in WWII you have distinct uniforms and paint schemes for theatres, and that most rulesets cover the increase in armour and weapon strength. Whereas I think most ancient / medieval rules treat weapons and armour far more relative to weapon strengths - without thinking about absolute weapon strengths for a bronze axe vs a WoTR pole axe.
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 September 2021, 01:15:46 PM
I have used 42 brit's against 44/5 Gremans, but not often.
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Big Insect on 22 September 2021, 01:23:47 PM
I think the time-line exhibits one of the challenges for rules covering such a broad time frame.
Naturally the later armies (medieval) generally tend to do better against the earlier ones, but can MeG balance out the differences? This is usually done via the points system, so later armies are smaller and have smaller break-points.
But can a Sumerian City State army really fight successfully against a French Ordonnance army. It will be interesting to see.

Many competitions will 'band' their events - with breakpoints at changes of military technology or approach. Biblical/Classical/Dark Ages/Early Medieval/Later Medieval.

It will also be really interesting to see the final rankings at the various stages in the event (after each round). If that can be managed  ;D
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Steve J on 22 September 2021, 03:51:10 PM
Fair points Mark. I wouldn't fancy some of the possible match ups, unless there was a way of 'balancing' things a bit as your rightly say. As for WWII non-period match ups, say a Polish '39 army vs a Russian '45 one wouldn't be fun for anyone, not matter how you tried to balance things.
Title: Re: Map for London GT MeG Tournement
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 September 2021, 06:41:45 PM
Normally MeG is themed. Dark Agrs/Med etc

Skullrollers/GT is open which is rare.

The thing with WW2 is between 40 and 45 there is a massive technological shift that the tank armour weapons are rendered obsolete. Small arms remain the same, ish...