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Title: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: clibinarium on 21 August 2021, 02:50:46 PM
After the recent AWI additions, a Pendraken customer was good enough to sponsor the sculpting of some hussars for the LoA range. They'll work fine for the later half of the 17th and early part of the 18th Century too. I've made them fairly generic so they should work for most armies. The trumpeter was a tricky pose as cavalry have to be done on a single axis. So he's turned around a bit further than is natural, but it makes casting much easier.
They are on the smaller dragoon-sized horses, which I managed to give some more active poses to.
Hope you like them and thanks to the sponsor.

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Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 21 August 2021, 04:31:09 PM
Excellent Clibs!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Steve J on 21 August 2021, 04:56:04 PM
Like them? I bloomin' love 'em!!!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Matt J on 21 August 2021, 05:43:57 PM
Friggin 'eck, they are great!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Spartan on 21 August 2021, 07:05:20 PM
insanly good for the scale !
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: fred. on 21 August 2021, 07:32:25 PM
Well, they are bit nice then!  :o
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 August 2021, 07:35:11 PM
They're very nice!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Orcs on 21 August 2021, 07:37:24 PM
They are superb, Shame all my Rennaisance stuff is in 15mm. None of the figures I have are as nice as these.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2021, 11:39:05 PM
Holy Tamoly!
Those are incredible!  :o
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 August 2021, 12:35:37 AM
Impressive.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: paulr on 22 August 2021, 01:20:06 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 August 2021, 02:35:18 AM
Mmmmm.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 August 2021, 06:39:51 AM
No I DONT need them. Really good stuff.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Gwydion on 22 August 2021, 12:08:02 PM
I can happily incorporate them into my 17th century collection! :D
Hurray!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 August 2021, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: paulr on 22 August 2021, 01:20:06 AM
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period
I do not need another period


         I refer to you quoting me - RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: clibinarium on 22 August 2021, 02:29:07 PM
Cheers everyone.
I am pleased with these, but I got a little bit carried away doing them. Most likely as I've been working on lots of 15mm Renaissance stuff in the last year. I thought I'd get them knocked out in a couple of days but it ended up taking almost a week.
Hussars are quite intricate at the best of times, and I might have made these a little over-detailed for 10mm. It's hard for me to know since I almost never paint figures these days.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: John Cook on 22 August 2021, 04:03:19 PM
They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: fred. on 22 August 2021, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 22 August 2021, 02:29:07 PM
Hussars are quite intricate at the best of times, and I might have made these a little over-detailed for 10mm. It's hard for me to know since I almost never paint figures these days.

I don't know if that is good or bad news! The other LoA figure are pretty detailed - they look great when painted up, but do need time to do them justice.

Quote from: John Cook on 22 August 2021, 04:03:19 PM
They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.

The Battle of the Boyne is a pretty good starting place for the LoA period - if a rather Anglo centric one.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 22 August 2021, 10:40:32 PM
Hello

Very nice, I don't know if you can keep them in historical scenarios though, I can see them sneaking into Fantasy as Kislev, etc. My poor groaning wishlist will take another hit when they're released  :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: John Cook on 23 August 2021, 12:18:42 AM
Quote from: fred. on 22 August 2021, 04:11:20 PM
The Battle of the Boyne is a pretty good starting place for the LoA period - if a rather Anglo centric one.

I thought about it but the Jacobites seem such poor quality that it would hardly be a fair fight.  The real problem is investing in all the research into a period I know next to nothing about, although I see there are some interesting looking books in the Century of the Soldier series.  Still I'm fully committed to a Peninsular War project at the moment.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: toxicpixie on 23 August 2021, 07:12:43 AM
Helions books are nice! I'd suggest Piedmont rather than the Boyne. Loads of different troops and some good actions that are very "gameable" ;)
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: DecemDave on 23 August 2021, 09:10:44 AM
Just to add my own adoration to these splendid figures. 
Sorry I'm so late but I have been lying down in a dark room until the urge to start a new period went away ......
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 August 2021, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: DecemDave on 23 August 2021, 09:10:44 AM
Just to add my own adoration to these splendid figures. 
Sorry I'm so late but I have been lying down in a dark room until the urge to start a new period went away ......

It wont thpough !!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 August 2021, 10:31:16 AM
I didn't quite catch what you said there, Igor....
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: DHautpol on 23 August 2021, 11:44:21 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 22 August 2021, 04:03:19 PM
They are impressive but I wouldn't know where to start with the LoA.

I would recommend Barry Hilton's "Every Bullet has its Billet" in the Helion series to give a nice overview of the period, there was quite a lot going on but it tends to get overlooked in favour of Marlborough.

Barry also has some suggestions for how to build and organise your armies in his "Beneath the Lily Banners" rules; basically paint a brigade of foot, then a brigade of horse, then more foot followed by some guns etc.

As for the hussars, then to employ an oft overused expression, OMG.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Shecky on 24 August 2021, 05:18:44 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: John Cook on 24 August 2021, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: DHautpol on 23 August 2021, 11:44:21 PM
I would recommend Barry Hilton's "Every Bullet has its Billet" in the Helion series to give a nice overview of the period, there was quite a lot going on but it tends to get overlooked in favour of Marlborough.

Thanks for that.  I will give it some thought in the context of a future project.  I like to identify a particular battle for my projects, one for which there is a comprehensive OB.  Then there is organisations, units and formations, and tactics to research and understand, not to mention uniforms.  The LoA is one of those periods which for me is a blank blank canvas.  The sculpts are stunning though, I must confess. 
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Dannyboy on 24 August 2021, 01:37:42 PM
These are simply stunning, beautiful sculpts full of energy. Can anybody throw some light on when and who used these characters during the LoA period. New to the period and wondering if they would be suitable in any way alongside a Polish Commonwealth/ Saxon force?

Please, please consider a revamp of the GNW Swedes and Russians to this standard, plus could we have Polish Winged Hussars and especially the Pancerni to a similar sublime level of multi pose excellence ?

Appreciate this is a personal plea, but would there be support for a Kickstarter further down the line, appreciate the commitment to Napoleonics at the moment. But hey that would give me a chance to do the Saxons.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: clibinarium on 24 August 2021, 02:15:59 PM
These men were pretty much the national cavalry of Hungary, and so were employed in Imperial armies. They impressed the French enough to form their own hussar regiments from Hungarian renegades.
An important aspect often overlooked is that during the WSS Francis Rákóczi lead a rebellion in Hungary to throw off the Austrian's rule, and his cavalry were basically these hussars (and the infantry wore a similar dress). This caused the Imperials a large headache when they were trying to prosecute the war against France. One of the consequences of Blenheim was that the French and Bavarians were prevented from linking up with Rákóczi's forces.
I think you could also use them for the later half of the 17th century as Hungarians, or other eastern light cavalry depending on how fussy you are, or indeed as Kislevites etc.
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Dannyboy on 24 August 2021, 02:28:47 PM
They're simply too nice not to use, at the very least I will be generally sprinkling them through the Cossack/ Wallachian light horse as slightly more affluent types   ;) post looting and rampage. The command pack are a must have.  :D
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: Scorpio_Rocks on 24 August 2021, 04:04:37 PM
These are gorgeous!!!! Great work, as usual, Clib!

The big question is do I now replace my 2 units of 1693 French Hussars (made using proxies "Bosniak lancers" and Polish commanders - See http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19652.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19652.0.html))???
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: ronan on 24 August 2021, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Scorpio_Rocks on 24 August 2021, 04:04:37 PM
These are gorgeous!!!! Great work, as usual, Clib!

The big question is do I now replace my 2 units of 1693 French Hussars (made using proxies "Bosniak lancers" and Polish commanders - See http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19652.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19652.0.html))???

I think I'll have to replace mine !
:D
Title: Re: Late 17th/Early 18th Century hussar preview
Post by: abikapi2 on 14 September 2021, 04:47:51 PM
WOW!!! I need them!