My overview of the new SCW book, Libertad!
Thanks for the overview Todd :). I've had a quick whizz through and it looks good and will return for a proper view once eveyones gone to work etc.
Changing your channel name, sneaky!
Cheers for this, interesting to hear your thoughts.
Hi Todd
Many thanks for the review - glad you liked the supplement idea. We have others planned.
I'd love to come onto the channel and chat with you about the rules concepts and the idea behind the Libertad supplement.
Please ping me a direct message on the forum and we'll arrange something.
Many thanks
Mark (Fry)
Excellent work Mr Fry. Really like the supplement, especially the inclusion of the scenarios. Well done Mark.
Cheers
Richard P
I watched it through just now and a great review Todd. The lists look great as do the maps. Can't wait to get my grubby mits on a hard copy :).
Thank you - but I cannot claim all the fame Richard - Rob created the scenarios and his input to the army lists was invaluable and without Leon's hard-work and attention to detail in the editing we'd not have gotten here at all. So it was truly a team effort.
But I am glad you like it.
Like all the Pendraken 'Commander' rules offerings, no-doubt we'll see various new house rules and interpretations spring from this going forwards.
For example - I envisaged the Line Commander rule working equally well in an Iran-Iraq War Iranian Revolutionary army in CWC for example, or with a Communist Chinese army in the Korean War, or even an early Soviet infantry force in a Winter War scenario. The idea is to allow massed movement of units and keep the game flowing. There is no reason why you couldn't also potentially use it with a Tankovy army in a mid-war Eastern Front scenario as well - with your massed T34s sweeping across the steppes.
All feedback gratefully received of course
Cheers
Mark
Having received my har copy today, I posted a review on my Blog based upon first impressions:
https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html (https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html)
Quote from: Steve J on 03 October 2020, 01:32:49 PM
Having received my har copy today, I posted a review on my Blog based upon first impressions:
https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html (https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html)
That's for the review! I'll probably pick this up even though I don't have much interest in the SCW currently but I might in the future and at that price why wouldn't I pick a copy up. Also I hope you're right about the Korean War bring the next supplement 😎
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Quote from: Steve J on 03 October 2020, 01:32:49 PM
Having received my har copy today, I posted a review on my Blog based upon first impressions:
https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html (https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2020/10/libertad-scw-supplement.html)
Excellent, glad you like it!
That looks a very nicely presented book - good work Leon and team!
Quote from: fred. on 03 October 2020, 08:54:04 PM
That looks a very nicely presented book - good work Leon and team!
Thanks Fred!
With regard to the improvised defenses and armour on the trucks, vans, buses, lorries and cars - I had had the thought that it might be nice to have the basic civilian models and to then offer upgrade kits - so additional steel boiler plates, or mattresses to strap to the roof of buses and cars or the cab roofs of lorries. The apex steel roof shown in the excellent period video posted earlier on in this thread could also be a separate add on.
Another 'upgrade' might be a group pf anarchist/militia riflemen/women kneeling to fire from the side of the lorries. That can be dropped into the back of an open top lorry.
Or a portee field gun & crew that could be lorry mounted.
I know that in 6mm Irregular miniatures have Soviet WW2 open top lorries with the passengers all caste into them. They look great.
Of course all this might be too complicated and might also take away some of the fun of doing your own conversions :D
Mark
I like the sound of the conversion kits, though as all my SCW stuff is 20mm it's academic only.
With reference to "line commanders" is this meant to be a specifically SCW thing? If so I can't see any particular justification for it. Or is it something which will be introduced elsewhere as well, e.g CWC?
Mark has suggested he's considering it for other supplements
I would have thought that Line Commanders could work equally well in WWII. Just give it a go and see what you think.
Quote from: JeffNNN on 04 October 2020, 08:50:45 AM
I like the sound of the conversion kits, though as all my SCW stuff is 20mm it's academic only.
With reference to "line commanders" is this meant to be a specifically SCW thing? If so I can't see any particular justification for it. Or is it something which will be introduced elsewhere as well, e.g CWC?
There is no reason why you couldn't use Line Commander in other lists in BKCIV.
It was designed to facilitate the use of large infantry formations - and to keep the game flowing. I had originally conceived it as part of a prototype Great War Commander set of rules (still a very long way off being ready) but saw similarities in certain later wars - such as Russian Civil War, Winter War (for the Soviets); early PLA Cold War armies (as in Korea) or Iranian Islamic forces in the Iran-Iraq war, but in our play-tests it also worked equally well for large armoured formations.
It could easily be transferred to CWC (or BKCIV) more generally.
It is not a super mechanism - it has its disadvantages - but my hope was it might speed up play in bigger games - but also give a level of realism around junior commanders leading formations into combat.
I hope that helps?
Mark
Certainly a useful insight into your thinking behind the rule Mark.
Hi, a little question.
Why there is no bt-5 in the fascist lists?
I toni the spanish fascist captured some bt-5 during the war.
Thanks.
I suppose it's worth saying that army lists in the BKC world aren't like army lists in GW games. BKC lists are to allow you to compose typical forces for the different nations in the different theatres. By their nature they have to be fairly generic and more of a guide than a hard limit.
If you have specific info for the troops used in a battle then there has always been the acceptance that this can be used instead of the army lists.
There are stats for the BT5s so I'd feel free to use them as appropriate.
Ok.
Thanks.
That was the option we take. Simply take the bt-5 stats of other list.
Quote from: Jordi on 19 January 2024, 03:16:43 PMOk.
Thanks.
That was the option we take. Simply take the bt-5 stats of other list.
That is absolutely right - and as Fred states, the lists are much more of a guide than specific.
Also in BKC/CWC each table top vehicle or stand of infantry represents multiple vehicles or a larger infantry formation in real life. So you might find that in this scenario you might end up with just 1 or 2 captured BT-5s - depending upon how many were captured, and also what state they were in after capture. Often captured vehicles (armour in-particular) are often harder to maintain in active service if you don't have a supply of parts/spares. So you could classify the captured BT-5s as Unreliable (-5pts) and that can simulate break-downs etc. Just a thought.
Cheers
Mark
Ok. Thanks for the answer and for your time Mark. :)