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Title: English Church
Post by: parkerm17 on 12 July 2020, 09:53:40 AM
I may have asked this before but does anyone know where I can get a  model of a typical English Church with a square tower not a spire for the ECW period?   I can find Dutch and German style churches with steeples but nothing really English.   Bacchus do one in 6mm but that is too small.   The model would be useful for anything from Middle Ages (WoR) up to the Jacobite wars but especially the ECW.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 July 2020, 09:56:38 AM
Try Baggage Train or Time Cast. If you can't find one on Baggage Train then email Steve, he's notorious for not putting stuff on the web !
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 July 2020, 09:56:56 AM
I use the one from Leven, but I prefer Wendy-housing my built-up areas.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: T13A on 12 July 2020, 11:10:13 AM
Hi

I use N gauge kits from Model Railway suppliers, have a look at this one:

https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/kestrel-designs/church-with-porch-kd4-n-gauge-1-148-scale

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Raider4 on 12 July 2020, 12:07:03 PM
If you're up to building one out of card, Wordsworth Model Railway (http://www.wordsworthmodelrailway.co.uk/townscene.html) have a couple. Just print at 50% (4-up) for our scale.

Might be a bit too modern though, don't know if they could be back-dated for the period you want?
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Sandinista on 12 July 2020, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: T13A on 12 July 2020, 11:10:13 AM
I use N gauge kits from Model Railway suppliers, have a look at this one:
https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/kestrel-designs/church-with-porch-kd4-n-gauge-1-148-scale
One the same site is the one I have https://www.modelscenerysupplies.co.uk/brands/knightwing-model-kits/N-gauge-Church-Knightwing-PN20 without the clock it looks the part

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 12 July 2020, 12:55:36 PM
What you are asking for is, I think, a Norman-style church as opposed to a Saxon-style church.  The steeples of Saxon church have spires though many have lost them now.  Examples can be found all over southern England and would not be out of place in any ECW scenario.

However, Old Glory do a Norman-style church with a turreted steeple - BLD-1008: Church-European Style.

http://www.oldgloryuk.com/10mm-buildings/28/113/269/272

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Sunray on 12 July 2020, 06:45:33 PM
Have a look at Model 4T5 in the Hovels range.  It listed as 15mm, but is "small" and scaled to what old 15mm used to be prior to scale creep.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: parkerm17 on 13 July 2020, 09:13:20 AM
Thanks one and all.   I have never yet come across a Saxon Church with a spire and there are only  a handful of Saxon Churches still in existence- have a look at Bradford on Avon.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 July 2020, 09:15:51 AM
Wing in Bedfordshire
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 July 2020, 12:56:57 PM
Spire?
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 July 2020, 01:34:36 PM
EBay has a number of different N-gauge churches, from 99p to fifty quid, here

https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Church-N-Gauge-Model-Railway-Buildings-Tunnels-Bridges/99814/bn_10330392
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 13 July 2020, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 13 July 2020, 09:13:20 AM
Thanks one and all.   I have never yet come across a Saxon Church with a spire and there are only  a handful of Saxon Churches still in existence- have a look at Bradford on Avon.

Star with these.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/medieval-renaissance/10-anglo-saxon-churches-walls-and-monuments-to-rediscover-this-summer/
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 13 July 2020, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 July 2020, 10:01:47 PM
Start with these.

https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/medieval-renaissance/10-anglo-saxon-churches-walls-and-monuments-to-rediscover-this-summer/

Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 13 July 2020, 10:04:03 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 13 July 2020, 12:56:57 PM
Spire?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spire
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 July 2020, 10:57:44 PM
Good sites
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 July 2020, 01:58:01 AM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 July 2020, 10:04:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spire

Yes. I know what a spire is - my holidays usually involve architecture hunts - but I can't see one at Wing.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 14 July 2020, 06:27:32 AM
Perhappes it flew off.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 July 2020, 08:57:47 AM
Just a nice Saxon church
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 14 July 2020, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 14 July 2020, 01:58:01 AM
Yes. I know what a spire is - my holidays usually involve architecture hunts - but I can't see one at Wing.

Oops, my mistake.  I must admit I was more than a little surprised but people sometimes confuse a steeple with the spire.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: John Cook on 14 July 2020, 01:15:56 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 14 July 2020, 08:57:47 AM
Just a nice Saxon church

It is, but not much of it is actually Saxon and I'll bet that the steeple is a later addition.  I have no idea which style predominated in 16th Century England.
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: parkerm17 on 16 July 2020, 09:20:25 AM
Quote from: Sunray on 12 July 2020, 06:45:33 PM
Have a look at Model 4T5 in the Hovels range.  It listed as 15mm, but is "small" and scaled to what old 15mm used to be prior to scale creep.


This is just right: many thanks, Sunray
Title: Re: English Church
Post by: Sunray on 16 July 2020, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 16 July 2020, 09:20:25 AM
This is just right: many thanks, Sunray

You are very welcome pal.  Its what this forum community does best.  I am currently using Hovels 15mm Spanish houses on my harbour diorama.  As they are near enough  low relief style and smaller in scale than more  recent 15mm they work well.

If you do ever need to blodge down to 10mm you can add a door from Irregular Mins range or that big double door from Pendraken fantasy range.

Regards

James