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Title: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 26 June 2020, 10:07:10 PM
Hallo All,

I've had a small diversion into 1/72 scale, late 17th/early 18th century slightly imaginary Bavarians and their neighbours... The Regimental names are genuine, but not all used at the same time, I just liked em! They also make a change from the usual ones that are seen around... :D Flags are my own but not too far away from the possible...

First up: Infantry regiments Berlo & Prinz Veldenz

Figures are plastics from Mars and Strelets, they don't look too shabby from a distance!! Enjoy...

Best wishes,

Stu.
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: mmcv on 26 June 2020, 10:08:28 PM
They look very spiffy!  :D
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 26 June 2020, 10:14:23 PM
... Degenfeld & Kurfürstin Theresa Leibgard zu Fuss...
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 26 June 2020, 10:25:12 PM
...Rotenberg Company & Veneto Real...
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 26 June 2020, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 26 June 2020, 10:08:28 PM
They look very spiffy!  :D

Thank you Sir!  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 June 2020, 10:33:48 PM
Very nice!  8)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: sunjester on 27 June 2020, 07:09:54 AM
You have done a very nice job there.  =D> =D>
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Steve J on 27 June 2020, 07:41:12 AM
Rather splendid in fact 8).
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 27 June 2020, 07:58:18 AM
Given that Deeside Defenders has Will McNally as a member I know that 20mm plastics are pretty good these days. They also offer a cheap option.
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: FierceKitty on 27 June 2020, 08:11:24 AM
Like 'em.
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Post by: Techno on 27 June 2020, 08:13:04 AM
They look terrific !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 June 2020, 10:33:48 PM
Very nice!  8)

Many thanks Lemmy  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Techno on 27 June 2020, 08:13:04 AM
They look terrific !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil

Thank you Phil  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:33:18 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 27 June 2020, 08:11:24 AM
Like 'em.

Glad you approve FK! Many thanks :-bd
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: paulr on 27 June 2020, 08:33:24 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 27 June 2020, 07:58:18 AM
Given that Deeside Defenders has Will McNally as a member I know that 20mm plastics are pretty good these days. They also offer a cheap option.

Yep... I'm definitely a cheap-skate! They also take up slightly less storage room too...  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:35:58 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 27 June 2020, 07:41:12 AM
Rather splendid in fact 8).

Thank you Steve!  :-bd
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: sunjester on 27 June 2020, 07:09:54 AM
You have done a very nice job there.  =D> =D>

Many thanks Sunjester, much appreciated!  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 27 June 2020, 08:41:34 PM
Last two...

2/3 of the Prince-Archbishop of Salzburg's Leibgarde

Command of the Arco cuirassiers...
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: paulr on 27 June 2020, 08:43:24 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
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Post by: fred. on 27 June 2020, 09:28:44 PM
Great stuff
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 June 2020, 10:01:45 PM
Spot on! I've been eying up those Strelets - you've done a great job!

How was the plastic to work with?
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 June 2020, 07:04:05 AM
I've found that the plastic takes paint well - it's not manufacturer dependant. I have HaT, Airfix and others for Andrevia, no flaking. Also seemed to glue together much better than the 70's stuff. Don't discount em.
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Post by: Techno on 28 June 2020, 07:22:40 AM
Those are splendid, snake !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Orcs on 28 June 2020, 07:38:53 AM
Nicely Done
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 June 2020, 08:18:08 AM
Cool work
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 June 2020, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 June 2020, 07:04:05 AM
I've found that the plastic takes paint well - it's not manufacturer dependant. I have HaT, Airfix and others for Andrevia, no flaking. Also seemed to glue together much better than the 70's stuff. Don't discount em.


Cheers Ian - I had some very difficult stuff from Strelets for a customer a couple years ago and they were a nightmare. On the other hand like you I have a load of HaT and others which have been fine!

I really, truly don't need another project let alone another Lace Wars ish horse and musket one, but...
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: John Cook on 28 June 2020, 01:36:22 PM
I like them a lot!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 June 2020, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 June 2020, 12:13:52 PM
Cheers Ian - I had some very difficult stuff from Strelets for a customer a couple years ago and they were a nightmare. On the other hand like you I have a load of HaT and others which have been fine!

I really, truly don't need another project let alone another Lace Wars ish horse and musket one, but...

If it does cause a problem try washing in luke warm soapy water, Will (MacNally) tells me that that works.
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 June 2020, 06:45:40 PM
I always do that with plastics, since some unfortunate experience with Airfix figures very early on :D
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Post by: mollinary on 28 June 2020, 07:39:45 PM
Excellent work - I love what you have done with the flags in particular.
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Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:00:55 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 28 June 2020, 07:39:45 PM
Excellent work - I love what you have done with the flags in particular.


Thank you Mollinary  :) The flags are all down to the wonders of photoshop... I also liked the idea of having them flying sideways so the designs can be seen a bit clearer; it also hides to a certain extent, that strange effect so often seen on miniature battlefields, where the wind blows in opposite directions!!!! :D
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:02:07 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 28 June 2020, 01:36:22 PM
I like them a lot!

Many thanks John, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 June 2020, 08:18:08 AM
Cool work

Thank you Lemmey  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:04:11 PM
Quote from: Orcs on 28 June 2020, 07:38:53 AM
Nicely Done

Thank you Orcs  :D
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: Techno on 28 June 2020, 07:22:40 AM
Those are splendid, snake !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil

Many thanks Techno!, Very much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 27 June 2020, 10:01:45 PM
Spot on! I've been eying up those Strelets - you've done a great job!

How was the plastic to work with?

Thanks TP... I've had no problems really with the plastic apart from trying to clean up mould lines, it doesn't cut particularly cleanly and can leave areas quite rough, even when using a new scalpel blade... I use cheap hobby acrylics to paint them, sometimes 'improved' with artists acrylic and then varnished with matt acrylic varnish, I've had no issues with paint flaking and they seem pretty robust!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: fred. on 27 June 2020, 09:28:44 PM
Great stuff

Many thanks Fred  :)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: paulr on 27 June 2020, 08:43:24 PM
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Thank you Paulr  :D
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 June 2020, 11:40:35 PM
Quote from: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:12:27 PM
Thanks TP... I've had no problems really with the plastic apart from trying to clean up mould lines, it doesn't cut particularly cleanly and can leave areas quite rough, even when using a new scalpel blade... I use cheap hobby acrylics to paint them, sometimes 'improved' with artists acrylic and then varnished with matt acrylic varnish, I've had no issues with paint flaking and they seem pretty robust!

You've done a cracking job - I often sub in similar paints, some are surprisingly cheap!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: paulr on 29 June 2020, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: snake777 on 28 June 2020, 09:00:55 PM
... I also liked the idea of having them flying sideways so the designs can be seen a bit clearer; it also hides to a certain extent, that strange effect so often seen on miniature battlefields, where the wind blows in opposite directions!!!! :D

A strange effect indeed, in my recent ECW I had the Royalist flags flying to the right and Parliament to the left ;)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: paulr on 29 June 2020, 06:36:37 AM
A strange effect indeed, in my recent ECW I had the Royalist flags flying to the right and Parliament to the left ;)

I like to think the standard bearer has just been giving the flag a vigorous wave from side to side. Though given the tendency we have of oversizing flags at times it's a wonder he doesn't fall over!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 29 June 2020, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 June 2020, 11:40:35 PM
You've done a cracking job - I often sub in similar paints, some are surprisingly cheap!


Have to agree with this TP. I have a few expensive paints but I find that the cheap ones work just as well, and at these small scales the difference is not really noticeable...
Title: !!!
Post by: snake777 on 29 June 2020, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: paulr on 29 June 2020, 06:36:37 AM
A strange effect indeed, in my recent ECW I had the Royalist flags flying to the right and Parliament to the left ;)

;D The Gods of War obviously have control over localised micro-climates!!!!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 29 June 2020, 10:25:46 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 05:45:41 PM
I like to think the standard bearer has just been giving the flag a vigorous wave from side to side. Though given the tendency we have of oversizing flags at times it's a wonder he doesn't fall over!

  :D Beefy boyz obviously; those standard bearers!
Title: Re: !!!
Post by: paulr on 30 June 2020, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: paulr on 29 June 2020, 06:36:37 AM
A strange effect indeed, in my recent ECW I had the Royalist flags flying to the right and Parliament to the left ;)
Quote from: snake777 on 29 June 2020, 10:23:24 PM
;D The Gods of War obviously have control over localised micro-climates!!!!

When they are facing each other the wind looks to be coming from the Royalist left and Parliament's right, i.e. from one side of the table ;)
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Post by: Ithoriel on 30 June 2020, 01:25:06 PM
No flanking manoeuvres allowed then? ;)
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: paulr on 01 July 2020, 03:50:36 AM
For the 'rare' occasions that flank attacks happen in ECW
Quote from: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 05:45:41 PM
I like to think the standard bearer has just been giving the flag a vigorous wave from side to side. Though given the tendency we have of oversizing flags at times it's a wonder he doesn't fall over!
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: Terry37 on 05 July 2020, 03:38:50 PM
Very nicely done!!! A favorite period for me. Love your choice of blue for the Bavarians too!

Terry
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 06 July 2020, 04:46:33 PM
Quote from: Terry37 on 05 July 2020, 03:38:50 PM
Very nicely done!!! A favorite period for me. Love your choice of blue for the Bavarians too!

Terry

Many thanks Terry, I have been very entertained by the great 'Bavarian Blue' debate... Mine is a mix of Ultramarine blue, white & light grey, any variations between battalions I put down to the natural effects of fading!!! :D
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Post by: DHautpol on 06 July 2020, 10:43:03 PM
Well done, these are very nice; very characterful mouldings and well painted.

The "Bavarian Blue" has come out very nicely too; although my preference is for the Humbrol "WWI German Light Blue" (No.109), my only use for enamels these days.
Title: Re: Pseudo-Bavarians & Wayward Venetians...
Post by: snake777 on 07 July 2020, 05:50:56 PM
Quote from: DHautpol on 06 July 2020, 10:43:03 PM
Well done, these are very nice; very characterful mouldings and well painted.

The "Bavarian Blue" has come out very nicely too; although my preference is for the Humbrol "WWI German Light Blue" (No.109), my only use for enamels these days.

Thank you DHautpol  :) I must admit I haven't used enamels in decades!!