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Title: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 04 June 2020, 01:46:59 AM
We're at Day 4 of the '10 Days of Shiny' and it's a big one!  We know that a lot of you have been eagerly awaiting this release so we're very excited to have our new Feudal Japanese range now available!

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/slideshow/NewJapanese.jpg)

We've replaced and expanded our old Samurai range with more codes, more poses, more equipment... more everything really.  We've got infantry and cavalry, monks and ninjas, guns and drums, casualties, banners, civilians and more.  Everything you could possbly want for your Japanese armies...

Renaissance
Feudal Japanese - https://pendraken.co.uk/renaissance/16th-c-feudal-japanese/
FEU1   Foot command (20)   £3.75
FEU2   Ashigaru with naginata   £5.50
FEU3   Ashigaru with longbow   £5.50
FEU4   Ashigaru with yari upright (15)   £2.75
FEU5   Ashigaru with yari angled (15)   £2.75
FEU6   Ashigaru with arquebus    £5.50
FEU7   Samurai with longbow    £5.50
FEU8   Samurai with naginata   £5.50
FEU9   Samurai with katana   £5.50
FEU10   Samurai with yari   £5.50
FEU11   Peasants with longbow   £5.50
FEU12   Peasants with arquebus   £5.50
FEU13   Peasants with improvised weapons   £5.50
FEU14   Sohei monks   £5.50
FEU15   Ikko-Ikki monks   £5.50
FEU16   Ninjas   £5.50
FEU17   Mounted Samurai with longbow   £5.50
FEU18   Mounted Samurai with naginata   £5.50
FEU19   Mounted Samurai with yari   £5.50
FEU20   Emplaced gun with crew (2)   £5.50
FEU21   Foot generals group (4)   £1.00
FEU22   Mounted general and bannerman (2)   £1.00
FEU23   Taiko drum and drummers   £1.00
FEU24   Takeda Shingen   £0.55
FEU25   Uesugi Kenshin   £0.55
FEU26   Tokugawa Ieyasu   £0.55
FEU27   Oda Nobunaga   £0.55
FEU28   Ashigaru casualties (10)   £1.85
FEU29   Samurai casualties (10)   £1.85
FEU30   Civilians   £5.50
FEU31   Sashimono banners, small (10)   £1.85
FEU32   Sashimono banners, large (10)   £3.50
FEU33   Uma Jirushi banners (5)   £1.00
FEU34   Horse hair banners (5)   £1.00
FEU35   Pavise (10)   £1.85
FEU36   Bamboo palisade (10)   £4.00
FEU37   Kuruma Date mobile shield (3)   £4.50
FEU38   Bamboo bundles (10)   £1.85
Feudal Japanese Army Pack - Contains 1 pack each of FEU1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 17, 18, 21, 22     £34.00


And of course some pics:

FEU2 - Ashigaru with naginata
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5008/FEU2.jpg)

FEU9 - Samurai with katana
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5015/FEU9.jpg)

FEU16 - Ninjas
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5022/FEU16.jpg)

FEU20 - Emplaced gun with crew
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5026/FEU20.jpg)

FEU23 - Taiko drum
(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5029/FEU23.jpg)


Day 5 will see us back over to Minibits for something MDF-y...


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 June 2020, 03:02:47 AM
Have to get a few of those, alas.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Steve J on 04 June 2020, 06:49:13 AM
That's a very nice range and they should make some very colourful looking armies 8).


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 04 June 2020, 06:50:36 AM
Wooo!

These look great. A very comprehensive range too.  Now to work out what I want!


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mmcv on 04 June 2020, 07:16:04 AM
Superb! Definitely on the Todo list.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: monkeynut on 04 June 2020, 07:17:41 AM
Very tempting 🤨😃

🐵


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Shedman on 04 June 2020, 07:47:58 AM
Lovely


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 June 2020, 08:16:46 AM
Superb! Definitely on the Todo list.

Is the Todo a minor but significant clan?


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: ianrs54 on 04 June 2020, 08:47:22 AM
Nice stuff !


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Steve J on 04 June 2020, 09:06:47 AM
Quote
Is the Todo a minor but significant clan?

You beat me to it :D!


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Westmarcher on 04 June 2020, 09:26:36 AM
Just to get everyone in the mood, here's a link to Little Wars TV's video on 4th Kawanakajima game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn2_1PZgKsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn2_1PZgKsY)

Is the Todo a minor but significant clan?

 :D Reminds me of the time I first saw Sushi for sale on the shelves at Harrods; when I read the packaging I initially thought that Togo was the name of the food manufacturer ..... (!)   :-[


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mad lemmey on 04 June 2020, 09:47:36 AM
Those are awesome!


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Techno on 04 June 2020, 10:07:28 AM
My compliments to the chef !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: ianrs54 on 04 June 2020, 10:17:16 AM
Not yours then Phil ?  :d


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Big Insect on 04 June 2020, 11:55:13 AM
Very nice indeed

Well done all

Mark


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fsn on 04 June 2020, 04:28:39 PM
I do not need a new project ...
I do not need a new project ...
I do not need a new project ...
I do NOT need a new project ...

I am not going to look over to the Japanese book shelf ...

I am not going to look at the Tale of Genji ...

I am not ....

I am not ...

I am ...

I am doomed ...


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: rangerdad on 04 June 2020, 05:06:35 PM
Leon - you complete and utter .....  :o

 ;) well done on another great range of figures  ;D - I'll have to get a second job at this rate !


Does anyone have any links for good info on Japanese clans/warlords/armies please ?


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 04 June 2020, 05:46:38 PM
I do not need a new project ...
I do not need a new project ...
I do not need a new project ...
I do NOT need a new project ...

I am not going to look over to the Japanese book shelf ...

I am not going to look at the Tale of Genji ...

I am not ....

I am not ...

I am ...

I am doomed ...

Donít fight it.

Give in to the inevitable.



Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fsn on 04 June 2020, 07:00:24 PM
There's already another tab on my spreadsheet.  :(


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Orcs on 04 June 2020, 08:16:34 PM
Lovely Figures, but fortunately for me not my period. Mind you I said that about the peninsular Napoleonic's and ended up buying the village, mules and civvies.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 04 June 2020, 10:18:27 PM
Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mmcv on 04 June 2020, 10:35:22 PM

Does anyone have any links for good info on Japanese clans/warlords/armies please ?

https://www.samurai-archives.com has good info, as does http://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/?m=1.

Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

They tended to be worn by everyone, especially by the Sengoku Jidai (16th century civil war period). Larger ones tended to mark commanders, but even the commoners wore small ones and the tall varieties (often requiring a couple of men to maneuver) tended to be used as signal devices to tell a unit where to go.

The bamboo rolls served a similar roll to sandbags, creating barricades and something to absorb all the lead flying at you. At one point the Japanese were producing more guns than anywhere else in the world by some accounts so defensive emplacements were common. Combined with the palisades this would produce some deadly kill zones, as the Takeda cavalry found out at the Battle of Nagashino.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: DaveH on 04 June 2020, 10:39:08 PM
Tell me about Sashimino banners, please peeps.

Large or Small?

Who carries them, just Samurai, and what proportion of a unit?

The other banners, are these just a preference thing?

Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

Sashimono would be worn by both Samurai and Ashigaru. Not necessarily all of a unit would be wearing them as they are pretty big and could get in the way. Not sure if I've seen an estimate of actual numbers worn and I'll have to dig up my books to see if any of them give a clue.

Large or small would depend on the actual clan and its heraldry, so if you are using historical ones you would need a bit of research.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 04 June 2020, 10:43:09 PM
Thanks both. Very helpful.

Any suggestions on a good intro book?


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 June 2020, 10:44:45 PM
They weren't only flags, either.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 04 June 2020, 11:26:47 PM
Extremely handy to supply Irregular Wars eastern lists:
 * Japanese (obvs)
 * Figures for Eastern Pirate raiding fleets.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 04 June 2020, 11:29:58 PM
Do the rolls of bamboo have any particular purpose, or are they just useful decoration?

As mmcv says, they were used as improvised defences in a variety of ways.  Our sculptor had made a single one for us to duplicate for the Kuruma Date shield, so we thought we might as well pop it in the range as well.  I've attached a picture our sculptor sent us of a selection of defences (ignore his writing on it!)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 June 2020, 12:17:48 AM
This is a useful resource for sashimono and other banners. Sadly marred by Photobucket's stupid overlays, but still useable because if you follow the link to Photobucket itself you can see the image without it.

http://www.samurai-archives.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1638

For example, my favourite clan (the "Red Devils") the Ii.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/k145/evalerio0160/Samurai/IINaomasaNEW.jpg)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 05 June 2020, 07:14:11 AM
Thanks Leon, great picture

And Ithoriel what a great if somewhat overwhelming resource.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mad lemmey on 05 June 2020, 07:38:02 AM
Fred, it is searchable, I used it for my Uesugi


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Big Insect on 05 June 2020, 11:12:40 AM
As mmcv says, they were used as improvised defences in a variety of ways.  Our sculptor had made a single one for us to duplicate for the Kuruma Date shield, so we thought we might as well pop it in the range as well.  I've attached a picture our sculptor sent us of a selection of defences (ignore his writing on it!)

The stacked bails of bamboo in bottom right hand corner also look interesting.
As does that mobile siege platform ... but I'd like a Portable Shrine before either please  :D pretty please  :D

I also like the Horo -tsukaiban standard from the resources sheet - very interesting.

Cheers
Mark


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Dave Fielder on 05 June 2020, 11:46:43 AM
Little Wars TV has a very nice Battle of Kawanakajima Scenario: http://www.littlewarstv.com/members-only/category/e108-kawanakajima (http://www.littlewarstv.com/members-only/category/e108-kawanakajima)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 June 2020, 01:25:47 PM
Leon, a very small niggle in the face of such a great new range but I believe FEU33 should be "Uma Jirushi banners (5)" not "Uma Jinushi banners (5)" as listed currently.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Dave Fielder on 05 June 2020, 01:29:12 PM
#Seppuku is the only way out from this  :o


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 05 June 2020, 05:41:18 PM
... but I'd like a Portable Shrine before either please  :D pretty please  :D

Is that the big gold box carried by about 16 blokes?!  I'll see what we can do...

Leon, a very small niggle in the face of such a great new range but I believe FEU33 should be "Uma Jirushi banners (5)" not "Uma Jinushi banners (5)" as listed currently.

Good spot, I've updated that.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 June 2020, 05:47:50 PM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10187.0.html


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 05 June 2020, 05:49:31 PM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10187.0.html

Yeah, that's what I'd seen elsewhere.  It's not a difficult piece to do, a bit fiddly but we can talk to one of our designers about it.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 05 June 2020, 07:18:27 PM
A portable shrine would be cool


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Nick the Lemming on 05 June 2020, 09:46:06 PM
Some mounted ikko ikki / monks would be cool too...


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Dannyboy on 06 June 2020, 03:29:04 AM
Simply superb range of figs, and surely should prove popular for an authentic mass effect of the later Samurai period. Plus one for a portable shrine, and can we have a pack of Nobori banner bearers, these were the tall household banners of the elite Daimyo. Please see third figure from left below:
https://twitter.com/KingsfordMinis/status/1043626807604346880/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/KingsfordMinis/status/1043626807604346880/photo/1)

Outstanding resource of Samurai Heraldry
http://www.johnstuart.biz/historical_artwork_of_samurai_ba.htm (http://www.johnstuart.biz/historical_artwork_of_samurai_ba.htm)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 June 2020, 04:29:52 AM
Nobori are effortless conversions. Just use a pikeman.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Big Insect on 06 June 2020, 03:55:27 PM
Is that the big gold box carried by about 16 blokes?!  I'll see what we can do...

You got it Leon - ideal for scenarios with belligerent monks - forcing local villagers & townsfolk to knee and respect it - thanks  :D

I'd also like a lot more Ikko Ikki type fighting peasant variants if possible - I'll have to do a search for images - but I remember seeing some contemporary wood-cuts of the Ikko Ikki in a rag-bag mix of looted helmets (no armour) and assorted bits of armour such as just a breast plates or just the arm armour (the bag type mail sleeves - tied across the shoulders) - or even just the armoured tasset-skirts off a harness. Those without helmets with headbands. All in smock type tops and bear legs - running with a mix of long shafted polearms, yari and just sharpened bamboo sticks.  It's an army I have always wanted. And you'd need a heck of a lot of figures.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 June 2020, 04:15:11 PM
Careful. Check the dates. I've got a lot of woodblock prints (not woodcuts) that are no more contemporary with Sengoku battles than I am with the Crimean war.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 June 2020, 06:01:29 PM
All in smock type tops and bear legs

Talking of bears legs :) (nice typo btw)... and the rest of the bear .... any chance they're included in 10 Days of Shiny? One can hope!


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fsn on 06 June 2020, 06:12:59 PM
That was masterful Ithoriel, absolutely beautiful.

You are the Master.

(http://i.imgur.com/a0xJKJR.png&key=b1b7d6c8fe64571bfe4a60001d25b162b24ac6d307422041ddcb3fdc9e7b7e9a)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: rct75001 on 07 June 2020, 02:45:55 AM
Wonderful to see these released.  Doing my research on what I need for a few big armies.

I need to ask then ..... how are the Castle Arts buildings going?  Maybe has been mentioned but I couldn't see it.

Thanks
Richard


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 08 June 2020, 01:20:49 AM
I need to ask then ..... how are the Castle Arts buildings going?  Maybe has been mentioned but I couldn't see it.

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19837.0.html

 ;)


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: rct75001 on 08 June 2020, 03:00:42 AM
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19837.0.html

 ;)

Excellent - thanks


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Glorfindel on 08 June 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Really pleased to see these figures released.   Castle Arts buildings as well !   Almost
sounds like it was planned  :D


>>Outstanding resource of Samurai Heraldry
http://www.johnstuart.biz/historical_artwork_of_samurai_ba.htm

Excellent find - thank you !


Phil




Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 01:05:07 PM
Thats a great resource - they do look like they are from the same artist as linked to earlier, but here they are all together in one place.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: DaveH on 08 June 2020, 01:17:31 PM
If I didn't have a lot of 15mm Samurai in the lead pile, I'd have been buying a lot of these.

Those resources linked will be a great help with finally getting those 15mm ones painted and I might be after the buildings.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 08:48:44 PM
A link to a some great 6mm armies over on LAF http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=102281.0

You will see that FK and myself have seen the progression of these. Interesting that he has used the Castle Arts buildings


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 08:52:48 PM
Great blog on the period: https://tenkafubu608971038.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 01 July 2020, 09:18:02 PM
Anyone know what the middle Sohei monk is wielding?

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/5020/FEU14.jpg)

I suppose what really matters is, is the top part is metal or wooden?


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Glorfindel on 01 July 2020, 09:50:41 PM
I've just tried a google query 'Sohei Monks' and most are shown wielding a naginata.

From Wikipedia:
"The most traditional weapon of the monk, however, was the naginata, a weapon much like the
Chinese guandao or podao European glaive..."

Metal blade and either wooden or metal pole.


Phil


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: mmcv on 01 July 2020, 09:52:17 PM
Yeah I was going to say naginata, so metal.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 01 July 2020, 09:54:45 PM
Thanks both - I'd wondered that, but thought it seemed a bit straight compared to naginta on other figures


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: YORSTONS on 08 August 2020, 07:09:35 PM
Really great range, lovely figures. Any chance of some more character figures and some ammo carriers.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: fred. on 08 August 2020, 10:49:16 PM
Really great range, lovely figures. Any chance of some more character figures and some ammo carriers.

Ammo carriers would be great.


Title: Re: New Feudal Japanese released!
Post by: Leon on 08 August 2020, 11:11:25 PM
Potentially, we'll see how the sales go and then we can look at some additions next year.