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Title: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 04:19:20 PM
As I've been moving away from a one project at a time approach to a little bit of everything approach over the past 6-8 months I figure single project threads like my previous ones ( http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,18100.0.html and http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,18188.0.html) don't really work as well so wanted to create a single thread to post about ongoing projects.

My original title for this thread was Matthew's Marvelous Miscellany but alas that fell afoul of the apostrophe bug!

The following posts will cover some of what I've been up to the past while. Not photographed are the 200 or so crusaders that I've painted recently and have only just received the bases for, so that will be coming in future when I can paint up a few command figures and face the basing marathon and flag making required!

As we've had some good weather I was able to get a lot of my backlog varnished and was able to photograph them all, so will be posting here over the next while.

Enjoy!

Matthew
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 04:27:35 PM
Look damn fine, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 04:34:26 PM
First up some new command elements for my Crusaders and Saracen forces. I have an idea on using these guys for a campaign so you'll be seeing them again in future complete with names and backgrounds when the Barony of Nusquam and the Emirate of Lamakan come to blows in the far reaches of the middle east.

Figures are a mix of Pendraken and Irregular I believe.

The Crusaders:

(https://i.imgur.com/PEeHPqB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZmQfyEI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4VdAMJ7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y3r7Trf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Et6I4qn.jpg)

The Saracens:

(https://i.imgur.com/MRjiTM2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NmgD94n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2CL00vo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sxY2VQo.jpg)

And as a bonus a few marker units to represent spears/lances/heroes:

(https://i.imgur.com/PVNZype.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 May 2020, 04:39:54 PM
Bright and cheerful lot. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 04:42:06 PM
Next up filling the major gap in the forces of Islam is a whole lot of light cavalry and hordes of horse archers.

(https://i.imgur.com/dQcbosA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vt6G90n.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lci599S.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pUqmu8D.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P4U7fKV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4KMNIxK.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 04:56:49 PM
Those really are the bee's knees, Matthew !
Big 'pat on the back'......Love 'em !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 04:57:52 PM
Around Christmas last year I went on a bit of a rare fantasy binge after watching too much Critical Role and playing a few fantasy games like 4 Against Darkness. Plan to use these for Sellwords and Spellslingers if the fantasy urge comes round again. Or is it Spellslingers and Sellswords.

Had a lot of fun with the Pendraken fantasy range and used it to experiment with different techniques for painting and basing, for instance airbrushing, different use of dry brushing and highlights as well lighting and metallics. Was a nice change of pace from batch painting large armies.

First up some undead:

(https://i.imgur.com/eTAMIyp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7VO9blm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kLwJEK5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HyZuDx0.jpg)

The necromancer I spent a fair bit of time experimenting with, especially the glowing eyes on his staff and the light and shadow effects from that.

(https://i.imgur.com/FMHpb77.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J6w2lh0.jpg)


Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 05:09:13 PM
And now the good guys:

(https://i.imgur.com/XpAOu58.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bmw8bqg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6qcA9Y0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E5yYOlr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Jt7JDbL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CFMSbW8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5tVCODz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9bfqbPh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fPQZu0o.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dyeDPke.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ViYpdpo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Egyc6Zm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EI9rppJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RjdvwAs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MegCq2C.jpg)

And given the time of year I was painting these added a bit of festive cheer:

(https://i.imgur.com/XEQw4OS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7OXV9kr.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 05:12:11 PM
Thanks Alexander and Phil!

More to come later when we visit the Crimea and Mexico...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 May 2020, 05:19:17 PM
Very nice work there!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 30 May 2020, 06:10:59 PM
Cracking stuff  :-bd

Nice to see Phil getting out for some fresh air  :o

(https://i.imgur.com/7VO9blm.jpg)

(Just in front/right of the grub!)  ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 30 May 2020, 06:42:01 PM
Is he doing the Time Walk?





Very fond of the Time Walk is our Phil.

Doesn't get out to the shows much ... not now his legs can't take the stockings.

He can still manage the jumps to the left and the jumps to the right, but the pelvic thrusts ... strong men have been known to faint 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 06:54:06 PM
Nah...That's not a selfie.

Hair's too short.

Pelvic thrusts ?..With MY back ?

Belting work, again, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2020, 07:03:10 PM
What a great thread!

I love the title too, and I don't think it will disappoint from what we have seen, and what is being foreshadowed.

The necromancer is great, you don't often see lighting effects done in 10mm.
A small suggestion, if I may, the bases of his undead could do with a little something more. One thing I have done on similar bases is to paint in lines to represent flagstones, or similar stone floor. If you use a dark and a light colour you can get a bit of 3D effect pretty easily.

The crusades project promises to be epic - looking to see all of these forces together.

The banjo playing samurai ape is certainly unique!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Glad you're enjoying it.

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 30 May 2020, 06:10:59 PM

Nice to see Phil getting out for some fresh air  :o


;D ;D 

Quote from: fred. on 30 May 2020, 07:03:10 PM

The necromancer is great, you don't often see lighting effects done in 10mm.


Thanks, it was something I'd wanted to play around with to make him stand out a bit more. I'd originally included a second light source behind him as well but didn't like the look so went back to having the rest dark to make the staff pop out more.

Quote
A small suggestion, if I may, the bases of his undead could do with a little something more. One thing I have done on similar bases is to paint in lines to represent flagstones, or similar stone floor. If you use a dark and a light colour you can get a bit of 3D effect pretty easily.

Yeah you may be right, I was experimenting a bit with using airbrushing and dry brush over for those bases but don't think I'd enough of a texture in the modelling paste base to pick it up. I still have a stack more undead to play with in the future so may try other basing then.

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The crusades project promises to be epic - looking to see all of these forces together.

For sure, be good to get them all done. Still have a couple more packs of knights I want to paint up and decide if I want to rebase some of the original ones I did on larger bases but I'm pretty close to being able to do some of the bigger battles in the period. Dorylaeum and Arsuf are two I've been planning scenarios for. And just have to finish off a few tents and buildings and I'll be able to start my mini holy war campaign.

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The banjo playing samurai ape is certainly unique!

It certainly is, I felt it needed a suitably epic base. All that's missing is the lightning storm backdrop! Some really fun figures in the fantasy range. Props to Phil as I think he was the sculptor for them? Have a few more of the fantasy figures based and primed for when I fancy a "palate cleanser".

I'll get the rest of the pictures up later tonight or tomorrow hopefully. And maybe lay out some of my plans for the next little while (whether I end up sticking to them is another matter...)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Some really fun figures in the fantasy range. Props to Phil as I think he was the sculptor for them? Have a few more of the fantasy figures based and primed for when I fancy a "palate cleanser".
I'll get the rest of the pictures up later tonight or tomorrow hopefully. And maybe lay out some of my plans for the next little while (whether I end up sticking to them is another matter...)

To be fair....As far as the current fantasy ranges are concerned....... I, at least, 'prettied up' and converted every single figure....Though I did make a good few newies/new bits for each of the ranges.

The only 'army' that was virtually all my own work was the dragonmen.

Very pleased that you're enjoying the ranges !....I had a lot of fun doing them.

Looking forward to the next batch of photo's. :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 11:09:08 PM
Next up we're taking a bit of a diversion into another scale and looking at my 2mm forces for the British and some Turkish allies in the Crimean War. I'm fairly sure I've another 10 or 15 bases of these in a box with the start of the French army but there's enough here to get the gist. I also have around 50 bases of Russians to prime and paint at some point and the French to assemble. All in all, should have enough to cover most of the BBB Crimean War scenarios.

(https://i.imgur.com/3OznC7a.jpg)

Infantry commanders:
(https://i.imgur.com/tXYfzFP.jpg)

Light infantry/skirmishers:
(https://i.imgur.com/Nyjgybn.jpg)

The single line is for veterans, the double line standard infantry:
(https://i.imgur.com/QzyIsbM.jpg)

The Turks in the back:
(https://i.imgur.com/bb6rxVt.jpg)

Artillery, cavalry and general:
(https://i.imgur.com/BJ21wJ0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 11:28:50 PM
And finally we travel to Mexico for some of the glorious Aztec range. These models are beautifully sculpted and a joy to paint given the detail and opportunity for colour. I fear I don't do them justice.

In the one's below I've picked a colour theme for each group but I have some more awaiting finishing touches that are a riot of colour and will be adding even more units soon.

(https://i.imgur.com/ITnGqMV.jpg)

Skirmishers:
(https://i.imgur.com/qC5cVXt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/idK06Rr.jpg)

Eagle and Jaguar Warriors:
(https://i.imgur.com/6y9NTzo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TqUcyTQ.jpg)

The atlatl thrower on the small base is a shock missile marker.

City infantry with attached hero marker:
(https://i.imgur.com/9sSAryg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h5CR2Ko.jpg)

Some "wargamers eye view" shots:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYXCjV7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GyFSx0i.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/InVeLRV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1eYpPIi.jpg)

Close-ups of the markers, some of these came out a little darker than I'd hoped but the heroes have face paint and tattoos:

(https://i.imgur.com/4F7sUR8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2I6kJ6c.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wcOjL3b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ua00AFs.jpg)

And these poor sods who were mangled in the name of casualty markers:

(https://i.imgur.com/EqorUCr.jpg)


Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 11:41:14 PM
That's all the pictures I have so far, other than this:

(https://i.imgur.com/6ZsmTpM.jpg)

"What is that?" I hear you cry in disgust.

On another thread recently I was discussing different ways to make a battle board with an embedded grid. This is experiment 1. Someone suggested the clever idea of using tile spacers, so I've made a small grid using them and will add some paint and flock soon to see how it looks. It'll obviously be a little warped on the thin card but that's fine for the experiment. I did use a fairly lightweight filler here which may not work as well but will see once fully set.

So I'll be tracking any progress on that here as well as future updates on the existing projects, such as the large crusades expansion, more adventures in Mexico, those 2mm Russians and French and some new projects that might join the queue as I recently got the seeds of as Early Imperial China project and a Trojan War project. I've also some ideas and figures based around a 20th-century alt-history project, a 15mm Japanese myth HOTT army or two, plus a load of 32mm zombies. So quite a few different bits to play around with!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 04:06:47 AM
Och, it's the dreaded porridge monster the noo! Man the sporrans and load the usquabaugh! All cabers on deck!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 31 May 2020, 08:02:59 AM
Cracking work, again, Matthew !  :-bd

The Aztecs were also fun to do......Apart from those s*dding back banners. X_X ;).......There was an awful lot of bad language when I was doing those. ~X(

Be interesting to see how the battle-board comes out. From the 'experiment' it looks like you're definitely on the right lines. :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 May 2020, 08:34:38 AM
All looks good to me.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 09:31:38 AM
Thanks!

Quote from: Techno on 31 May 2020, 08:02:59 AM

The Aztecs were also fun to do......Apart from those s*dding back banners. X_X ;).......There was an awful lot of bad language when I was doing those. ~X(


I must say I have found trying to attach the banners pretty frustrating, though have done suggestions to try for the next batch to make it easier.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 May 2020, 10:35:20 AM
Very cool work there
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 11:41:50 AM
Added some brown paint to the porridge monster. The tile spacers aren't too clear currently but hopefully once dry and drybrushed over they'll become more apparent.

Got a bunch of sample brown wall paints in a bargain bucket last year on the basis I'd use them for something like this at some point.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 01:04:32 PM
Och, somehow a chocolate porridge monster isnae so intimidatin'!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 02:12:52 PM
Looks like single spacers just get lost, tried dry brushing and washes but still not clear enough. Have stuck a couple on top of the hidden ones to see if I can blend them in but still stand out.

Also going to try with sticking a couple together then doing it to see if they stand out more after the filler.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: hammurabi70 on 31 May 2020, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 11:09:08 PM
Next up we're taking a bit of a diversion into another scale and looking at my 2mm forces for the British and some Turkish allies in the Crimean War. I'm fairly sure I've another 10 or 15 bases of these in a box with the start of the French army but there's enough here to get the gist. I also have around 50 bases of Russians to prime and paint at some point and the French to assemble. All in all, should have enough to cover most of the BBB Crimean War scenarios.

Special created for Bloody Big Battles usage or for the Crimean War [in Crimea or the Baltic]?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 31 May 2020, 06:27:49 PM
Special created for Bloody Big Battles usage or for the Crimean War [in Crimea or the Baltic]?

Primarily built around the various BBB scenarios, though I'm sure they'll see service elsewhere in time.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 08:28:17 PM
Some more experiments for the board here. Added some tile spacers on top of the ones hidden by the filler and flocking around them. Looking a bit better. Also tried a couple with various bits below the flock to create small mounds.

At the top left I've tried with doubled spacers and waiting some bits to dry. May need another layer of flock.

To the right of that I've hidden a magnet under the flock and have a small clump on ferrous paper drying to see how it works.

(https://i.imgur.com/dvpj3mE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 31 May 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: fsn on 30 May 2020, 06:42:01 PM
Is he doing the Time Walk?





Very fond of the Time Walk is our Phil.

Doesn't get out to the shows much ... not now his legs can't take the stockings.

He can still manage the jumps to the left and the jumps to the right, but the pelvic thrusts ... strong men have been known to faint 


Isn't that the chap to the right of Richard O'Brien - in the red?  :-\

(https://i.imgur.com/7VO9blm.jpg)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 31 May 2020, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: Techno on 30 May 2020, 06:54:06 PM
Nah...That's not a selfie.

Hair's too short.

Pelvic thrusts ?..With MY back ?

Belting work, again, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil

Yes, but remember, these were sculpted a few years back, when we still had hairdressers and other such crazy frivolities  :o
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 31 May 2020, 10:39:20 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 08:28:17 PM
Some more experiments for the board here. Added some tile spacers on top of the ones hidden by the filler and flocking around them. Looking a bit better. Also tried a couple with various bits below the flock to create small mounds.

At the top left I've tried with doubled spacers and waiting some bits to dry. May need another layer of flock.

To the right of that I've hidden a magnet under the flock and have a small clump on ferrous paper drying to see how it works.

Fingers crossed :-SS
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 May 2020, 10:51:50 PM
I take it the Time Walk is like the Time Warp, but slower?  ;D

Some Chinese halberdiers painted up while awaiting things drying tonight.

Alas my master plan of basing everything on a 40x20 standard is ruined by forward pointing polearms which overlap the base edge and cause issues on enemy base contact. Will likely end up basing these on a 40x30.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: notmatthew on 01 June 2020, 02:42:22 AM
Looking good.  Are the Crusaders/Saracens for TTS?


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Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 08:29:45 AM
Quote from: notmatthew on 01 June 2020, 02:42:22 AM
Looking good.  Are the Crusaders/Saracens for TTS?

Not specifically though I have used it for TTS. Initially put it together for Hail Caesar as that was the first rule book I got. This unfortunately meant I started basing cavalry on 50x50 rather than 40x40 on their recommendations. Not a big issue for HC or TtS but the other period specific ruleset I use, Soldiers of God, does favour similar frontage and number of bases. Oh well!

The Aztecs are going to be primary using TtS though.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 09:32:56 AM
Posted the pics all here for anyone who doesn't want to flick through the previous pages on the thread: https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2020/06/01/projects-update-may-2020/
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 10:34:32 PM
Ordered a bunch more packs from Newline to fully kick off Early Imperial China. Not basing the current figures just yet as want to try a mixed figure basing.

The board experiment I still need to add next layer of flocking/grass. The tile spacers when painted to match the flock are looking decent. The magnet under the flock worked well but need to think some more about how the markers on top will look. My experimental marker doesn't blend in as nicely as I'd hoped, though may just need to make the base of it smaller still.

Will maybe grab some pictures in the next day or two.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 01:49:14 AM
I'm waiting for a junk from Navwar. My Han are going into action with naval support next time; with the new crouching tiger catapults, I hope they'll give the Qin a better fight now.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 June 2020, 06:45:42 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 01:49:14 AM
I'm waiting for junk from Navwar.

That is a tad vicious !  :d
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 06:54:49 AM
It's good junk! Especially if it lets me land a unit of Han sword-and-buckler men behind Qin lines.

What is the ancient Tibettan word for "twerp"?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 08:01:44 AM
Good luck with that!

(https://i.imgur.com/CmDC2mt.jpg)

Preview of the Chinese. This colour scheme is what I'm going to use for most of the Chu. The Qin I'll probably go for lots or martial black and red. The Han I'm leaning towards green or yellow.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 10:27:16 AM
I'm given to understand that the Han used red as their imperial colour. Chu made a lot of use of black (or dark charcoal, I suppose). What this implies for pre-imperial commoners, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 10:55:27 AM
I've gone for grey trim/under clothing on them with the white cotton armour and polished scales. Mostly based on the look of the Chu from the historical series "King's War". Somewhat fanciful I'm sure but I like the look and aim to have nice big white flags with a Chu character on it.

The Qin I've always viewed as being quite dark, so plan to do them with dark grey armour and red trim. I know what you mean about the Han, a lot of the artwork tends to show them in a dull reddish or even vaguely purple colour. May give that a go, though as I'm mostly aiming for around the late Warring States, Qin Rebellion and Chu-Han Contention periods I suspect things were a bit more raggedy for Liu Bang and his Han-some devils. And when I come to put the Han up against the Xiongnu I'll likely just draw from whatever's available in the collection.

I may give commands slightly different colouring - e.g. my Chu army will likely have two main commands so may give one grey trim and one blue trim to differentiate. They can all also be used for other states in the period.

Basing wise I'm thinking the Qin will have mixed halberds and crossbows, the Chu mixed halberds and swordsmen and not quite sure on the Han yet.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:00:48 AM
Well, the Han were heirs to the whole lot. Btw, you might find some of the Mongol LC useful for Hsiung Nu.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 11:03:57 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:00:48 AM
Well, the Han were heirs to the whole lot. Btw, you might find some of the Mongol LC useful for Hsiung Nu.

Way ahead of you!  ;D

I've some of them done up as horse archers in my crusades forces, so they will no doubt see service against the Chinese too with a few additions.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:08:38 AM
Why aren't you in Bangkok? We could have had a Hell of a Warring States campaign set up by now!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:08:38 AM
Why aren't you in Bangkok? We could have had a Hell of a Warring States campaign set up by now!

Tempting as that is I can barely cope with the heat levels here at the moment... I suspect Bangkok would be the end of me!

Definitely could be some fun to be had with a Warring States campaign. Lots of opportunities there.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:52:43 AM
Hmmm, last year I was in France for summer, the year before that in England. It was a relief to get back to Thailand, where we've got air-conditioning everywhere.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 11:52:43 AM
Hmmm, last year I was in France for summer, the year before that in England. It was a relief to get back to Thailand, where we've got air-conditioning everywhere.

True, it's the lack of air-con at night that's getting me. The house is well insulated against cold and wet winters...not so helpful when things heat up. Usually, it's only for a week or two a year but it looks like we're in for a warm one this year.

Just have a desktop fan going which isn't really enough to make much difference. Have a bigger stand fan on order but the way the post is going these days could be another week or two.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Chris Pringle on 02 June 2020, 12:03:00 PM
Obviously I like your 2mm BBB Crimean War armies best.   ;)

But lots of other good work on display too. Those Aztecs in particular look very cool.

Chris

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Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 12:05:52 PM
I had a girlfriend here once who'd sleep with the fan running and a "foggy" spray bottle. She just sprayed herself every half hour or so, and seemed to do OK, but for an insomniac bedfellow it was unbearable.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: Chris Pringle on 02 June 2020, 12:03:00 PM
Obviously I like your 2mm BBB Crimean War armies best.   ;)

But lots of other good work on display too. Those Aztecs in particular look very cool.

Chris

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Not that you'd be biased or anything...  ;D

The Aztecs are definitely good fun to paint.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2020, 12:05:52 PM
I had a girlfriend here once who'd sleep with the fan running and a "foggy" spray bottle. She just sprayed herself every half hour or so, and seemed to do OK, but for an insomniac bedfellow it was unbearable.

My wife quite likes the fan going as the hum mutes the sound of the neighbors who seem to wear lead shoes and go to bed quite late, sometimes with an argument for good measure. I'm a pretty poor sleeper at the best of times though.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2020, 01:57:04 PM
Productive lunch break there, added some flock to the test boards, primed the next batch of Chinese and base coated and washed some Mycenean spearmen.

For the more colourful medieval and Aztec figures I'd been using a light grey primer, but for the Myceneans, I went back to black with a white drybrush to bring up the details. Works quite well for less colourful figures as it gives some nice definition between the different areas. Have the Qin test models primed in black to see how it looks with them.

And the dark age huts that I'd ordered to paint up as straw huts for the Aztec camp just arrived.

:D

Now back to work...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 June 2020, 09:31:56 PM
Some Mycenaean spearmen painted up, awaiting an order of some more with tower shields to mix on the bases.

Medieval command primed, have taken tomorrow off work for some much needed R&R so hopefully get a good bit of painting done and maybe tackle the big basing of all the crusader infantry.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 June 2020, 03:50:23 PM
220 Crusaders based.

Phew.

Once dry will touch up and add flags.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 05 June 2020, 05:17:30 PM
That's a lot of cruiser tanks!




(Sorry. Every time I mention Centurions, someone pipes up about the Roman army.)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 June 2020, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: fsn on 05 June 2020, 05:17:30 PM
That's a lot of cruiser tanks!


(Sorry. Every time I mention Centurions, someone pipes up about the Roman army.)

Well.... There were some knights getting based too and they are generally considered the "tanks" of the medieval battlefield. So it kind of tracks...

Pun intended.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 05 June 2020, 07:04:47 PM
 =D> =D> =D>

Well played, Sir. Well played.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 June 2020, 01:53:18 PM
Quite liking the look of the knights based on the 40x40. Have 5 figures to a base. One difficulty I've had on the table is differentiation between knights and men at arms/mounted sergeants, especially in the earlier periods of the crusades.

Have debased 24 figured previously in sixes on 50x50 with the plan of doing them 4 to a 40x40 as men at arms. Then use 5 figures to a 40x40 for heavy cavalry/knights. I've already been doing light cavalry as 3 figures to a 40x40. Will have to make some more knights units and decide if I want to give the same treatment to my existing holy order knights and my mamlukes... It is quite a faff digging them out of their milliput basing.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 06 June 2020, 03:29:26 PM
Sounds like a plan.

I've done something similar to help differentiate between mediums and heavies.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 June 2020, 03:53:43 PM
Rebased and looking well.

Flags all done. Bases touched up. Just leaving to dry.

But going to get any varnishing done until the bad weather passed but may take done photos soon.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 June 2020, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: fred. on 06 June 2020, 03:29:26 PM
Sounds like a plan.

I've done something similar to help differentiate between mediums and heavies.

Yeah works well. I'll probably do something similar with cavalry forces in future though maybe 4,3,2 on a 40x30 for heavy, medium, light.

On the plus side I got an extra unit out of them if I want it. I've still some of the TB line knights unpainted so can make some more knight units out of those then leave the holy orders knights on their 50x50 since they're usually special units anyway. I've a few bases of Templar and Hospitalier sergeants though who could do with a rebase.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 03:02:59 PM
First batch of pictures.

Knights of Jerusalem (TB Line). So much lovely turquoise.

(http://imgur.com/CPxgpuO.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/NVZ2lWa.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/gEkiWXP.jpg)

Yes I'm a mad fool who paints his flags. Easy enough when they're crosses though. Adds a certain homeliness to it.

And some rebased MM knights as Men-At-Arms. I painted these a year or two back, but part of my gradual rebasing of my old Crusader cavalry.

(http://imgur.com/Aa6cAqk.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/q6NRkP1.jpg)

Will get the pictures of the infantry up later today hopefully. So many infantry...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 08 June 2020, 03:33:20 PM
There's a colour you don't see often on a tabletop!



Good stuff. Well done.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 08 June 2020, 03:41:34 PM
Lovely job !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: fsn on 08 June 2020, 03:33:20 PM
There's a colour you don't see often on a tabletop!



Good stuff. Well done.

Thanks, yeah it's got to be one of my favourite paints. Nice pigment and paints on nicely, so enjoy an excuse to use it!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 05:33:51 PM
Liking those, the TB Line knights are very nice.

I've got lots of the Islamic ones, but not these chaps
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: fred. on 08 June 2020, 05:33:51 PM
Liking those, the TB Line knights are very nice.

I've got lots of the Islamic ones, but not these chaps

I'm slightly dreading the Pendraken release of the TB Islamics as even though I've "enough" for most battles I'll likely want to dip into the range and add some bits from it.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 07:07:48 PM
Here's the rest of them, all the infantry, all 200+ of them. Pendraken/TB and a few MM.

(https://i.imgur.com/me6RX6e.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B9HevNg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qEj75MK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zI4J3gK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3GIv7uX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XFAtO4J.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q5dzgZQ.jpg)

Some crossbowmen. These can be fielded as their own unit or attached to infantry. I probably need to do another couple of packs if these at some point.

(https://i.imgur.com/dvPNg5U.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/stNTHth.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SBgnjKO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pmcCdDA.jpg)

Attached

(https://i.imgur.com/C1KtFcc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/138YFUb.jpg)

In the rest of my crusades queue I've a pack of foot knights to paint up, some Eastern infantry as Armenians, tents and civilians, a bunch more mounted knights and a handful of marker pieces. For now.


Think I'm going to need some more storage boxes...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 June 2020, 07:14:09 PM
Excellent work old bean.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 07:38:50 PM
Nice work, that's quite the horde you have now!


Quote from: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 07:07:48 PM

Think I'm going to need some more storage boxes...


As so often is the case. I keep having to explain to my wife that once the figures are painted they take up so much more space then before hand, and this is why more drawers and space for boxes are always needed.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: fred. on 08 June 2020, 07:38:50 PM
Nice work, that's quite the horde you have now!


As so often is the case. I keep having to explain to my wife that once the figures are painted they take up so much more space then before hand, and this is why more drawers and space for boxes are always needed.

Thanks, enough to put on some good games for sure.

I'm currently building some storage boxes/shelves I had got recently, and reorganising my collection a bit. My desk has got exceptionally cluttered so much needed!

A4 plastic boxes with shelves that stack vertically for the figures. Pretty neat storage. Not quite taller than me yet but soon...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 June 2020, 11:02:09 PM
With the desk reorganising paused until new storage solutions arrive I've been taking the opportunity of a reasonably clear desk to start filling the terrain gap in my collection that I'd not the space to make previously.

Currently on the table in various stages of progress are some hills, trees, rough ground and a nice little hilly thicket piece. First time doing anything terrain related though I've been gathering bits with the intention of doing so for a while.

Quite fun and should add a little more interest to my games. Hope to do a crusades game soon now I've the infantry based up (though not varnished yet).

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 12 June 2020, 06:13:16 AM
Lovely work 8). Would have commented earlier but the pics took ages to load, not sure if it's my laptop, internet connection or just large file size :(.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 12 June 2020, 07:28:13 AM
Those look really zippy !  :-bd

Quote from: Steve J on 12 June 2020, 06:13:16 AM
Lovely work 8). Would have commented earlier but the pics took ages to load, not sure if it's my laptop, internet connection or just large file size :(.

They take a fair old while to load here, as well, Steve......I'd guess it's a combination of large file size & slow internet. (Which I certainly have at Techno Towers.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 June 2020, 08:06:11 AM
Thanks guys. They would be the same as all the other pictures I've done. I wonder if having so many in a single post is what does it. May split into separate ones in future when there's a lot of pictures.

Though there have been a lot of internet issues nationwide lately (even though the providers tend to deny it!)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 12 June 2020, 10:40:10 AM
I'm guessing that each individual piccy is a pretty 'big file', M :)

Yours certainly aren't the only ones that take a while to download..... (here in the wilds of Wales)....so I wouldn't worry about it.
I'll check how fast they load onto the tablet a while later....Just as an experiment ;)

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 June 2020, 10:53:13 AM
I rather suspect that you have an old box, my Toshiba takes an appreicable time whilst the new HP is much quicker. It's mostly a matter of cache.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 June 2020, 10:53:47 AM
Yeah each one is around 3.5MB, as it's just taken with my phone camera and uploaded to imgur then linked and resized from there.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 12 June 2020, 12:27:41 PM
That explains why they take a while to load chez moi.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 June 2020, 11:14:52 PM
Some more work on the terrain. Set of trees, patch of rough ground and a piece of impassible terrain all drying. Two hills shaped and awaiting painting. Think I'll use the airbrush on them as would take too long and too much paint to do by hand! Would be a good opportunity to airbrush all those 2mm Russians too...

Also painted and based a base of Qin mixed infantry and two of Chu standard infantry for my Chinese ancients. Pictures once dried and base finishing touches done.

Began prepping some chariots. Need to decide basing for chariots. Given I'm mostly doing mini units at present (40x20 or 40x40) then a single chariot on a 40x40 would represent a unit of chariots but I don't like the idea of just one chariot as a unit of chariots, will be too easy to confuse with the General so may do two on a 60 or 80 X 40 instead for the aesthetic. Most rule systems won't really care, and I'll hopefully scale the rest up to an 80mm frontage down the line anyway...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 June 2020, 01:45:41 PM
Some Chinese ancients from Newline finished up (other than varnishing).

First up a base of Qin mixed infantry (Ji halberd and crossbow):

(https://i.imgur.com/VNONlaO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JybnJcM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E812m9j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4E3Hb8A.jpg)




Then some Chu infantry (Ji halberd and swordsmen):

(https://i.imgur.com/3ltv5zl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jYva7Zy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kl4rol7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ntFFiMH.jpg)




I now notice some stray static grass and flock on the figures I'll need to pick off before varnishing! Always the way.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 17 June 2020, 05:35:21 PM
Nice !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 June 2020, 06:48:30 PM
Different and cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 17 June 2020, 08:28:51 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 June 2020, 10:47:37 PM
Thanks chaps. Some Qin chariots today, plus some flags for the command chariot.

The glue I used to attach the horses to the chariot though went all white and crusty so will have to do a bit of scraping and repainting when the base dries. :(

Ended up just basing each chariot on a 40x40 as they were much too big to do anything else. Will just act as motivation to get the rest of the forces up to 80x40 in the future once the "mini" version is done...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 10:56:17 PM
Had hoped to get some varnishing done this weekend but the weather didn't suit, nevertheless some pics of what I have unvarnished so far.

Some Qin chariots:

(https://i.imgur.com/xV8oRXr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rky0RVk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B43dAou.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XrD1Rpx.jpg)


Qin General:

(https://i.imgur.com/ckHXTjB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rarPl1O.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BJX0YZS.jpg)

Also have another base of Qin foot and Qin cavalry drying.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 11:02:15 PM
Some Chu additions too:

These (un)impressed spearmen:

(https://i.imgur.com/ylKPmwZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Gdxwurk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/75Tua90.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aSwZBXn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SFObooH.jpg)

They're MM figures rather than Newline and a little more squat looking but okay on separate bases. Will likely use these figures for some yellow turban and red eyebrow rebels in future as their ample foreheads and headgear will work well.

Also have a base of Chu crossbowmen drying.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 11:08:25 PM
Last up some terrain pieces, the colours didn't come out too well on these, they look a bit more natural in real life.

(https://i.imgur.com/fSjBYly.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mTgTXDZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gxQXttw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IJ4kFcC.jpg)

I've also got two hills to paint and flock but will hit them next time I've the airbrush out. Finally I'll have terrain that isn't just bits of card with colouring pencil terrain drawn on!

After taking the photos I also painted a few medieval tents and middle Eastern buildings to use as camps for some upcoming crusades games.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 11:10:38 PM
Some pics on previous page for those who just jumped to latest and can't see the figures for the trees.....

Not sure what's up next, possibly keep up the momentum on the Chinese or dip into the bronze age for a bit. Considering numbering my projects then letting a dice roll decide which I do a unit of next... But for now probably keep up with the Chinese.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 June 2020, 11:12:37 PM
Very nice work
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 June 2020, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 11:10:38 PM
Some pics on previous page for those who just jumped to latest and can't see the figures for the trees.....

Not sure what's up next, possibly keep up the momentum on the Chinese or dip into the bronze age for a bit. Considering numbering my projects then letting a dice roll decide which I do a unit of next... But for now probably keep up with the Chinese.

I remember we used to play the boardgame Civilisation in a group including a dear Chinese. She was so adamant that her people were blocks and streets ahead of everyone else that we ended up renaming the game Catching up with the Chinese.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 23 June 2020, 06:28:47 AM
Nice terrain and figures, with the dark colour scheme on the latter very effective.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 07:41:59 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 11:10:38 PM
Some pics on previous page for those who just jumped to latest and can't see the figures for the trees.....

Glad you mentioned that........They look great !! :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 10:55:40 AM
Thanks guys!

Quote from: FierceKitty on 23 June 2020, 03:06:28 AM
I remember we used to play the boardgame Civilisation in a group including a dear Chinese. She was so adamant that her people were blocks and streets ahead of everyone else that we ended up renaming the game Catching up with the Chinese.

Was there a special event for the Chinese fracturing into 3/7/16/18 different kingdoms every couple of turns?

Quote from: Steve J on 23 June 2020, 06:28:47 AM
Nice terrain and figures, with the dark colour scheme on the latter very effective.

Thanks!, Yeah the Qin are noted for favouring black so thought a black (well dark grey) colour would suit them. Makes them hard to photograph though! The impressed spearmen look a bit darker in the photos than they really are - they're a mid-grey and a dull purple. Left them looking a little more dirty and scruffy looking than the regular troops as they'll generally be "Raw".
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 11:35:06 AM
Matthew. :)

What are you using to take the piccies ?....An actual camera, or some sort of smartphone ?

If it's an actual camera, you might have the facility to alter the 'colour balance'....Depending on the light source you're using.
If it's a smartphone, I can't really give you any help, as I don't know how much you can 'mess around' piccy wise with one of those.

Forbes would probably know...The camera on his phone takes far better piccies than my 'decent' Canon camera.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 June 2020, 12:02:57 PM
That is just your techical ability Phil, and before you say owt, I can never get anything in focus...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: Techno on 23 June 2020, 11:35:06 AM
Matthew. :)

What are you using to take the piccies ?....An actual camera, or some sort of smartphone ?

If it's an actual camera, you might have the facility to alter the 'colour balance'....Depending on the light source you're using.
If it's a smartphone, I can't really give you any help, as I don't know how much you can 'mess around' piccy wise with one of those.

Forbes would probably know...The camera on his phone takes far better piccies than my 'decent' Canon camera.

Cheers - Phil



I'm just using my phone. It does have some colour balancing options and can do some tweaks to the colour and light balance in Google photos too so they mostly come out okay. Think it was mostly just the time of day I was taking them. I had my painting light over to give some additional brightness but the natural light was starting to go a bit as was coming up on 10pm so think it was the balance between the lower natural and artificial lights. Think most of my figure pictures are coming out a bit better recently, especially since trying your trick of using coloured or textured backgrounds to improve the focus. And applying some colour/lighting adjustments before uploading.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 23 June 2020, 12:02:57 PM
That is just your techical ability Phil, and before you say owt, I can never get anything in focus...

;D ;D ;D ;D

Seriously.....Way back when I used to use a 35mm 'film' camera.....There 'were only' two colour balances you had to worry about.....(I'm forgetting 'normal' sunlight, here.)

You had the choice of 'tungsten'.....The OLD 'ordinary' lightbulbs...which gave off a very yellow/orange light....or florescent. (Which gave a horrid green 'cast' to your photo's)

You could get around the colour cast by sticking coloured filters in front of the lens. Pale blue (in three different densities) to counteract the yellow cast of a tungsten light.....and 'orange', again in different densities, to counteract the green effect of florescent lights.

Nowadays.....There won't be many tungsten bulbs in use*....There will be the 'energy saving' florescent type.......Then there's sodium lighting....And I'd have to admit, I haven't got a clue what colour temperature LEDs produce. :o :o :o

I cheat.....By not bothering with changing the settings on the camera itself....Once the photo is taken, I use a couple of programs on the PC and alter the pic, there.
(If I can be bothered, I can do ALL sorts of weird and wacky effects with those.)

If you ever watch a really old TV repeat.....You'll notice that although the room, and the characters look 'normal'......If the camera pans around to a window, where there's natural sunlight coming in,....The window will be a strange blue.

That's because the old lighting that was used in those days was all tungsten (yellowy/orange)...and to get around that, they'd stuck a pale blue filter in front of the camera's lens.

Cheers - Phil

* I've still got LOADS of those...I like them, because they give off more heat...and I can use them to quicken the drying/setting time on the putty....Wot I use.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 01:30:51 PM
Pretty overcast here so light still terrible but some quick buildings and tents:

(https://i.imgur.com/viec5fe.jpg)

Think the tents are IM. The buildings were resins off eBay I got ages ago. There's a few more but they're pretty chipped up so will need some cleanup. These will serve as camps or settlements for raiding.

Also finished up basing if a few bases so pictures when dried.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 01:49:02 PM
Looking good, Matthew !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DaveH on 23 June 2020, 01:52:36 PM
Nice work.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 03:55:48 PM
Thanks 😊

Interestingly I just noticed my Google photos settings was set to original quality rather than high quality compressed. This may explain why the image file sizes have been fairly large. Will switch to compressed for a while and see if there's any large drop in overall quality. Should be smaller files though.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 04:23:15 PM
We await, with anticipation.

I'd guess that there won't be a massive difference, Matey !

Just bung one in, as a test. Won't matter if we've seen the shot before.

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 05:18:51 PM
Some more Qin infantry:

(https://i.imgur.com/5joksb2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UXBAuxO.jpg)

Some Qin heavy cavalry:

(https://i.imgur.com/bFKwLUc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EiAmPod.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/O6GijRe.jpg)

The Chu crossbowmen need a bit more touchup before photographing.

Don't think the quality change it actually made much difference, to file size or quality making the switch. May still be higher quality on my phone and only lower on the cloud. Though since I've been using a bit more zoom and crop on taking images it's halved the file sizes anyway so hopefully load up quickly enough for most!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 05:37:01 PM
And the touched up Chu crossbow:

(https://i.imgur.com/b2RyU6a.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ekPgN5y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2p6Yway.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bfh9T4j.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 June 2020, 07:19:29 PM
The dice gods have decided. My next bit of painting will be from my so far untouched 20th century range that I'm intending for AVBCW (or rather AVNICW) as will be my local region. To the sample bag.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 23 June 2020, 09:41:26 PM
Nice !  :-bd

I don't think it's my imagination.....But I'm pretty sure those were quicker to load.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 24 June 2020, 07:45:35 AM
You're right Phil, quicker to load for me too :).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 June 2020, 04:54:35 PM
All looking ace.  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 June 2020, 07:24:42 PM
Good good. Cheers!

20th century now, these are for my AVBCW project. Don't have any army lists yet as awaiting the BKC SCW supplement for inspiration but got some sample packs last year and been thinking about factions, etc.

These guys are part of the Ulster Protestant League, an ultra-Protestant fascist group.

(https://i.imgur.com/iEcN4e4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kVvwDW4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cArgnyB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wXEu4WM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BysqqE5.jpg)

The figures are SCW Carlist Requetes, a delicious irony given their ultra-Catholic leanings!

(https://i.imgur.com/nFRzlLA.jpg)

The dice of fate has spoken, next up will be back to China.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 June 2020, 07:27:21 PM
Like those
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 25 June 2020, 06:14:40 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 25 June 2020, 06:51:30 AM
Very nice, indeed !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 June 2020, 08:29:11 AM
Nice idea using a die to decide on next task
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 June 2020, 08:46:07 AM
Thanks!

Quote from: ianrs54 on 25 June 2020, 08:29:11 AM
Nice idea using a die to decide on next task

For a long time, I was just focusing on one project at a time and neglecting others, so been trying to work on more varied bits lately. It's a nice way to force me into tackling things I'd been putting off. I'd probably not have gotten to the 20th century for a while if I just kept picking myself so adding a few options to the list I'd been procrastinating is good. I may up to a d8 shortly once I get airbrush set up and can prime a few bigger jobs that would take too long to hand prime.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 25 June 2020, 08:56:28 AM
Nice work and the die roll a neat idea.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 June 2020, 11:32:00 PM
Two more bases worth of Chu infantry painted up. Went with purple and white rather than grey and white for these as they'll be in a different army division.

Hopefully get them based tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 June 2020, 06:21:15 PM
Rolled the dice for next paint job while the bases are drying and came up 20th century again. Really need to do some rereading of BKC to make sure I don't shoot myself in the foot on anything. Will probably go for something safe like another infantry unit.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: hammurabi70 on 26 June 2020, 08:27:12 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 26 June 2020, 06:21:15 PM
Rolled the dice for next paint job while the bases are drying and came up 20th century again. Really need to do some rereading of BKC to make sure I don't shoot myself in the foot on anything. Will probably go for something safe like another infantry unit.

Given the thread on Korea perhaps you should be doing something involving that!  :D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 June 2020, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 26 June 2020, 08:27:12 PM
Given the thread on Korea perhaps you should be doing something involving that!  :D

Haha tempting, as I do like the idea of doing "fringe" or "forgotten wars", but I'm starting off with something a little more "silly" as I'm keen to try the period but haven't been enthused enough by any particular 20th century conflict to really delve in deep. Always been more drawn to ancient, medieval and more recently renaissance/early modern.

20th century stuff always has so much information available it can be difficult to know where to even start with it! So jumping into the AVBCW alt history as you can make it up a bit as you go along and try a hodgepodge of things.

Then hopefully if I get a feel for a particular aspect of it that may encourage me to delve into actual historical conflicts.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 June 2020, 06:29:22 PM
Two more bases of Chu infantry done, purple and white this time as a different army division.

(https://i.imgur.com/jdV1Xe7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aq6yVXM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UqBJI5k.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ultsNzj.jpg)

Haven't started in the next units but been doing some more thinking on fleshing out my AVBCW scenario and factions and I've actually decided to start the divergence date from real history a bit earlier. The English, Scottish and Welsh events of AVBCW will proceed along reasonably standard lines but given the standard line for Ireland is a rather boring "Ireland annexed Ulster and that's all" as far as I can tell, I've created a new divergence point in the 1920s with a very different outcome to the Irish Civil War. More on that later.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 June 2020, 07:43:36 PM
Wow, cool!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 27 June 2020, 10:08:39 PM
Cool indeed 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 28 June 2020, 07:31:59 AM
VERY nice !!.....And the piccies are definitely loading faster !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 June 2020, 11:06:21 PM
 :D

Got a few bases worth of 20th C figures primed and based. Will be painting them on bases rather than sticks as they're quite spread out.

Been spending a lot of time this weekend researching my 20th century timeline. Conveniently there was a Northern Irish census in 1937, right around the kick off point for the alt history civil war. This has allowed me to come up with reasonable faction territories, as well as have some areas for potential revolts. And make maps for who controls what.

My aim will be to play this as somewhat of a narrative campaign. I'm working out some systems around factionalism, resources and morale that will shape events and power throughout. As it'll be likely mostly solo this will let me introduce a bit of randomness into it with special events.

For instance, I'll likely have a factionalism counter, influenced by territory and morale, that when high enough spawns a splinter group. If the splinter group survive the ensuing battle they'll become a fully fledged faction on the map. This should stop any one side from becoming too large and steamrolling all those around.

All in all getting pretty enthused by it. Still a bit off having enough for my first game but think once I've a couple of small forces I'll start with some small engagements to get a feel for the rules before tackling the first major battle of the campaign. With the Spanish Civil War supplement for BKC due out soon it should fit well with what I want to do.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 29 June 2020, 08:09:15 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 28 June 2020, 11:06:21 PM

My aim will be to play this as somewhat of a narrative campaign. I'm working out some systems around factionalism, resources and morale that will shape events and power throughout. As it'll be likely mostly solo this will let me introduce a bit of randomness into it with special events.

For instance, I'll likely have a factionalism counter, influenced by territory and morale, that when high enough spawns a splinter group. If the splinter group survive the ensuing battle they'll become a fully fledged faction on the map. This should stop any one side from becoming too large and steamrolling all those around.


This seems a very good idea, often groups find the enemy within a much easier to fight against rather than an external enemy.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 June 2020, 05:25:23 PM
Quote from: fred. on 29 June 2020, 08:09:15 AM
This seems a very good idea, often groups find the enemy within a much easier to fight against rather than an external enemy.

Yes that's my thinking, probably with some groups being more prone to it than others. E.g. the various socialist and communist factions are probably going to be more prone to division than whats left of the government but will want a way for when a more stable group does have a splinter faction, it's a bit more of a dramatic event. I may be over-engineering a little, and certainly plan to just play a few throw down scenarios to start with without getting too bogged down in a set of campaign rules. The idea will be to use it as a guide to the narrative rather than a strict set of mechanics.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 June 2020, 05:29:16 PM
June update. Features most of the pics I've been popping up here along with some other blether:

https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2020/06/30/projects-update-june-2020/

Will probably have a post on the background for the AVBCW up soon too.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 July 2020, 02:18:27 PM
Few more units done for the AVNICW project. Also a lot of thinking on the background for the conflict (as posted elsewhere).

UPL Machine Gunner

(https://i.imgur.com/mFMHpgu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lvKA3kr.jpg)

UPL infantry

(https://i.imgur.com/lWX3En3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Esjjduo.jpg)

Civilian Militia - these will work as infantry for the socialist/communist factions as well as general militia defending their homes and maybe some guerilla fighters

(https://i.imgur.com/TEv1FbY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Jg6Ekbc.jpg)


I haven't rolled for what's next as I'll be going away for a few days, so can leave it as a surprise for next week.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 July 2020, 02:19:15 PM
Nice.
Roll well!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 02 July 2020, 02:22:34 PM
Ditto !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: OldenBUA on 02 July 2020, 02:37:17 PM
Looking good!

The purple bush will denote affiliation and can be swapped for other colours? Red for the communists obviously, green for newly raised militia? Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 July 2020, 03:18:22 PM
Thanks!

Quote from: OldenBUA on 02 July 2020, 02:37:17 PM
The purple bush will denote affiliation and can be swapped for other colours? Red for the communists obviously, green for newly raised militia? Just a thought.

Yeah that's a possibility. I almost put it on the UPL bases but decided their purple berets and sashes were enough. I've been thinking a bit about representation but haven't anything definitive. I haven't decided if I'll use unit labels or not yet (will see how easy it is to remember stuff when playing) so if I don't that might be an option. I'll likely include a few bases with flag bearers on them which will help identify those units. My initial round of fights won't see militia vs militia for a bit so shouldn't be too much of a concern. Plus with only 5 figures a base they paint up pretty quick so can add in a few splashes of red for communists when needed to differentiate!

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 02 July 2020, 09:13:02 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 July 2020, 08:27:13 PM
And now for something a little bit different. Zombies from Zombicide Black Plague.

I think these are 35mm maybe. The zombies from the original Zombicide game were some of the first figures I painted as was easy to cover up all the mistakes with bloodstains! Don't think I've ever photographed them, but definitely having an easier time with these now after a few years experience.

(https://i.imgur.com/XWktJiN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iYjzXgA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CF9Aah1.jpg)

Not sure what to do with the bases, just gone with a sandy brown for now then will maybe do something with them once I've them all painted so it's consistent.

Nine down, sixty two to go...  :-X

The dice say my next paint job is moving to 15mm and Japanese folklore.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2020, 08:53:43 PM
Looking good, Matthew !  :)

Not sure what I'd suggest, re the bases.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 July 2020, 09:14:42 PM
Bases work
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 08 July 2020, 09:46:44 PM
Something fairly pale and simple should work for bases - assuming that the mat they are on is typical for the game.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 July 2020, 10:30:41 PM
Thanks. I think I'll likely keep the base colour but apply a little "weathering" with different brown and grey tones. I did something similar with the modern zombies for the original, a dark grey base with some lighter grey dry brush streaks to work on tarmac city boards. And some blood spatters of course. The board I photographed on is fairly typical of the game board yeah.

Got a handful of 15mm figures base coated and washed there. Shouldn't take too much to apply touchup and highlights when dry. I've not really done 15mm before so a bit strange as it's somewhere between the "paint the unit" of the smaller scales and the "paint the figure" of the larger ones.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 July 2020, 04:04:27 PM
15mm Tanuki (Japanese Racoon Dog) Archers for a HotT army. Not entirely happy with these, they're a little too dark still, and the colours aren't quite popping like I want. Think I'll maybe redo the faces and add some patterns to the clothes, but putting them aside for now and will return in future as I'm not really having fun with them right now.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xs66u4y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HCnoOVv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KbMep2Y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kUesl5Y.jpg)

Back to the real world with some Aztecs next.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 July 2020, 04:19:49 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO trhe dreded "A" word......

Dont tell Kitty but I have some 6mm ones
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 July 2020, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 09 July 2020, 04:19:49 PM
Dont tell Kitty but I have some 6mm ones

Not a word...

;D ;D ;D

By Aztecs I, of course, mean the Mexica of the Nahua altepetl of Tenochtitlan who probably would not have called themselves Aztecs, but may have recognised the "People from Aztlan" moniker as part of their identity.

Just in case there was any confusion.

Though I will also be doing other Mesoamerican peoples with the same figures so that could lead to further confusion as they're definitely not Aztecs.

But kind of are.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 09 July 2020, 04:44:37 PM
Yep ;)....They do look a tad too dark, at the mo', Matthew.

Maybe the black undercoat/bases isn't/aren't helping ?

A bit of your usual skill will easily put those right.....I have no doubt, at all. :)

Cheers - Phil.  :)

PS.....Your cutting mat is FAR too clean.....And I feel quite faint.....knowing that Ian has actually got some Aztecs on his desk. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 July 2020, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: Techno on 09 July 2020, 04:44:37 PM
Yep ;)....They do look a tad too dark, at the mo', Matthew.

Maybe the black undercoat/bases isn't/aren't helping ?

A bit of your usual skill will easily put those right.....I have no doubt, at all. :)

Cheers - Phil.  :)

PS.....Your cutting mat is FAR too clean.....And I feel quite faint.....knowing that Ian has actually got some Aztecs on his desk. :o :o :o :o

Yeah I think for the skin tone/fur I should probably try a dark brown with the white over the top, rather than the dark grey and the white, might lift them a bit more. Don't want them to look too white though.

My cutting mat isn't that clean, just that section in the photo had a pile of bits and bobs sitting on it for ages so wasn't able to gather a proper patina of stains. The lower half of my mat is well splattered in paint, ink, primer and encrusted on bits of milliput from years ago, don't you worry.

;D



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 July 2020, 02:39:55 AM
I had some 6mm ones too in my young and ignorant days.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 July 2020, 02:04:37 PM
Here we go, this colourful unit is led by the warrior priests who had a whole different military and rank structure from the secular military forces.

(https://i.imgur.com/LeEodSp.jpg)

The poor slinger at the front has a bit of grass in his face, but like a true warrior he's still slinging away.

(https://i.imgur.com/73c8cVj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/b6p66ii.jpg)

Haven't determined what my next paint job will be, will roll the dice when I'm ready to do it and see what comes up!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 July 2020, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 13 July 2020, 02:04:37 PM
Here we go, this colourful unit is lead ...

...because it's a cheap, easily cast, and durable material.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 July 2020, 02:24:52 PM
...sneaky edit...

No idea what you're talking about.

New page, new pictures on previous!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 July 2020, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 13 July 2020, 02:14:03 PM
...because it's a cheap, easily cast, and durable material.

Ironically enough I do use led/lead as an intentional pun in the name of my blog.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 July 2020, 05:43:41 PM
Very cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 14 July 2020, 07:04:14 AM
Looking very good, that man !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 July 2020, 09:16:09 PM
Thanks  :)

Next up we are going back to the bronze age for the first unit in my Trojan War project.

As this is a somewhat finite project (naivety I'm sure) I've gone with bigger bases with the aim of doing more diorama style, especially for some of the more famous characters and units. At 80x40 they'll still fit comfortably on a dining table sized game but give a bit more space for laying out, especially when it comes to chariots, amazons and great heroes.

First up is a reasonably simple unit of bronze age axemen I'm using as Halizonian troops on the Trojan side, led by Odius and Epistrophus. They are from "Alybe far away, where is the birth-place of silver" thought to be somewhere on the Black Sea. Not much else is known of them but quite liked the idea of some axemen in the mix so seemed as good a fit as any.

(https://i.imgur.com/FFmtdci.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WXSZymD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t3bG3Xr.jpg)

The leader has an axe made of that strange metal that falls from the stars, or iron as we now know it. They did have iron in the bronze age, just didn't know how to smelt it from ore so pure sources were rare.and precious, usually from meteorites.

I'll likely add some grass tufts and scene dressing to the base down the line, but want to do them all together for the project so it's consistent. So just a basic sandy brown for now.

Dice rolled for the Trojan War again so going to do some archers.



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 16 July 2020, 09:36:58 PM
I like them!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 July 2020, 09:42:36 PM
Veeery nice!

I do like Bronze Age armies, not least for the regular inclusion in the sources of troops from places we can no longer locate with any certainty. Gives lots of scope for the imagination.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 July 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Thanks  :)

Quote from: Ithoriel on 16 July 2020, 09:42:36 PM
I do like Bronze Age armies, not least for the regular inclusion in the sources of troops from places we can no longer locate with any certainty. Gives lots of scope for the imagination.

Yeah definitely, the iron axe was inspired by the possible association with the Chaldeans, who were notable metal workers. But does give a bit of scope for variety, and the mythical nature of the Trojan War means I can pillage various bronze age ranges for options. Mostly from Newline and MM (as the above) as alas our dear hosts don't venture into the bronze age. Though a few Pendraken figures will make an appearance.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 July 2020, 11:41:12 PM
Nice work.
King Tut (almost contemporary, maybe) was buried with an iron dagger that matches meteor iron, always fascinated me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun's_meteoric_iron_dagger
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 17 July 2020, 08:17:34 AM
I like those, too !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 July 2020, 02:00:22 PM
Speaking of axes .... those axes aren't Bronze Age axes! The blade shapes are wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

.... and I don't care :)

I'd be delighted to see them on my table.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 July 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 16 July 2020, 11:41:12 PM
Nice work.
King Tut (almost contemporary, maybe) was buried with an iron dagger that matches meteor iron, always fascinated me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun's_meteoric_iron_dagger

Yeah, it's really strange to think as well that something like iron, so common to us, was for them a precious metal. You can see where ideas of magical weapons and amulets could come from when it's metal that literally fell from the sky as if sent by the gods. And yet a small discovery in how to extract it from ore and it becomes cheap and abundant and changes the face of warfare and life.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 17 July 2020, 02:00:22 PM
Speaking of axes .... those axes aren't Bronze Age axes! The blade shapes are wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

.... and I don't care :)

I'd be delighted to see them on my table.

Shhh, quiet you!  ;D

As I didn't particularly fancy filing away 19 axe heads I choose to believe that the Halzonians are beloved by Hephaestus (or whatever name he goes by in Alybe far away) who taught them the art of oversized axe heads and gave them the strength to wield them and it's not at all because they were the only bronze age two handed axemen that I could find in 10mm and I really wanted some heavy hitting troops for variety.

Ahem.

Got a bit more work done on the archers briefly at lunch there. Also ordered some more bronze age troops from Newline as need some variety for some mixed bases. Plus an order just arrived from Pendraken which I'd forgotten I'd added some 20th century bits to, so now have a few vehicles for next time the AVNICW project is on the painting desk, as well as some hexagonal bases I wanted to experiment with for "attached" generals.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 18 July 2020, 08:14:56 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 17 July 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Shhh, quiet you!  ;D
As I didn't particularly fancy filing away 19 axe heads

That would be a really thankless and 'gutty' task, even with my Dremmel......I wouldn't fancy that, either ! :o ;)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 18 July 2020, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 17 July 2020, 02:00:22 PM
Speaking of axes .... those axes aren't Bronze Age axes! The blade shapes are wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

.... and I don't care :)

I'd be delighted to see them on my table.

And I thought I were a rivet counter
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 July 2020, 02:11:39 PM
Bronze Age axes are broadly speaking one of three type - narrow, almost spike, blade, chisel blade or larger blade surface with cutouts at the rear of the blade.

I'm not aware of definitive evidence for the use of the labrys axe in combat but that is probably more evidence of my lack of knowledge than of non-use.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 July 2020, 03:24:09 PM
My reading suggests labrys axes were mostly ceremonial too. This makes sense as double headed axes always seemed wildly impractical for actual combat.

The added weight of an additional head, not to mention the way it would mess up the balance, edge alignment and impact would give it a distinct disadvantage over a single headed axe or even an axe with a back spike.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 18 July 2020, 05:35:16 PM
 If you want heavy hitters mmcv, how about a unit armed with these? :D

(https://i.imgur.com/fW7GnJ2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 July 2020, 07:10:04 AM
They'd have to be 20 ft tall  :o
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 July 2020, 07:51:02 AM
Oof, they would do some damage! Just set them up on front of a palace gate and push them over, siege ended.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 19 July 2020, 07:53:51 AM
No.....Come on....Wake up !

That's just a very small lady. :D

Cheers - Phil ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 July 2020, 08:31:54 AM
Phil even if she is only 4'11" they are still almost 10' high, you OIK !
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 19 July 2020, 12:17:25 PM
No, Ian......Get serious  ;)

She's barely 2.5mm tall.

Someone's got the scale completely wrong.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 July 2020, 04:06:21 PM
I'm never serious Phil, and 1/10th of an inch is a bit small even for you. You OIK (twice in one day, we will have to take Nobby's title and give it to you)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 July 2020, 10:46:08 PM
It's a perspective trick. It's all down to the camera angle. And mirrors.

In other news, finished up the archers. Pictures when base is dry and touched up.

Dice told me I needed to stop procrastinating and get in with the Crimean War, so 63 bases of Russians primed and dry brushed and a few started painting.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 20 July 2020, 07:23:13 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 19 July 2020, 04:06:21 PM
I'm never serious Phil, and 1/10th of an inch is a bit small even for you. You OIK (twice in one day, we will have to take Nobby's title and give it to you)

Actually, that's perfectly true......I've never made a 'human' type figure smaller than 6mm.......(Those were fiddly enough !)

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 July 2020, 11:03:36 AM
Told you before, I'm always right, and very very modest  :d
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 20 July 2020, 10:38:22 PM
Some quick snaps just, not great lighting but productive few days.

Most recently finished, the Russians march to war in the Crimea. 2mm from Irregular.

(https://i.imgur.com/MMjTpee.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ipoTO4y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bn0cm5B.jpg)

2mm really does look good for massed battles, and can paint up a load in one sitting. Just need to sort the French and then will be able to do pretty much all the BBB Crimean War games. I know how I want to base them so just need to do some counting and get an order in.

Next up some bowmen for the Trojan War: Figures are MM.

Pyraechmes led the Paeonians with their curved bows, from distant Amydon and the banks of the Axius, its waters the loveliest that flow on earth.


(https://i.imgur.com/pnYmmXb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7xZevyP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IpN9sPQ.jpg)

As before will "dress" the bases at the end for consistency.

And finally a couple of in progress hills:

(https://i.imgur.com/uAZ6YGR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvFVqhu.jpg)

Not sure if I'll flock these or just stick with paint.




P.S. just for Ian and Phil, some 2mm people beside 10mm axemen.

(https://i.imgur.com/zz2ZrCl.jpg)




Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 July 2020, 11:05:33 PM
Blimey they's lovely
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 21 July 2020, 02:32:32 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2020, 07:32:35 AM
Cracking job on those, Matthew !!  :-bd
Yes.....2mm do look awfully small....But like you say, impressive for mass battles !

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 July 2020, 12:29:13 AM
Yeah 2mm is quite nice for mass stuff. I've ordered up the French troops as well as some pike and shot units as planning a mini version of FK&P.

Finished up the hills:

(https://i.imgur.com/lLrML72.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uA9SoaK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ulTwetJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VtGCLNN.jpg)

And some 2mm terrain and building bits:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWnszQO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RBiduOf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tr5Mq02.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tLdIQX8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rsE4aNb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ICkRDQw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qTvpP1x.jpg)

You get the idea!

Have some river pieces primed too but will likely do some figures next as tired of terrain for now.

Also got an idea for a new project. Was listening to the excellent Fall of Civilisations podcast and their Songhai episode and is discussed the 16th century Battle of Three Kings and subsequent Battle of Tondibi where the Moroccans managed to destroy the Portuguese empire then march down the Sahara and put the nail in the coffin of the Songhai empire of West Africa. Quite interesting and might be a nice renaissance project. Had considered 6mm but actually there's all those nice Elizabethan figures for the Portuguese and Ottomans for the Moroccans and I'm sure Songhai can be scrubbed up from the Sudan and Islamic ranges so may be a 10mm... One for future, I've enough at the moment...plus the Greeks, Romans and Japanese are all crying out to be the next new project. After I get one of the ongoing finished!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2020, 07:03:26 AM
I especially like the hills !! :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 July 2020, 07:25:04 AM
Major problem with the buildings is painiting the windows
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 26 July 2020, 07:26:08 AM
Nice work on the terrain front and the Songhai project sounds fun.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 July 2020, 08:16:25 AM
Quote from: Techno on 26 July 2020, 07:03:26 AM
I especially like the hills !! :-bd

Cheers - Phil

Thanks, I spent a lot of time fiddling with the big one before I was happy with it. Still think it looks a little like a well concealed tank but is reasonably hilly with figures beside it. Kept it basic with the low one.

Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 July 2020, 07:25:04 AM
Major problem with the buildings is painiting the windows

Agreed. Not really an issue at 2mm thankfully.

Quote from: Steve J on 26 July 2020, 07:26:08 AM
Nice work on the terrain front and the Songhai project sounds fun.

Definitely one for "The List".
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2020, 08:21:45 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 26 July 2020, 08:16:25 AM
Still think it looks a little like a well concealed tank but is reasonably hilly with figures beside it. Kept it basic with the low one.

Now you mention it.  ;)

Seriously...No, it doesn't !.......I think they all look cracking !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 July 2020, 01:36:53 PM
Nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 July 2020, 07:00:05 PM
Busy week this week but did get these two bases of Qin infantry done:

(https://i.imgur.com/q6TBHXk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/szhpmzT.jpg)

Along with the July update: http://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2020/07/31/projects-update-july-2020/
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 July 2020, 07:51:08 PM
Very nice indeed
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 01 August 2020, 07:13:48 AM
They certainly are ! :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 August 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Thanks!

Some reinforcements arrived recently from Newline and IM. Of course I realised now that they've arrived, Newline are having a sale. So spent the evening going through what I have and what I need to round out a few projects so another order in...

Also pondering an order to MM to pad out some Trojan War units but then I'd also be tempted to sample their 3mm feudal Japanese so should maybe hold off...

Some more Chinese on the painting desk next.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 August 2020, 12:26:52 PM
Chinese still on the painting desk with only primer on, busy week, but did slap a base coat on some river pieces to use in a game this afternoon. Battle report will follow.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 August 2020, 01:14:47 PM
Slow going this month, but got these Qin cavalry finished up, fairly quick paint job on them.


(https://i.imgur.com/oL6j09M.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lqpF9Sw.jpg)

No matter how often I brush them off there always manages to be a stray bit of static grass somewhere on the models when I photo!

Back onto the 15mm models now to see if I can brighten them up a bit.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 August 2020, 03:11:43 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 13 August 2020, 06:40:46 AM
Hear, hear !   8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 August 2020, 10:55:26 PM
Thanks.

Back to these 15mm Japanese tanuki archers. Brightened them up with more brown on their fur and redone the clothing in brighter colours and patterns. Still not 100% happy with the faces, might try and make them a little more crisp, but getting there.

(https://i.imgur.com/64Q0LuP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F8nZOmm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UkFpKs9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cehRLC1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OXmyNZ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ainzpGo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/evY28NR.jpg)


Away for a few days so time for some reading and thinking to flesh out a few ongoing projects.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 14 August 2020, 07:14:39 AM
Coming along very nicely, Matthew !   :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 14 August 2020, 07:23:43 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 August 2020, 04:46:31 PM
Like the detail
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 August 2020, 10:49:02 PM
First model painting in over a week today. A unit of chariots and a unit of spearman for the Trojan War. I have two small orders in transit with the figures I need to finish them off. Then pictures.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 26 August 2020, 07:43:24 AM
We LIKE pictures.  :)

Cheers - Phil. (If I get time today I might have an investigate of Imgur. Your tutorial was much appreciated !)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 August 2020, 10:36:00 PM
Still awaiting the arrival the figures to finish off the Trojan War units I painted recently, so rolled the dice and traveled from the dusty coast of Anatolia to the tropical Mexican Highlands to paint a unit of elites.

Some quick snaps of tonight's work. The base is still drying so may touch up tomorrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/IyiqjZ9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/febRkQ4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uHGHFwb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/n8JQwxe.jpg)

These guys are the bodyguard of the Tlatoani (the king) and the mightiest warriors with the most captives under their belts.

Lighting isn't great but I'll take better pictures once I've the rest of the division done.

These guys were good fun to paint, lots of colour and pattern options.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 27 August 2020, 07:19:48 AM
Nice detail work !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 August 2020, 09:04:33 PM
Very nice work there.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 September 2020, 01:20:27 PM
Postie must have been on holiday, my lead packets I was expecting two weeks ago just turned up along with the rest of the post. With these I can finish off the Trojan War units I'd started. If I get time to paint anytime soon that is.

Did have a bit of a "forgot I'd ordered that" moment though for some of the figures which was nice.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 September 2020, 07:11:39 PM
Productive afternoon today.

Got the two Trojan War units finished off and based and a third prepped.

Another division of Aztecs done too, as well as a back rank base for the bodyguard unit when I want to beef it up.

Pictures when all dried.

Likely getting some work done to the house soon so started clearing the desk too in preparation. I'm going to have to pick just a few projects to have in hand and pack the rest away to the roof space. Decisions decisions.  :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2020, 05:43:14 PM
From the hollow lands and valleys of Lacedaemon:

(https://i.imgur.com/NKSrWWM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CBoP6aY.jpg)

And from the island of Salamis:

(https://i.imgur.com/qMZelLI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SVhAja6.jpg)

As with my other Trojan War ones, I'll finish basing at the end so please ignore the bits of bluetac on the spearmen base as they would not stand up straight no matter how much I filed the bases!

Onto the Valley of Mexico now.

A unit of Eagle and Jaguar Warriors to serve as a back rank on my Bodyguard unit when I need to make it "deep":

(https://i.imgur.com/Z60AcQH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q2qjPbk.jpg)

And with the bodyguard:

(https://i.imgur.com/GczzOlv.jpg)

And another division for the army:

(https://i.imgur.com/FTPBF7b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mIHzWic.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lD5gO8B.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/c8PSzEX.jpg)

Other than a few casualty markers, the generals and maybe one more skirmisher base this army is almost finished (for phase 1 of course) and I can move into their opponents, either Tlaxcalans or Tarascans.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2020, 06:08:27 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2020, 06:21:19 PM
They look damn fine, to me !

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 07 September 2020, 05:31:23 PM
Thanks!

https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2020/09/07/projects-update-august-2020/

Summary post of Augusts work.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 08 September 2020, 07:42:46 AM
Great stuff, Matthew ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 08 September 2020, 10:30:35 AM
Very impressive output Matt :).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 08 September 2020, 08:41:57 PM
You have been busy :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 September 2020, 11:26:40 PM
Thanks, I'm enjoying the downsized units. It's nice getting things done in one or two sittings and seeing an army come together quickly. I do enjoy the spectacle of larger units of course, but there's a time and place and the practicalities of smaller units have their benefits.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 September 2020, 11:31:04 PM
P.S. guess who got a promotion? Socially distanced drinks all around.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 09 September 2020, 06:50:21 AM
 =D>           =D>           =D>            <:-P           <:-P
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 09 September 2020, 07:31:27 AM
Congratulations, Matthew !  <:-P

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2020, 08:12:54 AM
Well done
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 September 2020, 09:36:51 AM
Me usual pint of creme de menthe mate
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 September 2020, 10:00:39 AM
Well done, youngster! Mine's a long one.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno on 09 September 2020, 10:38:14 AM
What ? :o

Is the snake back ?  :-SS :-SS

Cheers - Phil. ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 September 2020, 12:10:08 PM
Congratulations!

Pan-Galactic Gargleblaster, barman!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2020, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Techno on 09 September 2020, 10:38:14 AM
What ? :o

Is the snake back ?  :-SS :-SS

Cheers - Phil. ;)

Pint of snakebite for you my good man. Want a dash of blackcurrant in that?

I remember from my uni days snakebite was all the rage for a while. Horrid stuff.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 21 September 2020, 08:51:57 PM
No painting done in a while as hobby stuff all packed away with workmen in and trying to get the house on the market quickly.

Have an offer down on a house that actually has space for a dedicated hobby and gaming room. Where I could have big table games. And keep work and hobby space separate. Fingers crossed...  :-SS

I do however have a break in the madness due on Wednesday night and as the wife is taking herself off for some socially distanced sushi with her friends, I think the time is ripe for a small game.

The question is...what?

I could crack out my 2mm as stand ins for a go at the new Shadow of the Eagles Napoleonic rules I've been wanting to try out.

Or I could play the first game in my Crusades "Holy War" campaign with Soldiers of God that's been on the todo list a while.

Or maybe a game of Zombicide Black Plague (though I've only a handful painted).

Or use my generic army counters for something else.

Decisions decisions.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: hammurabi70 on 22 September 2020, 06:59:37 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 21 September 2020, 08:51:57 PM
No painting done in a while as hobby stuff all packed away with workmen in and trying to get the house on the market quickly.

Have an offer down on a house that actually has space for a dedicated hobby and gaming room. Where I could have big table games. And keep work and hobby space separate. Fingers crossed...  :-SS

I do however have a break in the madness due on Wednesday night and as the wife is taking herself off for some socially distanced sushi with her friends, I think the time is ripe for a small game.

The question is...what?

I could crack out my 2mm as stand ins for a go at the new Shadow of the Eagles Napoleonic rules I've been wanting to try out.

Or I could play the first game in my Crusades "Holy War" campaign with Soldiers of God that's been on the todo list a while.

Or maybe a game of Zombicide Black Plague (though I've only a handful painted).

Or use my generic army counters for something else.

Decisions decisions.



SotE or SoG with a full report here subsequently.

Pints? Surely a Yard ... or maybe upgrade to a gallon in these depressing times.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 October 2020, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 22 September 2020, 06:59:37 PM
SotE or SoG with a full report here subsequently.

Pints? Surely a Yard ... or maybe upgrade to a gallon in these depressing times.

I did in fact go with the SotE which I posted up a little while back.

September update, nothing new from the start of the month sadly: https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2020/09/28/projects-update-september-2020/

What this month is like will depend on how quickly we get the house sold and I can unpack all my hobby stuff from the roof space (and assess the damage from it's trip up and down the ladder).

There may be several gallons drank on that occasion!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 October 2020, 06:35:52 PM
Starting to get some of the painting stuff down from storage again. Some Chinese primed and ready for a lick of paint. As I've been redirecting my hobby energy into my rules for feudal Japan I've put together some cardboard counters to try out the rules on the table properly.

Unfortunately my printer refused to play ball. Not only had the power lead somehow walked away (likely to the dump during clear out) and needed replacing, the black ink refused to work, then eventually did start working a bit only for the red to die on me so my red Mori clan units came out yellow, as did my orange Oda. And decided to print my mon tokens printed the wrong way....

(https://i.imgur.com/EA8sAJI.jpg)

But with a bit of rebranding I was able to put together two armies, the now yellow Oda and the new blue Azai clan.

(https://i.imgur.com/NJNLKdU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Be03pxX.jpg)

All being well there'll be a battle tomorrow and report to follow.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 October 2020, 07:51:06 PM
Looks fun.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 29 October 2020, 10:03:16 AM
Got back to some proper painting last night for the first time in a while. Tackling what's left on the Qin Chinese forces (the black and red boyos in previous pics). Couple of bases of Qin crossbowmen pretty much done, with a good start on the remaining infantry bases too. After that, there are four bases of bow cavalry to do then the commands and a camp and that's them pretty much done.

Pictures in due course.

For the command, I've been experimenting with cutting hexagonal bases in half and using them for "attached" commanders. For rulesets like TtS! many commanders only exist as an attached entity, not an individual unit, and it always irked me a little having a circular base "attached" to a square one, so hopefully the half hex bases will fit in more nicely, but still work on their own if running other rules with them.

Detached commanders will still be on their own circular base.

The only ponderable is how to deal with chariot commanders. For the Qin it's not too bad as I've built their list in such a way that only the detached general is in a chariot so has his own circular base. But some of the other lists I've planned, such as the Chu opponents (the white and grey boyos), should rightly have attached chariot commanders. I may just have to do them as mounted on horses instead for "ease of attachment", otherwise the attached bases would be too big. Horse mounted commanders is fine for the later period stuff, just a little out of place in the earlier ones as I've built the lists with options to cover from the Warring States through to Early Imperial periods.

Chariots are the real pain when it comes to smaller basing methods, the infantry and cavalry all look okay, but the chariots are just so big!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 October 2020, 05:03:41 PM
Qin done  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 November 2020, 09:16:15 AM
After finishing off the Qin Chinese (see http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,20210.0.html and my blog) I figured I may as well power through and finish off their opponents, the Chu.

Good progress yesterday towards finishing off the last of the infantry, then need to do a few bases of cavalry and some chariots and command pieces. All being well I'll be able to get some games going for them soon. Will be nice having the option to play a game with a new set of miniatures.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 November 2020, 12:58:08 AM
Chu infantry done (other than a few bits to add to the bases).

Chu cavalry and command primed.

Chu chariots built.

Should come together quickly enough and be ready for some games soon.  8->
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 09 November 2020, 07:41:38 AM
Excellent !

Pics of the games in progress ?......Pretty please.

Cheers - Phil :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 November 2020, 08:44:17 AM
No games just yet, but hopefully after a few more painting sessions I'll be ready. I will of course fire up some pics of the figures as they're done and batreps in time.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 09 November 2020, 02:42:49 PM
Good man !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 November 2020, 02:05:24 PM
Photos. Chu Guard Infantry. Not varnished yet so stray static grass will be dealt with in time. Bonus points for spotting the fix job on the broken sword. I did consider sanding it down a bit but that'll just risk weakening it and to be honest, you don't really notice at arms length. I'm generally doing these as "quick paint, looks okay on the table" style rather than painstakingly picking out every detail.

(https://i.imgur.com/ShZWWlG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qUfEUuU.jpg)

And some tribal archers

(https://i.imgur.com/wUDZhMd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2DEMXib.jpg)

Chariots, cavalry and command all primed and lined up for painting next.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 10 November 2020, 02:47:54 PM
I wouldn't have noticed the broken sword.....but then, you mentioned it. ;)

Looking good !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 November 2020, 06:18:22 PM
Really cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 14 November 2020, 04:35:38 PM
The Chu forces near their completion. Painted and based, just awaiting everything drying to add grass and touch-ups. Perchance ready for a battle in the coming week or two. Waiting for PVA to dry though is a pain! I took the risk of attaching flags while basing rather than awaiting two rounds of drying. One minor casualty but easily remade.

Will be fun to game with two brand new forces on the table.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 November 2020, 09:27:48 PM
Chu forces complete.

Decided all the Chinese bases were a bit sparse looking so added a bit more grit and summer scatter to them all, including the Qin, to texture and brighten them up.

I'll photograph the Chu once I've time and inclination.

I may start a unit or few test figures of the Han to try out a colour scheme for them as they'll be the next addition to the Chinese, but other than that I'll probably go back to the Aztecs for a while and finish them up. Hopefully they've survived their sojourn in the roof space. It's a lot colder up there than they may be used to.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 November 2020, 01:34:07 PM
With the Chu and Qin forces completed, the next army on the Chinese roadmap is the Han. I found a new colour, Extra Opaque Heavy Red, that matches perfectly with what my vision of them should be. It doesn't show up quite a 100% match on the photos, but you get the idea, a nice deep red:

(https://i.imgur.com/XIzOwJ5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rX2WiGm.jpg)

This will be a unit of Han Crossbowmen at some point down the line, still needs a wash and a highlight. I just wanted to paint up a few test models to try out the new colour and make sure it was right for when I come back to them. I'll be putting the Chinese to the side for a bit and focusing on my Mesoamerican forces now.

First step, seeing how many of those fiddly back banners and swords survived the trip up the ladder to the roofspace and back... :-X
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 24 November 2020, 03:29:58 PM
Looking good, again, that man !  8)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 November 2020, 04:09:48 PM
Having a look through the Aztecs they seem to be in reasonable shape. One force is pretty much done other than some skirmishers and a few commands, and I decided I quite liked the 40x10mm basing for infantry commands that I used for the Qin. As I don't have enough bases of that size to do them all that meant an order to our hosts. And you can't just order a few bases. So there may have been an army pack ordered too. For a new project...  X_X :-$
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 November 2020, 05:15:04 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 25 November 2020, 06:13:37 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 November 2020, 09:55:27 PM
Progress on the Aztecs tonight.

Banners affixed for command units and all primed.

Remaining casualty tokens all painted up.

Unit of skirmishers painted and based.

Will need to start sorting out figures for their opponents. I'm leaning towards the Tarascans who are very much archery focused compared to the melee forces of the Aztecs. The other option are the Tlaxcalans, who are a mix of melee and ranged, but they'll be more time consuming as I'll want to have a go at sculpting some if their more unique back banners, which I've not attempted before. The Tarascans on the other hand should come together fairly quickly given the archer figures paint up pretty fast given they're mostly naked.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 November 2020, 04:30:41 PM
Skirmishers:

(https://i.imgur.com/nIIGt5P.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PLgKEZt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kD1XQW7.jpg)

Casulty tokens:

(https://i.imgur.com/cvTBLLO.jpg)

Also got one of the command stands mostly painted up, just highlights and basing to do.

Then three more command stands and that'll be this army finished (for now).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 November 2020, 06:10:53 PM
Nice
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Post by: Steve J on 27 November 2020, 06:33:33 PM
Very nice work once again 8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 28 November 2020, 07:21:06 AM
Good stuff !  :-bd

Cheers -Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 November 2020, 05:16:18 PM
Cheers guys. Got the commands all finished. Here's the blue command all based up. Red command is drying on its base and green command and the general are painted awaiting a basing order (though I may base the general on a 40x15 to stand out a bit more which I do have).

(https://i.imgur.com/4byFswh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ivLF9OY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uTllbma.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZDicK2t.jpg)

Will photograph the rest when ready.

Been really enjoying these, taking more time over them after batch painting all the Chinese previously. Such lovely models these. On to the next army!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 November 2020, 05:55:45 PM
Superb.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 06:36:51 AM
Very nice, indeed !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 November 2020, 09:14:53 AM
This is Red Leader...

(https://i.imgur.com/KFPW5iM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qNyICJR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qiz2hB0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zK9NS7P.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 30 November 2020, 11:13:13 AM
Very nice, again, Matthew. 8)

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 30 November 2020, 11:55:55 AM
Great work Matthew :).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 November 2020, 12:43:42 PM
Superb Matthew.
Will you do Red 2, 3, 4 etc?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 November 2020, 01:07:30 PM
Thanks  :)

Quote from: mad lemmey on 30 November 2020, 12:43:42 PM
Superb Matthew.
Will you do Red 2, 3, 4 etc?

Already done, see http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19799.msg302470.html#msg302470

Each division of the army consists of some warriors, elites, skirmishers, heroes and a command. Gone with a consistent colour theme for each. Will do some full army pics when I get the last two commands done. Need to have a rummage and see if I've any sneaky 40x10 bases lurking in the bottom of the box. If not just awaiting an order from Leon to come through with them.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 November 2020, 10:00:19 PM
November update and a few more pics:

https://mmcvhistoryhome.wordpress.com/2020/11/30/projects-update-november-2020/

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/img_20201130_1742019634985096522360262683.jpg?w=800)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/img_20201130_1741315131988745841807357291.jpg?w=800)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 November 2020, 10:08:30 PM
Nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 01 December 2020, 07:59:40 AM
Indeed they are !  :)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 December 2020, 10:49:37 AM
A little present arrived for me today, the bases to finish off my last Aztec command plus an army pack full of Greeks.  ;D

Lovely looking figures, looking forward to starting on them, though I should probably crack on with some opponents for the Aztecs first!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 December 2020, 11:12:14 AM
Let us all remember those who gave us these figures as we kneel in our little nightshirts beside our beds tonight, for we are greatly indebted to them.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 December 2020, 11:22:33 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 09 December 2020, 11:12:14 AM
Let us all remember those who gave us these figures as we kneel in our little nightshirts beside our beds tonight, for we are greatly indebted to them.

I'm not sure that a mental image of you in a "little nightshirt" is particularly beneficial to a good night's sleep...

The horror. The horror.  X_X

But yes, great work by Phil all around!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 09 December 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Be grateful I'm an atheist, or the image would be my nudist self in prayer!

Happy nightmares.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 09 December 2020, 12:41:33 PM
Don't you ever dare, Alexander :P

Cheers - Phil ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 December 2020, 01:38:15 PM
No longer so envious of their compatriots, the Green Team now have their leader:

(https://i.imgur.com/oClhAIW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/coolePN.jpg)

Their first adversary is going to be the Tarascans, so have most of their units sorted and mounted to painting sticks. Still a couple of units of tribal allies to sort out, and will likely want to add some back banners into their mix but hopefully can get them sorted soon and the lot of them primed.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 December 2020, 03:30:05 PM
Like those
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 10 December 2020, 04:22:28 PM
Me, too !!  :)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 January 2021, 08:28:23 PM
Not done much lately, but had a good run the last few days. Got the full Tarascan army prepped and primed and today got a number of the ranged units painted.

Unfortunately in a bit of additional reading in prep for painting the infantry I spotted a comment that they used hand held banners rather than back banners like the Aztecs, so the units I've affixed backbanners to are no good and I'm going to have to rethink the infantry a bit and make some modifications.

Awh well. The primed backbanner figures can be cycled into another army down the line.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 January 2021, 09:57:41 PM
Shield designs painted for all the Tarascan ranged units and got a few of them based. Couple of figures converted to holding standards rather than back mounted.

Pottering about with some tweaks to the infantry on how to best represent them. Tarascans pretty much all had bows, even the infantry, and their dress differed from the Aztecs, so considering having my first foray into messing about with green stuff to add some more distinct Tarascan elements to the elite troops and add a few more quivers into the mix.

Whether I'll be able to do anything useful with it I don't know. I once tried a little modelling with milliput and it didn't go to well, but I understand green stuff is a bit better for fine details.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 January 2021, 10:44:13 PM
Some Tarascan and Chichimec ranged troops:

(https://i.imgur.com/mdPOz5m.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xcb9RL0.jpg)

Been playing with green stuff trying to customise some of the infantry. Done a few new standards and attempted adding quivers and bows to a couple of figures. Very fiddly, pretty messy. Phil must have the patience of a saint. Will see how they look when painted before deciding if I want to do them all...  :o

Would like to try some more detailed tweaks for the generals but not sure I'll be up to it.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 10 January 2021, 07:05:52 AM
Those look cracking !!  =D>

Great job on those , Matthew.  :-bd

I USED to have the patience of a Saint.......Not any longer.  ;D ;D ;D......I now use a lot of potty mouthed language !! ;)

Those back banners were real pains in the bum to do.  ;D ;D.....And although bows look really simple, those are quite fiddly......especially if you have to have a feed in the base for moulding/casting purposes....You won't have to worry about that !  :)

If you're trying to do some delicate tweaks.......Just take your time....that's probably the secret when you first have a go at conversions.
If you need specific tips...Just PM me, and I'll see what I can do to help.

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 10 January 2021, 07:31:07 AM
Very nice work Matthew 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 January 2021, 10:20:18 AM
Marvellous work
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 January 2021, 11:03:35 AM
Thanks guys.

Phil, I may take you up on that when it comes to more detail bits. Some of my experiments have turned out okay looking, or at least should be when the paint hides the rough bits! I created one quiver on the end of a piece of wire with the aim of making a mould to potentially make a lot and stick them on rather than trying to mould onto the figures directly. Probably doesn't help that I've big hands that tend to squish the detail out already done bits when working on different bits. 😅
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 10 January 2021, 11:26:29 AM
 X_X

Don't worry, Matey. ;) I'm genuinely, more than happy to help.  :)

'Pushing putty' is a 'skill' (HAH !!!!) that takes a little time to learn......The more you do, the more you can achieve.
I would NEVER describe myself as having better than normal artistic abilities.... (I scraped an O level pass in art, a lifetime ago.)

There are probably little hints I could give you, that could help.

Big hands ?.....I suppose I've got thinner/longer fingers than most normal 'chaps'......But you CAN do this.....Genuinely.

Just let me know if I can help.

Cheers - Phil  :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 January 2021, 01:22:41 PM
Please ask, it takes the pressure off me having to learn...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 10 January 2021, 01:39:10 PM
Grasshopper..... :D......You have learned SO much, in a very short time.
Like I've said before.....It's such a shame you don't live an awful lot closer.
Actually watching a talentless git, like yours truly.....You could see how I can take shortcuts.

Again....like I've said.....I was SO lucky to watch folk like the Twins, Ali & Trish, Kev Adams, Nick Bibby, Jez Goodwin and all, push putty about.

Cheers - Phil.



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 January 2021, 01:40:37 PM
Any phyisical skill requires practice.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 January 2021, 10:11:01 PM
Some more messing with green stuff this evening. Added a few bows and quivers to some infantry and a few more experimental standard designs. Painted up a unit with a few modifications. Looks okay with the paint on so long as you don't look too closely! Got a couple of other units mostly painted up too. Productive weekend.

Another few painting sessions should see the rest of the units painted for this army, leaving just the generals and their bodyguards and standards which I hope to do some more green stuff with.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 11 January 2021, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 10 January 2021, 01:39:10 PM
Again....like I've said.....I was SO lucky to watch folk like the Twins, Ali & Trish, Kev Adams, Nick Bibby, Jez Goodwin and all, push putty about.

I've had the pleasure of watching the Twins sculpting and it is humbling, particularly as they look you in the eye while talking to you and keep sculpting :o
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 11 January 2021, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: paulr on 11 January 2021, 06:47:19 AM
I've had the pleasure of watching the Twins sculpting and it is humbling, particularly as they look you in the eye while talking to you and keep sculpting :o

I've said before, I found that 'skill' very disconcerting.....Bob Naismith used to do the same thing !!  ;D

Matthew.....I've PM'd you.....I hope some of the drivel I've written down is of some use !! ;)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 January 2021, 08:16:07 AM
Cheers Phil.

Couple of in progress shots:

(https://i.imgur.com/9Ouay0i.jpg)

At least one of the standards is too awkwardly big so may redo it. You can see the quivers and bows attached to a few figs as well as the attempts I've been making to quivers from a mould rather than sculpted directly on. The ones out of the mould are more delicate than the chunky monstrosities I've moulded right onto the figures but not sure how well they'll trim and stick.

(https://i.imgur.com/lV8lW6R.jpg)

One that's painted up and in progress with basing. The standard is a normal Aztec one that's been clipper and bent a bit. The two guys at the back you can see have moulded on quivers. Quite chunky compared to the delicate ones on the archers in front but at tabletop distance only looks a little larger
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 11 January 2021, 09:18:45 AM
Nice to see your work Matthem and they look OK to me. As a former modelmaker, practice makes perfect. New employees would often find it amazing at what I could do so quickly, but then I'd say I'd been doing it for 30+ years and it was second nature. Ask me to do something on a computer or mobile 'phone and I'd be struggling to say the least!!!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 January 2021, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 11 January 2021, 09:18:45 AM
Nice to see your work Matthem and they look OK to me. As a former modelmaker, practice makes perfect. New employees would often find it amazing at what I could do so quickly, but then I'd say I'd been doing it for 30+ years and it was second nature. Ask me to do something on a computer or mobile 'phone and I'd be struggling to say the least!!!

Haha computers I have no trouble with, indeed I can continue typing without looking at screen or keyboard, but dexterous work like this is new to me.

I do actually quite like the potential it has, but will take a while to get anything more advanced right. Small scale at least means impression is more important than accuracy, but does make it hard to work such small pieces. Lot of patience required!

Phil sent me a picture of some of the sculpting tools he uses so that'll give me an idea of what works well.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 11 January 2021, 08:26:42 PM
What you've done so far, Matthew looks pretty damn good.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil.  :)




Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 15 January 2021, 07:03:01 AM
 :-bd  =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 January 2021, 07:43:40 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 11 January 2021, 08:26:42 PM
What you've done so far, Matthew looks pretty damn good.  :-bd
Cheers - Phil.  :)

Hi, Matthew.

One of the things I might not have mentioned, is that Green Stuff cuts very cleanly with a new scalpel. (Unlike Milliput).....But it doesn't 'sand' well unless you use VERY fine glass/sandpaper.

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 January 2021, 08:04:10 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 15 January 2021, 07:43:40 AM
Hi, Matthew.

One of the things I might not have mentioned, is that Green Stuff cuts very cleanly with a new scalpel. (Unlike Milliput).....But it doesn't 'sand' well unless you use VERY fine glass/sandpaper.

Cheers - Phil :)

Good to know, cheers Phil. I've not got back to these yet, hopefully get a chance at the weekend. I need to trim down the quivers I made in the moulds and see if they're usable. Then I hope to make a few head dresses like the guy in fig 108.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/26/f6/0e26f6c210ce04cac7a6841f91d9f170.jpg)

And maybe longer tunics.

Not sure if the head dresses are better done separately and stuck on, or directly into the figures.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 January 2021, 08:30:18 PM
I'd do them straight onto the model(s), Matthew.....I think they'd be far too fiddly to make as separate pieces.
Cheers - Phil :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 January 2021, 05:32:51 PM
Trimming the green stuff worked okay. Able to do some more fiddling with them. Did a few funky hats, tunics, quivers and tweaks to standards. Painting when all dried.

Only modelling I have less is working out how to do the king, as seen here in figure 103

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f6/00/1d/f6001db54f851bc90df0e6fe333cdf37.jpg)

Need to find a good base model then make the green stuff tunic and hat. Those three feathers and headband will be tough.

Once that's done I've just six or seven sticks worth of figures to paint plus some casualty tokens and the Tarascans are done. Phase 1 anyway. Hoping to power though them in the next couple of weeks then I have two armies for the table and can think of painting something else next
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 17 January 2021, 08:01:47 AM
Hi, Matthew.

The best way to do those feathers, would be to drill a really wee hole into the figure's head and insert the finest bit of wire you can find into that.
For something like that, I tend to use a single strand of brass 'braid'.

I've still got a small length of brass 'rope'.....(The stuff that's used to hang a picture/photo on a wall)..and I just tease individual strands out of that, for something like this.
It IS bloody fiddly to do this sort of thing ! ;)

If you can find a suitable bit of wire...It's probably easier to do the feathers as a 'flat' on the wire and THEN insert the wire into Matey's head.

Hope that makes sense !

Cheers - Phil :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 17 January 2021, 08:16:02 AM
That's two cunning ways to do it ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 January 2021, 09:19:05 AM
Interesting, thanks for the advice Phil. I have some of those brass wires Leon sells for pikes, though may be a bit thick. I'll have a go and see. If it proves very fiddly I may just go with a single upright to give the effect. For the head dresses I mostly just went with a flattened cylinder of green stuff, then cut some slits for the paint to find gaps when it comes to it. I'm pretty realistic about not having the skill level for details so going for effect.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 January 2021, 09:28:00 AM
You could try on Amazon, I got some 10m of steel wire (for radio antenna) for £7.50...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 17 January 2021, 09:46:11 AM
Florists wire.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 January 2021, 09:56:45 AM
I don't think I can justify buying something for such a small thing, but I'll have a rummage. I may go through the bag of cables and see if any old ones would be suitable. Sometimes get those frayed wire types.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 January 2021, 10:16:46 AM
You might be able to do it by striping ordinary electrical flex = unpluged of course  ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 January 2021, 10:51:53 AM
Oh crap... unplugged you said... Owch! 😬

I have a bag somewhere of old cables. I sorted and tied them all a year or two back and chucked the old ones, but the fact I've not used any of them since means i can probably spare one of there are any suitable!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 January 2021, 11:00:28 AM
It is of course in a box at the bottom of a pile of other boxes. We've been in a house moving limbo for a while now. I'll have a look when we do the next box sorting.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 17 January 2021, 11:17:24 AM
I haven't used it, but the very fine copper wire you get in co-ax cables.....That shouldn't be too far off the mark !

NOT the single wire in the middle.......That's WAY, WAY too fat.  ;D ;D ;D

Florists' wire, Nobby ?.......No, no, no, no......

As Matthew has some idea of how to post piccies...(About a billion times better than me)...I'll try and send some photo's to him, in the next couple of days.......Then HE can upload them.  ;)

Cheers - A Lazy Git. ;)



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 17 January 2021, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 17 January 2021, 11:17:24 AM
Florists' wire, Nobby ?.......No, no, no, no......
There are various grades of florists wire. 5 gauge is very thin.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 January 2021, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 17 January 2021, 11:17:24 AM
I haven't used it, but the very fine copper wire you get in co-ax cables.....That shouldn't be too far off the mark !

NOT the single wire in the middle.......That's WAY, WAY too fat.  ;D ;D ;D

Florists' wire, Nobby ?.......No, no, no, no......

As Matthew has some idea of how to post piccies...(About a billion times better than me)...I'll try and send some photo's to him, in the next couple of days.......Then HE can upload them.  ;)

Cheers - A Lazy Git. ;)





Haha certainly can do
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 January 2021, 10:08:52 PM
Finished up a few bases I'd mostly done last weekend.

First up Otomi warriors:

(https://i.imgur.com/nJ1zNEc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ULGZQiG.jpg)

And some Tarascan Valiant Ones, a few modifications on these

(https://i.imgur.com/wwCErgO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uJu7w3A.jpg)

Also painted and washed the royal bodyguard unit, just needs highlights and basing.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 January 2021, 10:56:20 PM
V impressive!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 24 January 2021, 01:37:12 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

I can't tell which ones have had the modifications which is a good sign :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 24 January 2021, 08:17:56 AM
Cracking work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil.  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 24 January 2021, 08:25:00 AM
Superb work Matthew 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 24 January 2021, 08:47:21 AM
I really like those, nice and colourful!

The basing sets them off well too, and has a Central American feel to it (not that I have any real knowledge of what Central American terrain would look like, but these give me that vibe...)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 January 2021, 10:30:41 AM
Thanks!

Yeah Fred for the basing I used a mix of Google maps and photos (including some from my wife's trip to Mexico before I met her) for an idea. I imagine high traffic areas would have been more worn down (saw this at pictures of ruins) but out in the wilds there's a nice verdant feel.

It's also nice that I can do the basing pretty much all in one go as the flocks don't absorb as much paint and PVA as sand does so all adheres okay.

Paul, the back left and right figures have modified headgear, added quivers and on one of them a bow. The standard is a slight mutilation of one of the existing banners. The banners on the next few on the queue are more heavily modified or new creations.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Jonny on 24 January 2021, 11:01:40 AM
They look great! The basing is brilliant  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 January 2021, 06:24:11 PM
The Tarascan royal bodyguard:

(https://i.imgur.com/P5IjZVa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7OaZ29N.jpg)

Few modifications here!

Also got three bases of infantry painted and washed. Hopefully it's not another week again until I can get them highlighted and based!

After that only the generals, heroes and casualties to paint and the king to tackle the sculpting on.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 24 January 2021, 06:56:26 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Quote from: mmcv on 24 January 2021, 10:30:41 AM
Paul, the back left and right figures have modified headgear, added quivers and on one of them a bow. The standard is a slight mutilation of one of the existing banners. The banners on the next few on the queue are more heavily modified or new creations.

Mmcv, my point, probably badly expressed, was that the modifications are so well done that they look as well sculpted as the original models =D>
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 January 2021, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: paulr on 24 January 2021, 06:56:26 PM
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Mmcv, my point, probably badly expressed, was that the modifications are so well done that they look as well sculpted as the original models =D>

Haha no never worry I did indeed get your point, just thought I'd highlight which ones did get modified anyway!  ;D

To that, in the above image it's the two middle figures.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 January 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Those are nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 January 2021, 02:12:48 PM
Some casulty/disorder tokens:

(https://i.imgur.com/4eFjwrm.jpg)

And a few bases of Tarascan infantry

(https://i.imgur.com/wllnWtH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IfDoVS3.jpg)

Modifications include all three banners and a few added bows and quivers.

The end is in sight. Just the sculpting on the King to do then around 12 figures to paint and this army is good to go!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 27 January 2021, 06:04:35 PM
Very nice work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 January 2021, 06:34:55 PM
Fab Matthew!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 January 2021, 09:21:01 PM
Channeling my inner Phil tonight...

(https://i.imgur.com/ZMPZTkY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UYoBY6U.jpg)

Doesn't look much now but hopefully will come alive with some paint!

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 28 January 2021, 07:21:14 AM
I think that's going to work rather well, Matthew !

Look forward to seeing that painted ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 30 January 2021, 04:57:39 AM
Wot the knowledgeable one said :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 January 2021, 09:34:12 PM
Tarascans finished!

Here are the hero and command bases:

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2052057022054754795574116595.jpg?w=1024)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2052234068710410082768424192.jpg)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2053531231827219384232611860.jpg?w=1024)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2053596101110074299678118533.jpg)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2053305056620958272778655922.jpg?w=1024)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2053380877860649685124647065.jpg)

The King figure with the green stuff modifications:

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2052572357341291511935295800.jpg?w=1024)

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/img_20210131_2053150901709470945783243973.jpg)

Last up on this project are some baggage carriers I intend to use as victory tokens and a few straw huts for camps. Then onto something else.

And general update and pictures here:

https://mmcvhistoryhome.wordpress.com/2021/01/31/projects-update-december-2020-and-january-2021/
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 January 2021, 09:37:07 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 01 February 2021, 07:18:01 AM
Great stuff, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 01 February 2021, 08:15:40 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Adamwest on 01 February 2021, 08:50:55 PM
Really nice and colourful. A era that your making more and more appealing  :'(
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 February 2021, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Adamwest on 01 February 2021, 08:50:55 PM
Really nice and colourful. A era that your making more and more appealing  :'(

Ah go on, you know you want to!  ;D

They're really nice figures. I was just painting some of the last ones I my queue tonight. Normally after painting a lot of an army or two in quick succession I'm more than ready for something else, but I'll be a little sad to leave them and I'm sure some more will come into the queue in the future. It's fun to be able to go a bit mad with colours.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 01 February 2021, 09:43:30 PM
Those are all really nice Matthew 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 February 2021, 09:25:27 PM
Painted up a bunch of these guys then realised I didn't have enough bases for them:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZcQsj2P.jpg)

I'm using them as victory tokens to represent captives. I'd previously based some of them on 15mm rounds but I've no more of those.

I can either get more bases, rebase the ten or so I've done already on bases I have, or do these in twos and threes on bigger bases for a mix of different points.

Also got some time off work coming up tomorrow afternoon and Monday. I've a plan to get these Meosoamericans onto the table for a game on Monday but what to do with tomorrow afternoon. Paint something or play another test game of Twilight...

Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 05 February 2021, 06:48:03 AM
Looking good, Matthew !  8)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 February 2021, 07:27:29 AM
Great idea
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 February 2021, 06:48:23 PM
I've been working on a few fantasy figures as "palette cleansers" after getting four armies finished up recently.

One of the fantastic samurai ape figures:
(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/20210208_150741-collage8326587393825220809.jpg)

This cheeky chappie likes to blow his horn at all hours of the day or night:
(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/20210208_150649-collage914275925940254511.jpg)

A big axe solves many problems:
(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/img_20210208_1306295953986628532584222028.jpg)(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/img_20210208_1306347738779901026000741470.jpg)

A light in the dark, experiments in OSL:
(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/20210208_151401-collage7514859720756206950.jpg)

I've also posted a few battle reports recently (including a new Aztec and Tarascan one today) and taken some full army pics of the Aztec and Tarascan forces that have been posted elsewhere too.

Enjoy!

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 February 2021, 06:50:27 PM
Hugely cool!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 08 February 2021, 08:11:55 PM
Really nice Matthew 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 09 February 2021, 08:44:11 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 09 February 2021, 01:27:59 PM
Very nice indeed, Matthew ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: sunjester on 09 February 2021, 04:39:38 PM
Very nice indeed! ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 February 2021, 08:01:04 PM
This month's update:

https://mmcvhistoryhome.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/progress-update-february-2021/

Hectic month, but was nice to have some painting as a distraction. Most of my focus was on my entries for the competition. Was fun to challenge myself and paint a few things that had been lingering in my pile for a bit. Painted my first ever tank. Couple of ECW units that have reinspired my interest in the era (and convinced me to take on the rebasing of them to smaller single bases in future). And some other fun odds and ends. I definitely need to get a better camera before the next competition mind you! Current phone just isn't up to it.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 March 2021, 02:13:51 PM
Pendraken ordered much much sooner than expected, well done Leon and team! Exciting times ahead as it includes some expansions to an existing project plus the seeds of 2 new projects.  8->

Few other packages expected just from other hobby companies with other bits and bobs.

All coming together nicely.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 April 2021, 12:10:41 PM
March update: https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/03/28/progress-update-march-2021/

No painting due to house move but did start doing this...

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/img_20210322_155327246.jpg)

Ripping ECW units apart to start rebasing onto smaller single bases. Got a few reinforcements from Pendraken and Lancer to fill them out, just awaiting an order from Newline for some more variety. For the standard foot I'm thinking 3x3 blocks of musket and pike, for shot heavy 4x3 musket, 2x3 pike then pike heavy maybe 5x3 pike, 2x3 musket. Dragoons and Commanded shot maybe a slightly irregular arrangement of whatever looks good. Then command, flags, drums in front/behind. Whether I can fit all that properly on an 80x40 remains to be seen...

Should probably do a bit of painting this weekend and sort through the new forces, though quite tempted by another game. Next battle in the Holy War series? Or maybe get the Chinese or Aztecs out for a change of pace...  :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 April 2021, 12:46:11 PM
Certainly seen worse on my desk  :(
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 01 April 2021, 02:44:35 PM
Looking good on the rebasing front Matt 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 02 April 2021, 03:46:12 AM
 X_X I hate rebasing
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 02 April 2021, 07:30:43 AM
Looking damn good, Matthew. :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 April 2021, 08:46:55 AM
Quote from: paulr on 02 April 2021, 03:46:12 AM
X_X I hate rebasing

Yeah it's not fun. Thankfully these are just stuck to the MDF so pop off easily and not milliput that needs dug out like my early crusades forces. Was looking at my Sudanese archers on their weird yellow bases thinking if I should rebase them too or just get some of the new TB line ones and do fresh. I hate waste though so seems a shame to have figures I'd never use again. Digging out if milliput though is a massive pain. What was I thinking.

In other news my newline order is on its way so I should be able to start putting some of the new units together properly soon when I have the extra command variety.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 April 2021, 08:56:43 AM
Looking good so far.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 April 2021, 02:28:31 PM
I think I've settled on the basing for the foot. The number of figures per base varies which is slightly annoying but felt it more important to represent the ratio than have a fixed figure count given the variability of regiments at the time.

(https://i.imgur.com/cLpuNu3.jpg)
2:1 musket to pike

(https://i.imgur.com/oD4l0e9.jpg)
1:1 musket to pike

(https://i.imgur.com/LNazplE.jpg)
4:1 musket to pike

Cavalry I'm not sure on yet. Previously I'd done Royalists as flying v and Parliament as double ranked to tell apart, but thinking it might be better to just standardise them all to the same layout:

(https://i.imgur.com/32QLfTp.jpg)


Will probably touch up the painting on some of these boyos too as they were a bit rushed and not great. The foot in particular I was running out of steam when doing previously so they're a bit dull looking.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 03 April 2021, 12:37:24 AM
I like the different ratio foot

For the horse Parliament only really used the deeper formation for the first year or two and then both sides tended to charge in 'Swedish' style
I used fairly irregular formations for my horse, hard to keep the horses in formation etc

Some example here http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17480.msg261233.html#msg261233 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17480.msg261233.html#msg261233)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 April 2021, 12:54:24 AM
Yeah that's my thinking for the horse. I liked your basing for them which somewhat inspired my original flying v form. However I feel it looked a bit too well formed how I had it. I'd done the Parliament as two formed ranks but again looked a bit too steady. This was more to differenciate them in the swirl of combat than to show differences in style, since typically an army would be all Dutch or all Swedish..I think it was yourself you doubled up bases for Dutch?

Two loose ranks might suit better for all and use the command figures to differentiate R vs P. Given they had a lot of the same equipment etc.

If I ever do early war can double up, or just treat them as Dutch as they are as would be full army behaviour.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 April 2021, 03:21:03 PM
Newline order arrived. The figures are a bit taller and the pikes a bit longer than the Pendraken ones, but might still be within the realms of normality once mixed on a base. Let the experiments commence.

Also started painting some dismounted dragoons
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 April 2021, 05:28:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZvJU4Hx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GZfIgjv.jpg)

Comparison of ranges between Lancer, Newline and Pendraken.

The Command and Drummer at the front are Lancer. They're a lot squatter than the other two.

The painted pike and shot are Pendraken standard.

The bare metal pike and shot are Newline.

The Newline are a little taller and heavier set than the Pendraken but mostly fit okay, even if their hats are in the larger size. Clearly they were just scraping the barrel a bit for recruitment at this point so couldn't get all big hulking men for the pike. Still fits okay and pike length difference is easily explained by a bit if firewood necessity...

Oddly though one of the Newline shot poses seems much bigger than the rest. The guy in the second row, second from the right is a brute. Not sure I could use him mixed in so may have to reserve those ones for attached shot markers or all Newline bases.

Thankfully the lancer ones I only got a few command figures so will probably be fine on separate bases or possibly just mixed with Pendraken only where they only look short rather than than hobbit like.

I'll have to paint them all up properly and see as that'll be the true test if mixed basing will work.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 04 April 2021, 05:50:18 AM
Some shims under the figure bases may assist with getting the heights a bit closer :-\

Yes, I have double depth sabots for my Dutch horse
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 April 2021, 08:09:52 AM
Quote from: paulr on 04 April 2021, 05:50:18 AM
Some shims under the figure bases may assist with getting the heights a bit closer :-

Yes, I have double depth sabots for my Dutch horse

True, might be worth a go. What do people generally use as shims? Off cuts of card and plastic?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 04 April 2021, 10:05:47 AM
Personally I wouldn't notice the slight height differences once based and painted and on the table.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 April 2021, 11:35:00 AM
Remember some peps are taller....
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 April 2021, 11:42:50 AM
Yeah I've no issue with slight variations so long as it doesn't look too unusual so certainly the Newline and Pendraken are mostly grand. Just the Lancer are very squat looking in comparison so I'd probably wouldn't use their standard troops, though add a nice variety for command.

Might consider clipping the bases from the big musketeer pose, it's the only one that really stands out to me
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 04 April 2021, 09:30:56 PM
I use card for shims, easy to cut

Some height variation is fine but then so is some variation in the ground ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 April 2021, 09:03:41 PM
First unit of Parliamentarian horse rebased:

(https://i.imgur.com/jE1rjqK.jpg)

And a new unit of dismounted dragoons painted up:

(https://i.imgur.com/daXxkFT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rNjvDYq.jpg)


With their mounted base behind
(https://i.imgur.com/Pgzx3yS.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 April 2021, 09:14:55 PM
Looking great
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 07 April 2021, 07:33:29 AM
Lovely stuff, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 April 2021, 05:44:45 PM
Had eight New Model Army foot regiments sorted into neat piles with all their reinforcements painted up and ready for basing during the week.

Today, while setting up a game (battle report in time...) I managed to jostle the tray they were all neaty stacked on and now I have a large pile of mixed foot needing sorting again.  :'(
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 17 April 2021, 06:01:12 PM
     :'(    I feel your pain.
Just spent 1/2 a day sorting out my generals, wagons and dragoons into little piles to paint.  Chances of shuffling during prep are high.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 April 2021, 06:04:46 PM
Of course. When sorting to paint I usually stick them to lolly sticks so they don't get too out of order pre painting. This is actually the second time I've managed to knock these out of order. At least this time they've had their cuffs all colour coded so easier to resort... hopefully. May just hold off and sort and base all at once when I've time to do so.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 19 April 2021, 12:18:18 PM
 X_X  as predicted.  10 various wagons,  25 horses Real pain assembling the wheels and axles and now the horses are completely muddled up.   
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 April 2021, 12:45:50 PM
Quote from: DecemDave on 19 April 2021, 12:18:18 PM
X_X  as predicted.  10 various wagons,  25 horses Real pain assembling the wheels and axles and now the horses are completely muddled up.   


Nightmare! I had considered sorting them all into little baggies but the risk of damage on already painted ones is higher then. And it's more faff to fish them out of the wee bags as needed!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 20 April 2021, 11:51:13 AM
 my  12 month ECW project finally reaches the most critical element


(https://i.imgur.com/3qMO2iw.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 20 April 2021, 11:55:47 AM
Yes! Absolutely vital.

Sir Eweram Lambshanks, the Earl of Wool's Own Regiment of Hoof
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 20 April 2021, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 20 April 2021, 11:55:47 AM
Yes! Absolutely vital.

Sir Eweram Lambshanks, the Earl of Wool's Own Regiment of Hoof

;D ;D  Brilliant improv.   The only thing you missed is that they are on the side of Baaaliament.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 April 2021, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: DecemDave on 20 April 2021, 12:27:59 PM
;D ;D  Brilliant improv.   The only thing you missed is that they are on the side of Baaaliament.

I trust  you feeling sheepish after that un..... :d :d
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 20 April 2021, 02:10:53 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 20 April 2021, 05:01:04 PM
Baaa.....Humbug.

Cheers - Phil. :D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 April 2021, 02:21:26 PM
Got two of the foot units rebased now, but noticing a slight warping on the bases. Not sure if it's because of the number of figures on the base (33), the size of the base (80x40), the quality of the base material (not Pendraken), or the unevenness of the surface they dried on.

The bottoms are magnetised so have them stuck to a baking sheet to see if that helps, but I suspect it's too bendy too...need to find something a bit more flat, solid and magnetic.

It's not major, but first time I've had the issue.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 29 April 2021, 08:36:50 PM
Haven't had a whole lot of time for painting lately, but I managed to get the New Model Army foot all done. This is a mix of Pendraken figures I'd previously painted and some Newline ones mixed in for variety that I've painted this month. All rebased on 80x40mm.

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/img_20210429_2003307537e21212750532244806437..jpg?w=800)

https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/04/29/progress-update-april-2021/

Need to sort the horse and the Royalists still, but think I need to do something else for a while as a change of pace.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 April 2021, 10:18:37 PM
Cracking stuff there
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 30 April 2021, 07:00:07 AM
Very, very impressive!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 30 April 2021, 07:10:40 AM
Excellent work, Matthew ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 30 April 2021, 08:46:38 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 April 2021, 09:12:59 AM
Niiiiiicccccceeeee
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 30 April 2021, 12:41:02 PM
 :-bd >:<
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Poggle on 30 April 2021, 01:49:08 PM
Nicely done!  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 May 2021, 03:09:20 PM
Spent a bit of time recently sorting out some of my ongoing projects, organising figures into units and putting in a few orders to fill gaps.

Now to get on with painting them!

Before that though, here's some more rebased ECW units. Two Royalist foot and two Royalist horse as well as a Parliamentary horse in the middle

(https://i.imgur.com/5HdvNA7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BJBKWNj.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 04 May 2021, 03:21:19 PM
Great stuff!  :-bd   
I'm trying to work out if the Parliamentary Horse have just pulled off a great move or a really dumb one.   :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 May 2021, 03:25:06 PM
Dumb one of course
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 04 May 2021, 04:30:51 PM
Cracking !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 04 May 2021, 05:42:10 PM
Great work 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Poggle on 04 May 2021, 07:45:08 PM
Nicely done!  =D> Not sure about the Parliamentary tactical acumen though...   
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 May 2021, 11:00:48 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 May 2021, 12:51:38 AM
Thanks guys. Something a little different I got finished off this afternoon, two units for the Achaeans from my Trojan War project:

(https://i.imgur.com/6YaW5mH.jpg)

Basing isn't final, I'm just giving them all a light texture base cover then will apply full basing all at once. One of my long term aims with this is to make a proper battle board (or modular boards) to play on, so want it all to match.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 05 May 2021, 07:22:56 AM
Those are rather spiffy, as well, Matthew. :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 May 2021, 08:21:03 AM
Just makes me jealous  ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 May 2021, 09:06:59 PM
Very nice.
As soon as Leon gets some of these I would spend a lot of cash on them!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 May 2021, 10:27:26 PM
Thanks! Yeah would be great to see a Pendraken bronze age range, but Newline and MM have a decent selection which is what I'm using for the moment.

Got the rest of the Trojan War range fully organised. I'd reworked the army lists a bit recently so was concerned I'd not have enough, but I'm only a little short on two units and needing some command figures so not too bad. Lots of leftover figures to be elevated as heroes and mangled into casualty tokens in gruesome Homeric style.

Also got a base of classic Greek hoplites painted and a test base of Imperial Romans done. Pictures when dry.

Back to work tomorrow. It's been nice to have a couple of days where I can dedicate a few hours straight to proper hobby time rather than just half an hour here and there like I usual.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 May 2021, 01:25:27 PM
Took some snaps on my lunch break, a base of Greek Hoplites:

(https://i.imgur.com/nMkm5Ai.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/6987Af4.jpg)

And my first base of Imperial Roman legionaries, going with the classic red look:

(https://i.imgur.com/O6tu0Xj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G1tc1ZM.jpg)

I didn't use ink washes on either of these. They're mostly armour and shield so I'm not sure it would add much beyond doubling the painting effort. I may touch up the faces at some point down the line as have some more flesh tones on order, but I'm unlikely to notice the difference on the table. I may be tempted to wash the fur cloaks, they do have a couple of shades of brown in them already but the light has washed it out entirely so maybe not intense enough. Then again, I'm only noticing this as super zoomed in, at arms length it all looks reasonable.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 06 May 2021, 03:15:06 PM
 8)

Damn fine job, Mathew !

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 May 2021, 04:47:22 PM
Cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 May 2021, 07:11:59 PM
Thanks chaps.

Some Roman Aux join the field:

(https://i.imgur.com/ENpK4vm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B3Mftgw.jpg)

And the Royalists gain a unit of foot, Lord Kerry's/Duke of York's:

(https://i.imgur.com/y24X0N3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MAUOQhR.jpg)

I'm also not entirely happy with the Trojan War foot a few posts back. I can't decide whether I want each infantry base to have its own distinct look and theme, or just mix a whole load of different figures on each base to give a more consistently varied look. The previous ones look a bit too regular, and the huge shields would have likely been going out of fashion at that time so entire units of them might be a bit much. Then again having a couple of units like that would represent being from old fashioned remote areas then have the core regions more "modern" with smaller shields and spears giving each unit its own distinct look. Have them all rated as javelinmen for TtS so don't really need to differentiate them visually. Decisions...  :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 May 2021, 07:37:08 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 May 2021, 06:30:03 AM
How does he do it ?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 13 May 2021, 06:48:46 AM
Great work Matthew 8). For the foot, I like the idea of mixing up the figures, maybe with the odd unit here and there with a more uniform look to them, for say Veteran units or equally city guard with outdated equipment.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 13 May 2021, 07:05:25 AM
Very nice, once again, Matthew. :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 May 2021, 09:01:29 AM
Thanks guys :)

Quote from: Steve J on 13 May 2021, 06:48:46 AM
Great work Matthew 8). For the foot, I like the idea of mixing up the figures, maybe with the odd unit here and there with a more uniform look to them, for say Veteran units or equally city guard with outdated equipment.

Damnit Steve, you made me look at the list and now it's sprouted two more units and now it's not a nice number of points, so it's probably going to sprout a couple more...  ;D

At the moment most of the units are rated the same. So the bulk are "javelinmen" with a handful of units of archers, skirmishers and chariots. The only two foot units I need to visually represent differently to show veteran status are the Trojan Royal Guard and the Myrmidons. I have a fairly good idea of how I want to do these. There are a few units from "far away" that I'll probably make visually different (e.g. Ethiopians if I can settle on reasonable proxies) but for the rest, I'm thinking a mix of different, but with slightly different proportions of the figures so they don't all look so uniform and to represent regional differences. I'm also tempted to clip those long spears down, as in the period most spears were thrown, so the massive long ones look a bit out of place and make positioning difficult.

I seem to just love giving myself more work...  :-X
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 13 May 2021, 09:11:42 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 14 May 2021, 02:46:42 PM
Nice big parcel from Pendraken arrived today :) assuming I've counted right it should give me enough to finish out the remaining ECW units for the current phase.  Also includes some other nice odds and ends, including some farmyard animals.

Well-timed as we've just had the new neighbours move in:

(https://i.imgur.com/f9wAEvw.jpg)

Also pressed the button on an order elsewhere to round out some of the Trojan War stuff  :-SS

I need to get some painting done! As paulr would say:  :!!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 15 May 2021, 03:11:34 AM
 ;D :!! :!!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 May 2021, 08:35:52 AM
Paint faster!  ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2021, 08:51:54 AM
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 15 May 2021, 08:35:52 AM
Paint faster!  ;D

Stopo stealing my lines !!!!!! Anyway you couldn't paintb any faster, the heat generated woukld melt the figures.... :!!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Raider4 on 15 May 2021, 09:11:41 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 14 May 2021, 02:46:42 PM
. . . some other nice odds and ends, including some farmyard animals.

Well-timed as we've just had the new neighbours move in:

(https://i.imgur.com/f9wAEvw.jpg)

"This one is small, those are far away".
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 09:29:28 AM
 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 May 2021, 11:02:18 AM
That plastic netting won't keep moo cows off your lawn, Matthew. :o

Just hope that they don't chomp down all the vegetation behind them...otherwise they'll be on your lawn 'toot sweet'....If it looks nicer !

Cheers - Phil. :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 11:07:26 AM
Haha don't worry Phil, it's metal wire and there's barbed wire on the other side as well. Previous owners installed it and seemed to work okay. And sure if they did munch it then it would save me mowing it 😂
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2021, 12:25:17 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 11:07:26 AM
And sure if they did munch it then it would save me mowing it 😂

You would have other things to clean up though...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 12:31:47 PM
Haha yes a bit heftier than the dog's leavings I imagine
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 May 2021, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 11:07:26 AM
Haha don't worry Phil, it's metal wire and there's barbed wire on the other side as well. Previous owners installed it and seemed to work okay. And sure if they did munch it then it would save me mowing it 😂

Noooooooo, Matthew.......If sheep got onto your lawn.....they'd make a relatively neat job.
Moo cows are not in the same league.

Ten plus years ago, we 'borrowed' a dozen or so beef cattle to chomp down a couple of our fields......the grass was too long for our horses to graze.
The cows did a good job in shortening the grass....and flattening....and puddying up the field.
They then got bored......pushed through a metal gate and wandered off home.

The amount of water cattle drink is astonishing. I'd fill a big trough, at least a couple of times a day while they were here.
One of them...and Daisy really was her name....would always come over to see what I was doing...Not an evil bone in her body......and rest her head on my shoulder.

The owner of the 'herd' told me not to fall over....... "She wouldn't mean it, Phil....But if she simply stands on you.......You'll die..

Happy days !

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 01:36:13 PM
Yeah these ones are all very friendly but they're big beasties. Trying to train the dog to not go mental when he's out at the same time as them. He's fine when they're at a distance, but when they're right up at the fence he gets a bit too excited, then that draws more of them over to see what's happening!  ;D he's begging to go out again now after having had a good bark at them ten mins ago...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2021, 02:29:04 PM
Were on an exercise which involved digging in (to earth like concreate) when our overhead cover arrived - shiny corrigated iron sheets, followed by the local herd of cows !
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 02:37:44 PM
I'm sure that was a delight!

Took the dog out on a lead and some treats, can get him up to about two metres away from them keeping him calm before he starts barking. Hopefully doing that a few times will get him used to them.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 May 2021, 03:15:13 PM
NO, Matthew  X_X.....never, ever take a dog into a field with cows........More especially if there are any calves......You..and your canine will genuinely run the risk of becoming a nasty bloody smear in the mud.

Cows (usually)....weigh more than equines.....and are far more protective of their offspring than gee-gees.

Genuinely......I've been in fields with two/three day old foals...The mum's seemed to know I wasn't a threat....and basically ignored me.....while the foal played 'High ho, Silver ' with me.

I'll try and find the piccy of me with 'Cassidy'.

Mummy cows ?.....I really wouldn't trust.

Cheers - Phil.  :)








Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2021, 03:42:26 PM
Indeed Phil, cows will attack all canines, think they are wolves so I've heard
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 03:53:40 PM
No no not into the field, I mean into our back garden just. So still the fence between us. It's just to get him used to being near them without going ballistic. Doesn't appear to be any calves at this point, looks to be all female cows and they haven't shown any signs of aggression as such, just tend to crowd round for a look at the fence if a dog starts barking. There's dogs in most of the houses backing onto the field along here and their other fields border walks where there's always plenty of dogs going past so the cows seem fairly comfortable at having dogs nearby, just out dog isn't used to these big beasties looking over the fence into the back garden!

So just taking him out on the leash when they're out in that field so I can control him and keep him calm and get used to them being there rather than leaping around barking at these smelly intruders,. otherwise it'll be a noisy summer!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 15 May 2021, 04:30:03 PM
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 May 2021, 03:42:26 PM
Indeed Phil, cows will attack all canines, think they are wolves so I've heard

Indeed, chum...  I think that it's something like our (as the supposedly dominant lifeform on this planet... ;D ;D ;D.).....think of as 'the sixth sense'....

Matthew..... ;).......For all I know, from the photo, those could all be young bullocks, in which case they'll be nosey sods, rather than having any protective instinct.

Cheers - Phil. :)


Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 May 2021, 05:15:01 PM
Haha I appreciate your concern, all the ones I saw were definitively female! But no calves.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 May 2021, 07:04:21 PM
Sir Theophilus Gilbey's Foot joins the Royalist cause!

(https://i.imgur.com/kBkD4M2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uSEI41B.jpg)

Bit of a ragtag bunch.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 18 May 2021, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 18 May 2021, 07:04:21 PM
Sir Theophilus Gilbey's Foot joins the Royalist cause!
Bit of a ragtag bunch.

I think they look great.    A new line  in units in fact.    8-}

I tended to mix mine more with Minifigs than Pendraken but you have made it work.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 May 2021, 09:17:15 PM
Superb
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 May 2021, 10:58:59 PM
Thanks!

Quote from: DecemDave on 18 May 2021, 09:09:03 PM
I think they look great.    A new line  in units in fact.    8-}

I tended to mix mine more with Minifigs than Pendraken but you have made it work.

I've never used any minifigs, scale wise do they match well to Pendraken and Newline? I do have a few lancer ones but they're very squat, keeping them more for command.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 19 May 2021, 06:34:31 AM
Cracking work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 May 2021, 06:38:56 AM
Keep it coming kid
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 19 May 2021, 08:10:06 AM
Ragtag they maybe, but they look very good to me :).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 19 May 2021, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 18 May 2021, 10:58:59 PM
I've never used any minifigs, scale wise do they match well to Pendraken and Newline? I do have a few lancer ones but they're very squat, keeping them more for command.

Well the bulk of my ECW are Pendraken but I like variety so every range I could easily get has a few in there somewhere. I used Lancer command and also pikes in middle rows.  The minifigs are a good range, sculpts are detailed. Easy to paint although not as spectacularly so as Pendraken LoA.   I really enjoyed painting some LoA cavalry as Royalist pretty boys   noble horsemen - accurate or not .  Mixing ranges is going to be down to personal views in that its correct to real life but somehow can look odd in wargame units.   IMHO minifig Cavalry mixes very well and some infantry can be sneaked into Pendraken units.  In general, minifig infantry are as bulky as lancer but as tall/taller than newline so they draw the eye in a Pendraken unit.   I used a few minifig flag (cast flag) bearers in infantry Pendraken units to do just that.  I put most of the minifig infantry in separate units on thinner MDF bases.   The pikes are a more accurate length but cast in a soft metal so they bend and some might want to replace them. I didnt, I'd had enough replacing the pendraken "spears" to bother by that stage. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 May 2021, 10:08:17 AM
Thanks  :)

Quote from: DecemDave on 19 May 2021, 09:08:49 AM
Well the bulk of my ECW are Pendraken but I like variety so every range I could easily get has a few in there somewhere. I used Lancer command and also pikes in middle rows.  The minifigs are a good range, sculpts are detailed. Easy to paint although not as spectacularly so as Pendraken LoA.   I really enjoyed painting some LoA cavalry as Royalist pretty boys   noble horsemen - accurate or not .  Mixing ranges is going to be down to personal views in that its correct to real life but somehow can look odd in wargame units.   IMHO minifig Cavalry mixes very well and some infantry can be sneaked into Pendraken units.  In general, minifig infantry are as bulky as lancer but as tall/taller than newline so they draw the eye in a Pendraken unit.   I used a few minifig flag (cast flag) bearers in infantry Pendraken units to do just that.  I put most of the minifig infantry in separate units on thinner MDF bases.   The pikes are a more accurate length but cast in a soft metal so they bend and some might want to replace them. I didnt, I'd had enough replacing the pendraken "spears" to bother by that stage. 


Yeah, I couldn't be bothered with switching out pikes, my troops are just very fond of using their pike ends for firewood...  ;D

It is funny comparing the different painting styles I've used throughout. When I embarked on this project a few years back full of optimism and good intentions I was painting each NMA figure carefully right down to the belt buckles and ribbons on their socks. By the time I was onto the Royalists I was just slapping blobs of paint on to get it done. I think I've found a nicer middle ground now, given I don't see those smaller details when they're in a unit I don't bother, unless it's for a command base, but take a little more care over the general painting. Much as I'd love some of the beautifully painted, carefully detailed figures you see here, practicality prevails, and I have far too many areas of interest to devote excessive time to one in particular.

The mismatch works reasonably well here as this is late war Royalists so would be a fair mix of soldiers. And the size differences look grand all together on a base. If I was starting again I may use Minifigs for a bit more variety, but between Pendraken and Newline there's a decent mix of types, and mixing in a few Lancer and LoA command figures has given me some more variety there too. Of course, the only issue is that anytime I order some Newline bits I end up ordering a few packs from their bronze age ranges for good measure too! Oh well...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 20 May 2021, 02:12:44 PM
Some Greek psiloi:

(https://i.imgur.com/LPwgjvz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JsIZpNR.jpg)

Dreary old day so had a hard time getting light for pictures. The archers are in grey and brown tunics, not just a weird dark blob!

Celts on the painting block next.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 20 May 2021, 03:40:48 PM
Still look damn fine to me, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 May 2021, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 20 May 2021, 03:40:48 PM
Still look damn fine to me, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)

But you are 1/2 blind Phil - althoughn I agree
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 20 May 2021, 04:52:20 PM
Half blind ?

And the rest.  :'( :'( :'(

If most of you put my 'specs' on........You wouldn't be able to see anything but a truly horrid blur.

Cheers - Phil  :)


Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 May 2021, 11:05:09 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2021, 08:45:17 AM
Got these wild chappies finished the other day.

(https://i.imgur.com/GtEjwd3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EI3MvbV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lVdsSfn.jpg)

Been doing a bit of 1:1 building of my new BBQ which is going to get some serious use today. It's to be a tropical 17°C and the in-laws are coming around. Let the fire and smoke commence.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 May 2021, 10:01:01 AM
They're lovely.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 30 May 2021, 11:09:14 AM
Damn fine job, that man !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 May 2021, 12:23:27 PM
Look excellent
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 June 2021, 12:27:31 PM
General update on last month's progress: https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/06/02/progress-update-may-2021/

Turned out to be quite a productive month.

On a non-wargaming note, I've always loved cooking, and over the past year or so have been trying to make healthier choices to bring my weight down. I started blogging some of the recipes and cooking styles I've been using here: https://mmcv.food.blog/.

No fancy glamour shots of beautiful plates of food carefully arranged on crumpled table cloths with a scattering of flowers around them...just good food that I like to cook and eat. Will be adding more in future as I have the time/interest in doing so. Have a backlog of around 50 recipes in draft that I need to cook and write up, and will likely have 50 more by the time I get through them! So if you're interested feel free to have a look.  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 June 2021, 06:30:57 PM
What a great idea.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 04 June 2021, 10:21:24 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd to both ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 June 2021, 10:17:21 PM
Thanks!

Prince Deiphobus & the Trojan Royal Guard:

(https://i.imgur.com/WvYDCJ3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GDDhCKk.jpg)

No doubt some more sons of Priam's fruitful loins in there too.

Decided to go with Ilium's famed Scaean Gates as their emblem and give them a bit more of a uniform appearance as an elite unit.

As with my other Trojan War units, full basing will be done at the end for consistency.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 06 June 2021, 11:20:36 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 07 June 2021, 06:47:28 AM
Great work on those shield designs 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 07 June 2021, 06:49:54 AM
Terrific stuff, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 June 2021, 12:50:20 PM
Cool work on those!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 21 June 2021, 01:42:27 PM
Thanks  :)

Back to the ECW with some Royalists, the Shrewsbury Foot, mostly comprising the remains of Henry Tillier's and Robert Broughton's regiments of foot, along with a few others.

(https://i.imgur.com/t8XPaP5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ttlttik.jpg)

Ended up being somewhat camouflaged in their shades of green!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 21 June 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Lovely work 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 21 June 2021, 04:14:02 PM
Good stuff again, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil.  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 June 2021, 04:50:14 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 June 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Thanks!

Some Greek Hoplites:

(https://i.imgur.com/A3bFA0Q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XIgg0FK.jpg)

And Mycenean Chariots for Trojan War (final basing pending):

(https://i.imgur.com/OpzJc7G.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lfjuxAU.jpg)

Not so keen on these as it's a little hard to tell which way is the front. Tempted to turn one of the chariots around and give them a warrior in the car to make it a bit clearer. Will see how I feel about it in a few days. These were an experiment that I based and primed a while back then painted directly on the base to see how it would go since chariots are fiddly on painting sticks. Since then I've got a few figures attacking from a chariot that may add a bit more dynamism to the base.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 25 June 2021, 03:27:26 PM
Very nice, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 June 2021, 08:26:11 PM
Those look great
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 July 2021, 12:10:56 PM
Some Romans to round out the month:

(https://i.imgur.com/qhhOSKg.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/NbmrOOR.jpg)

Though of course now I see the picture I realise one or two of the shields needs to be touched up a little!

And the full update: https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/07/01/progress-update-june-2021/

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 01 July 2021, 06:02:10 PM
Lovely stuff, again.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 01 July 2021, 06:39:49 PM
Very nice Matt 8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 July 2021, 10:17:01 PM
Fab Matt
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 July 2021, 02:03:05 AM
Those legionaries are looking good!

I don't know, but I've been told, that our eagle's made of gold!
Made of gold?
So I'm told.
Sound off ..
Unus
Duo
Tres
Quattuor ........  :)



Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 July 2021, 10:46:53 PM
Cheers!

Haven't done much painting lately, been focused on refining my rules, but now I'm reasonably happy with the core of them, and my figures have arrivy, I'm ready to start putting together a few units. Probably aim to have three levels of army.

One for early period that can be used for Genpei War, Mongol Invasion and maybe Genko War.

One for big battle Sengoku Jidai and Imjin War with each unit often an entire clan.

One for smaller battle Sengoku Jidai, such as between two rival clans where each unit is a subdivision of the clan.

Did a bit of bases and blu tac tonight for a few potential units.

For the early period my aim is to go with fairly small units, maybe a 40-50mm frontage representing a mix of samurai and retainers for the most part.

Something like these:

(https://i.imgur.com/8lDAJSG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sqqYics.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WiXtuIj.jpg)

Not quite set on any of these yet but maybe something between the first two, a 40x30 or 40x40, then can go 40x20 for smaller units and 60x40 for larger ones.

Then for the larger clan formations of the Sengoku Jidai I was planning on doing 60x40 or 80x40 for a standard unit, but it becomes a little cramped:

(https://i.imgur.com/bA9xi4j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZTCyUx4.jpg)

I suspect 100x50 is my best bet for a balance of feasibility and showing the formations I want:

(https://i.imgur.com/5npl9o5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1pXBE9m.jpg)

(I couldn't get the banners to stay up in the last few)

Though will need to work out how I want to represent the smaller and larger unit options with that as a standard unit size. Probably 50x25 for small and 100x75 for large, 100x100 for huge.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 20 July 2021, 07:46:27 AM
Those should look rather spiffy, when they're done, Matthew.

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 July 2021, 02:34:35 PM
First unit done, a base of early feudal Japanese Samurai and their retainers:

(https://i.imgur.com/VIB0kOK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UV9FJt2.jpg)

The larger unit from the later period is based and in the process of drying.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 July 2021, 02:35:52 PM
Nice stuff
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 22 July 2021, 02:39:09 PM
Looking good !

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 July 2021, 10:04:15 PM
Thanks chaps. Following on from the previous unit, this is a later "sonae" style mixed arms unit from the Sengoku Jidai.

(https://i.imgur.com/kghehBQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FbR8onC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/v7lZIuP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LdqIBQE.jpg)

I just went with painted mon (the banner symbols) as I've never got on with transfers and my printer wont print anything that isn't black, white or yellow at the moment. I may replace them with printed ones down the line for a crisper look, but then most of my flags on other projects are painted too so fits with my amateurish aesthetic!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: pierre the shy on 23 July 2021, 01:50:32 AM
Those look very good MMcV  :-bd

Respect for your patience in sucessfully adding the back banners  ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 July 2021, 07:00:04 AM
See why you were having problems with back banners. Good stuff again.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 23 July 2021, 07:15:19 AM
Lovely work and I wouldn't fancy tackling the banners at all!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 23 July 2021, 07:50:21 AM
Really good stuff, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 23 July 2021, 08:00:39 AM
Good work on both the early and later period bases.

That really is a lot of banners on the later period one! I feel the need to add more banners to my bases now!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 July 2021, 08:42:45 AM
Thanks  :) they're very nice figures to paint, I'm still a bit rough and ready with them but hopefully will get better as I paint more.

Quote from: fred. on 23 July 2021, 08:00:39 AM
Good work on both the early and later period bases.

That really is a lot of banners on the later period one! I feel the need to add more banners to my bases now!

To be honest, the number and variety of back banners could vary pretty widely as it was largely up to the individual clan leaders how they wanted to fit out their troops. They became more common in the later parts of the Sengoku Jidai though as the increase in gunpowder use, larger army sizes and changes in tactical doctrine made being able to identify your troops more important. Even then though there was a lot of variances. In reality, since troops often acted as the baggage train themselves, you might have one in a group with the banner, one carrying the food, one carrying the camping equipment, etc rather than every single troop with one. Ashigaru would often have the mon painted on their breastplates too. Then there'd be plenty of flag bearers about as well. Does make for some interesting units though. For the next one I might go with a slightly different formation as just like the "uniform" and makeup of the units, the deployment formation of the clan could vary pretty widely too. I'll need to order some more banners and other bits and bobs for that though, so next few will likely be early period ones, which can be a lot more colourful!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 August 2021, 09:00:49 PM
Nothing much to update on, just the units already shown and some blether:

https://mmcvhistoryhome.wordpress.com/2021/08/02/progress-update-july-2021

Have a few more early feudal Japanese under the brush and an order in for the bits needed for a few more of the big units.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 August 2021, 02:00:19 PM
Some more Early Feudal Japanese:

(https://i.imgur.com/29aT8QX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DWA6oLm.jpg)

These boys have a mostly red theme to fit into a Minamoto army, but will likey see service elsewhere too!

I've some more in progress but think I've run out of bases. Have some in my next order along with some more figures to round things out.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 August 2021, 02:05:55 PM
Those are fab!  8)
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 August 2021, 02:19:12 PM
Nice stuff
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Post by: Steve J on 10 August 2021, 09:38:16 PM
Great work once again 8).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 11 August 2021, 07:10:26 AM
Lovely stuff, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil.  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: hammurabi70 on 11 August 2021, 07:18:13 PM
Great stuff and most impressive.  However, previous posts have suggested ALL such troops should be in black armour [bar the troops of Ii Naomasa].  Is it a bit of historic/artistic licence to use blue armour?  Asking for me!  I have yet to do my samurai.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 August 2021, 09:52:02 PM
Most armour was laquered black or brown. Red as you say was associated with the Ii clan though they were not the only ones to use it. I have seen Blue, Green and Gold armour in the pictures my aunt and uncle brought back from their four years in Japan. These were original* Sengoku Jidai suits of armour but were all owned by big name samurai, not rank and file.

Most troops would provide their own equipment so uniformity would be unusual.

One clan, darned if I remember which, issued their ashigaru with blue-black armour.

Personallly, if I live long enough to eventually paint my 3mm Samurai, I intend to use black, brown, red, blue, yellow and green armour. Because they are 3mm and it will make them easier to identify!

*Possibly "original" in the same sense as Washington's Axe and The Ship Of Theseus
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 August 2021, 12:14:33 AM
Thanks!

Quote from: hammurabi70 on 11 August 2021, 07:18:13 PM
Great stuff and most impressive.  However, previous posts have suggested ALL such troops should be in black armour [bar the troops of Ii Naomasa].  Is it a bit of historic/artistic licence to use blue armour?  Asking for me!  I have yet to do my samurai.

In the later periods most armour would have been black, particularly the munitions grade stuff worn by ashigaru and lower samurai, but lacquering and decorative additions were used amongst richer samurai. Coloured silk laces were used extensively to bring colour, as well as fabric panels. For my 16th Century Sengoku Jidai samurai I plan to do mostly darker armour, these guys however are for use for earlier periods (11th-15th century) where the armour tended to be more boxy (those huge shoulder pads you often see) and more decorative and colourful using a mix of leather, iron and fabrics, compared to the later mostly metal armour.

Early period:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7n8AAOSw101fV-ey/s-l400.jpg)

Note the coloured lacing all over the armour.

Later period (the more famous Sengoku Jidai):

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fNAAAOSwjSdgn6NY/s-l400.jpg)

Note the darker metal base and more subtle decoration.

If you want to add colour to your samurai there's no harm in it. The reason the likes of the Ii in their red and the Date in their black (as Ithoriel mentioned) are so notable is because they dressed uniformly in that colour, compared to the more varied colours seen elsewhere. Samurai would often have decorated their armour with fabric, worn coloured over coats and used coloured lacing.

Ashigaru generally would have been more uniformly dressed, particularly later in the 16th century, in munition armour and possibly coloured clothing. Though a lot of it is still guesswork based on artwork and the odd mention in period texts.

For instance, we know in the Genpei War the Minamoto were typically using red banners and the Taira white. But did they also bear clan symbols as in later periods? We don't know for sure. And did that influence their armour and clothes? Again unsure, but I'm using a red theme for my Minamoto and a white theme for my Taira, and greens, yellows and blues for provincial clans just to give them a general appearance for identification without it being necessarily uniform. So a little liberty but not unrealistic.

From a composition perspective, earlier periods tended to be more archery focused with horse archery being the primary samurai fighting style and much simpler looser formations. Naginata were common as melee weapons and ashigaru were only supporting players. Later periods were more focused on melee, the yari spear/pike being the primary melee weapon of both ashigaru and samurai, and the gun of course growing in prominence along with larger infantry formations of ashigaru commanded and supported by samurai.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 August 2021, 02:28:44 PM
Remembered I had some bases leftover from my ECW rebasing, so with a little scraping I have another base of early feudal provincial samurai:

(https://i.imgur.com/Ntb4mFn.jpg)
Oops little blurry on the front ones

(https://i.imgur.com/iAlmt1l.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 August 2021, 08:07:27 AM
Good mix and nicely done
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: hammurabi70 on 13 August 2021, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 12 August 2021, 12:14:33 AM

If you want to add colour to your samurai there's no harm in it. The reason the likes of the Ii in their red and the Date in their black (as Ithoriel mentioned) are so notable is because they dressed uniformly in that colour, compared to the more varied colours seen elsewhere. Samurai would often have decorated their armour with fabric, worn coloured over coats and used coloured lacing.


Many thanks for the reply post; very informative! 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 13 August 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Very nice work, Matthew ! 8)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 August 2021, 02:00:27 PM
Wot he said
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 13 August 2021, 02:57:02 PM
I'm liking these earlier period figures, much more colourful than the later Sengoku ones (but the later ones are easy to paint!)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 August 2021, 03:17:08 PM
Thanks!

Quote from: hammurabi70 on 13 August 2021, 12:25:34 PM
Many thanks for the reply post; very informative! 

No problem, I hope you have fun when you get to your samurai!

Quote from: fred. on 13 August 2021, 02:57:02 PM
I'm liking these earlier period figures, much more colourful than the later Sengoku ones (but the later ones are easy to paint!)

Yeah does give a bit more opportunity to be creative with the colours. Though I've mostly gone with this as a smaller base project due to this. I'm itching to do some more big base ones for the later period but awaiting an order as I'd only enough to do a sample base from my previous order. Lots of dark grey armour with a pop of colour on the fabrics and flags.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2021, 02:10:42 PM
August update, https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/09/06/progress-update-august-2021/

Nothing new to report here, haven't touched a brush (or been about the forum much) since that last picture at the start of the month for various reasons. Nothing too serious, but just directing my attention elsewhere for a bit. My order of additional Japanese has arrived but haven't sorted through it yet.

Hopefully, this month will see me pick up the brush again!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 September 2021, 11:48:57 PM
Still a slow month on the hobby front but two more units of early feudal Japanese done.

(https://i.imgur.com/M3UQUqg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RmhHL1x.jpg)

Got a new mobile phone this week, much better camera on it. Now I can't hide poor paint jobs behind blurry photography!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 23 September 2021, 07:09:39 AM
They look really good, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 23 September 2021, 09:26:04 AM
Looking good to me!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 September 2021, 08:43:35 PM
Superb.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 September 2021, 04:53:42 PM
Thanks! Some more early feudal Japanese. Dismounted samurai and retainers.

(https://i.imgur.com/CePWoIN.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HG6nSUq.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/clAk5bZ.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 27 September 2021, 07:03:37 AM
Very nice indeed ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 September 2021, 06:34:22 PM
Way cool!  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 27 September 2021, 09:08:44 PM
Excellent work old chap!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 September 2021, 06:54:52 AM
Good stuff
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Bob51451 on 28 September 2021, 02:39:43 PM
Hi, my name is Bob, and I was reading your forum and saw your mine's, very good , very good indeed. I too am painting a Japanese  10 mm army as well.  If you don't mind if I ask a few questions ? I am working on a Japanese army in the Sengoku Jidai Period. The rules that I may be using are the Impetus rules. Have you heard about them ? If you have, are they a good set of rules?
     You said, I think... you said that the Ashigaru armour was black...? Were their clothing colors bright, or dull colors ? Do you know any good sites on painting or showing different color schemes on the clans. Do you think that the rules I'm going to be using are a good set of rules to use a Japanese army with ?  I'm sorry for all the questions, I get that way at times...sorry... I can't wait to see your next pictures of your armies...
Stay well,

Bob51451
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 September 2021, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: Bob51451 on 28 September 2021, 02:39:43 PM
Hi, my name is Bob, and I was reading your forum and saw your mine's, very good , very good indeed. I too am painting a Japanese  10 mm army as well.  If you don't mind if I ask a few questions ? I am working on a Japanese army in the Sengoku Jidai Period. The rules that I may be using are the Impetus rules. Have you heard about them ? If you have, are they a good set of rules?
     You said, I think... you said that the Ashigaru armour was black...? Were their clothing colors bright, or dull colors ? Do you know any good sites on painting or showing different color schemes on the clans. Do you think that the rules I'm going to be using are a good set of rules to use a Japanese army with ?  I'm sorry for all the questions, I get that way at times...sorry... I can't wait to see your next pictures of your armies...
Stay well,

Bob51451


Welcome! I have heard of Impetus but haven't played them myself. I understand they use single diorama style basing which I'm a big fan of and works well for Sengoku armies. There's a version of them (Baroque?) that fits the Sengoku period a bit better I suspect given the use of guns.

I'm actually working on my own set of rules to use for the era as I found Japanese warfare to be a bit different from a lot of warfare in the period and find it didn't quite fit with what a lot of the rules out there did.

Ashigaru armour was usually black or a dark brown as far as I can tell, but their clothes could be brighter colours. The main issue with the period (as with many periods) is that no one was really recording detailed information of what was actually going on and what soldiers actually looked like. Armour is usually an easier one to quantify as it survives for longer, whereas clothing fades and degrades, so it's difficult to say who exactly wore what. There was also a huge variance across regions. While it's likely that richer lords, particularly later in the period, could have fitted out their armies in spiffy matching colours, poorer ones would just have their peasants stick their armour over the top of whatever clothes they turned up in, which may be a lot more duller browns and greys with a few bits of colour here and there. Even with the banners used, the information on what they meant is lost to us, and there doesn't seem to have been any consistency from region to region either so while one lord may be using different colour banners to indicate levels of command, another might have been using different colours to indicate different groupings of soldiers and using stripes or other patterns to indicate levels of command. There's a lot of guess work! A lot of the information we do have is from the later Edo period where things were a lot more peaceful and organised and the writers were given to somewhat fanciful depictions of the preceding era, such as delicately configured battle formations with complex subunits of weapon-specific detachments (a near impossibility for a large feudal army to perform) as well as notions of "bushido" and "undying loyalty" that were completely contrary to the actual period accounts. So Edo period depictions on "uniformity" must be taken with a pinch of salt.

A lot of modern video games and the like will often give a clan a certain colour to make it easy to tell them apart in game, but a lot of the time that's largely arbitrary and in reality armies would have had an array of colours. For the SJ I plan to do a bunch of fairly generic units in a variety of colours (though maybe following certain colour themes similar to what I've done with the Early Feudal to make them easier to tell apart for game purposes) then some specific ones for the well known clans. Bear in mind clans were often interconnected and split out in many branches, so it wouldn't be unusual to see the symbols of an eastern clan fighting in an army in the far west as they happen to have a branch there that is sworn to a particular lord. The actual colours used could vary even with clans bearing the same symbol, or variations of the same.

So really it's mostly a case of a bit of imagination and common sense. One thing to note is the sashimono (back banners) were more often coordinated than the armour and uniforms. These were often white with a black kamon (symbol) but would sometimes be coloured with a white kamon, and other times be a mix of colours and patterns depending on what that particular lord wanted to represent. Probably the best inspiration is looking at the painted battle screens from the era and the colourful displays they present. There's a lot of good info here too: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/japanese_history/arms-and-armor-f35/?sid=b39a4288ce406ed7b65dffde2a046d90

At the end of the day, if you do something that looks good on the table and isn't too outside the realms of reality, you're probably going to have a nice looking army that's reasonably close to what it would look like. And if it's not, then it'll still be good fun to play! Hope you share some pictures of your armies, always good to see!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 28 September 2021, 08:03:42 PM
Great write up mmcv

When I have been putting together my Sengoku armies, the key thing I learnt was that colour wasn't a key differentiator. It was the symbol, the Mon, that was. And within a force these could be in different colours or on different coloured backgrounds. This does rather break with my expectations of military colours, but of course it is from the other side of the world, so cultural will have different expectations and norms.

And as mmcv notes - too much is inferred back from the Edo period, or is just presented as the Edo period items where always the case (this is not unlike the Victorian English view of history!)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 05 October 2021, 07:03:37 PM
Some sengoku era ashigaru, Shimazu clan:

(https://i.imgur.com/5U20BIc.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/285duqc.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TU82SkB.jpeg)

Also been working on some new terrain pieces:

(https://i.imgur.com/fU5JOqn.jpeg)

The trees are coming on well but the attempts at hedgerows tend to fall off the stick every time I try. Wondering if I should try superglue rather than PVA for the base layer.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 October 2021, 07:32:00 PM
Very nice. Love the Mon choice too
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 05 October 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Another nice unit and the trees are coming along nicely.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Westmarcher on 05 October 2021, 10:27:30 PM
Might even get away with some UHU for the hedgerows. Nice figs., by the way.  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 06 October 2021, 07:49:50 AM
Very nice work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: John Cook on 06 October 2021, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 05 October 2021, 07:03:37 PM
The trees are coming on well but the attempts at hedgerows tend to fall off the stick every time I try. Wondering if I should try superglue rather than PVA for the base layer.

I wouldn't use superglue for that.  PVA ought to work - I've used it for hedgerows using plastic washing-up scourer pads glued to MDF.  You could try an impact adhesive like Evo-stick though UHU, as suggested already, should work too. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 October 2021, 09:07:39 AM
Thanks!

For the hedges I'd painted a lolly pop stick, ran a line of thick PVA down it then stuck on various clumps. Then sprayed down with watered down PVA. I'm wondering if I didn't let the base PVA dry enough before applying the watered down PVA, or used too much watered down so it ended up soaking in and diluting the base layer making it all come apart again.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 06 October 2021, 12:02:48 PM
I stick mine on with Evostick contact adhesive and then when dry, cover with diluted pva to stiffen them up. I imagine the diluted pva did cause the original pva to go soft again in your case.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 October 2021, 12:23:30 PM
UHU workd on my fish tank foliage, mouting them on MDF. Let it set for a while, and you may need to prop the foliage in place initally.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 October 2021, 01:24:08 PM
I suspect that's what it was. I'll have to have a rummage in the glue drawer and see if I have any uhu or the like. Alternatively, presoaking the clumps before sticking might also work. Saying that, when I checked them today they were sticking a little better, so maybe just giving them longer to dry out between applications will help too.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 October 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Poundland is your friend there  - normally
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 October 2021, 08:19:51 PM
Haven't gotten back to the hedges and trees yet but have made a few command bases and banners for the early feudal Japanese.

Provincial mounted commanders and banner:

(https://i.imgur.com/qSzJIhH.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3GTAVe7.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UH8ttat.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/e8hANQt.jpeg)

Minamoto General with his retinue and Battle Standard:

(https://i.imgur.com/A5Mu2jh.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JPnuMs0.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 12 October 2021, 10:11:46 PM
Looks like the Glasgow Celtic have a contingent.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 October 2021, 07:24:00 AM
Very cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 13 October 2021, 07:47:39 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 12 October 2021, 10:11:46 PM
Looks like the Glasgow Celtic have a contingent.

(But why have the red ones got an upside down cannabis leaf on the banners ?)

Very nice work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 October 2021, 08:24:04 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 12 October 2021, 10:11:46 PM
Looks like the Glasgow Celtic have a contingent.

Ha I hadn't made that connection but now that you mention it...

Quote from: Techno II on 13 October 2021, 07:47:39 AM
(But why have the red ones got an upside down cannabis leaf on the banners ?)

Very nice work, Matthew !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)

The Genpei War was actually an early drug war over which samurai clan's drug cartel could supply the court and the Emperor.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 14 October 2021, 10:40:30 AM
Oooooh  :o.....You're making that up. ;)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 14 October 2021, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 14 October 2021, 10:40:30 AM
Oooooh  :o.....You're making that up. ;)

Cheers - Phil. :)

Haha, maybe, though if you replace "drug" with "power and influence" it's not far off!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 October 2021, 10:58:04 AM
Tea was to Sengoku Japan was cocaine is to the Russian Mafia today.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 October 2021, 09:57:31 PM
Just realised it was the Taira who were red and the Minamoto who were white so all this time I thought I was painting the Minamoto it was actually the Taira. Not sure how I got those mixed up. Mostly no harm except the Mon on the red command is wrong. I was quite pleased with it too but now I'm going to have to repaint that banner.  X_X

Maybe I just go for all red banners and save the Mon for the maku screen.

Still need to source or work out how to make some maku screens too...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 October 2021, 11:43:04 AM
Progress report with some never before seen photos!

http://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2021/10/31/progress-update-september-october-2021/

For instance

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/img_20211026_1320413823808310955917450.jpg?w=1024)

and

(https://mmcvhistoryhome.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/img_20211029_1330407e24902861578509575779..jpg)

There's also a battle report over in that section too.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 October 2021, 11:53:14 AM
Good stuff
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 October 2021, 01:13:31 PM
Like that a lot!

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 31 October 2021, 03:25:45 PM
Lots of progress..

I like the green / grey provincial units.

With the trees and hedges, getting a good coat of dilute PVA on them really helps keep the clump foliage in place, and makes them nice and robust for use over time.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 31 October 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Yeah I have a spray bottle filled with water and PVA but I think the mix is a little off, takes forever to dry each time. Might up the PVA in the mix next time.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 October 2021, 07:25:20 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 01 November 2021, 07:50:36 AM
Very zippy, Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 01 November 2021, 06:00:58 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 November 2021, 03:14:17 PM
Thanks!

Got some samples for Warring States Chinese. I wish I'd had these before I'd done my last Chinese project as they were more what I was wanting before I ended up going late Warring States/Early Imperial. Not sure if I'll use these as a basis to a brand new project or expand my existing one... One for the future anyway.

Eastern Chinese
(https://i.imgur.com/Lq4uh6a.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jC9bFz4.jpeg)
Western Chinese
(https://i.imgur.com/gS5uP5d.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UWCkj9W.jpeg)
Cavalry
(https://i.imgur.com/VVVjwTr.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bMsbnWb.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KiNy73n.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/utmIQYP.jpeg)

Also got a nice package from Pendraken and have two more units of Sengoku Japan with sashimono affixed, primed and on the painting sticks. Hopefully get to those soon.

Much easier to add images with the new forum, particularly from the phone!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 13 November 2021, 04:22:48 PM
Liking the infantry - where are they from?

Yes, adding photos is much easier, though the boxes in the pop up dialog are strangely small (at least on iOS)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 13 November 2021, 05:24:48 PM
Very nice work. Matthew.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 November 2021, 05:27:47 PM
They're from Fogg of War. They've not got their website up yet but got their email off someone a little while back and when I contacted them they sent me some samples. They're hoping to launch their new site early next year. Seem to cover a few nice gaps in the scale.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 13 November 2021, 06:16:34 PM
:-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 13 November 2021, 06:29:25 PM
Those are very nice and good to see a gap in the market being filled.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 21 November 2021, 01:18:10 PM
Finished up a few more units.

First up two more generic Sengoku Jidai clans:

(https://i.imgur.com/kzObk40.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/roJKyOM.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yv0Nk2M.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0lXc4HG.jpeg)
And as a little change of pace, painted up these ancients that had been taking up space on my painting sticks for a while.

Roman auxiliaries
(https://i.imgur.com/jAp7uYo.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/wr0M0W7.jpeg)

And some Cretan archers
(https://i.imgur.com/9TqN8sz.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4OHOFnq.jpeg)
Though when I went to pack these away I realised I must have got my magnetic and ferrous sheets mixed up at some point as they wouldn't stick. I suspect I've put a magnetic sheet down on my Japanese box and as a result used the ferrous paper on all those bases. So going to have to replace the magnetic paper on these ancients and be careful in the future to tell them apart. Think I'll just keep the Japanese as they are, can't be bothered with redoing it all at this point. I should maybe try and source them in different colours on future as they're near impossible to tell apart without finding something metal and seeing if it sticks or not. And even then you're not sure had it just been slightly magnetised by your experimenting...  X_X

Now what to do next. More Japanese or a change of direction...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 November 2021, 01:40:44 PM
More japanese and change direction...... ;)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 21 November 2021, 02:05:54 PM

QuoteMore japanese and change direction...... ;)
You mean like my 15mm Japanese folklore project? Hmm.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 21 November 2021, 03:30:12 PM
Those look damn fine, Matthew ! :-bd

Cheers  Phil. :)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 November 2021, 07:25:15 PM
Looking great though
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 21 November 2021, 08:08:07 PM
Great work Matt 8) .
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 22 November 2021, 05:37:18 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: sunjester on 22 November 2021, 07:02:38 AM
The do look good!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 November 2021, 09:21:57 PM
Thanks, I'm taking a fairly quick paint approach with the Sengoku and not using washes etc as they're already quite dark so a few bright spots are good. I am washing with the earlier feudal as there's more colours there. 

On that point, some early feudal Japanese mounted samurai:

(https://i.imgur.com/0Z929E8.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/flUVR4M.jpeg)

In the process of prepping some more Sengoku units, hopefully we'll be seeing them in the future.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 November 2021, 10:06:11 PM
Those look great
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 23 November 2021, 07:09:54 AM
They certainly do !  :-bd
Great work, Matthew.

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 November 2021, 08:31:26 AM
Likewise
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: pierre the shy on 23 November 2021, 09:17:54 AM
Both your recent sets of pictures look really nice MMCV  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 23 November 2021, 09:57:23 AM
Great work Matt 8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 01 December 2021, 10:48:44 PM
Thanks for the kind words.

Four more ashigaru detachments done now:

(https://i.imgur.com/TkgsLLB.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0QOfw3W.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2VKL0Wb.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XytA5lK.jpeg)

https://mmcvhistoryhome.wordpress.com/2021/12/01/progress-update-november-2021/
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno II on 02 December 2021, 06:44:49 AM
Great stuff ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 02 December 2021, 07:52:35 AM
Looking good - I like the red spears. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 January 2022, 01:56:04 PM
Thanks both!

I had these chappies painted up last month but only got round to basing them recently. I ended up taking a month or so off hobby stuff for a variety of reasons but getting back to it now.

These are some more early feudal Japanese bases.

(https://i.imgur.com/IWnwmuu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZXFWi1Z.jpg)

Next up I'm heading back to the bronze age for a change of scenery.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 January 2022, 02:30:23 PM
To it's normal standard
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 19 January 2022, 07:14:41 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 January 2022, 06:30:01 PM
Thanks!

Some Achaeans for my Trojan War project:

(https://i.imgur.com/zajCZcc.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JncWn6N.jpeg)
Struggling to get motivated for 10mm painting at the moment so trying something different. Been reading a lot of RR Haywood's The Undead series (highly recommended) so in a real zombie mood. Decided to tackle my Zombicide Black Plague box again for another batch of zombies:

(https://i.imgur.com/4gUe6FI.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y0NriuY.jpeg)
And spent this afternoon going through the rest of the box prepping the minis:
(https://i.imgur.com/us4XmiV.jpeg)
I mixed a base coat primer for the zombies of Israeli sand, skeleton bone and a dash of necrotic flesh, then once dried, dry brushed a few white highlights followed by a dark tone wash all over. Makes them much easier to paint up when the time comes. Each batch will have a different colour scheme so when all mixed together for the game they look nice and varied.

The heroes are primed in black with the white dry brush in the middle.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 22 January 2022, 07:49:39 PM
Nice work Matt 8) .
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 January 2022, 07:44:31 AM
Good stuff
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 January 2022, 10:47:37 PM
Thanks. Another batch of zombies down:

(https://i.imgur.com/9s0bYFF.jpeg)

One from the last batch has gone AWOL though. Hopefully he turns up before the dog finds him and mistakes him for a chew...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 24 January 2022, 07:42:35 AM
That's a lot of Zombies  :o

Good plan painting them in batches, then mixing them up. Probably the best mix between variety and speed. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 January 2022, 09:52:17 PM
Another batch of zombies down. Three more batches to go then onto the major characters.

(https://i.imgur.com/7jZvOed.jpeg)
Also found the missing one, he'd hidden in the underside of the plastic tray. Sneaky zombie.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 January 2022, 10:06:06 PM
P.S. is the sizing on these images okay? Noticed on the new site some of the image ratios are a bit off on mobile browsers
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 25 January 2022, 07:40:20 AM
 I've noticed that the ratios can look odd on photos when viewed on my phone, but fine on my iPad. Rarely check on a computer, but I think they are fine there. 

When I add an image, I set the width to 800 pixels, but leave the height. This looks fine when I am posting. But after when I view the post on my phone some of the images can look distorted. 

If I don't add the 800 width setting, then the photos are huge. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 January 2022, 08:32:30 AM
Yeah, the ones I added the 800 to are the ones that came out skewed which makes me wonder is it no longer keeping the aspect ratio like before. As a test.

Added without any sizing:
(https://i.imgur.com/7jZvOed.jpeg)

Added with width 800:
(https://i.imgur.com/7jZvOed.jpeg)
This actually looks okay but might just be the shape of the image supports it better than some others.

Added with height 800:
(https://i.imgur.com/7jZvOed.jpeg)
Added with width 1200:
(https://i.imgur.com/7jZvOed.jpeg)

Aha....it looks like the new forum sets a default max size to 1000 even if you don't provide any dimensions. So we can maybe do away with the old 800 thing as it skews the ratios if they would go beyond 1000 in one dimension, and just leave it to it as the 1000 default will fit on most screens, though does require a bit more scrolling on a mobile.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 January 2022, 11:48:26 AM
Grim, but cool!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 February 2022, 07:35:08 PM
Another batch of zombies I finished recently.

(https://i.imgur.com/LMIHred.jpeg)

I was all geared up for doing some more painting tonight but really lacking the motivation. Added a few blobs to one of the character pieces from this set but just can't quite motivate myself to do more. 

Usually my issue is wanting to paint and not having the time, now when I have the time I don't really want to paint. Go figure!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 04 February 2022, 07:22:54 AM
Lovely work Matt. Motivation is a funny old thing and I only paint when I'm in the mood, as otherwise it seems like a chore and/or I rush things and then am not happy with the result.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 February 2022, 06:15:42 PM
Nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 07 February 2022, 10:16:17 PM
Thanks!

Had the day off today so decided to try and get as much of the Zombicide box finished as possible.

The last two batches of zombies are all done:

(https://i.imgur.com/TjmYMEd.jpeg)

Also the abomination, a kind of super zombie:

(https://i.imgur.com/I0FeG86.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wI8bal7.jpeg)

And got the remaining models, comprising the necromancer and the heroes, base coated and washed:

(https://i.imgur.com/6D7hrcl.jpeg)

Just need to finish up the details and highlights on these then varnish the lot. I was considering adding a bit more detail to the bases but the game boards tend to have a mix of mud, stone and dirt colours so the more neutral base may well blend in better. 

I really should get back to painting some 10mm but not quite sure what project I feel inspired by. I did get gifted a copy of Irregular Wars so should maybe test out a game of that in the near future. Might inspire some projects.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 08 February 2022, 01:57:55 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd

 =D>  =D>  =D>
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 February 2022, 07:19:57 AM
Those are looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 February 2022, 01:50:01 PM
Thanks. Got the last minis from the pack finished up. The necromancer:

(https://i.imgur.com/aTC1V3u.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZIg6aq8.jpeg)

And the zombie slaying heroes:

(https://i.imgur.com/deCX8Nt.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g3ZWZ4N.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bWmjOCu.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9C9izn3.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0dwR7Qc.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3SMLCDa.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LCr5jpn.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/keJ8n32.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/inosyZT.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o6h6RvR.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/95JN90g.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VHJh8Sk.jpeg)

I know there's a few mould lines I should have trimmed but I always forget to do that before getting stuck in, awh well.

That's the Zombicide box all painted, just need to varnish the lot now.

No idea what I want to paint next. I should probably do a desk clear up and organise things a bit to see what strikes me for inspiration!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 February 2022, 08:59:13 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 13 February 2022, 10:01:13 PM
QuoteNice!

Not quite the word I'd use for something with so much blood ;D

 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 March 2022, 08:57:37 AM
Thanks, I got the Zombiecide figures onto the table at the weekend there. I may "write up" the game at some point, particularly if I find myself playing through the various scenarios, but here's a few shots of the action for the moment:

The game setup:
(https://i.imgur.com/peogR1k.jpg)

Our intrepid heroes:
(https://i.imgur.com/Cf19fzY.jpg)

Splitting up was a bad idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/hyylB66.jpg)

Nelly shows a Necromancer who's boss:
(https://i.imgur.com/acs2YkX.jpg)

The horde descends:
(https://i.imgur.com/JdJrdVY.jpg)

Rescuing a fallen comrade:
(https://i.imgur.com/hpRd5qd.jpg)

Burn them with fire!
(https://i.imgur.com/fEzyyWH.jpg)

I also posted my usual monthly musings and updates (well 3 months this time):
https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2022/02/28/progress-update-dec-2021-jan-feb-2022/

Which included some pics from my competition entries, though the quality of entry this year was absolutely stunning so I've a whole lot more practice to do if I ever want to move up those rankings!

This was the only unit I had the time/motivation to paint up for it last month:

(https://i.imgur.com/QvaYzl3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ML3h7kt.jpg)

It's the huge Honjin or HQ unit for my Sengoku Jidai Shimazu Clan army.

Last night I finally started to get the urge to paint and hobby again after finding it a bit hit and miss for the past while. Spent some time sorting out various figures, cleaning and affixing and getting them primed. Hopefully, that's the motivation back on a more permanent basis and I can crack on with a few projects!

Also, the reply/post box is super glitchy today and missing the top bar so apologies if any of the images come out too big or messed up.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 March 2022, 10:07:29 AM
Good stuff there.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 15 March 2022, 03:50:59 PM
Look damn fine to me !!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2022, 08:58:55 PM
Love the game and the figures. Nicely done.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 15 March 2022, 10:36:23 PM
Looking good

Great to hear the urge to paint and hobby is back again
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 March 2022, 11:36:24 AM
Something a little different, I picked these up last year to try out Sharp Practice rules with and finally had a bit of an urge to tackle them.

I have been quite interested in the American War of Independence for a while and thought that doing some skirmish gaming in the period would stave off the desire for any bigger battle actions. 

First up the British oppressors, a detachment of light infantry and Queen's Rangers.

(https://i.imgur.com/c0OQUgH.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bZGi7yU.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dfTGzwe.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ldoz7Fj.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iEjDT3L.jpeg)

And those upstart rebellious colonials, a few units of the Continental Army, along with some troops from Rhode Island (including one of their "black company" units) and some rifle armed frontiersmen:

(https://i.imgur.com/15LMRti.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/n6hmLFA.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aEzMTud.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v5mKro4.jpeg)

I hope to get some games in with them soon and if I enjoy them maybe add a few British regulars and American militia units to my collection to give a few more options down the line.

Finally, since all I have for them to fight over presently are some trees, hedges and hills, I thought I should make a start on some more terrain pieces and try my hand at making a small house, still work in progress:

(https://i.imgur.com/mE6QLmx.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iJZ0BFm.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 28 March 2022, 03:55:10 PM
v.  Nice but having resisted AWI when Clib did the new figures, you have put it back on the "ooh - want one" wishlist. 

Never mind cost of living crises.  I have a cost of wargaming crisis. 

Painting by candlelight it is then.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 March 2022, 04:13:46 PM

Quotev.  Nice but having resisted AWI when Clib did the new figures, you have put it back on the "ooh - want one" wishlist. 

Never mind cost of living crises.  I have a cost of wargaming crisis. 

Painting by candlelight it is then.
;D


This skirmish style keeps things lower cost as you can get a few units out of each bag.  If I enjoy the rules in can use them to scratch a few itches to stave off bigger projects.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 March 2022, 05:59:03 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 28 March 2022, 07:26:05 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 28 March 2022, 09:35:37 PM
Nice work on the AWI figures - and good choice to go with skirmish sized games. It's my approach with the Peninsular Naps, though I've gone with Rebels and Patriots as rules, so we have both flipped rules from their normal theatres!

Will be interested in how you get on - too me there seem to be too many different bases in use - not sure if this will matter during a game, and is probably for more of a stand-out thing in a photo. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 March 2022, 10:14:52 PM

QuoteNice work on the AWI figures - and good choice to go with skirmish sized games. It's my approach with the Peninsular Naps, though I've gone with Rebels and Patriots as rules, so we have both flipped rules from their normal theatres!

Will be interested in how you get on - too me there seem to be too many different bases in use - not sure if this will matter during a game, and is probably for more of a stand-out thing in a photo.
I suspect I'll do the same with the Peninsula as well, and maybe some South American stuff, and Garibaldi in Italy.


I may try R&P but I own a copy of Lion Rampant and never felt that enthusiastic about it. I have skimmed through R&P and watched a few videos on it so know it has evolved the rules somewhat, so it may well be I like them better. 

The different bases represent the different roles of troops. I've built up a fairly large group under the rules to give a few options.

Those on the square bases are line infantry, they're magnetised and have a single base they're fixed to so move as a single entity but still allow figure removal. There are 8 to a unit.

The round bases are skirmishers, the different sizes/figure counts just allowing for figure removal, 3 bases to a unit in 3-2-1 formation. 

The hex bases then are for leaders of different qualities, the rules are all built around the role of the leader so there are differences between a level 1 leader and a level 3 leader. 

All in all should let me tell at a glance the unit type and whether it acts as line infantry, skirmishers or leaders.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 28 March 2022, 10:28:05 PM

QuoteI suspect I'll do the same with the Peninsula as well, and maybe some South American stuff, and Garibaldi in Italy.
Also Indian mutiny, Boshin War, various Irish rebellions and civil war, Great War (though I'll likely do some bigger actions for that too) and no doubt a few others that don't quite tickle the big battle urge but have some interesting skirmish actions. Might even look at ancient skirmish and put those 28mm Romans and Celts I bought before discovering the true scale to work...or just do it in 10mm anyway.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 29 March 2022, 10:53:14 PM
Have a few days off work at the moment. On top of all the real life stuff that I've been having to do during the days I've been able to take some hobby time too. After doing some clearing up yesterday of my hobby area, tonight I've been working on setting up a game to get those AWI troops on the table. While setting up the table I felt that it would be immeasurably improved by some wildlife and so painted up some moo moos:

(https://i.imgur.com/Rfx6FLW.jpeg)

I've also worked on some tokens needed for the game:

(https://i.imgur.com/6ErOJqD.jpeg)

And was able to prime the base of the house and put together the detachable roof:

(https://i.imgur.com/X7B6TbI.jpeg)
All being well I'll get to play the game tomorrow afternoon or evening and test out the rules! The house won't be ready but I've a nice enough table set up.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 29 March 2022, 11:38:53 PM
 :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 March 2022, 07:51:31 AM
Cool cows! 🐮
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 30 March 2022, 12:58:04 PM
Lovely.
IMHO our model battlefields are greatly improved by the presence of cows, sheep or squirrels etc.  (well maybe not next to a grand artillery battery).  Should there not be a rule writers standard to use them (and casualty markers) instead of inflicting on us yet another set or markers, cards or counters to represent unit orders or status?   
 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 March 2022, 03:01:21 PM
Been know to add a crocodile !
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 March 2022, 03:10:44 PM
All artillery should have a squirrel as a matter of course
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 March 2022, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 30 March 2022, 03:10:44 PMAll artillery should have a squirrel as a matter of course
Better than woodworm!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 07 April 2022, 08:20:08 PM
Some Greeks tonight, hoplites:

(https://i.imgur.com/HZrBFGq.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/q3hfABp.jpeg)
And peltasts:
(https://i.imgur.com/wXsTmuE.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/atLiL9j.jpeg)

Also finished off my house for the Americans to fight over:

(https://i.imgur.com/TlAsX5L.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DWYs0AM.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MSyjHQP.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o1Ynbd9.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 07 April 2022, 08:24:00 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 08 April 2022, 07:22:26 AM
Very nice, Matthew ! :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 April 2022, 10:11:29 AM
Impressive sir.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 08 April 2022, 05:06:31 PM
I'm liking those hoplites. I've managed to avoid ancients so far - but these are tempting. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 April 2022, 02:34:24 PM

QuoteI'm liking those hoplites. I've managed to avoid ancients so far - but these are tempting.
Do it! They paint up nicely.


Thanks all. Decided to dip into my ECW project again over the past few days.

Sir Thomas Howard's (small) Regiment of horse:
(https://i.imgur.com/iQlYNLs.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kfMAEzk.jpeg)
And Prince Rupert's regiment of horse:
(https://i.imgur.com/a7HWy7X.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/di31SWd.jpeg)
I have a few more units in various stages of doneness that should make an appearance soon!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 April 2022, 02:35:29 PM
You really see all the little bits of static grass when you have the pictures of them that you don't notice in person. Haven't varnished yet though so will give a good shake off before I do!

(New photos on previous page)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 11 April 2022, 08:57:33 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 April 2022, 11:45:41 PM
Brilliant
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 April 2022, 02:09:39 PM
Thanks! Another unit for the ECW, a mishmash of Royalists in a commanded shot unit under Colonel Ratcliffe Gerard.

(https://i.imgur.com/9bNPzXL.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Oi62Mgu.jpeg)
Some more cavalry on the painting sticks at present.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 April 2022, 02:33:34 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 12 April 2022, 07:58:38 PM
:-bd  =D>  :-bd

A touch of light blue paint on the edges of that light blue flag would get rid of the white edges ;)
I'm impressed with your hand painted flags
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 April 2022, 08:04:52 PM
Quote:-bd  =D>  :-bd

A touch of light blue paint on the edges of that light blue flag would get rid of the white edges ;)
I'm impressed with your hand painted flags
I think it's just the light reflecting off it oddly as I do paint the edges of them. The standard bearers are rebased from an older unit so suspect just the lighter bit of varnish reflecting as it's not really notable in real life. Gave them a quick dab of blue there anyway!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 12 April 2022, 08:14:01 PM
Good looking unit, with a nice variety of figures!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 April 2022, 08:35:58 PM
Very impressive work there.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 April 2022, 09:09:41 PM
Thanks, these are mostly just quick paint jobs. Started out this project painting everything down to the buckles on the shoes but as the scope of it and other projects increased pared it back to a basic tabletop speed paint. Think I've another 8-10 horse units to paint up to get to the next stage of this project and a fair few foot units too. The horse are not the most fun to paint. I quite like painting the foot though.

Have another unit of horse painted and dirtied up with a wash and a start made on another unit of foot. 

Once they're done onto something else, though as we're expecting the arrival of our first child any day now I suspect hobby time may take a back seat in the near future. Unless my recent Pendraken order that has just dispatched arrives first.  :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 12 April 2022, 09:39:36 PM
Good luck with the little one  :'(  ;D

First ones are normally late - so should get chance to start on that next Pendraken order!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 13 April 2022, 12:11:39 AM
Best of luck with the new arrivals, Baby & from Pendraken ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 April 2022, 12:26:21 PM
Thanks! Still waiting for the arrival (of both!) as well as some new paints, so will have to have a go at something else in the meantime.

Some more Royalists finished off though:

Sir Edward Hopton's foot:

(https://i.imgur.com/v1FbfiT.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dCn1b0G.jpeg)

And Sir Horatio Carey's horse:
(https://i.imgur.com/ftS4DXK.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h3yqQWe.jpeg)
He famously bore cornets with phrases like "come out you cuckolds" and "cuckolds we come" possibly as just a general insult or referring to the marital issues of particular parliamentary rivals. However, one wonders doth the gentleman protest too much...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 15 April 2022, 07:46:07 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: jimduncanuk on 15 April 2022, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 11 April 2022, 02:35:29 PMYou really see all the little bits of static grass when you have the pictures of them that you don't notice in person. Haven't varnished yet though so will give a good shake off before I do!

(New photos on previous page)
Note

I use a bit floppy make-up brush on figures I have just done the static grass on. It cleans off the figure but leaves grass on the bases alone.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 15 April 2022, 10:44:27 PM

QuoteNote

I use a bit floppy make-up brush on figures I have just done the static grass on. It cleans off the figure but leaves grass on the bases alone.
Thanks for the tip, don't think my wife would appreciate me using hers but will have to see if she's any old ones. I usually give them a bit of an upside down shake and a light blow before doing the varnish spray which dislodges most debris. 


Probably doesn't help that I try and do the basing all at once, rather than waiting for various stages to dry. Usually comes out okay in the end though.

I realised I only had one foot regiment left to do for this phase of the ECW project so cracked on with it today. Still to do a few artillery and command bases, oh and far far too many horse. But once they're done I'll be good to go for my "medium" Naseby game.

Think I'm going to find a way to speed paint my parliamentary horse. I've seven units of them to do along with the last couple royalists. I see a lot of buff coats in my future... 

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 April 2022, 12:20:15 PM

QuoteI usually give them a bit of an upside down shake and a light blow before doing the varnish spray which dislodges most debris.
Note to self, check glue is fully dry before doing this...


Not sure if it's the cold or just a bit too much water in the mix but it's been taking well over 24 hours for my bases to dry lately.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 April 2022, 03:57:07 PM
My packages all arrived:

(https://i.imgur.com/pncQBAM.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 16 April 2022, 05:07:58 PM
Are you going WWI?

Are the top MDF items from Pendraken? They look like trench breast works?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 April 2022, 06:47:50 PM

QuoteAre you going WWI?

Are the top MDF items from Pendraken? They look like trench breast works?
Well spotted old chap! Planning a "big battle" early war project with old contemptables and spike heads then a mid-late war skirmish and trench raiding game. Interest in the period has been peaked on and off over the past couple of years and been reading and listening to a lot recently on it so took the plunge.


Trench works are from here: http://www.supremelittleness.co.uk/sld-10mm/trenches10mm-25mm.htm
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 April 2022, 07:46:54 PM
Nice plan!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 16 April 2022, 07:58:19 PM
The WWI range is very good - the late war stuff is probably nicer / newer than the early stuff. 

Will be interested to see how the supreme littleness trench works come out. I decided to cut my own from foam, as I wanted a more gradual ramp up to them. To try and make them a bit more trench like rather than ramparts. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 April 2022, 08:03:07 PM

QuoteThe WWI range is very good - the late war stuff is probably nicer / newer than the early stuff.

Will be interested to see how the supreme littleness trench works come out. I decided to cut my own from foam, as I wanted a more gradual ramp up to them. To try and make them a bit more trench like rather than ramparts.
Yeah, I think they'll work quite well for the skirmish level stuff but not sure how well they'll work for big battle, will need to build some up and see. Slightly frustrating they are using a 25mm base size when most games favour 30mm bases, but fairly sure I can get away with 25 without issue.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 16 April 2022, 08:40:31 PM
Last Royalist foot regiment for the moment, the Lifeguard of Queen Henrietta Maria, led by Lt Col Rhys Thomas.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ui2s6fk.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g39LwFb.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 16 April 2022, 09:46:28 PM
Quote...
Will be interested to see how the supreme littleness trench works come out. I decided to cut my own from foam, as I wanted a more gradual ramp up to them. To try and make them a bit more trench like rather than ramparts.
QuoteYeah, I think they'll work quite well for the skirmish level stuff but not sure how well they'll work for big battle, will need to build some up and see. Slightly frustrating they are using a 25mm base size when most games favour 30mm bases, but fairly sure I can get away with 25 without issue.

Hi Fred & MMCV

They work very well for big battles, we use them for ITLSU
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4786/27023906878_83611a40b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hb1A1W)IMG_2591 (https://flic.kr/p/Hb1A1W)

You can blame ITLSU and me for the 25mm base size :-[
A few years ago I worked with the very helpful Michael, from Supreme Littleness Designs, to come up with the concept which he executed brilliantly.
He's added a few more components since then.

We decided to not add backs to the trenches to:

Although if you are really keen you could use two sets of trenches to do the front and back.

All my infantry is on 25mm bases but my dismounted cavalry is on 30mm bases and because the trenches are open at the back they can still line the 'ramparts'
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 April 2022, 10:33:33 PM
Cool Lifegaurds! 8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 16 April 2022, 10:38:07 PM
Lifeguard of Queen Henrietta Maria :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 April 2022, 12:09:23 AM

QuoteHi Fred & MMCV

They work very well for big battles, we use them for ITLSU
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4786/27023906878_83611a40b4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hb1A1W)IMG_2591 (https://flic.kr/p/Hb1A1W)

You can blame ITLSU and me for the 25mm base size :-[
A few years ago I worked with the very helpful Michael, from Supreme Littleness Designs, to come up with the concept which he executed brilliantly.
He's added a few more components since then.

We decided to not add backs to the trenches to:
  • reduce cost
  • make it easy to move units in the trenches
  • allow for a range of base depths & sizes
  • make it clear which way the trenches were facing

Although if you are really keen you could use two sets of trenches to do the front and back.

All my infantry is on 25mm bases but my dismounted cavalry is on 30mm bases and because the trenches are open at the back they can still line the 'ramparts'
Ah that's fantastic. In truth I had initially planned to use 25mm regardless (and 20 or 25 rounds for skirmish) but my only concern was if that would give enough space for labels.


I've not really bothered with labels in the past, as I'm mostly playing solo so I know what's what but with the scale that Great War games are at its probably useful.

Can I ask what size of label you're using? 10mm? They look reasonably readible even on the 25mm bases.

Are you doing two men to an infantry base? I'm between two and three, three looks a little better but might be squished with a label on and given I'll likely need hundreds of bases that extra figure can add up. Though I'm hoping they'll paint up quickly enough.

Need to work out my basing material strategy as need something I can repeat pretty consistently and my flocking mix won't look quite right in these. Think I need a more textured earth look with a few bits of grass.


QuoteCool Lifegaurds! 8)
QuoteLifeguard of Queen Henrietta Maria :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Thanks, she was an interesting character, nice to have made a good bit more progress on this project.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 17 April 2022, 01:25:47 AM
Quote...
I've not really bothered with labels in the past, as I'm mostly playing solo so I know what's what but with the scale that Great War games are at its probably useful.

Can I ask what size of label you're using? 10mm? They look reasonably readible even on the 25mm bases.

Are you doing two men to an infantry base? I'm between two and three, three looks a little better but might be squished with a label on and given I'll likely need hundreds of bases that extra figure can add up. Though I'm hoping they'll paint up quickly enough.

Need to work out my basing material strategy as need something I can repeat pretty consistently and my flocking mix won't look quite right in these. Think I need a more textured earth look with a few bits of grass.
...

We found labels really useful, they help keep track of units and identify special weapons etc.

We use 5mm deep labels with three coloured boxes to indicate the Brigade, Battalion and Company (the company is the tactical unit in ITLSU) and Rifles, MG, HQ, Bde HQ... to identify the type of stand

For Pierre the Shy's early war project we used khaki backgrounds for the British labels and green for the German. These blended with the terrain but clearly showed who was who.

For my desert forces I used a desert background for the labels and used blue text for British, red for Turks, grey for Germans and green for Arabs. If I were to do them again I would use more saturated colours for the text, I printed them a little too desaturated making them not easy to read at times

We used 2 figures per stand which gives an extended line look and the third figure per base really would add up ;)

We used flock for Pierre the Shy's early war project as the ground hadn't really been churned up much before Christmas

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/paulreynolds999/ITLSU%20France%201914/IMG_9548_zpsc8ba66bd.jpg)

More pictures, unfortunately with photobucket overlays, in this long painting thread https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10195.msg124706.html#msg124706 (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10195.msg124706.html#msg124706)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 April 2022, 08:52:20 AM
Those look great. I'm planning to try both ITLSU and Great War Spearhead and both have a company as the tactical unit so that should work well. The two men units look the part when all lined up right enough.

That's a good point on the ground being less churned but I think I'll want to use them for 1915 too, I'm thinking of working towards Neuve Chapelle. So want something a little more of a mud and grass mix.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Raider4 on 17 April 2022, 08:56:06 AM

QuoteLast Royalist foot regiment for the moment, the Lifeguard of Queen Henrietta Maria, led by Lt Col Rhys Thomas.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ui2s6fk.jpeg)
These are wonderful, love them.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 17 April 2022, 09:47:47 AM
Same here !
Cracking job, Matthew !  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: sunjester on 17 April 2022, 10:58:20 AM
Really great painting!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 17 April 2022, 01:35:25 PM
That latest ECW unit is good - you are turning these out at a good rate. 

Back to WWI 

Paul - I thought I recognised the trench works - and I agree with just modelling the front side. Otherwise to get based figures in you end up with some very wide trenches. It is a judgement between something that gives the models cover, or as one of my gaming mates has done you go with basically flat terrain pieces, that show a birds eye view of the trenches, which is in the correct ground scale, but isn't in the figure scale. 

ITLSU gives a great game, so well worth trying that. It's perhaps not the clearest written set of rules - but enough of us on here play it, so you should get assistance with any bits that aren't clear.  I've tried GWSH a couple of times but struggled with it - perhaps its too detailed, and not having played spearhead I didn't get the basic concepts of the rules that well. But the same figures work well for both games - though for GWSH you are likely to need far more artillery!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 17 April 2022, 02:31:55 PM
Thanks for the kind words all. Been working on the last two royalist horse while the primer dries on my WW1 test models.


QuoteITLSU gives a great game, so well worth trying that. It's perhaps not the clearest written set of rules - but enough of us on here play it, so you should get assistance with any bits that aren't clear.  I've tried GWSH a couple of times but struggled with it - perhaps its too detailed, and not having played spearhead I didn't get the basic concepts of the rules that well. But the same figures work well for both games - though for GWSH you are likely to need far more artillery!
Yeah I own both rule sets. For the skirmish level stuff I plan to use the Lardies' rules too, so ITLSU should fit in nicely. There's a few small scenario games available for GWSH that I plan to try out and see how I like them, but I agree to play most scenarios it requires a lot of bases and a lot of table space!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 17 April 2022, 09:37:43 PM
One approach I've seen with the bigger GWSH scenarios is to use the casualties from the first wave of the attack to make up the units for third wave...

We play a lot of Spearhead and Modern Spearhead but just couldn't get into GWSH. We much prefer ITLSU and also the more mobile parts of WWI. I'll be interested to hear how you find both. And as Fred has said happy to answer questions
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Sean Clark on 18 April 2022, 10:13:08 AM
Timecast make great trenches that follow the same format of the 2D ones mentioned above. Bases sit on top of the Trench rather than in them, but they are lovely pieces that look just like the aerial photos of tench systems from the war.

As for GWSH, obviously it's horses for courses. There's a big following for the rules and lots of supplements with at least 2 more on the way prior to a 2nd edition of the rules.

For me they recreate the elements of FWW combat that I enjoy. They are grand Tactical for a start so players are manouvering Corps on the table. The order system means that once an attack is launched its difficult to change path. The artillery was king during the FWW, and this is reflected in the rules. Scenarios such as the Thiepval 1st July one in the rulebook are tough for the British, but worthy of playing to try and do better than they did historically.

If you want a game at a more Tactical level where youre in charge of a brigade, or division at most, there are other rules more suited to the work.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 18 April 2022, 10:41:36 AM
A good summary of GWSH's strengths Sean :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 April 2022, 11:19:20 AM

QuoteFor me they recreate the elements of FWW combat that I enjoy. They are grand Tactical for a start so players are manouvering Corps on the table. The order system means that once an attack is launched its difficult to change path. The artillery was king during the FWW, and this is reflected in the rules. Scenarios such as the Thiepval 1st July one in the rulebook are tough for the British, but worthy of playing to try and do better than they did historically.

If you want a game at a more Tactical level where youre in charge of a brigade, or division at most, there are other rules more suited to the work.


Yeah that's the impression I get. I like the idea of the attack plans and timed orders. My only thinking is how well that works out solo but have some ideas on how to make it work, such as making a couple of plans and picking one at random, or getting someone with a passing interest to propose a general plan then I act it out.  I've still a lot of working out to do with both sets of rules, I usually like to watch a few videos on the games online but neither rule set is well resourced being a bit older (I found a few intro videos by the author for GWSH but not on gameplay and nothing on ITLSU). I plan to use Through the Mud and the Blood (or the Chain of Command varient of it) for skirmish in the period so I'm not sure if that'll work for or against another Lardies' set for the bigger battles. Time will tell. The first small intro scenario for GWSH has a couple of batallions on each side with supports attacking/defending a bridge crossing. That should be achievable pretty easily to put together and would probably work out for a small scenario for ITLSU too as a comparison.

On the timecast trenches, they do look good on an overhead view and fit nicely with 2-6mm troops but thought they might look a little off with 10mm compared to ones they can actually use, but might prove problematic for bigger battles.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 18 April 2022, 02:38:18 PM
If you are playing solo, then you can probably have the defender fairly pre-programmed.  With perhaps some triggers where you roll for reinforcements to be released. 

The Lardy games with their card decks also allow for triggers for this kind of thing. Either through the use of the blank card coming out a number of times. Or by adding defender activation cards to the deck at certain points. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 April 2022, 10:16:42 PM
Yeah solo play with dynamic systems is grand, was more the preplanned GWSH style but as you say defensive plans are generally fairly limited.

Last two Royalist horse cleared off the painting sticks, the King's Lifeguard and Prince Maurice's

(https://i.imgur.com/kHAwVVm.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8jlYPtE.jpeg)

Also had to redo a bit of the king's flag on the command base as the Scottish lion had mysteriously faded away  :-\


Got a bunch of test figures for the Great War British done, just playing with some basing and labelling options. Also need to work out what I want on the labels. Regiment names are great for the battle narrative and paying tribute to the real life soldiers who fought there, but means I'll have to change the labels for different battles. More generic ones are reusable but will need to come up with a reasonable spread of colour codes to differentiate them on the OOBs. 

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 19 April 2022, 05:18:15 AM
:-bd  =D>  :-bd

QuoteGot a bunch of test figures for the Great War British done, just playing with some basing and labelling options. Also need to work out what I want on the labels. Regiment names are great for the battle narrative and paying tribute to the real life soldiers who fought there, but means I'll have to change the labels for different battles. More generic ones are reusable but will need to come up with a reasonable spread of colour codes to differentiate them on the OOBs.

I use regiment names for ECW & AWI where we have a moderate number (10-20) of large bases per side in most games. This allows room for the names to be in a reasonable size font. Also if you do need to change them for a battle its not too many to do.

For WWI & WWII (ITLSU & SH) I use colour coding as the bases too small (25-32mm) for names. Also a single battalion can have 10-20 bases.

The colour coding I use is three small squares the first square is the brigade/regiment, second the battalion & third the company. We use the colours red, yellow, blue and green.

So the first brigade, third battalion, second company will have red, blue, yellow. We have a roster which then identifies the units. For most of our ITLSU games I create custom cards for the units with names and colour codes. This encourages player to use the unit names.

For example the Wellington Mounted Rifle Regiment was the second battalion in the second brigade of the Australian and New Zealand Mounted Division so its three squadrons would be: yellow, yellow, red; yellow, yellow, yellow; yellow, yellow, blue.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 April 2022, 08:00:36 AM
Nice cavalry!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 20 April 2022, 07:38:05 AM
Wot Will sed.  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 April 2022, 08:50:36 AM
Likewise
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 April 2022, 02:53:01 PM
Thanks!

Progress has been slower as back to work and busy with other things but have the small forces for my first test game painted up and in the process of basing. I realised I'm a pack of German artillery short what I need to do the first test scenario for GWSH. Nevermind, can proxy something in for test games.

I've been trying out a few different basing options. One thing I'm trying is double thickness bases using thick magnetic tape instead of my usual magnetic paper on the bases. It works for some but for others doesn't adhere as nicely, even with extra glue. Will have to keep experimenting. I like the idea of thicker for labelling and ease of movement given the smaller base sizes.

Anyway... Labels is one of the things I'm toying with.

(https://i.imgur.com/kp4aFmj.jpeg)
I've played a bit with the colour coded basing as suggested by Paul and I can see the benefits, but I find the colours a bit strong. I'm experimenting with a black back edge and using some sort of code there.

As far as I can tell the key information I need is Division/Brigade/Batallion and Green/Regular/Veteran.

Using numbers is fine but might get confusing when making generic, e.g. these bases are part of Division 1, which is the 7th Division in the OOB. Experimenting with dots and lines to give a similar effect. I think I prefer the black and white over the colours, just fits a little nicer with the aesthetic.

Anyone any other suggestions or approaches?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 24 April 2022, 03:06:13 PM
I would avoid putting Green or Veteran status on the bases - as the number of troops you need for this can vary considerably between scenarios.

You need something that can be picked out during a game, and you can pick out the important identification info from the surrounding troops. 

For WWII I have gone with a 2 tier system, a coloured bar, maybe 12-15mm long, with 1, 2 or 3 white stripes on it. And no white stripes for HQ or patrol markers for that unit. This doesn't allow an individual stand to be uniquely identified but does allow a platoon (or what ever a collection of 3 stands is representing) to be identified. 

I've not really made a decision on my WWI stuff. I started with small printed labels with 3 letters or numbers on. But they are quite hard to read. And am thinking of doing something along Paul's thinking with some colour. By going with 3 numbers / letters then I can identify down to the individual stand - but I'm not sure that is necessary. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 April 2022, 03:25:29 PM
Yeah initially I thought I needed to go to individual stand (company) but I don't think that's necessary. I see your point on the green/veteran status, I can just include that in the OOB. And the unit type I can tell from the configuration of figures so really it's just those three levels I need to identify.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 24 April 2022, 08:45:11 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd


I agree with Fred on leaving morale status off

I would avoid white as a label background as it stands out way too much. I've used dark green, dark blue, sand, and khaki for label backgrounds. I use different coloured backgrounds for different sides. Not a big issues for WWI or WWII but very useful for AWI or Napoleonics and players/observers unfamiliar with the period

I suggest you test your various schemes from 2-4 feet away on a busy table :-B

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: pierre the shy on 24 April 2022, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: paulr on 24 April 2022, 08:45:11 PM:-bd  =D>  :-bd

I agree with Fred on leaving morale status off

I would avoid white as a label background as it stands out way too much. I've used dark green, dark blue, sand, and khaki for label backgrounds. I use different coloured backgrounds for different sides. Not a big issues for WWI or WWII but very useful for AWI or Napoleonics and players/observers unfamiliar with the period

I suggest you test your various schemes from 2-4 feet away on a busy table :-B

Nicely done troops MMcV :-bd

I'd agree with Paul's comments above about the labelling.

Here's some pictures I took of my 1914 German Infantry that he painted for me a few years ago now: https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.60.html (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.60.html)

I used Dark Green for the Germans and Khaki for the BEF boys main label colours.



 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 April 2022, 09:22:51 PM
Cool
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 24 April 2022, 11:23:18 PM
Fantastic stuff on the ITLSU 1914 stuff. I've flicked through them in the past but went through them and the older threads again there. Love the flags but I'm mostly aiming for an early 1915 look so my brigade HQ is just on his lonesome. I was considering adding a field telephone though, anyone any pictures of them from the range?

For the Germans I've done the felt covers on their helmets field grey, both for convenience and because I've seen a few pictures with grey covers rather than the more beige-green style seen at the outbreak, though if anyone has information on that I'd appreciate it. Still getting to grips with some of the nuances, though given the large numbers I'll likely end up producing will need to find a balance between accuracy and expediency at tabletop standard. Tempted to try airbrush to lay down a speedy mass uniform base coat for the next batch.

Also, out of interest does anyone know what the kneeling gunner on the German 77s is holding? Is it a spent shell cartridge?

On the labels, I agree the white background is too stark. Think I'll definitely go darker. Not sure on a nice configuration yet, though Fred's idea of combining the colour and stripes is interesting. Could use a more limited, muted palette then. More experiments needed.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 25 April 2022, 01:47:55 AM
Quote...

Also, out of interest does anyone know what the kneeling gunner on the German 77s is holding? Is it a spent shell cartridge?

On the labels, I agree the white background is too stark. Think I'll definitely go darker. Not sure on a nice configuration yet, though Fred's idea of combining the colour and stripes is interesting. Could use a more limited, muted palette then. More experiments needed.

I painted Pierre the Shy's holding shells. I think light blue is Shrapnel, but would need to check
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/paulreynolds999/ITLSU%20France%201914/IMG_9553_zpsf4ccde3e.jpg)

A muted palette could work for coloured squares but I used muted colours for text on my Palestine forces and it can make them hard to read in some lights
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 25 April 2022, 07:44:38 AM
Field Telephone operator - can't find a photo of mine. But it is a standing, bare headed chap in puttees, with a field telephone 'box' in a kind of chest mount - a bit like a British gas mask bag. He is bent forward slightly talking into it. 

He is deliberately generic and can be painted to match different armies

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: collegialhoagie on 25 April 2022, 08:13:50 AM
Nice work! I've yet to figure out if and how I would label my GNW units, good luck with that! it's a hard compromise between strong or subtle lettering :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 April 2022, 08:55:47 AM

QuoteI painted Pierre the Shy's holding shells. I think light blue is Shrapnel, but would need to check
Yeah the guy in the middle is holding a shell, but the guy crouching behind him by the gun, on my figures it looks like he's holding something between his arm and chest/shoulder. I'll take a picture when next at the hobby desk, though I've painted it metallic so may be even harder to make out. It almost looks like he's lifting a strap or line of pouches. Or something from the gun.
QuoteField Telephone operator - can't find a photo of mine. But it is a standing, bare headed chap in puttees, with a field telephone 'box' in a kind of chest mount - a bit like a British gas mask bag. He is bent forward slightly talking into it.

He is deliberately generic and can be painted to match different armies
Thanks, that might work well to add a little more character to the Brigade/Regimental HQ. Will need to think how to model the Division/Corps HQ elements as well, though I see there's some senior officers in the ranges that might work.

QuoteNice work! I've yet to figure out if and how I would label my GNW units, good luck with that! it's a hard compromise between strong or subtle lettering :-\
Paul and Pierre did some nice labelling with their ECW forces https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17480.1335.html. I haven't yet for my ECW, though once I do a few more rounds of work on them to flesh out the forces for a bigger game I may find them useful, though I'm hoping I can use the different flags as enough of an identifier. Depends a lot on the game rules too, how much visual information you need on the table, i.e. do you just need to identify different units or do they have stat lines worth being able to tell at a glance too. I'm not familiar with what you need for GaPa, which I think is what you said you were using?


Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: collegialhoagie on 25 April 2022, 10:19:59 AM
QuotePaul and Pierre did some nice labelling with their ECW forces https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17480.1335.html. I haven't yet for my ECW, though once I do a few more rounds of work on them to flesh out the forces for a bigger game I may find them useful, though I'm hoping I can use the different flags as enough of an identifier. Depends a lot on the game rules too, how much visual information you need on the table, i.e. do you just need to identify different units or do they have stat lines worth being able to tell at a glance too. I'm not familiar with what you need for GaPa, which I think is what you said you were using?

Correct, it's Gå På. I think stat lines and unit type would probably be useful info to have on the base (stat lines are always useful), and I am already using dice frames to keep track on unused orders on command stands and the "healthiness" level (called "steps" in the rules, representing starting manpower, casualties, morale shock etc) on the infantry and cavalry stands.

Those ECW labels looked great, I may need to sheck out more of that thread, thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 25 April 2022, 11:02:31 AM
We find labels and stats lines on the units let you focus on the tactics and really speed up play

As Pierre the Shy mentioned in another thread we play quite a few different rule sets and keeping everything straight can be a challenge

It's also really useful for players who aren't that familiar with the period or if you are playing display games
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 April 2022, 12:43:51 PM
Some lunchtime experiments using a mix of colour and codes/numbers:

(https://i.imgur.com/gwXEqgw.jpeg)

And a "busier" shot

(https://i.imgur.com/InDjyhA.jpeg)

I think the half base width stripe as suggested by fred works reasonably well, and as it'll be division (or brigade in ITLSU I think) there'll only need a couple of colours for even larger games. So can stay in the muted tones. I think white number on the black at the right is good for the smallest level, just between stripes and numbers for representing the mid level. Leaning towards stripes as they're clearer against a coloured background and usually only going to be 3 or 4 per division.

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 25 April 2022, 12:55:06 PM
Nearest the camera, middle works for me (brown with stripes, black with number)

The senior officer packs are useful to add some variety. I'm a sucker for any of the smaller packs to mix things up a bit!

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 25 April 2022, 01:02:49 PM

QuoteNearest the camera, middle works for me (brown with stripes, black with number)
Yeah that's leading the pack for me, plus stripes are easier to paint on than numbers so clearer against the colour (I'd consider making printed ones but that would involve getting my printer fixed as it only works in black and white at the moment).
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 April 2022, 07:17:20 PM
Initial forces done.

BEF:

(https://i.imgur.com/N7T62mj.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ejaLKiB.jpeg)
Germany:

(https://i.imgur.com/7I5CKrm.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WQKiGDR.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 27 April 2022, 08:08:21 PM
They look good - and quick work too

I know you said you were doing picklehube covers the same as the uniforms, but you might want to try doing them in buff or pale green, adds a nice bit of contrast to the figures
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 27 April 2022, 08:20:29 PM

QuoteThey look good - and quick work too

I know you said you were doing picklehube covers the same as the uniforms, but you might want to try doing them in buff or pale green, adds a nice bit of contrast to the figures
Thanks, yeah I've been thinking I might do some future units in the different colour covers as uniform roll out was probably variable as forces got moved around.


The British will get some variability with the Scottish and Indian units so helmet covers will help with the Germans to set them apart a bit.

Going to need to do some trawling through the ranges to find some suitable Ghurka subs (probably Anzacs as they had slouch hats, though possibly pinned on different sides). As far as I can tell there's no lowland Scots in the range, unless any of the Highlanders are in trews, so the poor lowlanders will likely either be represented with Highlanders or standard uniform as I'm not getting into head swaps!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 28 April 2022, 02:34:30 PM
Very nice, Matthew.  8)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 April 2022, 02:42:01 PM
Good work
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 18 May 2022, 11:10:54 PM
In a big push of a different sort, I'm happy to report that after an intensive week long bombardment and a grueling four day battle, the May Day Offensive of Operation Hector achieved the desired breakthrough. Unfortunately the army took a battering and has taken some time to recover but the troops are advancing well now.

I'll let you work that one out...

http://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2022/05/18/progress-update-april-2022/
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 19 May 2022, 07:34:33 AM
Congratulations on the new addition to the family! As with many firsts it can be very hard work. Enjoy the time whilst he is small - before you know if they are at school, then at university...


Liking the ECW forces too
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 19 May 2022, 09:11:24 AM
Wot Fred sed :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 May 2022, 09:23:55 AM

QuoteEnjoy the time whilst he is small - before you know if they are at school, then at university...
And is that when you get to sleep again? 


Thanks!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Matt J on 19 May 2022, 09:52:38 AM
Congratulations!

To be honest a couple of years down the line you forget how hard those first few months really were. Then you have another one....
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 May 2022, 10:25:05 AM
Or you look at overpopulation figures....
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 19 May 2022, 12:21:38 PM
QuoteAnd is that when you get to sleep again?


Thanks!
There is a magic point some in the early school years, where they suddenly become fairly independent so you don't have to do everything for them. Shortly thereafter you become a taxi service. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 19 May 2022, 12:24:28 PM

QuoteThere is a magic point some in the early school years, where they suddenly become fairly independent so you don't have to do everything for them. Shortly thereafter you become a taxi service.
Between the "gremlin" baby stage and the "grunting" adolescent stage. It's all worth it in the end (or is that just the Stockholm syndrome of parenthood kicking in?)  ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 26 May 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Hobby time has been fairly limited of late as you can imagine, but I've been pottering away at the MDF trenches when I have a few spare moments:

(https://i.imgur.com/2R5Q76w.jpeg)
Still a lot to do but they come together easily enough, though the staggered ones are a bit fiddly. My plan is to fill them with polyfill or the like then sprinkle with grit. I want to line the parapet with sandbags, I'm thinking just roll out a thin flattened sausage of milliput or green stuff and chop every 5mm or so, then layer them all up and paint the lot.

Also been getting drips and drabs of eBay deliveries. My battlescale buildings arrived today, I got both 6mm and 10mm to try.

6mm 
(https://i.imgur.com/fieyBFh.jpeg)
These fit well enough for the purpose I think. Assuming I want a "town sector" to be around 75mm square for the grand scale stuff these will do well and don't look too outscaled, particularly if I add a bit of a base to them to raise them a bit.

The 10mm buildings look good
(https://i.imgur.com/LyS2QTk.jpeg)
But are just too big for the grand scale stuff as I'd have a hard time fitting any troops into the urban sector with them, I'll save them for my smaller/skirmish level games where j maybe only need a single urban area on a map so can spread them a bit.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 July 2022, 02:32:03 PM
Hobby time has been somewhat limited of late, though I have been using the time to develop some of my thinking on my various rule sets, fleshing out the Medieval/Crusades rules and starting on some Heroic Warfare ones based around my Trojan War project. These share a bit of DNA with my Japanese rules and has helped develop some concepts introduced in them. More on those another time however.

The other thing I've been doing is clearing out the spare room a bit which had become a bit of a dumping ground for furniture and junk while we sorted out the bedroom and nursery. It is now reasonably well cleared and I have been able to put up both my tables, meaning I can play larger games now. This has motivated me to finish my 2mm Crimean War project as I had stalled it due to lack of play space. 

First a couple of commands for the Turks:
(https://i.imgur.com/GST62oo.jpeg)
And the French forces:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZF3iwJs.jpeg)
This gives me all I need to play The Alma, though I'll need to order a few more bits to play Inkerman.

Next up is working out the terrain requirements. I have I think enough river pieces but have started making some bits to represent the Black Sea that the Alma runs into as well as a tributary stream. I've also a bunch of woodland pieces to make (pretty easy in 2mm) and need to work out what to do about the contours and hills.  :-\
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 July 2022, 03:27:41 PM
Look good
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: sunjester on 11 July 2022, 06:53:34 AM
 =D>  =D>  =D>
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 08 August 2022, 09:04:56 PM
Took a break from terrain making (so many hills....) to do a bit of painting as my brush hand was getting itchy.

A few artillery reinforcements for the Imperial Germans and a forward observer:

(https://i.imgur.com/spN9cFB.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SgioKJF.jpeg)

I don't know much about ships so they're a little basic, and I haven't the patience to thread in rigging.

And to support the Allied invasion of the Crimea, a few ships of the line patrol the Black Sea:

(https://i.imgur.com/C1L7jxM.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LFv9yBe.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 08 August 2022, 09:34:51 PM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 August 2022, 09:44:15 PM
Fabulous sir
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 08 August 2022, 10:14:17 PM
They look good

I do like the Germans in a more green uniform
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 09 August 2022, 06:28:49 AM
Lovely work there 8) .
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 August 2022, 10:39:34 PM
Thanks  :)

Had some time to myself today so thought I'd put it to good use 

6mm battle scale buildings

(https://i.imgur.com/Lz3sHDP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g7PxyMs.jpeg)

And a pair of bridges

(https://i.imgur.com/X1Au0ZG.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XfBLNiE.jpeg)

They're nice models, I've a few more bits and pieces from them to do in future.

Also added a unit of parliamentary horse for the ECW.


Colonel John Fiennes' Regiment of Horse
(https://i.imgur.com/KJQDZOv.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vvospQ3.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 August 2022, 10:44:48 PM
Looking good!

Keep meaning to get some of Battlescale's 3mm stuff. This may prove inspirational.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 11 August 2022, 10:48:26 PM

QuoteLooking good!

Keep meaning to get some of Battlescale's 3mm stuff. This may prove inspirational.
Their 3mm stuff does look nice, though not sure how it would stack against my existing 2mm buildings. Should probably have got some in the building to compare, might be okay in different map parts.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 12 August 2022, 02:10:29 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 21 August 2022, 11:24:22 PM
Few recent additions, Greek Hoplites and Roman Auxilia

(https://i.imgur.com/RNX1bdE.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TOXW4xz.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YdVC2Xv.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j58uTrM.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tFxha3p.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mdaDiwe.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 August 2022, 01:05:50 AM
Looking good. I particularly like the Romans.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 August 2022, 10:08:57 AM
Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Techno 3 on 23 August 2022, 11:20:56 AM
Very nice work, Matthew ! :-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 August 2022, 12:44:35 PM
I have to agree with Phil  :o
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2022, 01:53:49 PM
Thank you kindly, all.

I've had these painted a couple of weeks but only getting to photographing now, a test unit of Great War Gordon Highlanders. Doesn't seem to be a machine gunner with the right head so fudged it a bit with paint. 

(https://i.imgur.com/us4svH4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Cmmw3yx.jpg)

Does anyone happen to know if they would have had their kilts on show like this for early war? I know by mid and late war they used khaki tunics to cover them, or wore khaki kilts, or even (horror of horrors) trousers becoming more widely used but can't find anything definitive to say if they were using the khaki tunics from the beginning? I suspect they probably were which would be easier to paint, but lose some of the colour on a very drab battlefield!

Also finally got around to updating my blog (I think all with stuff already posted here): https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2022/09/06/progress-update-may-to-august-2022/

I've been playing some play-by-post and solo roleplaying games lately as well, started up a new blog to record some of my sessions on https://mmcvrpg.home.blog/. Just the one entry so far (https://mmcvrpg.home.blog/2022/09/04/dark-times-1-a-blot-on-the-landscape-ironsworn-solo/) but hope to populate it with more as games unfold if anyone is interested in reading narrative style posts.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Steve J on 06 September 2022, 04:29:15 PM
Nice work there and the kilts look good and like the colourful tartan. No idea whether these were used early war or not I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2022, 04:35:23 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2022, 05:34:24 PM
These look good. And I bought some recently to add to my early war British. 

I feel that khaki kilts were warn in 1914 but it would be good if the coloured ones were used too. 

With the MGs wound a quick run through with a file convert the cap to a glengarry?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2022, 05:37:15 PM

QuoteThese look good. And I bought some recently to add to my early war British.

I feel that khaki kilts were warn in 1914 but it would be good if the coloured ones were used too.

With the MGs wound a quick run through with a file convert the cap to a glengarry?
It probably would do the job, I'll see if it bothers me at tabletop distance and see from there, suspect it's fine at distance 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: DecemDave on 06 September 2022, 05:37:39 PM
 =D> Lovely 10mm tartans.  That single hair brush has obviously come in handy again.   :D

I have moved my Jacobites even later in the lead pile project plan.   X_X
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2022, 06:03:00 PM
From 25mins googling WWI kilt usage. I'm not sure is the summary about colour!

Kilts were in widespread use in Scottish regiments and kilts were in the tartan patterns
But kilt aprons were also in widespread use, these were a khaki or tan cotton covering for a kilt. This seems to have been as much to protect the kilt as from a camouflage perspective. These were issued from 1903. 
There are photos of troops in tartan kilts in combat gear - but I suspect these are training photos rather than front line. 

Regimental COs had a lot of leaway over application of regulations. And there were a lot of Scottish battalions. 

Therefore I think having the odd battalion in tartan is fine (and certainly looks good)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2022, 06:13:51 PM

QuoteFrom 25mins googling WWI kilt usage. I'm not sure is the summary about colour!

Kilts were in widespread use in Scottish regiments and kilts were in the tartan patterns
But kilt aprons were also in widespread use, these were a khaki or tan cotton covering for a kilt. This seems to have been as much to protect the kilt as from a camouflage perspective. These were issued from 1903.
There are photos of troops in tartan kilts in combat gear - but I suspect these are training photos rather than front line.

Regimental COs had a lot of leaway over application of regulations. And there were a lot of Scottish battalions.

Therefore I think having the odd battalion in tartan is fine (and certainly looks good)
Yeah that was my impression too. A lot of pictures from the front in WW1 were staged behind enemy lines so hard to say how much was combat reality vs propaganda. Think I'll do a few units with colour and the rest khaki. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: pierre the shy on 06 September 2022, 07:54:26 PM
Those look really nice MMcV  :-bd

I got Paul to paint up a unspecified highland battalion with tartan kilts for "If the Lord Spares Us" a few years ago; https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.75.html (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.75.html)

Looks like I just left the machine gunners for the unit open to a charge as they are wearing caps rather than glengarries  ;) 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 September 2022, 07:58:49 PM

QuoteThose look really nice MMcV  :-bd

I got Paul to paint up a unspecified highland battalion with tartan kilts for "If the Lord Spares Us" a few years ago; https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.75.html (https://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,15515.75.html)

Looks like I just left the machine gunners for the unit open to a charge as they are wearing caps rather than glengarries  ;) 
They are lovely, as I'd expect from Paul!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: paulr on 07 September 2022, 11:02:13 AM
:-[  :-[  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 November 2022, 03:23:01 PM
Been about two months since I was last able to pick up a paintbrush but got a few opportunities in the past few days to blow off the painting cobwebs.

Some hoplites:
(https://i.imgur.com/TxaThsR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/feCMle0.jpg)

Some nuddie Celts:
(https://i.imgur.com/i1V6abl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G2j3cbY.jpg)

And some Romans:
(https://i.imgur.com/uQ1V9uL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gAFePq4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 November 2022, 06:02:10 PM
Good mix of nicely painted stuff
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Post by: Techno 3 on 12 November 2022, 10:12:04 AM
Very nice, Matthew ! :-bd
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 November 2022, 10:20:34 AM
Looking good - but doubt the green roman uniform, only colour ever found is red.
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Post by: Raider4 on 12 November 2022, 10:27:41 AM
QuoteLooking good - but doubt the green roman uniform, only colour ever found is red.
Primary sources would disagree with you:

(https://www.pipelinecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/asterix_v21_soldiers.jpg)

(From https://www.pipelinecomics.com/asterix-v21-asterix-and-caesars-gift/)
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Post by: mmcv on 12 November 2022, 12:08:39 PM
QuoteLooking good - but doubt the green roman uniform, only colour ever found is red.


Red and white were certainly most common, along with greys, browns, etc. But there was no known law that all had to wear red or white and auxiliaries would be known to wear blues and greens so we know those colours were used. Typically they would be clad in whatever was cheap and plentiful at the time. Red was usually pretty cheap, or undyed wool for white, but other colours were available and there's no evidence for or against their use. Particularly on campaign, if they needed replacement tunics they'd likely just seize local fabrics available. So thought I'd give a more colourful mix.
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Post by: fsn on 12 November 2022, 04:05:45 PM
Indeed. The Osprey on this subject suggests that "Green tunics are rare and the evidence suggests that they may have be reserved for higher grade troops" Roman Military Clothing (2), Graham Sumner

I have one Imperial legion in red and one in white. The auxiliaries I have put in more natural colours, but did consider blue and green tunics. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 13 November 2022, 09:28:35 AM
Yeah I have the auxiliaries in a more muted dark green for a lower quality look. 

Question, for the eagle bearer do people generally base them separately to attach to whichever unit or embed them in the unit. My thinking is it was typically carried by the first cohort so embedded makes sense.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 November 2022, 09:30:50 AM
Depends how confident your army is feeling, up front and proud, or skulking at the back, but yes, I would embed
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Post by: mmcv on 19 November 2022, 09:05:59 PM
Rest of the Romans still in progress but a little diversion to Japan with another "generic" Sengoku Jidai mixed unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/SbzIEUK.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PpB6O6o.jpeg)

I'd run out of sashimono so ended up making my own out of card. They came out well and were easy to paint on and attach so will do that again. In theory would be easier still if I printed a load out but why make things easy for myself?
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Post by: fred. on 20 November 2022, 07:34:13 AM
With the sashimono, I have printed the designs on paper and glued to the little metal back banners. Making the whole thing out of printed cardboard, seems the next logical step. 
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Post by: mmcv on 20 November 2022, 09:52:16 AM

QuoteWith the sashimono, I have printed the designs on paper and glued to the little metal back banners. Making the whole thing out of printed cardboard, seems the next logical step.
Yeah, I folded the card over to give it a little more heft, though next time might just stick two strips together and make the designs before cutting. The card sticks to the back of the figures so much easier than the metal, no messing around with baking soda and frustration. The metal ones do probably look a little better for elite painting, but for my basic tabletop level works well.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 November 2022, 10:23:29 AM
Looking great
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Post by: mmcv on 11 January 2023, 08:49:04 AM
Actually sat down at my painting desk for the first time in about 8 weeks. Got about half an hour yesterday evening of sorting some figures onto sticks and priming a few. At this rate, I should manage to complete a unit by about June...
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Post by: fred. on 11 January 2023, 10:28:39 AM
A little done is better than nothing done!

I do find motivation and available capacity to paint vary quite a lot. 
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Post by: mmcv on 11 January 2023, 10:45:35 AM

QuoteA little done is better than nothing done!

I do find motivation and available capacity to paint vary quite a lot.
Yeah for sure, my issue is usually capacity more than motivation, but I'm definitely feeling the itch a lot stronger after going so long without doing any painting. Especially now I'm back to work after a couple of weeks off I've less urge for digital hobbies/distractions after spending the entire day on a screen and crave something a little more analogue. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 January 2023, 12:07:33 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 11 January 2023, 08:49:04 AMActually sat down at my painting desk for the first time in about 8 weeks. Got about half an hour yesterday evening of sorting some figures onto sticks and priming a few. At this rate, I should manage to complete a unit by about June...

Must've been something in the air. Couldn't sleep, so did half an hour of painting in the wee small hours. First time since before Christmas.
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Post by: mmcv on 11 April 2023, 03:40:19 PM
Got some time over the Easter break to have a good crack at painting, it's been a while so felt good to get the paints out and have a bit of time to relax, feel like I've had very little time for that of late!

Pictures (hopefully) coming soon but have a nice mix of Trojans, Romans and Parliament-men done. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 12 April 2023, 01:52:15 PM
Imperial Romans, this actually rounds out my "mini" starter army with the first cohort, the equities and commanders.

(https://imgur.com/LPkUiOS.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/nAy7Es5.jpg)

Three more horse for the ECW Parliament forces, Fairfax (blue), Sheffield (king's head) and Associated Horse (green).

(https://imgur.com/iryZcmW.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/PjP87Ge.jpg)

And some Trojan allies, the Lycians (the colourful ones with the horned helms) and the Paphlagonians:

(https://imgur.com/p3MAAxY.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/DLYZvFp.jpg)

Basing on these isn't complete, just a basic layer, the plan is to do the entire project's basing once complete (in a decade or so...)

Apologies for the shoddy camera work, doesn't seem to cope well with trying to photograph multiple units at once.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 April 2023, 06:47:52 PM
Very nice work sir.
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Post by: fred. on 12 April 2023, 09:33:39 PM
Good stuff! Glad to see you getting figures painted up again. I do like the ECW cavalry. 
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Post by: Techno 3 on 13 April 2023, 11:15:53 AM
Excellent, Matthew !  :-bd
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Post by: mmcv on 21 April 2023, 06:29:58 PM
Got some more done this past week, photos in due course.

You really appreciate how good and stable the bases on pendraken figures are. Usually just need the odd clip. Took me twice as long to base the same number of figures from another manufacturer with chunky narrow bases. Lots of filing and frustration as figures faceplanted into PVA...
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 22 April 2023, 10:03:06 PM
Celtic warriors

(https://i.imgur.com/jRDSMer.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/T9hHlW5.jpg)

Celtic Archers
(https://i.imgur.com/NmK718h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rFozSNp.jpg)

Greek Skirmishers
(https://i.imgur.com/81D7Ex8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8suN88t.jpg)

These are Trojan allies, haven't decided who yet, but possibly Memnons Aethiopians
(https://i.imgur.com/RgXKOQh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uWjorl9.jpg)

And some Trojan War casualty tokens, look away now if squeamish...

(https://i.imgur.com/MVwIGam.jpg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 April 2023, 11:20:54 PM
Nice, but no Keira in the Celtic archers?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 23 April 2023, 08:48:23 AM
Lots more progress - the switch from Celts to Greeks confused me for a moment (easily done these days :) )

The Aethiopians might look better with a bit more work to blend the cast bases in, even just some sand / beige paint on them?
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 April 2023, 09:34:38 AM
The confusion comes to us all with age....good stuff
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 23 April 2023, 09:35:23 AM
QuoteNice, but no Keira in the Celtic archers?
No but that's her great, great, great, great..... grandfather on the front right.



QuoteLots more progress - the switch from Celts to Greeks confused me for a moment (easily done these days :) )

The Aethiopians might look better with a bit more work to blend the cast bases in, even just some sand / beige paint on them?
Yeah I've been jumping about a bit, just clearing down the pile and trying to round out some of the ancient mini armies. Got some hoplites and greek command on the next set of sticks which should give me enough to field a classical Greek army, though the plan is to expand it enough to mix and match two forces together for some Peloponnese action. I'm building them mostly using TtS army lists but I'm not convinced they handle the nuances of hoplite on hoplite warfare so may have to try out some other rules or do some homebrew.


You're right on the Aethiopians but for my Trojan War project I want consistent basing across the board and my end goal is to have a table set up for it with some sort of terrain board or mat, so I'm holding off doing anything other than a base layer until I know how that's going to look to match it all in, then I can do them all consistently.

I suspect I might go for my Classical Greek style basing as seen on the greek skirmishers but I figure I'll make a large batch basing mix when I come to do the boards and use that to build up the figure bases a bit more.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 29 April 2023, 10:06:06 PM
Athenian command and Epilektoi (chosen):

(https://i.imgur.com/v2QdBz4.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LQMVVap.jpeg)

The alien ghost things in the shields are meant to be owls... X_X

I might try again at some point.
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Post by: paulr on 30 April 2023, 12:57:58 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd

The back left one looks pretty owlish ;)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 April 2023, 12:08:58 PM
Twits! Who?
Good effort on those
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Post by: fsn on 30 April 2023, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 29 April 2023, 10:06:06 PMThe alien ghost things in the shields are meant to be owls... X_X
You're a braver man that I!

My shields have geometric designs (hence a lot of Spartan Lambda's) or I use decals.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 April 2023, 01:48:38 PM
Quote:-bd  =D>  :-bd

The back left one looks pretty owlish ;)

QuoteTwits! Who?
Good effort on those


Far too generous!



QuoteYou're a braver man that I!

My shields have geometric designs (hence a lot of Spartan Lambda's) or I use decals.


I faffed around a bit with decals on 28mm when I first started out and found them a pain, so resolved to challenge myself to paint my shields and flags etc where possible. It looks a lot less clean than decals, but then my painting isn't exactly professional standard so 🤷‍♂️

In theory over time it'll improve my ability to do detailed work. In theory...

If I'd done blue on white I could have used fineliners for an easier time, but I don't make things easy for myself.
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 April 2023, 01:50:21 PM
Using Decals on my refurbishing lammig hoplies, yes its a pain.
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Post by: fsn on 30 April 2023, 08:58:26 PM
Pah! It is a trial of endurance! It is character building.

I put decals on 78 Japanese and 60 US 1:600 aircraft and ... yeah it broke me. The Japanese weren't too bad, but getting the US stars pointing the same way!  8-}
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 April 2023, 09:19:23 PM
Try hand painting Italian fascies on Tumbling Dice WW2!!!
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Post by: pierre the shy on 01 May 2023, 03:47:18 AM
If you are using decals for shields/roundels etc do you use decal surface preparation liquid before and decal sealer after applying the decal to hold it in place or just varnish over it?

Sorry for any thread diversion MMcV... 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 01 May 2023, 06:33:23 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 01 May 2023, 03:47:18 AMIf you are using decals for shields/roundels etc do you use decal surface preparation liquid before and decal sealer after applying the decal to hold it in place or just varnish over it?
I usually brush matt varnish over it, but have been known to use a thinned PVA glue over the top. Never used surface preparation liquid. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 01 May 2023, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 30 April 2023, 09:19:23 PMTry hand painting Italian fascies on Tumbling Dice WW2!!!
No thanks. I used decals (78 aircraft.)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 06 May 2023, 10:11:18 PM
Blog post with a roundup of the year so far https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2023/05/06/progress-update-jan-to-april-2023/ though most of it done in the past month.

I also got a game in today for the first time in over a year, it should get posted once I get it written up.
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Post by: fsn on 07 May 2023, 08:21:59 AM
Interesting read. Wide range of projects, though nothing with an engine. :-\
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Post by: mmcv on 07 May 2023, 01:48:04 PM

QuoteWide range of projects, though nothing with an engine. :-\
Indeed, my interests haven't ventured too far into anything so modern, though do have a few on the horizon that might involve an engine or two, though I've just never really been drawn to vehicular combat. Yet.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fsn on 07 May 2023, 05:14:27 PM
QuoteYet.
:-bd
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2023, 11:58:55 PM
Some recent additions to the classical Greeks

(https://i.imgur.com/1ZS0FJx.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TY6iFXh.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g6hZXu1.jpeg)

And with that I bid you a good knight...
(https://i.imgur.com/D1VcID5.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BqPoCZs.jpeg)
...or thirty
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Post by: paulr on 31 May 2023, 12:04:08 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 May 2023, 08:41:49 AM
Nice
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Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2023, 10:16:41 PM
Thanks

Trojan War again, the Messenians, led by Nestor's sons:

(https://i.imgur.com/lIYiMvH.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/srcBdbT.jpeg)
Old Nestor will likely appear later as a hero/command figure

Basing to come later too.

Then a bit of a refresh job, these medieval crossbowmen have been repainted and some fresh basing:

(https://i.imgur.com/bDyK4ph.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lYlaNi4.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ld4wQMP.jpeg)
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Post by: FierceKitty on 02 June 2023, 02:16:30 AM
It's funny how in these armies one always encounters him as "Old Nestor"; I felt obliged to paint him with grey hair myself. Every old man was young once!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 June 2023, 07:03:45 AM

QuoteIt's funny how in these armies one always encounters him as "Old Nestor"; I felt obliged to paint him with grey hair myself. Every old man was young once!
I mean if I was doing the Argonauts then it would be more appropriate for him to be in his prime but the illiad makes much of his age and wisdom (even if it is sometimes questionable). Though he's usually described as a horseman (charioteer) with a golden shield, haven't decided if I should do him as such or in his wise counsel guidse
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Post by: Orcs on 02 June 2023, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 June 2023, 02:16:30 AMIt's funny how in these armies one always encounters him as "Old Nestor"; I felt obliged to paint him with grey hair myself. Every old man was young once!

Even those on the forum  :)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 June 2023, 02:17:35 PM
Very nice
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Post by: mmcv on 04 June 2023, 10:01:49 PM
May's update https://mmcvhistory.home.blog/2023/06/04/progress-update-may-2023/
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 June 2023, 10:09:47 PM
Good work Matthew
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Post by: mmcv on 03 July 2023, 10:51:56 PM
Much of June was a write off for hobby stuff due to real life things but have been chipping away a bit at rebasing and updating some of my Crusades forces.

A couple of new command bases up first for the Holy Orders, my existing ones were bigger diorama bases and while I like the look of them they don't quite suit the direction I'm taking things.

(https://i.imgur.com/BvpFOXJ.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Mcwd78S.jpeg)
And some lesser command figures for them, Turcopoliers

(https://i.imgur.com/wqz0TPD.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/O86jwjc.jpeg)
And some foot sergeants, mostly repainted and new flags (except the ones on the left)
(https://i.imgur.com/rsJRGHe.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Rla5VKa.jpeg)

Then the holy order knights and men at arms, mostly just a rebase here and some new flags
(https://i.imgur.com/nHZrgFF.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4z9R8Rr.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qoZoaRw.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qNtF7NQ.jpeg)

I'm also working on magnetising the bases for better storage. As this was an early project most of the bases aren't magnetic like my newer ones so working through
(https://i.imgur.com/iuXHnSx.jpeg)
Might touch up some basing on these too

I've some armanian infantry on the painting sticks at the moment, and might have a enough figures kicking about for another unit of knights but need to make a start on rebasing, magnetising and tidying up the Saracens. 

Once that's underway I think I can justify a medieval expansion. Will probably get some more of the TB eastern line to add to the Armanians and possibly start a Byzantine force, and I quite like the look of the TB Islamics. I maybe need some Teutonic knights too..

Though in reality I'll probably drift back to another project before long.
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Post by: Techno 3 on 04 July 2023, 08:02:19 AM
Very nice work !  :)
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Post by: fred. on 04 July 2023, 08:02:45 AM
That is an impressive looking force!

I find that more command bases gives flexibility to use figures in different rule sets, and as each one only needs a few figures, the more the merrier!
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 04 July 2023, 08:13:41 AM
QuoteThat is an impressive looking force!

I find that more command bases gives flexibility to use figures in different rule sets, and as each one only needs a few figures, the more the merrier!
Yeah and can also use the smaller ones as tokens and markers for rules that don't have any "sub commander" needs.


Thanks both, my Crusades armies are by far my largest collection and it's such an expansive period it's easy to add to them. They were my first 10mm foray and got me hooked. That's not even all of them. Might have to lay them all out for a group photo once the magnetic bases are done.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 July 2023, 10:19:31 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 04 July 2023, 08:13:41 AMMight have to lay them all out for a group photo once the magnetic bases are done.

Careful with that - they will end up fighting each other..... ;)
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Post by: mmcv on 04 July 2023, 10:25:14 AM

QuoteCareful with that - they will end up fighting each other..... ;)
Good point, we can't be having with that sort of nonsense!  ;D
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 July 2023, 01:14:23 AM
The medieval rebasing and magnetising effort continues apace. Crusaders are all done and Saracens underway.

To break things up a bit I painted some Armenian infantry

(https://i.imgur.com/5bBy3UE.jpeg)

Which I guess means I have to put together a full Armenian contingent now  :-\
(https://i.imgur.com/hUm7UAZ.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 July 2023, 10:49:14 AM
Love it, suitably grimy! 8) 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 02 August 2023, 10:04:00 PM
Rebasing continues apace. Down to the last stretch now, though getting very frustrated by cavalry refusing to stay upright and collapsing sideways into pools of PVA the moment I take my eyes off them.

Here's a small selection of light infantry and archers who I sorted recently.

(https://i.imgur.com/hEuTfk4.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ohYiIgr.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XoraPX2.jpeg)
The archers required a bit of a paint refresh as first time round I'd done them in a rush for a game and they were a bit scrappy.

I've all the Islamic infantry done, thankfully most of them were just fresh basing material rather than full rebase like the above. My box has space for just one more unit so good thing I have a back of TB line islamic archers lined up on my painting sticks.

Once I paint them, a couple of units of knights and a few individually based token pieces that'll be me officially through all my medieval stuff.

Until my next order that is.

I realised it's been a year since my last order so as I'm finishing out a few projects it might be time to put one in soon.

I'll definitely add a few more of the TB line, I aim to use the Eastern Europeans for Armenian and Byzantine units, and my Islamic forces lack camels, so that needs remedied but it's also time to pick up a new project as well.

Will it be Napoleonics? Seven Years War? Korean War? Russo Japanese War? Something else? All of them? Time and budget will tell.  :-\
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Post by: fred. on 03 August 2023, 08:04:33 AM
Thats some great progress - looks a proper horde now!

If the cavalry aren't standing up properly I'd check the bases and see if they need a quick file to remove any lumps - either from original casting or from the old basing. 

As to your next projects - I think I would initially split the decision between fancy uniforms or drab modern ones. I certainly find at times that painting modern uniforms is great as you can really push though a volume of troops. For SYW to Naps you need to be feeling the need to paint all the complex and fancy bits.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 August 2023, 08:47:36 AM

QuoteThats some great progress - looks a proper horde now!

If the cavalry aren't standing up properly I'd check the bases and see if they need a quick file to remove any lumps - either from original casting or from the old basing.

As to your next projects - I think I would initially split the decision between fancy uniforms or drab modern ones. I certainly find at times that painting modern uniforms is great as you can really push though a volume of troops. For SYW to Naps you need to be feeling the need to paint all the complex and fancy bits.
The uniforms are a bit of a concern, I'll need to find a sustainable approach to them in terms of details. When I started ECW I was painting every detail but soon realised I couldn't see them on the table so stuck to building more if a whole unit look, so could be even worse with those if I'm not practical.


I suspect I'll do more expansion to my Great War collection to scratch the 20th C itch as while I do some more research for Korea, as so far I've mostly just looked at the broad sweeps. RJW is interesting too but close enough to WW1 that I can maybe pick up when that project reaches more maturity.

I was previously swaying more towards SYW/WAS but have been enjoying reading about the Napoleonics more, possibly just because there's a lot more quality information out there for the period.

I'm leaning towards just buying a couple of units for each and seeing how I go as I'll do both at some point no doubt.

I do a bunch of ancients stuff too in the pile that I can dip into for a bit of variety, and I've still a bit to finish in my current ECW pile, though it's mostly cavalry which can be a pain to paint.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: fred. on 03 August 2023, 12:49:18 PM
To me me ECW troops have much simpler uniforms than Naps or SYW. I'd avoided Naps for years, but the Pendraken Pennisular figures tempted me in. I've gone pretty small - with forces for Sharpe Practice so a couple of packs of infantry and some cavalry for each side. These were great figures to paint, but I'm happy with the volume I painted! So I'd suggest going for something skirmish sized to get a feel for the figures but also get something playable?

With Russians I'm very much expecting double (or triple) duty of the WWI Russians I'm painting at the minute (using mainly RJW figures) - I'm expecting to use them for WWI, forward to RCW and potentially back to RJW. 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 03 August 2023, 01:15:24 PM

QuoteTo me me ECW troops have much simpler uniforms than Naps or SYW. I'd avoided Naps for years, but the Pendraken Pennisular figures tempted me in. I've gone pretty small - with forces for Sharpe Practice so a couple of packs of infantry and some cavalry for each side. These were great figures to paint, but I'm happy with the volume I painted! So I'd suggest going for something skirmish sized to get a feel for the figures but also get something playable?

With Russians I'm very much expecting double (or triple) duty of the WWI Russians I'm painting at the minute (using mainly RJW figures) - I'm expecting to use them for WWI, forward to RCW and potentially back to RJW.


Yeah absolutely, I started doing belt buckles, sock buckles, belts, shoes, the works on the ECW whereas now I just stick to the main colours and details as that's all you see.

I did go down the skirmish route with AWI which worked well and I might do the same with at least one of the Nappies theatres at some point but I don't have any big battle horse and musket (other than some 2mm stuff) so think I should do one of them at that scale. 

And yes, I suspect when I come to do Russians they'll do double or triple duty!

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Post by: fred. on 03 August 2023, 05:20:33 PM
With the Naps it was as much to use skirmish as the gateway - the challenge probably is around the differences in basing between skirmish and big battle. 
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Post by: mmcv on 03 August 2023, 06:50:19 PM

QuoteWith the Naps it was as much to use skirmish as the gateway - the challenge probably is around the differences in basing between skirmish and big battle.
Yeah with AWI sharp practice I did 1:1 which let me scale the game way down, though was a little fiddly. I suppose if basing 4 figures on a 20x20 or 25x25 could use that as a single figure for skirmish and a part of a unit for bigger battles
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Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2023, 05:59:46 PM
Been very busy lately but been chipping away at things when I get a few minutes spare. 

These Islamic archers should round out my Islamic infantry forces for the moment. The rest have all been rebase and freshened up but these are a new one from the TB line range

(https://i.imgur.com/AF8dBIR.jpeg)

I've also completed the rebasing of the Islamic cavalry, including some paint touch ups and new flags on these heavy cavalry troops

(https://i.imgur.com/ztfgeE7.jpeg)
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Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2023, 06:00:34 PM
I have some TB line knights mostly done in the wings but they got damaged in a fall and lose a few shields. Also a couple short to make full units so may need to pad then out with some other knights. More on that later.
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2023, 06:05:30 PM
Do I get a promotion at 3,000 post?
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Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2023, 06:05:36 PM
Let's see 
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Post by: mmcv on 09 September 2023, 06:05:46 PM
Yup, drinks on me lads
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 September 2023, 10:03:54 PM
Those are splendid.
Congratulations on the promotion Major General.
I'll have a cold beer
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Post by: paulr on 10 September 2023, 03:04:40 AM
 :-bd  =D>  :-bd

Congratulations Major General
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Post by: Techno 3 on 10 September 2023, 07:26:45 AM
Congrats, Matthew !
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 September 2023, 07:41:00 AM
Me usual pint of Creme de Menthe - and quick about it !!  ;)
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Post by: fsn on 10 September 2023, 09:32:15 AM
Congratulations Maj-Gen.

I'm sure you are the very model of a model Major-General
With information valuable - animal, materiel
You know the king of England, and can quote their fights historical
from Aylesford to Dettingen; this question's quite rhetorical.
 
Title: Re: The Marvelous Miscellany of MMcV
Post by: mmcv on 10 September 2023, 01:36:42 PM
I shall have to grow out my whiskers extra long to establish a proper major general moustache.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 September 2023, 01:37:25 PM
Wasn't Techno acting as a linesman at Aylesford?