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Title: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 30 May 2020, 09:57:13 AM
Whereas I find the Medieval ranges to be lovely Pendraken goodliness, and I have dived deep into the catalogue, I do feel we're missing an iconic figure. The title of the thread may have given it away but the knight of about 1400. Plate and mail, bascinet, surcoat.  This sort of thing:-

(https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api/collection/v1/iiif/23205/1896426/main-image)(https://66.media.tumblr.com/7f0fe42a7857f3fe0b7ed5dbcb1c2ac4/tumblr_inline_ocvfenRE9q1rtdfb6_500.jpg)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/cAQgLcFPLSEiilirsgsmqH7FwLaww2gqaD2GGYUqOhLziNaNvO2OjBij326ky_nWygA7j-xmIKr5I-SeLDX-VMs30N8b9kTfbnZ-_62JvTWscAWtp1kOd0fTKuKMJy8hMg)(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/f4/98/16f4989a3b2c2e002ce50571c682cbc7.jpg)

Could you add them to the very long wish list? Please?   :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 May 2020, 10:15:34 AM
Seeing as it's you NO !!!
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 10:17:18 AM
Ooooh....I dunno...Even though he's an OIK !

Cheers - Phil ;)
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 May 2020, 03:02:57 PM
Let's not have that language on here Nobby! ;D
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 30 May 2020, 05:20:23 PM
Sorry Lemmey.  :-[


Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Big Insect on 30 May 2020, 07:55:36 PM
Arnt they technically called 'dog-faced' bascinets?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Techno on 30 May 2020, 10:17:18 AM
Ooooh....I dunno...Even though he's an OIK !

Cheers - Phil ;)

Surely you meant an Oink?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Techno on 30 May 2020, 09:10:53 PM
 ;D  ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: flamingpig0 on 31 May 2020, 01:42:44 AM
Quote from: Techno on 30 May 2020, 09:10:53 PM
;D  ;D

Cheers - Phil

I keep misreading the title as pig faced bastards.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 04:02:31 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 30 May 2020, 08:26:21 PM
Surely you meant an Oink?

=O
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: OldenBUA on 31 May 2020, 07:21:36 AM
Quote from: Big Insect on 30 May 2020, 07:55:36 PM
Arnt they technically called 'dog-faced' bascinets?
Well, they are in German, where these are called 'hundsgugel'. But in French it's 'bec de passereau', i.e. sparrow's beak. And pig-faced seems to be the accepted English term. In all cases, I think these are the names given in later times by historians anyway.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 31 May 2020, 10:20:29 AM
Frankly, Scarlet, you can call 'em what you want, but please may I have them on the wish list?

They've always been pig-faced bascinets to me, and I've always liked the look.

Actually, I can date my attraction to the look to 1973, when my dad bought me the Hamlyn All -Colour Paperback "Arms and Armour" by Frederick Wilkinson - thought to be fair he doesn't use the term "pig faced". (Wilkinson that is. Dad could be cruel.)

(https://pic.ebid.net/upload_big/8/3/4/1402075649-5484-17.jpg)

I think my disquiet about the Renaissance started abut the same time.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 01:07:06 PM
Ah, the sort of book that maintains history began in 1066 and ended in 1945, and never took place east of Mesopotamia unless the English exported it!
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: mollinary on 31 May 2020, 01:26:31 PM
And your point is?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 01:30:52 PM
That it's good to feel how much the world has opened up from the desperately introverted and jingoistic xenophobia I and some others at least grew up in. Subtext: I don't have much time for certain types of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: John Cook on 31 May 2020, 01:33:52 PM
Show us your kitties.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Ithoriel on 31 May 2020, 01:56:05 PM
Q: What do you use if your pig-faced bascinet chafes?
A: Oinkment

Q: What do you call a knight who's removed his pig-faced bascinet?
A: Disgruntled

Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 31 May 2020, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 31 May 2020, 01:07:06 PM
Ah, the sort of book that maintains history began in 1066 and ended in 1945, and never took place east of Mesopotamia unless the English exported it!
Yeah, the one with chapters on the Ancient World, the Classical World, Twentieth Century, Africa, America, Asia and Oddities.

Oops! Looks like it subverted your rather narrow expectations.   
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 31 May 2020, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 31 May 2020, 01:56:05 PM
Q: What do you use if your pig-faced bascinet chafes?
A: Oinkment

Q: What do you call a knight who's removed his pig-faced bascinet?
A: Disgruntled

  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 May 2020, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 31 May 2020, 01:56:05 PM
Q: What do you use if your pig-faced bascinet chafes?
A: Oinkment

Q: What do you call a knight who's removed his pig-faced bascinet?
A: Disgruntled



Those deserve a coat chewing !!!!
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: parkerm17 on 02 June 2020, 10:47:07 AM
I wonder if Trump would act as a model for the face?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 June 2020, 11:05:06 AM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 02 June 2020, 10:47:07 AM
I wonder if Trump would act as a model for the face?

No please NOOOOOO
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 02 June 2020, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 02 June 2020, 10:47:07 AM
I wonder if Trump would act as a model for the face?

Per fsn’s request (below) I withdraw my response.

That aside, I would like to add my name to the wishlist.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 02 June 2020, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: parkerm17 on 02 June 2020, 10:47:07 AM
I wonder if Trump would act as a model for the face?
Could we not leave the real world behind when we're on the Forum?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Orcs on 02 June 2020, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: fsn on 02 June 2020, 05:40:43 PM
Could we not leave the real world behind when we're on the Forum?

I left the real world behind long ago, and not just on this forum. :)
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 03 June 2020, 06:54:05 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 02 June 2020, 08:52:09 PM
I left the real world behind long ago, and not just on this forum. :)

We'd noticed !
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 June 2020, 07:02:11 AM
Hmmm, I have a suspicion that a US friend may suggest we do something other than the War of North and South for the campaign beginning this Sunday. I'd better think of a plan B.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 03 June 2020, 04:40:22 PM
Dang! Is no one else interested in adding these figures or was this whole thing simply a joke from the beginning?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 03 June 2020, 04:53:48 PM
I am.   :D
(https://www.akg-images.fr/Docs/AKG/Media/TR5/2/4/8/d/AKG3149282.jpg)
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 03 June 2020, 05:57:51 PM
Figured your interest was real, fsn and you were simply rolling with the punches.  :)
I have the Funcken's medieval series with many fine illustrations. If Techno and Leon are willing maybe we could work together on a commission?
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: Techno on 03 June 2020, 06:42:37 PM
Of Leon's cool with that.........I'm in !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 03 June 2020, 06:49:40 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 05 June 2020, 08:41:00 PM
I am thinking these would be useful from Neville’s Cross through Harlaw (and Agincourt if you want to go continental). I probably just want dismounted figures.
I was apparently asleep when this range was released:
https://pendraken.co.uk/tb-line/middle-ages/europe/
I will probably order the Knights on Foot, as they look like they would work well for Bannockburn.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: paulr on 05 June 2020, 08:48:26 PM
They are good figures and fit in very well with the Pendraken figures, I'll hopefully get some pictures posted this week if the weather cooperates
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: mmcv on 05 June 2020, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 05 June 2020, 08:41:00 PM
I am thinking these would be useful from Neville's Cross through Harlaw (and Agincourt if you want to go continental). I probably just want dismounted figures.
I was apparently asleep when this range was releases:
https://pendraken.co.uk/tb-line/middle-ages/europe/
I will probably order the Knights on Foot, as they look like they would work well for Bannockburn.

Worth checking out the Teutonic line too, has a lot of useful pieces for general medieval https://pendraken.co.uk/tb-line/middle-ages/teutonics/
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: mmcv on 05 June 2020, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: paulr on 05 June 2020, 08:48:26 PM
They are good figures and fit in very well with the Pendraken figures, I'll hopefully get some pictures posted this week if the weather cooperates

Ditto, I just based up 220 mixed TB and Pendraken figures this afternoon. They fit well side by side.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: fsn on 05 June 2020, 09:56:02 PM
Yes, they are lovely ... but not a snout amongst the lot of 'em.
Title: Re: Pig Faced Bascinets
Post by: d_Guy on 06 June 2020, 12:54:30 AM
Thanks for that information Paul and mmcv. Would definitely like to see pics of TP/Pendraken mix.
As you say, fsn, we are still snoutless however.

This is probably coals to Newcastle but here is the page at  MyArmoury:
https://myarmoury.com/feature_spot_bascinet.html

What would be really neat would be figures with open faces and an assortment of snout visors that could be glued on. This is in the category of separate heads and weapons and I think it's been pretty well determined that it would be a massive production nightmare in 10mm.