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Title: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 03 May 2020, 08:33:49 PM
Not sure I can call this a painting diary - as I'm only starting it in May. But nothing is normal anymore...

Some of the my recent painting has been more WWI French - mainly as I have been reading the book Catastrophe which is about 1914, and is very aptly titled!

My WWI forces are based at 1 stand per company, for GWSH which should also work for 1914 by Great Escape Games

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/r4JtJmOTrEuVNYFsy1qb7MsgE9GE3mNUN9xzVR-gRgImryjYADAWmLeGEEG5362fwWjyNGY8G1wFmWPi7IzRPuEzl53S2k2V8PLspUbuw775sInoDr9yAlVbFPADUOCgVtjwJwxCkfnWwwIx__Nsl4mItomcf7iAo1mwmGn5mvKk0sf5JtsKEgl7AXdjxaStYzjGeDKJ81DTdF5PcIRiLHM7MXO4sOaKRgU5OC3Frxvvzje7IAOuoQkLsJnl7oPgK96LSz4DIi1VlyEpD3WAQWFfgXfoOSJqLEOsURTmmf19X3vxzGiqyjjpUsxBiD3F9xFb16w6mmQMkaCIyWPyb710xmZMi5atlwdGGDG22RsdEBlpkT506n1Bw24qYToetO6V9-VQadC_4m_DzvPL6dFaiPD9AjX7Q3sGhTpAGZ_duo1lhB2X8TXzNHG8quWjM5jJTMcyYEyU2HB_Wns3sUEIgnlA9-gbJ-KXxXnM3cEMEdibV0Zdjx5SWu_CACEHNsclOCfeB_4Uo2DobIaDvuV4_qYRRMc82YRSWvtCQWctk1cMIMhVAYBk0_wiJtZCHhy4qYdu1zx8E-PxrS0gpduf-QATVMsuGq9cKqJUdQpMD0DBS2TLxbUbFOS3KUOgW2DMRwjeTUnYU2beQRpbnUM92REnctdYJuNP9uK0OciyO9OCWz88yNsXgnJ1rPf1DgM9eOKEiQ0rd-hZfmtQnx9yp1JzZo2gosD25O1mGFCr5ULDfXwgH-M=w1726-h782-no)
Tirailleurs Sénégalais - most of a regiment, need 5 more figures to make the last two stands. I also need to work out how many MGs they would have had, and then which figures would work for these - Hotchkiss tripod MG, with crew in jackets not great coats (I'm assuming I will need to do some adapting of headgear).

These guys where quite uncommon in 1914 with only around 6 battalions in France - which would make these figures about half of the troops deployed. Later in the war far more troops were deployed from Africa, which around 200,000 Senegalese troops deployed.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K34HtyNZ2i8z9abLZ55D2HIi6wYMxKQZEKgp_0JlvxTrwJsl_dMIURkCYdGdtB3tiMzco3txey_-PmickH_1jpcbCp3HrsAeR-qX_7OAGz01XIsTBTuVql7yaMoBDNudIHGq-68AyQwLxCcN9qGIaT2Uwpqqn0P2JcSX49XKH7j5IxCKTeGsQcUUIyx1e_bUGTrLY3tDTCdd26ygFC8YG4Wom1J8SFA3Up424qOYFyfuBPeNKpG2ZtlSfafE2NhYjpUC5eOrZKcAi1aS4vohg3dU0AaqsQfR89jDlm3P_wIRZ3KjLTbs5fBPzTOHh4oh2zhdCP11V0tbKFC9wbIhRFHfNSSwolrM3sFCuGiRDyDPqx66ebcChnGVUrSlwtVnKnSBD2MfYFjyezEDlWkfBrChIOY4Nko5oY8pb6ccO6Npy5qpM5HWeiOFYnqvDSW-SXB5X-7080XBAv5n1Wykqive2rvqLyQXHEoik3-zoLoXWbcuTo4QN33p57SK0bUT8W8xoRiuSHnFFLx7MA9Nyx1YG85xEC9IL5t_0_lTQN9juFd8KqY2XfU4QtmTHd5HNmekp7TTPQlO1jpTYZWeWQrWTspfANCH0nkelofe4j809ro-llyQBvKXQMEO7klUYtLJ8nSdz79uC_ZtxGtpedH359oz60CjkeqIU1l3PjLJqrBv85jBGjFX7nf-1yWeKtG6lMBXqJV-C7Pj1UnV23nVZTAzjeg9T3O64SI_HnQGBiwvHxatpUU=w1726-h1206-no)
Dragoons in their highly arcane crested helmets, at least they had khaki covers, rather than been bright silver!
At the back are some mounted Magister Militum Dragoons

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Mt3CdxLSGjczxeXlZiGZi9GEkbdMIfUNAstlnL5fwPlE8D-BA3elEHeUUH5JO8vQcamRULwf237X2TV5wT_VyNxc6q6rhHN-sCqUznzEA2IoDa8c7wBlfAdt1wCLze0tOO06FEAb5Oci9Sk2-LkkQMFT1iNi7ydwlMSlFXoavV_XVOQQ64r-cS473hgnXfdNBO_wxYx45LznaG8TLj3sDoxVlMJzNvIxhez198bfWSYauVajQN8NwYKc3h_pOf5J8rWZpHDSofN-IaLKLprOZVx1STHBaxoKR7jAskptUzwxnpiIUmIejE0oL2gC_4JUWYMC4EDXxEEwo518XbJixyENKlj0DeybzOq2-vFptkAPxKWbq4Cc-f4WzVVGbtBCXiiEMUDFXSZBeP081byQEmTBaPcP1RHS8fIG9rEA_kyDcfBRZgr-VpiWUYpf5cC1_E-m_RFHHkuy-aIx06PVYdL5xke06fdtNruI66JHIuesX6u3pq4JVGfGeNYTdL4L9qlghDhjl2brKH858dXQSgQ4hfGYclPQ_-60udfPwPmhheS_9OirWa31qfMKHYINMNUeMJfjRJ8R3gOp0fBAxXVz9aNtSLxtx0y3H0YLVgYVi2Mb6wLjkIeYwsYfbg0APYfyXZyfmwQrjpwO-b9E1KS7kVDwjOWuyHOI8hNt54tP8dquhnZ-h7rJbjiuGJ6_9OXsi_mK-vJ22CGNtNGwp7f2m4oEY3HJtkBrLDNWWme3zTFPrpcJKnk=w1728-h946-no)
French line infantry - Magister Militum figures

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 03 May 2020, 08:37:55 PM
Very nice indeed, Forbes ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 03 May 2020, 08:39:05 PM
These are the total of my French 1914 troops - most painted a while ago!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4wxjWdBrIHjHQIe87GcYnQ4nzSOse_p1Q_90_kbopAT5NVqZwfRjVCEKsVGT3CepOCCPqsr5aCWTnUm7gFkbV9vsR51NACDE0QZblQ5dOg5-dReZKtnsUktibcNDrtrbM1qzLm_sD4RNwe7GY1YJBqFmJNiAsEcZj_oz5xuzhuoTjnbaucpTObWQ90blovb-zBs4It0rQKbzBKCRnWb86fPmF-n45OGwukpQyzA3XwX0NfVPS392paOPzn6ScTHXxl_GkA4epcj0pzqBIq8koPiS3mzCMIWkZOonollnrtYg7tWdhKOrEqxTrmU28fHhxLTsRie4LHHR4S2StN3oOY1K0DCoz7BJECyixTRDZAi1N4IWqIDWoVR6lLI58jkkm_N8kSd3oULa7kz7we5N6TjIP9sU9m6T8J9HBgSsI5Q3D2Fgs0K9f86NZps5PYCHxatf81iUnrYOkJJdcIlR1KI1KtFroT8yGMI6TpA6eXktsFyB4IxJkRDEv__roP5lTah8hpnc119bWYqJfqDJLEuJ870H5VIk1LiW7AIybu07U0kWcuwx7RgeyYMBKZYHcdlk_jX7AtoJfZGAEpnPpSP6PSP-jd2DLTLuqPjR3gXCzgVNqiZiMiepuETFrfwBUywVtYfcyAFNARe6uMEE7-3QiGoRULDnUzxRMJFysh2_GV2Kx3-TQjUixqWfko2TO7MQwdQkp5i4y3zf0j-KaRa94SZ0jXdp3DTi8aeoYoQxwSwPEnGq6Hs=w1726-h1088-no)
This is 3 regiments of infantry, along with divisional artillery and commander, also here are Corps level troops, more 75s and the dismounted Dragoons.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IvPYZYKLBi6A1tFw_RkGKxzlQSL6wwVHIAbsWu8RS7nnlBBJimPbxFVdGIVLINMwf-oRskRsMaypyQ6thVdtM25d6ljOn_heIZa_R3RhLZTgebb6nSmn5H0Jr2M8HO95lRrKTh_BwnBKtvlP0MakvI1_iCwluptVseaB1k1AfXtcTPFtMoH_1oxcjt0BmMMo7kEFPCAdjwy0r9Mu9RSxWxKn1U0CC1CZB9jVNOSrudsd2CujyLKUniDd8CgF50ARIMv1ny-450xIXbzrZSl0OTan2d-wH9XKLVRS97H3JDgZ4tjUt8UrLOGPb5sQFCA8yuqGK6k7gkw_gGZD1d_npSQIQY92DdpkotfSwoqcl0aXE8MqVMYdc5oy9EfGB7mFOee4rNIh2k4aKnedah6ITJuPum8roOwicdWyLmc2U9FcY60COQhlhJqv91aqHoFEg-pelcGIRP1Jk1BUYKwf5_GMyhj6OJNtBt3J4th6_qCb9_CHrrvXur0goyByMUwj7TEucFTsu_mm3hjO1vqC2jAWICaKUzhs6oDU8wgvogXjwPyQ1tOJcQvGiABeLl6TwEUfvmn4TwEmX5aYUvF-9lM1xluH91CcWb7N32K_F2wtuuqOzcVP4U8wtceeU9lM8wLiQYX810_5x1aM66UsveZ6R4aW5irEi1FmM0J_nf4o6__d8lPxCJeqG6AlqWRj4y6JdihqWlLz7g0qC2V2nR6Mc8twlcb8E25BAPnLd_SLK_HYvBTK9FM=w1726-h1328-no)
The other French troops, 155mm guns, more 75s, mounted Dragoons and the Tirailleurs Sénégalais
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 03 May 2020, 08:39:33 PM
Quote from: Techno on 03 May 2020, 08:37:55 PM
Very nice indeed, Forbes ! :-bd

Cheers Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 May 2020, 09:12:07 PM
Beautiful Forbes.
Have you been to Musee de le Grand Guerre? The Senagalese get a huge section.
Thankfully.
Also, a very grim painting of them in the snow...
https://madlemmey.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-visit-to-le-musee-de-la-grande-guerre.html?m=1
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 03 May 2020, 09:29:57 PM
Thanks, mate.

Not been to that museum (not been to France for many years, and I guess not going anytime soon...)

Great link, to a great looking museum.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 04 May 2020, 01:49:55 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 05 May 2020, 07:52:46 PM
Renaissance Irish and English

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1qCfxeq61BvWy_KktNz1veZ-Z6RMO-wlKI8pJAA_iUbmn0uR2ofnyrIKXs2UL4iWEKI9_8hlx2MSO-H5H2S1XnZ793a3TLV4-xsgBZxLsa4AHYtow7i1pFgnAIe-7Dn4yqVa0TE7OSBPOD3waVTBkasgMT1SUGtGzuF4hImOtM9nSiec7zBw7REf32-At6BOqroHvG3aBERBBc8U4p0sfpPKgOaPnaMJCcnMi-1nModqx06GBe-LIfVqxx_f2Nfc3A-6-uIqrO47tDuAhvN1GDrDmg45q-tyNlM4LzRLR3MrYvnNbToDL115qU1O3d2yR8bJ7bjCVYNkgh3Ds1m7t4LZaogKrpTL74eGgTIXY9QpE4P_14cZ_YmpjnTA5BcaLXANyBTjg9loBya2zs3LDQrixJcx4waz_rNtuw2rf94o0LSD_T0spLDSJxTPLx7cl2BtY-B7qjelvu-wD2E-LUsNZ4NoVOMGKwICUEJqjvy5UcqN-OvMhHUBJOxOv3a9cz2G8TLLPLlYA9TKzWTSYmzYTdg8EIzfFw5HD1Ij54y_DXIU4OdI-np2HtYE4fnE0d_KUGekGF0HyCh-_GnZ9cwHTFTeb-0thCifXNsrIPud3ZUh99mFFSwxXrKYf6sFGMC4HRZxFA6J3D2hjs6qp3eQ6PGmqLriV125EIRWsrmj4az4RomDeqEFSbzKnxCt0__xhDDAznuKq4G7VR7au9TNB2r9_f0-INvESJloFdEevAL1_mAvGIU=w1928-h1152-no)

Painted these up fairly recently - the Irish at the front are a wide mixture of codes, including some of the new figures. The Gallowglass at the back right are all the new figures, and very dynamic they are two. In the middle are some English Longbows.

These have already had several games - all remote video games!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 May 2020, 09:27:41 PM
Very nice Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 05 May 2020, 09:50:46 PM
Very nice, I painted up some galllowglass myself recently to pad out some medieval infantry (they work well enough for earlier periods) and was eying some of the Welsh and Irish in the range to add too, though I think they're probably a bit too light.

They're lovely figures though.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 05 May 2020, 10:07:38 PM
Thanks both

Quote from: mmcv on 05 May 2020, 09:50:46 PM
Very nice, I painted up some galllowglass myself recently to pad out some medieval infantry (they work well enough for earlier periods) and was eying some of the Welsh and Irish in the range to add too, though I think they're probably a bit too light.

They're lovely figures though.

That they are. The gallowglass would certainly work for quite a bit earlier - the Bonnachts could be used as well, but as you say they don't have any armour.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Noktu on 05 May 2020, 10:44:37 PM
I really like the way you've done the metallics here. Impactful!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 06 May 2020, 07:13:39 AM
Very nice indeed, Forbes.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 06 May 2020, 08:19:36 AM
Thanks both

Quote from: Noktu on 05 May 2020, 10:44:37 PM
I really like the way you've done the metallics here. Impactful!

They are my normal black base coat, vallejo oily steel, then a touch of silver to highlight. I think they have come out well in the photos, due to my new photography light (a fairly cheap one designed to be mounted on a camera, but works well just stood on the table for minis)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 12 May 2020, 10:05:49 PM
Flags

Added flags to a number of stands of ECW Covenantors  Pendraken flags, but not Pendraken figures) - then realised I needed to paint the white edges. so also touched up the edges of a few others

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ciNX8fDFgUkKzdqDf8r23tgq3Us2JhV_N9hXYE8lizmsfXv5K0NDPjmeGfsF8zgSpPf_mGy1r01QpJKxhly8DdNEWjtmw9rzT5a61hI428lHVE7_eTHFy31ufUbVVI8AybPsrfEIBQ3F4GKB7goRqRzw=w1644-h854-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 May 2020, 12:27:59 AM
Pretty!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 13 May 2020, 06:43:34 AM
Those are very spiffy, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 13 May 2020, 07:52:07 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 May 2020, 08:55:17 PM
Thanks chaps - flags are always good!

I remembered that I'd taken a photo after putting the flags on, but before painting the edges of the flags - which really shows up the white edges

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ewSN48FqiettFbkEaP4y58a6VvT-_BPviUD4nbeCTpEXd8v2T4A05ISeBIcQd5fuapgdGANkDjSs8vBWUDJw1au48rXk2VhIMlUZ6HOuoChI9QrXDrzr3TIGoYrczofYh-zm1Yrq1fb5RDHGljzOgTVA=w1644-h970-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 14 May 2020, 06:43:59 AM
Those are cracking, as well !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 May 2020, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: Techno on 14 May 2020, 06:43:59 AM
Those are cracking, as well !  :-bd

Thanks Phil, they are the same ones as the previous photo...


Warmonger Wingsuits

Painted these up recently - from a recent Warmonger Miniatures kickstarter - with shipping and import duties I'm not working out how much they cost, but these along with the officers were the last in range, so felt I had to get them. And I well pleased with these - they were painted within a few days of the package arriving!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dyV4wKg8kFF0jd2Bveqsmit9Nwaq9q8hycPzJvUbF7kWBvpzkjHEal9KcUfzWFvzQQwrrr47xyRAmhaa0RtrxmRoW__jT4b9OA71CT5MehiLgTxUaNrPZMWOHs-TxzZnJ2Tzhd1fsvCZU04t2dpxnRsg=w1646-h952-no?authuser=0)

Basing still to be finished.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 May 2020, 10:30:12 PM
Love them Forbes, but it does make me want to scream....


"DIVE MY HAWKMEN! DIVE!"
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 May 2020, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey
"DIVE MY HAWKMEN! DIVE!"

(https://static-standard-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/01/03/09/FlashGordon_415.jpg?w968)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 15 May 2020, 01:56:04 AM
 X_X X_X X_X
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 May 2020, 09:41:32 PM
Lots of basing!

Got the painting done on various Elizabethan era Irish this week, so had a big basing session this afternoon after rain intervened to stop gardening becoming too epic an undertaking (yeah!).

We have a right mixture here!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eNkChfm9RthcVfSv94p6IQSSJYXqTOkjgSxSbPsMtu-1JH4yuzy1H5KEaGiQeiFAiUZfpLFeQcssLXlkHTP1v4COsuvxUmfTxSayIN0b7_YpTf3omE3PE9747gsHDg7AFP7-rgBD4MWLDKCdINt3Creg=w1684-h1116-no?authuser=0)

From left to right
GW Warmaster Dwarves
Warmonger Flyers
Pendraken Elizabethan Irish pike and shot
at the front Black Gate Ogre Junk Lobbers

I also based 1 6pdr portee (pendraken) and some WWI French casualties who all escaped the camera.

Next up to flock the bases

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 May 2020, 10:17:57 PM
That's definitely ecclectic Forbes!  :o Nice work sir!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 18 May 2020, 04:31:25 AM
Wot he sed ;)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 18 May 2020, 07:08:42 AM
Thanks both.

Eclectic feels a good word.  :D
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 18 May 2020, 07:48:34 AM
Damn fine work, Forbes !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 18 May 2020, 08:42:43 AM
Thanks Phil. I believe the Irish are your work?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 18 May 2020, 05:29:40 PM
Unless I'm very much mistaken.......Those are the ones that Bill (D_Guy) asked me to make, Forbes ! ;)

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2020, 07:09:15 PM
Mantic Salamanders and Naiads

These were painted up earlier in the year - defiantly not 10mm figures!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cCfykDB3Wub8aDQktx6AYMLiiUWkHqmBC11IYt8PytWHsulbEuCnxtVRjqCydc5UtRN-GQiy8zIKCFqmktu77O3RkpGAgUghX3yPNdNgmIDWz00ZipV3uwIJ_RwQ4Au7q9ExRWQ2QFTJd81Dr3SmPqqA=w1684-h1264-no?authuser=0)

All kind of speed painted - which is about all I can be bothered with for whole units of 28mm figures. Salamanders lots of dry brushing, Naiads lots of washes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 May 2020, 07:20:32 PM
Cool work
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: petercooman on 21 May 2020, 07:25:06 PM
Cool stuff!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 21 May 2020, 08:05:49 PM
Thanks guys! 8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 22 May 2020, 07:42:19 AM
Those look belting !....Especially if you didn't spend much time on them, Forbes :-bd
Very effective !!

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 23 May 2020, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: Techno on 22 May 2020, 07:42:19 AM
Those look belting !....Especially if you didn't spend much time on them, Forbes :-bd
Very effective !!

Cheers Phil = they have a good level of sculpted detail, which makes it easy to paint using washes and dry brushing - plus as non-humans who can say quite how they are supposed to look!

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 23 May 2020, 03:21:39 PM
Irregular Wars: Fantastic Battles

We've been doing quite a lot of live gaming by video chat over the lockdown period, and last night we tried out the beta of the new fantasy version of Irregular Wars. It was just a small game to get a feel for the rules.

I took the Forces of Nature, comprising of a unit of 3 forest shamblers, a single fire elemental, a unit of 2 water elementals, a unit of 3 Slyvan Kin, and finally the monstrous Tree Herder, with the army's Warlord. This army contains a lot of Pendraken figures, but mixed in with quite a few other manufacturers too.

Arrayed against this selection of moving trees, where the brave forces of the Empire. A unit of 4 Halberdiers, a battery of 2 cannons, 2 knights led by their Warlord, and a unit of 4 cross bows.

It was a fairly cluttered battlefield, and for the first few turns the Empire forces were happy to sit back to wait for the Nature troops to advance into their guns. This is the situation after a few turns, were the Water Elementals have taken one round of shooting from the Cannons, and are suffering from it!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cdIS6p_oXagF88LhxicsorXkzVx4l2oGVAbWouA7NXevc9RrcHNsXaik4r-LmUTq_miig3KoC9OpdPWFKSt-ghVFLVDHlykBXAMD7HFMLiRkffVEE_mEoNKZi9wuqu-WrE3rfZ2q2kQECnBYCOO4uRUQ=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)

The water elementals took more shooting damage - being left just 1 point of resolve away from breaking - so took an action to regenerate, drawing strength from the surrounding water (in the ground!) and came back to half strength.

Charge!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cwLaXdyOaE6IuDyRoCElZhpwgqKQS0Fg128RN7y3LCnNGmQ3856cPmeFnzEqVIa3WHGAtJbIBhbo3CKb6YzocdMB6Y3DYN6ckqyFps0SVJjfDZI5v3ZsuQex-xPltc-FvwJN1vGltkRQjoggMzSaLpgQ=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)
At this point it all kicked off! The Sylvan Kin advanced out of the wood and charged the crossbow men. The Knights charged the Water Elementals, and Tree Herder lumbered forwards

The crossbow men vs sylvan kin fight was fairly even - missile troops can stand and shoot as a charge reaction, gaining an extra dice in melee, and by being a bigger unit than their opponent gives them more bonus dice too.


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3faiVmLdcn0t2xPBoxd9fgQzp3DoKB0xYvKvkb6rktF6HR0CWFZufU7XhIP5x6CyZxEtRaVOeImZt7bt6Oar4h4x9ABjecNdGxQuLjSuvONjQUR100ngP8c8OPS3VEDt0_41DX7BX1NcGkR1KcsjFUmJQ=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)

The knights though had rather over cooked things, and left their flank exposed to the fire elemental, who charged in! While Tree Herder got into the other side of the crossbow men.
On the hill on the left the forest shamblers went forward very slowly, while the halberdiers held their line.

The knights destroyed the water elementals, but were still engaged by the fire elementals, who had done a lot of damage to the knights. The crossbow men couldn't stand another round of combat against both the sylvan kin and Tree Herder. The result of this was big gaps

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fxRiRk_WsvHhD8k3XOrFWJ7UsaptIFRqQJa9N-7paxXJO8oBVOpmLuToQ2n1TsLh050eadOKYTX8MQZ8UeuwzN1DFVNuhZ5t6cfqInvXcpoWQSSq241lEMU3WI1qGO_qL1DrfsJD_9a9fmK6IAzANBew=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)

Tree Herder, as a single stand company is very mobile, and was able to charge into the flank of the knights - generating 13 attack dice - quite  a few as most companies generate 3 or 4 normally. The knights caught fighting to both their flanks did little damage back, but it was enough to kill the Fire Elementals

Meanwhile on the hill the halberdiers spotted their moment and charge the Forest Shamblers. This turned into an attritional battle.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ecgO08CiuUI-vWi6S397dAnFgs4xQjDaWbFA2jFdjWe5QeqeRD6kXbDVOL8Bu35ZAoFUDatOqDskeaMjUETJLa87nB9oJ2NF2xxQDc1wtQb89g15ATNZLlYTH-dzMlhm2nxWB25X1PWWdjCI1fdm7RTw=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)

Big hole in the middle
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fUHgcib1w-LJHbsev2ydFIr18GwdXw5suhUA0BMjhVWAchqqBXZoyz32rTNdnNmJWNAuZWt2u4ZIXdPdaNs7UXTklKi7i6g7Ja8jxzzurSsoJzrLMw_vTz533ZYkM21cFgPMm5uH9eGA4E0pKcSSkx-Q=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)
Tree Herder left surveying the battlefield - where to go next!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3flNP7AwMxG6JMSSBi4Zlp6KB3IduZ4U9eOjDAp0c_A1NzR69iGbVBRO3Xd4EmWLcSw5FqYwvFNWucxg2FIYidN2Eey7uGmqyzIANJIG5eHTVjTaxAy5jRlcjR2jDmke7a2nKjcflmLcw_iapoUq9-hdg=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)
Flank charge on the cannon!

Meanwhile on the hill the halberdiers and forest shamblers continue to hammer away at each other

The End!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fHr5kpKOWaH77PLqYzy5bwMEF4XlD6HtuA26mIjpJLjreP1dWw6Wf5NtLVSTowfHdKkdmCZpvFV-5oJvEBT-v5f1547xw9BlA5cGmlWZvAqyxQvnSzXE4NQOlvGBTZfAE3oXtbCqrik6rVaOqKij-0Ew=w1124-h843-no?authuser=0)
The cannon battery is trampled by Tree Herder, while the shamblers finish off the halberdiers (with only a few wounds remaining on themselves).

Overall it was an enjoyable game - perhaps helped the the destruction Tree Herder caused!
The Empire forces were unlucky to have not killed the water elementals with shooting - one more shot would have finished them off, and that could have been quite different as then they would have got more shots off particularly at Tree Herder which would have been very dangerous to him as such a big creature, the cannons would have got +2 dice on their shooting.

Thanks to Nic for letting us play the beta rules, and for joining us for the second half of the game (the magic of video conferencing) Where he corrected our misunderstandings and put up with many many suggestions of how we thought things ought to work.

The rules play very differently to classic Irregular Wars, but have a the feel of a bigger battle. The ability to create your own units to build an army is certainly a fun and interesting part of the game - and I certainly have plenty of armies to build force lists for!

Looking forward to seeing how these rules develop.

Next up, Goblins vs Dwarves?



Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 May 2020, 08:54:48 PM
Very cool report
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 May 2020, 07:18:16 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 23 May 2020, 08:54:48 PM
Very cool report

Thanks Will
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 24 May 2020, 07:22:48 AM
Liked it !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 May 2020, 07:46:17 AM
Quote from: fred. on 21 May 2020, 07:09:15 PM
Mantic Salamanders and Naiads

These were painted up earlier in the year - defiantly not 10mm figures!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cCfykDB3Wub8aDQktx6AYMLiiUWkHqmBC11IYt8PytWHsulbEuCnxtVRjqCydc5UtRN-GQiy8zIKCFqmktu77O3RkpGAgUghX3yPNdNgmIDWz00ZipV3uwIJ_RwQ4Au7q9ExRWQ2QFTJd81Dr3SmPqqA=w1684-h1264-no?authuser=0)

All kind of speed painted - which is about all I can be bothered with for whole units of 28mm figures. Salamanders lots of dry brushing, Naiads lots of washes

Whom are they defying? The whole 10mm community here?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 May 2020, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 May 2020, 07:46:17 AM
Whom are they defying? The whole 10mm community here?

Yep

And spell checkers.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 May 2020, 08:25:14 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 May 2020, 09:00:03 AM
Quote from: fred. on 24 May 2020, 08:24:13 AM
Yep

And spell checkers.

Wot is spel chacker
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 May 2020, 09:12:25 AM
Spell chucker - Hogwarts slang - magic wand.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 May 2020, 10:00:12 PM
Basing

A productive afternoon, as the weather was still pretty poor here

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d_zVwtBD1-CWywCWcwbiSocsRDwO1XGWzwjIssDsr-vqIkspy32eMS7mg1rMf7VRvPPQlKUSZ2_W_h4rpg1AJafMdPjD-Al1PJ6PHf7LRVyQrkjaSAPnL6jDNu4QZkzZy0RthhdMYvtc-YErrTNbA_Pw=w2248-h1686-no?authuser=0)

Lots of Dwarves, got the bases finished off and flocked

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fsn10wDiRe-CW4_0B3NQGF5HZM197bKoZ7PDDWVBvqAJxkSEtxog3FjsnUKTFk6Q-RBxplDhvq-SQ9_J9aMQUbUI9l3Sm6Ae8naVQ5tinw863rcU3iU8oQ4t4MaN8oqQ5wzmeYP6j4eNmRrGmwzXCZcw=w2248-h1686-no?authuser=0)

Wingsuits and Irish pike and shot, with some Scots loitering in the background




Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 May 2020, 10:03:39 PM
Wizards and Rogues

For Irregular Wars you need figures to represent various characters, the Warlord and Captains I've got pretty well covered from various command figures already, but also needed at Wizards and Rogues. Most of my Wizards are based on 40mm squares, and I've not need rogues before, so this gave an good excuse for a rummage through the various figures I have stashed away, and I found lots of promising candidates. A few colours later (including quite a bit of GW contrast paints) they are starting to look like what they should! I've based them up, mainly so that I can check for each figure which ones is finished, as on painting sticks it was getting a bit hard to see which were done, and which had bits left to do.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cECziLv6hcISx9RXSo8eT5s0ryXZbcMtRx2IToiXA1PwLdqiwu3bQIQdiwcaNcRNPmrUeNhDuX-o-4CxnKo_uff-sfcgijGlInAFjyiaEYMdDOPpgJ2b4pSvsd-6afFAsPmqxu9jcosuxAnhnblwn8FQ=w2514-h1304-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 May 2020, 11:57:39 PM
Nice choices
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Steve J on 25 May 2020, 06:56:07 AM
Lovely work 8).
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 25 May 2020, 07:14:57 AM
Cracking, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 25 May 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Thanks chaps  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 25 May 2020, 09:07:52 PM
Put some of the recently painted and based things away today. So took the opportunity to take photos the Dwarves and Irish armies - both of which are now at a decent size!

Dwarves

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3egYB4CP-GC4zf45fR100_t1qq6Hkp5ilyb6KZ20TBvHGX1u3nTBV0lNB9Xdjf2YQKVzhlcPDMwEZ7N8FNxu5gr5_I7B9FKxEIyJ8JpJQ6KFlPm4USLPRNUmgiDb3IDHSBjXU7KCGXf5MKZ7gcwbBkPJw=w2514-h1604-no?authuser=0)
Lots and lots of Dwarves, to the left Copplestone, then GW Handgunners, BoFA plastic dwarves (who are a bit small compared to the others), GW artillery, rangers and more handgunners. Along the back lots of commanders. The other painted figures in this army are 3 Pendraken gyrocopters, which need rebasing to 40mm squares. Unpainted, there isn't a lot, some more handgunners (which are part painted) a couple of units of rangers, a couple more cannon, and 3 more gyrocopters. I'm keeping a fairly simple traditional core dwarven army, with no berserkers or cavalry. 


Irish
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f4zN4jk4naNLAWs3HPqXvxFyF9nVVeVh2u08LO3Lc_5Ih1C5x356TAa5XAQV20_RASKwiW9skqgLhuDho6lZER0r8veTtMjM1w07KYKpMlAOlf--w6BZbw551VzwZymMc13Nb9igkNgpIK2rWfaKa-gw=w2514-h1530-no?authuser=0)
This army has been built steadily for Irregular Wars, as opposition to Tudor English (or other Irish, or Scots, or who ever is passing...). The figures are virtually all Pendraken. The force so far consists of
10 Kerns
5 Gallowglass
2 Bonnachts
2 Redshanks
4 Shot
2 Pike
2 Dogs
1 Priest
5 Cavalry
and only 1 commander

A few more command figures will be an easy addition and allow some different uses. The main units I want to add a few more of are Bonnachts and a few more shot to be used as Kern Marksmen. Several of the units are used in other lists, which is why there are quite so many Kerns and Gallowglass.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 May 2020, 09:32:21 PM
Nicely done
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 26 May 2020, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: fred. on 25 May 2020, 09:07:52 PM
Put some of the recently painted and based things away today. So took the opportunity to take photos the Dwarves and Irish armies - both of which are now at a decent size!

Very impressive; how do you do the basing?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 26 May 2020, 07:40:31 AM
Wottalotta soldiers !  :-bd =D> :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2020, 01:34:22 PM
Cheers guys!

Quote from: hammurabi70 on 26 May 2020, 12:39:10 AM
how do you do the basing?

Basing is basic sand, brown paint and flock! In a bit more detail:


* Mix PVA and brown paint in approx equal amounts, add a small amount of water to thin
* Brush a generous layer of this over MDF base, add a small amount of the glue/paint mix to the figure base, and any large flat areas of the base
* Put all figures in position on base
* Add any rocks or grit for stony areas
* Sprinkle sand over the base and figures
* Leave to dry for 10-15mins, carefully tip off excess sand (this can be omitted if the figures need more time to set)
* Leave to dry overnight
* Tap off any loose sand


* Use a dilute medium-brown paint to cover any remaining sand - this is very quick as the brown paint in the PVA does most of this for you, this is just getting those few grains that remain..
* Dry brush with sandy shade
* Add any tuffs or extras
* Put diluted PVA in blobs where you want flock to go
* Sprinkle flock on - I use a mix of various shades of flock, not just a single colour
* Tip off excess flock after 10-15 mins

I have to say that adding the brown paint to to the glue is a key step, as this effectively paints the sand for you, if you don't do this then painting the dried sand is really hard work.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 26 May 2020, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: fred. on 26 May 2020, 01:34:22 PM
Cheers guys!

Basing is basic sand, brown paint and flock! In a bit more detail:


* Mix PVA and brown paint in approx equal amounts, add a small amount of water to thin
* Brush a generous layer of this over MDF base, add a small amount of the glue/paint mix to the figure base, and any large flat areas of the base
* Put all figures in position on base
* Add any rocks or grit for stony areas
* Sprinkle sand over the base and figures
* Leave to dry for 10-15mins, carefully tip off excess sand (this can be omitted if the figures need more time to set)
* Leave to dry overnight
* Tap off any loose sand


* Use a dilute medium-brown paint to cover any remaining sand - this is very quick as the brown paint in the PVA does most of this for you, this is just getting those few grains that remain..
* Dry brush with sandy shade
* Add any tuffs or extras
* Put diluted PVA in blobs where you want flock to go
* Sprinkle flock on - I use a mix of various shades of flock, not just a single colour
* Tip off excess flock after 10-15 mins

I have to say that adding the brown paint to to the glue is a key step, as this effectively paints the sand for you, if you don't do this then painting the dried sand is really hard work.

Thanks!  That's great, really helpful.  :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 26 May 2020, 02:41:36 PM
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 26 May 2020, 02:07:10 PM
Thanks!  That's great, really helpful.  :-bd :-bd :-bd :-bd

I've tried out freds method of basing a few times myself now and it does work pretty well. I have sometimes "shortcut" it a little bit and rather than sand/drybrush/flock I usually apply a mix of light and dark brown flock onto the wet paint/pva mix then sprinkle in sand to fill the gaps. Then once that's dried and shaken off, add watered down pva to strengthen and sprinkle over whatever grasses I intend to use.

That's generally been for more "lush" basing though, for rougher, patchier terrain the dry brushed sand and grit over the paint does look very nice.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 26 May 2020, 07:01:19 PM
Glad its helpful hammurabi - and happy to hear that an adaptation is working for you mmcv

By varying the flock and tufts added at the end you can vary up the results quite a lot. This has been my go to basing for some time now.

For a while I was using wood filler - not least as it was brown coloured. But now keep this for when I want to model muddy bases, as its quite messy stuff to work with.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 26 May 2020, 07:11:09 PM
Quote from: fred. on 26 May 2020, 07:01:19 PM
Glad its helpful hammurabi - and happy to hear that an adaptation is working for you mmcv

By varying the flock and tufts added at the end you can vary up the results quite a lot. This has been my go to basing for some time now.

For a while I was using wood filler - not least as it was brown coloured. But now keep this for when I want to model muddy bases, as its quite messy stuff to work with.

My only issue is if I'm a little cavalier with the mix and use too much paint to glue. Holds the flock okay but not the figures! Easy remedy though.

I've used modeling paste to similar effect on more sculpted bases, e.g. casualty tokens and single based figures. Gives a nice undulating texture and can sprinkle sand over it wet then paint/dry brush when set.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 27 May 2020, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: fred. on 26 May 2020, 07:01:19 PM
Glad its helpful hammurabi - and happy to hear that an adaptation is working for you mmcv

By varying the flock and tufts added at the end you can vary up the results quite a lot. This has been my go to basing for some time now.

For a while I was using wood filler - not least as it was brown coloured. But now keep this for when I want to model muddy bases, as its quite messy stuff to work with.

My previous methods:

1 Paint base brown
2 Add glue to base, add grit
3 Add glue to base, add scatter grass

I found the grit, although fine for 15mm, was too big for 6mm, so had to think again.

1 Add ARTEX to base
2 Paint base with preferred colour.

The presence of asbestos eliminates this one.

Hence my search for something appropriate for 10mm. [Wood filler is a near idea].
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 27 May 2020, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 26 May 2020, 07:11:09 PM
I've used modeling paste to similar effect on more sculpted bases, e.g. casualty tokens and single based figures. Gives a nice undulating texture and can sprinkle sand over it wet then paint/dry brush when set.

Have to say....That all that time ago, when I used to have time to paint figures....I used the same method with sand......If I ever get the chance to paint again (HAH !  ;))....I'll be going back to that.

Though I've not got any of my favourite colour greens anymore......Jars of 'Plaka' paint. I loved those for drybrushing.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 28 May 2020, 10:39:02 PM
60mm bases. 4 packets of 60mm circular bases

Just found these in my bag of bases. I'm now trying to remember why I bought these - and why I need about 40 of them...    :-/    8-}

Answers on a postcard.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 May 2020, 11:23:32 PM
Tiddlywinks?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 28 May 2020, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 May 2020, 11:23:32 PM
Tiddlywinks?

No. But I'm now tempted to try it. I'll see how bored the girls are tomorrow
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 29 May 2020, 07:06:48 AM
Wooden scale armour?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 May 2020, 09:54:14 AM
Interesting thought...


Fortunately posting about this has made some deep synapses of memory fire. I got them to use as sabot bases / movement trays for epic. So to finish them as a project all I need to do is add sand then flock (as per the recipe given a few posts above).  Can't believe I had just put them in a bag, in a drawer and forgotten about them.

I do feel that when I place an order, I ought to write down next to things, what I intend to do with them.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 29 May 2020, 07:37:01 PM
Quote from: fred. on 29 May 2020, 09:54:14 AM

Fortunately posting about this has made some deep synapses of memory fire. I got them to use as sabot bases / movement trays for epic. So to finish them as a project all I need to do is add sand then flock (as per the recipe given a few posts above).  Can't believe I had just put them in a bag, in a drawer and forgotten about them.

How do you use a 60mm circular as a sabot? I can understand using a large square one to provide one for a lot of small square or circular ones but what is the plan with these? Hardly worth it to get two 30mm bases on, can you get three?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 30 May 2020, 09:39:07 PM
It's more of a movement tray than a sabot

This is the idea - with the epic figures being so light friction holds them in place well enough and you can get 3 or 4 of the infantry stands on them.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cBBlN_ItNTqacFtnCSJVfTtyMHhXaFKG2YiFeefmUoW4BPv_PHBXehdpzPS6iKwkw_ZbsGpYOdz_ISe5SxFtbR1sRO4TIHYuKtIdBcknFufTOM1DIUSqVtUEVfjPz26nQMgsW6yGjFEVzLx0Y3y8n6G01BBEa8I2mKiyd4gareKMKGEQZrIJP0GHwYVJHA2VnTV1bKai8t-bvbf91dohZWLeEzVUs-QvzKgGLOsGjUsjt_518JLMo0c_WtXPwyEas87FR6nSfTYOBa8NQ45SLk7atJ8XzwnsoKtxTMJZRGEJIvi3ylmdskVBiW7iyH6_iNOe9p5zRoDh4ykuEXBOlXRw-5o0MUCfxm4GEls18ykNIPRX-P6OUkUT10hOUxox17VtfZyIqJV7ZQ7VQCw_Lx-4DcOWROBkGA6dKY2TBnFR7mW9DVWyzrrf75S_4fLUR9cTW7RbKQUgRl6aYatzuErt9cCxej9as0GI9jAgeBsooNRb7YniLPq1v0KO92TPhyGLCCxhuEJj6lMYi9OaDfhCXYZfhdcEt5R_nQKzRJw8x4EhqYJhKcIEKFyZrodLfv9h3-nPo9btRWJpSxOtmKCMoVfh-PxKqeJZfyotRDdpfIiOje0sIgejNEC38NX7mA_jydUFnn2711HLjbjstOJixhna6NhiZ9WYiUUdCa8Bn-43wfZg8tO3Fd4PKg=w828-h622-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2020, 12:21:16 AM
Quote from: fred. on 30 May 2020, 09:39:07 PM
It's more of a movement tray than a sabot

This is the idea - with the epic figures being so light friction holds them in place well enough and you can get 3 or 4 of the infantry stands on them.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cBBlN_ItNTqacFtnCSJVfTtyMHhXaFKG2YiFeefmUoW4BPv_PHBXehdpzPS6iKwkw_ZbsGpYOdz_ISe5SxFtbR1sRO4TIHYuKtIdBcknFufTOM1DIUSqVtUEVfjPz26nQMgsW6yGjFEVzLx0Y3y8n6G01BBEa8I2mKiyd4gareKMKGEQZrIJP0GHwYVJHA2VnTV1bKai8t-bvbf91dohZWLeEzVUs-QvzKgGLOsGjUsjt_518JLMo0c_WtXPwyEas87FR6nSfTYOBa8NQ45SLk7atJ8XzwnsoKtxTMJZRGEJIvi3ylmdskVBiW7iyH6_iNOe9p5zRoDh4ykuEXBOlXRw-5o0MUCfxm4GEls18ykNIPRX-P6OUkUT10hOUxox17VtfZyIqJV7ZQ7VQCw_Lx-4DcOWROBkGA6dKY2TBnFR7mW9DVWyzrrf75S_4fLUR9cTW7RbKQUgRl6aYatzuErt9cCxej9as0GI9jAgeBsooNRb7YniLPq1v0KO92TPhyGLCCxhuEJj6lMYi9OaDfhCXYZfhdcEt5R_nQKzRJw8x4EhqYJhKcIEKFyZrodLfv9h3-nPo9btRWJpSxOtmKCMoVfh-PxKqeJZfyotRDdpfIiOje0sIgejNEC38NX7mA_jydUFnn2711HLjbjstOJixhna6NhiZ9WYiUUdCa8Bn-43wfZg8tO3Fd4PKg=w828-h622-no?authuser=0)

Unfortunately Google User Content has cut you off at the knees and all I see is a humongous minus sign  :(
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 June 2020, 12:56:20 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2020, 12:21:16 AM
Unfortunately Google User Content has cut you off at the knees and all I see is a humongous minus sign  :(

I don't even see that!

I'm guessing it's a link to a link to the image and not to the image itself?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 08:19:25 AM
Lets try this again, then. The first image was copied from my phone, so I wonder if it picked up a restricted URL (as the image still shows for me)


It's more of a movement tray than a sabot

This is the idea - with the epic figures being so light friction holds them in place well enough and you can get 3 or 4 of the infantry stands on them.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dMYlS1l24ALqWUfWsLlHFSYgl8YaJ59upwDQUZd_hGp12Qd8VXaRgOwX4wYcuWPdtYks1gr7sNGvu5MEBsn3EOA5F9aDBPVGUDO2DAArI9dnNPjFPPasBjl2ehM2v_79zGCYsYN1_yKjIFj-c_2BE20w=w2252-h1686-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 June 2020, 08:51:32 AM
That one is showing Fred - nice idea !
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 09:52:50 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 01 June 2020, 12:21:16 AM
Unfortunately Google User Content has cut you off at the knees and all I see is a humongous minus sign  :(

I've had this happen quite a lot when trying to direct link Google Photos, permissions can be a bit janky on it and will appear sometimes and not others. I posted a guide in the technical board on how to make it work, but to be honest it's such a faff I just stuck the Imgur app on my phone and upload the photos to there instead for linking.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 10:01:15 AM
Good to know it's working now.

If I get the link on my iMac from the google photos website it's fine.

I thought I had done similar on my phone.  But with different results and clearly different URLs when Iook at the two.

I might have a look at imugur as I would quite like a solution that just works on my phone.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 June 2020, 12:15:04 PM
I use Imgur too
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 07:20:48 PM
I've just looked at Imgur and am confused. It seems to be a social media image platform.

I just want some image folders I can drop photos in and get a link for them.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: fred. on 01 June 2020, 07:20:48 PM
I've just looked at Imgur and am confused. It seems to be a social media image platform.

I just want some image folders I can drop photos in and get a link for them.

It is but you can use it as an image storage too. You just add a bunch of images from your phone and choose "hidden" rather than public when posting. Then you get a gallery you can copy the URLs from.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 June 2020, 07:49:30 PM
I use Image Shack. Opted for a paid account to host a project I had planned .... and have now abandoned ... DOH! :)

https://imageshack.us/
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 08:06:39 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 07:29:17 PM
It is but you can use it as an image storage too. You just add a bunch of images from your phone and choose "hidden" rather than public when posting. Then you get a gallery you can copy the URLs from.

Ta. I'll give it a download
Quote from: Ithoriel on 01 June 2020, 07:49:30 PM
I use Image Shack. Opted for a paid account to host a project I had planned .... and have now abandoned ... DOH! :)

https://imageshack.us/

Does it have an app? I'm specifically after something that is one stop to forum on my phone. Google photos is fine on a computer but not on a phone.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 June 2020, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: fred. on 01 June 2020, 08:06:39 PM
Ta. I'll give it a download
Does it have an app? I'm specifically after something that is one stop to forum on my phone. Google photos is fine on a computer but not on a phone.

Apps are listed here

https://imageshack.us/applications

Personally, I'm the reverse, I'm only interested in things that work from my PC, so I've no idea what the apps are like to use..
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 09:32:25 PM
Let's try this then. End of Friday's game

(https://i.imgur.com/vkeuFTE.jpg)

Second go - need to click on the image rather than share
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 01 June 2020, 10:27:29 PM
Looking good  :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 June 2020, 10:49:35 PM
Looks fun.  8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 June 2020, 11:01:46 PM
That works then

Here's earlier in the game when I had rather more troops!

(https://i.imgur.com/cNoelp7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 02 June 2020, 12:52:54 AM
Quote from: fred. on 01 June 2020, 09:32:25 PM
Let's try this then. End of Friday's game

So are the dice casualty markers or remaining strength ... or something else?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 June 2020, 06:24:15 AM
The dice are wounds taken.

The dwarves in the middle of the picture have just killed the brigade of Trolls in front of them. But are themselves on 19 wounds, out of 20. And have a horde of goblins on their flank.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 June 2020, 10:40:30 PM
Italian Armour

Ordered these at the start of lockdown and got them painted pretty quickly. But realised I hadn't posted a photo of them.

(https://i.imgur.com/HfUZG9N.jpg)

These are some reinforcements to add to the Semoventes and Infantry I already have.
Loitering at the back are a few AT guns for the British

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 June 2020, 11:31:07 PM
Cool work there!  8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 02 June 2020, 11:49:52 PM
Quote from: fred. on 02 June 2020, 10:40:30 PM
Italian Armour
These are some reinforcements to add to the Semoventes and Infantry I already have.
Loitering at the back are a few AT guns for the British

Impressive; gotta ask about how the basing was done!   =D> @-)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 03 June 2020, 07:35:58 AM
Damn fine work, Forbes !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 03 June 2020, 08:26:10 AM
Thanks chaps

They were very simple paint jobs sprayed desert yellow, then tracks and MGs in dark grey, a wash on radiator grills, then a pale sand dry brush.

Basing is even simpler, sand. Plain sand. The Italians have a few tiny bits of clump fiolage added to look a bit like the tiny bushes you see in many of the early desert war photos.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 07 June 2020, 03:58:08 PM
Ogres

Been painting these figures up over the last few days. They are pretty quick to paint mainly using thinner paints, a bit more than a wash, but not much more.

Got them based just now - so lots of sand as they are still drying.

(https://i.imgur.com/1XeMSU3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 07 June 2020, 05:00:26 PM
VERY spiffy !

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 June 2020, 05:02:27 PM
Superb
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 June 2020, 05:04:05 PM
Lovely figures, beautifully painted!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 07 June 2020, 05:05:20 PM
Thanks chaps!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 07 June 2020, 08:44:17 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 07 June 2020, 09:40:38 PM
Excellent
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Orcs on 07 June 2020, 11:13:10 PM
Nice, Like the Deacon, slightly later than My desert war stuff. I am still trying to work out how to use Portees in BKC without them getting completely stuffed.  Like lots of anti tank stuff they need some sort of "shoot and scoot" ability
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 07:59:55 AM
Thanks all

My desert war stuff started out early, then has just had bits added to it to keep moving it later and later. We've played a variety of WWII rules over lockdown, and in most of them tanks are just too good, they don't suffer any of their real world problems. I wonder if just giving tanks a -2 to hit against anything but another tank would be a good starting point. To represent the difficulty of spotting small stuff, and target priority.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 09:54:19 PM
Ogres

Got the basing finished on these tonight. So a few photos

(https://i.imgur.com/LiJtSbP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/50kY675.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9fCYNMx.jpg)


Really pleased with these. And getting very near the end of this army. Only another 8 packs to paint, which pleased me a lot when I initialled counted them. But then I realised that this lot is only around 5 packs (and the junk lobbers were done a little while ago).
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 08 June 2020, 09:56:10 PM
Love the mammoths  :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 June 2020, 10:20:37 PM
Love the goblins!

Top work all round.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 08 June 2020, 11:06:49 PM
Thanks both

I've now realised how bad the depth of field is on these photos - something to see if I can do anything with.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 09 June 2020, 07:30:19 AM
Cracking, Forbes !  :-bd

You use the camera on your phone, don't you ? :-\

I've always thought that the definition you got with that, was SO good, that you could take the pic from further away....and simply 'blow up' the image on the computer/phone/tablet/whatever.
You get far better definition than I can manage on my so called 'good' camera.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 09 June 2020, 08:16:50 AM
Thanks Phil

Yes, these are shot on an iPhone XR, I do have a proper DSLR but it is far too much trouble to use for these quick end of the evening snaps. One thing I have started doing is using a portable video camera light to give plenty of light to the photos.

Good suggestion about going a bit further back, and cropping in. And in fact one I have given to others previously, but then totally forget to use myself! I'm not sure how many pixels the phone shoots at, but its several times more than are used in a photo here that is less than 1000 px wide.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 11 June 2020, 07:46:47 PM
I thought I would share a picture of my newish (pre-lockdown newish) set of shelves, that I use to store various in progress things.

This started off quite well with just WIP stuff, but now seems to have turned into just another storage area...

(https://i.imgur.com/6Tiac0m.jpg)

On the top shelf are the recently painted Ogres and Wingmen. These are finished they just need some magnetic sheet adding to their bases.

Second shelf - 3 strips of Kerns, 3 strips of Croat musketeers, a couple of LoA commanders, 2 dwarven cannon, and 3 sea creatures. All of these are at least actually WIP. But have been sat around a while.

Third shelf - Italian armour and infantry which are finished other than magnetic sheet. 3 strips of desert infantry.

Bottom shelf - all sorts, 28mm WoTR, epic, 10mm walls, gas lands dice. These have all been sat here for months.

I've also got a lid from a RUB to the side with various other bits on it. 4 strips o dwarves, 3 gyrocopters, all the command figures seen above, the 60mm round bases and another dwarven cannon

I'm not sure why I am so much better at starting projects than finishing them
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 11 June 2020, 10:48:19 PM
Looking good Fred.

QuoteI'm not sure why I am so much better at starting projects than finishing them

I was under the impression that there was no such thing as a finished project anyway...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 12 June 2020, 06:12:47 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 11 June 2020, 10:48:19 PM.

I was under the impression that there was no such thing as a finished project anyway...

Fair point. In this context I was using project to only refer to each if the small sets of figures, rather than the whole army. Task or Group might have been a better term to use than Project.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 12 June 2020, 07:10:49 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 11 June 2020, 10:48:19 PM
I was under the impression that there was no such thing as a finished project anyway...

There is! I've finished my NE Europe 1944 project at least three times now.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 12 June 2020, 08:08:13 AM
Quote from: fsn on 12 June 2020, 07:10:49 AM
There is! I've finished my NE Europe 1944 project at least three times now.

;D

Quote from: fred. on 12 June 2020, 06:12:47 AM
Fair point. In this context I was using project to only refer to each if the small sets of figures, rather than the whole army. Task or Group might have been a better term to use than Project.

Yeah fair enough. No doubt you'll get to them eventually when the mood takes you  :D
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 June 2020, 09:46:42 AM
Good display Fred
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2020, 11:38:17 AM
Pendraken Parcel

Lots of MDF and shinies!!   8)  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/s0vvU2S.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 June 2020, 11:46:46 AM
Excellent
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 13 June 2020, 12:01:02 PM
Nice haul
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: DaveH on 13 June 2020, 12:53:01 PM
Nice collection to add to the lead pile.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 13 June 2020, 04:51:26 PM
That's something of a mix - a Comet, Nap British Rifles, Senegalese, Italian Command Truck ...  what's the project?  ;)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2020, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: DaveH on 13 June 2020, 12:53:01 PM
Nice collection to add to the lead pile.

A good few additions (see below) but mainly MDF, to add to the MDF drawer.

Quote from: fsn on 13 June 2020, 04:51:26 PM
That's something of a mix - a Comet, Nap British Rifles, Senegalese, Italian Command Truck ...  what's the project?  ;)
Umm, Dr Who??

Good spotting. You missed the Nap French though. The main project is the start of some Naps skirmish, al la Sharpe. The Senegalese and Italian bits are to round out projects that are in-flight. The Comets are to prove that a NWE project is never finished.

The Comets do look really nice models!

I've got most of the Naps (and WWI French) undercoated this afternoon, and also built the movement trays for FKaP, and stuck the large 75mm bases on a couple of giants for KoW.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2020, 10:16:32 PM
95th Rifles

Made a good start on these chaps this evening- got most of the base colours on. Dark Green and Black perhaps not the clearest colours in 10mm, so will have a look at highlights tomorrow. I really like the figures, very detailed, it has taken quite a bit of searching to work out what all the accoutrements are.

(https://i.imgur.com/SCc6eH2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 13 June 2020, 10:23:08 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

A good evenings work :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 14 June 2020, 07:57:00 AM
Looking damn fine already ! :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2020, 09:38:13 AM
Bang on already, nicely done Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 June 2020, 10:38:10 AM
Thanks chaps done a bit more tidying up on them earlier this morning. Next bit is highlights - then working out anything that has been missed, they do have a lot of fiddly bits of kit!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 June 2020, 09:00:01 PM
95th Rifles

Got this lot pretty much done today. Which is pleasing as they only arrived late yesterday morning!  Basing needs finishing and they need a coat of matt varnish, but otherwise done.  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/noo5Lqq.jpg)

In Rebels and Patriots these would count as Skirmishers and be in 6 man units. With the rifle upgrade they are 6pts a unit, and if veteran then 8pts. So only 4 or 3 units in a standard 24pt force. So that's the British done!  And with a few super numanaries at the back left.

This is an attempt at taking a picture further away and cropping. It didn't look great on a small screen but will be interesting to see what it looks like on a post.

(https://i.imgur.com/n1S5rzw.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 June 2020, 09:04:01 PM
Nice! .... and impressed by the speed of painting(!).   :-bd

I've only just completed my first 12 figure British AWI infantry unit* for Rebels & Patriots yesterday. Took me a lot longer ...

* Pendraken, of course.  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2020, 09:15:45 PM
Very impressive work.
72 finished since yesterday (73 if you count a house, 74 if you count taking the kitchen apart).
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 14 June 2020, 09:16:50 PM
Looking good Fred
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 14 June 2020, 09:47:46 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 June 2020, 10:15:35 PM
Thanks chaps, glad you like them.

Quote from: Westmarcher on 14 June 2020, 09:04:01 PM

I've only just completed my first 12 figure British AWI infantry unit* for Rebels & Patriots yesterday. Took me a lot longer ...

Good stuff. I think the French will be taking me a fair bit longer. Dark Green with Black equipment allows a lot of room for error. Having made a bit of a start on the French (blue coats, black shakos) its already proving quite hard to work out which bits should be blue, and which are white. Then there is the need to work out what all the different bits of kit are, and what colour each of them is. Oh and then plumes and epaulets...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 June 2020, 06:15:18 AM
Fred - cheat and use French fugures in great coats
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 15 June 2020, 06:47:21 AM
Excellent !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: sunjester on 15 June 2020, 10:51:48 AM
Super job, sir!  =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 15 June 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Thanks chaps, these have been a very satisfying little unit to paint (well 4 units in R&P terms, isn't skirmish great!)

Quote from: ianrs54 on 15 June 2020, 06:15:18 AM
cheat and use French fugures in great coats

Too late Ian, as I already have the figures in normal attire, and I'm not sure great coats really say 'Sunny Spain' to me.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 June 2020, 12:36:33 PM
Appaerently they did wear them, no idea why
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 15 June 2020, 10:24:39 PM
Tidied up the bases of the 95th Rifles (as a note to myself, dry brushed in Sienna then sand), not quite sure what to go with regarding flock or tufts on these, thinking not too green, but not entirely sure?

French Dragoons

Made a start on these chaps tonight. I discovered that French dragoons wore green jackets, when I was researching the colours for their kit. Unfortunately I had already painted their jackets blue  :'( A quick covering of white, then they were swapped into green. I'm enjoying painting these, but I am very glad I am doing small skirmish forces, not an army!!

(https://i.imgur.com/WmbKfeo.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 June 2020, 11:53:30 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 June 2020, 03:28:04 AM
I wish I could do my dry-brushing in Sienna!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 16 June 2020, 06:58:25 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

Looking forward to seeing the finished forces
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 16 June 2020, 07:35:57 AM
Absolutely !  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 16 June 2020, 09:10:40 PM
Had a play with basing for the Dragoons, I'm liking the look of the 3,2,1 basing* even more.

(https://i.imgur.com/VmdsFiB.jpg)

One advantage of working from home Is that I was able to do the above during a rather long call early this afternoon. But as I only managed 10mins for lunch, it hardly feels like slacking!



* obscure cultural reference - should it be known as Ted Rodgers basing?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 16 June 2020, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: fred. on 16 June 2020, 09:10:40 PM
* obscure cultural reference - should it be known as Ted Rodgers basing?

Yes. I think so.  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 16 June 2020, 10:25:21 PM
At least someone got it  ;)

French Infantry

Just did a bit of painting this evening, but I'm glad I did. Started on the various accoutrements of the French infantry. Did a fair bit of googling the other day to find pictures to determine the colours of each bit, as they certainly carry a lot, and some of the colours were surprising.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xpjr9H3.jpg)

Does anyone know what the item is on the back left hand side of these chaps, the item still white? I suppose I really want to know what colour to paint it.

The firing troops have a small pouch in a similar place - again any ideas on colours?

And finally the sergeants seem to have a gourd or bottle any thoughts on colours for that?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 17 June 2020, 07:04:44 AM
Is the back left item the a sabre/bayonet frog? In which case it's white.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/3a/a1/133aa1551235870a8015956777fc79f8.jpg)

The gourd I think would be yellow/tan
(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/leather-cartridge-pouch-and-water-bottle-made-from-a-dried-gourd-picture-id587773669)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 08:31:05 AM
Ta, the gourd is spot on for what the Sergeant has.

I'm not sure that it is the bayonet frog - the bayonet is further round at the side of the figure. It's also only on this 1 pose, of the 3 I have. I looks quite like a WWII british water bottle.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 June 2020, 09:25:05 AM
Paint it black or metallic, no one will notice. ;)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 17 June 2020, 09:25:05 AM
Paint it black or metallic, no one will notice. ;)

Black was my default - on a dark blue coat they become pretty much invisible.

Considering the number of drawings and photos around it's a little surprising that these things aren't known
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fsn on 17 June 2020, 12:39:39 PM
The only other thing I thought it could be would be a bread bag?

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ab/a6/14/aba61475a09112aeee71c9301abb3413--french-army-napoleonic-wars.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 01:31:18 PM
I don't think its a bread bag - looks too small.

But that drawing has what looks like a water bottle below, the bread bag, and it could be that. The problem with all of this, is that it is a very small piece of sculpting, and I can see it more clearly in the photos than directly...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 03:39:40 PM
Spotted this picture

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/75/3d/a4/753da4737a49863640a64cac34100326.jpg)

which looks like what is sculpted on - so a brown water bottle - I could have stuck with my British WWII water bottle, then..
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 05:13:57 PM
I'm thinking I might use this drawing as the basis for my figures, now I look at it further

Plume - yellow with green top
Epaulets - yellow
Colours - yellow

Cuffs - red, with white vertical button strip
Turnbacks - white

Which is good, as I haven't painted any of that wrong yet (except perhaps the collar, which might well be in the too small to bother with camp...)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 June 2020, 05:28:52 PM
That plume is for one of the specialist companies Fred, Light I think, with the Grenadiers having red and line white (I think anyway). If I remember I'll look it up in von Pifka. It does show how little blue was visible. Another cheat, shakos were often covered with a black brown or sand coloured cover, plumes removed. Thats how my 15mm line were painted .
Look OK honest (And NO PHIL NO PHOTYS)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 17 June 2020, 06:34:19 PM
Yep, I'm painting these as Voltigieurs so I'm pretty sure yellow plume is correct.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 18 June 2020, 06:10:21 AM
Think your ok there
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 20 June 2020, 11:25:39 AM
Hordes of War - Ogres vs Herd

Another game over video link, back to our home brew rules, and another great game, very close until the end, when my Ogres roughed it out to force the Herd to flee

Forgot to take photos until rather late in the game - so much carnage has already ensured so there are a lot of gaps on the battlefield. For ease of identification my Ogres have snowy bases and blue wound dice.

(https://i.imgur.com/EYYMYxA.jpg)

The very end, Ogres dominant

(https://i.imgur.com/8n64n33.jpg)

The red ogres on the left have charge down hill to destroy the already wounded two units of beastmen who are just on the edge of shot. Leaving just a couple of commanders on that flank.

In the middle the Ogre Guard beat of a flank charge by some eagles, a frontal charge be some Headusmen and then charged in to kill off the minotaurs, that had been embroiled in a long slugging match with my War Trolls.

At the back left the Beastmen archers manoeuvred ineffectually, much as they had done for the whole game! These and the Shamen with the bull's head totem where the only Herd forces left at this point. Facing off against several Ogre combat units. 
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 June 2020, 08:00:51 PM
Looks ace
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 20 June 2020, 09:01:06 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 June 2020, 08:00:51 PM
Looks ace

Thanks Will, it was a good game.


Peninsular French

Finally got these guys finished (well I'd done so many different colours on different bits of kit, I decided there couldn't be any more to do...)

(https://i.imgur.com/F2HMmo7.jpg)

Still need to decide how to flock the bases to represent Spain. Suggestions appreciated.

Edit: that's not the best picture is it? Rather over lit.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 21 June 2020, 07:58:29 AM
Coo.....Rather zippy, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 June 2020, 10:32:49 AM
Fab Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 21 June 2020, 04:56:53 PM
Thanks chaps, took some photos in real light this afternoon (this was at the summer point of the day, we really do seem to have had 4 seasons in one day today).

Peninsular War British & French

All the troops - this is 2 playable 24pt forces for Rebels and Patriots - the British do look very outnumbered, will their superior shooting be enough?

Both forces
(https://i.imgur.com/3rYuljl.jpg)

British Rifles
(https://i.imgur.com/m5rr1PH.jpg)

French Voltiguers 3 x 12 man units
(https://i.imgur.com/fUYis4e.jpg)

They still need a flag
(https://i.imgur.com/Ec2AHBE.jpg)

French Dragoons
(https://i.imgur.com/963sLJc.jpg)

This has been a great little project, my first Naps, two playable forces, lots of learning about uniforms and enjoyable to paint (at least in these small numbers!)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 21 June 2020, 05:50:48 PM
Damn fine job, Forbes ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 June 2020, 07:36:12 PM
Love them Forbes, really look great.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 21 June 2020, 08:08:41 PM
Thanks chaps.

I'm pleased how these have come out, and glad I bothered to take some better photos of them!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 21 June 2020, 08:18:00 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Definitely deserved the better photos and the foliage works really well :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Noktu on 22 June 2020, 01:49:00 AM
Think you nailed the bases here Fred!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 22 June 2020, 08:18:22 AM
Thanks both.

I had a mooch online at some images of other Pennisular units, then had a rummage in my stash of clumps and flocks and came up with this, so I'm glad you think it works.

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 22 June 2020, 08:47:10 AM
Those look really well Fred  :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 June 2020, 12:51:52 PM
Woo hoo! Pendraken Parcel - and it was very heavy this time.

(https://i.imgur.com/8AHLnio.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 24 June 2020, 03:18:03 PM
Look forward to seeing those 'getting done'. :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 June 2020, 04:51:58 PM
So am I.

There are rather a lot though!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 June 2020, 04:52:15 PM
Full samurai?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 June 2020, 06:20:03 PM
Pretty much.

I think there are a couple of individual WWII codes in there from the new releases. But the rest of the box is full of Samurai goodness.

They have been airing all afternoon as I have been working. Will get a chance to dig through in a bit.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 June 2020, 06:24:37 PM
Damnit Fred, it's hard enough as it is resisting the Samurai...  ;D
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Adamwest on 25 June 2020, 06:57:09 AM
I think its in the interest of my bank balance and relationship if i ignore this thread !
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 June 2020, 07:18:54 AM
Samurai are only part of Sengoku armies, and far from the biggest. We don't call post 1960s forces "Centurion armies", do we?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 25 June 2020, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 24 June 2020, 06:24:37 PM
Damnit Fred, it's hard enough as it is resisting the Samurai...  ;D

Resistance is futile. It's much easier to accept you are going to acquire new figures.

Quote from: Adamwest on 25 June 2020, 06:57:09 AM
I think its in the interest of my bank balance and relationship if i ignore this thread !

You may well be right (see above!)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 27 June 2020, 07:01:21 PM
Magnetic Basing

As I had managed to re-find my roll of magnetic basing sheet, I cut out lots and lots of squares and stuck them on the bottoms if the bases of various figures are have done recently (well relatively recently)

(https://i.imgur.com/MT9R8gY.jpg)

Bonus points if you can tell what I had on in the background!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 June 2020, 07:44:21 PM
Looks like Blur at Glastonbury?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 27 June 2020, 07:55:48 PM
You have been busy ;)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 27 June 2020, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 27 June 2020, 07:44:21 PM
Looks like Blur at Glastonbury?

10pts to ML!

Quote from: paulr on 27 June 2020, 07:55:48 PM
You have been busy ;)

Indeed. This feels like the embodiment of too many projects!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 27 June 2020, 08:08:41 PM
Quite the horde!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 June 2020, 08:36:34 PM
Only coz I watched it last night too...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 27 June 2020, 09:30:36 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 27 June 2020, 08:36:34 PM
Only coz I watched it last night too...

Hah hah, I did think you must have the best memory ever for a 15 year old gig!!

Quote from: mmcv on 27 June 2020, 08:08:41 PM
Quite the horde!

Yep, its a bit worrying how much of the table they fill up shoulder to shoulder, and several of these are just parts of armies...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 28 June 2020, 07:29:06 AM
That really does look most impressive, Forbes ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 28 June 2020, 07:36:06 PM
Cheers Phil!

Feudal Japanese

Made a start on these today, (taking advantage of the awful weather) lots of figures prepped, added to painting sticks, and started undercoating.

(https://i.imgur.com/ck7CGp0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 June 2020, 07:58:02 PM
Thats a solid production line there
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 28 June 2020, 10:10:36 PM
Ashigaru


(https://i.imgur.com/jLChfGp.jpg)

Black under coat and grey armour is quick to do!!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Adamwest on 28 June 2020, 10:27:39 PM
No messing about! They look brillaint! Are you painting different clans?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 June 2020, 11:24:44 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 29 June 2020, 05:17:41 AM
Coming on prettily.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 29 June 2020, 07:00:05 AM
 Looking really good, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 June 2020, 08:12:35 AM
Thanks chaps

Quote from: Adamwest on 28 June 2020, 10:27:39 PM
Are you painting different clans?

I'm not sure yet, from what (little) I have read the clans were differentiated by the symbol used, not by colour.

I've not added sashimino to any figures yet, partly from fiddilines and partly from not having decided on clans.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 10:31:49 AM
Good start! Those are some fine looking figures...  8->
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: hammurabi70 on 29 June 2020, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: fred. on 29 June 2020, 08:12:35 AM
Thanks chaps

I'm not sure yet, from what (little) I have read the clans were differentiated by the symbol used, not by colour.

I've not added sashimino to any figures yet, partly from fiddilines and partly from not having decided on clans.

So this would mean paint them all the same but provide different flags (mon?).
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 June 2020, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 10:31:49 AM
Those are some fine looking figures...  8->

Aren't they just! They paint up very nicely - I'm pleased and impressed with these. Which is a good job as I have a big mountain of them!

Quote from: hammurabi70 on 29 June 2020, 01:50:01 PM
So this would mean paint them all the same but provide different flags (mon?).

Possibly - there does seem to be a some preferences over armour colour - I think the Il clan favoured Red armour. Deciding on sashimono designs feels the next big step. And just how many to add to a unit too.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 29 June 2020, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: fred. on 29 June 2020, 05:03:26 PM
Deciding on sashimono designs feels the next big step. And just how many to add to a unit too.

The balancing act of how good a unit of back banners would look vs your own sanity having to affix them all...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 05 July 2020, 08:34:56 PM
Been steadily working on my Sengoku troops

Ashigaru with teppo
(https://i.imgur.com/5eCKP2x.jpg)


Ashigaru with yari
(https://i.imgur.com/Xvo8dvQ.jpg)

Still need to work out what colours / clan to go with for banners. I'm also not sure when the horse hair banners were used. At the minute I am using them at the unit level.

Sohei, Sinobi and Samurai with yari
(https://i.imgur.com/AzjoOBQ.jpg)
The Samurai are taking a lot more painting - trying to get some of the colour onto the armour, while keeping a fairly coherent look

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 July 2020, 09:15:36 PM
Those are ace!  8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 06 July 2020, 07:13:11 AM
Cracking work, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 06 July 2020, 11:10:15 AM
Those are looking really well
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2020, 04:54:22 PM
Thanks chaps

More progress today. A few more units nearly painted, and some test basing of the ones painted earlier.

This force is just enough for an Irregular Wars force - although as it uses several of the 1 stand unit choices I'm not sure it would be that good a force!

(https://i.imgur.com/Z552dTd.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 07 July 2020, 05:04:37 PM
Looking good, Forbes ! 8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 July 2020, 06:34:40 PM
Top work Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2020, 09:54:17 PM
Cheers both

Got all of these stuck onto bases this evening - no photos as I was working in the conservatory and its now cold and dark in there!

I'm really liking the big cannons, very nice models. I feel that I will be needing more Ashigaru Teppo and lots more of the smaller sashimono banners.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 07 July 2020, 10:30:45 PM
I've got some time off this week so was able to get a cheeky game in on Monday. I hosted with my oppo on a video link

Here is a random mid-game photo, I'll see if I get a battle report written up in the next couple of days (it's busy having time-off!)

(https://i.imgur.com/KokrxOI.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 July 2020, 11:06:43 PM
Looks chaotic - therefore looks ace!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2020, 07:20:00 AM
Sounds great fun ! :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 08 July 2020, 07:47:41 PM
It was both chaotic and fun!! My dwarves were heavily outnumbered. But would their quality pull through???


Sengoku Japanese

(https://i.imgur.com/mYMQyJh.jpg)
Got the first batch based up - still need some flock etc, but having a think about what I want to do.

Still need to work out what to do with the banners too.

Got the next batch base coated this afternoon.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 08 July 2020, 08:06:01 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 08 July 2020, 08:16:43 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2020, 08:55:20 PM
Coo...Those are a bit nice, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 July 2020, 09:13:55 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 08 July 2020, 09:46:03 PM
Thanks chaps - I've really enjoyed painting these.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 July 2020, 10:01:35 PM
Started work on the buildings over the weekend. Got a fair amount of basic colours blocked in, still trying to work out what a few of the bits are

(https://i.imgur.com/R6hnX1f.jpg)


Also making progress with the Ashigaru

(https://i.imgur.com/0GnOlnC.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 July 2020, 10:58:43 PM
Like those buildings Forbes, must add some to my collection
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 14 July 2020, 07:18:39 AM
VERY spiffy, Forbes !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 14 July 2020, 08:44:22 AM
Coming along really well
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 14 July 2020, 12:26:44 PM
Thanks chaps - they are coming along nicely

Will, well worth getting some of them
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2020, 09:37:38 PM
More Ashigaru

Got a bunch more Ashigaru painted up, yari, naginta and bows. I really need to make a decision on a clan so that I can do the banners.

(https://i.imgur.com/ajy44Ps.jpg)

Samurai with yari

(https://i.imgur.com/oTF5ZEq.jpg)

I'm less sure about these guys not so sure how well the mixed armour colours work.

And just had an email to say reinforcements are on the way!!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 July 2020, 10:06:07 PM
Looking ace
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: monkeynut on 22 July 2020, 10:38:38 PM
Really impressive Ashigaru units ,like your choice of colours. Looking forward to seeing more ,as and when you complete them.


🐵
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 23 July 2020, 05:04:06 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 23 July 2020, 06:02:45 AM
Glad you like them chaps!

I think basing and banners should be my next focus for these and for the first batch.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2020, 07:29:09 AM
Cracking work, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 23 July 2020, 03:14:12 PM
Those are excellent, well done  :D
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 23 July 2020, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: mmcv on 23 July 2020, 03:14:12 PM
Those are excellent, well done  :D

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 23 July 2020, 09:05:02 PM
Japanese Based

(https://i.imgur.com/WaArm1h.jpg)

23 bases of troops done. 5 samurai, 4 specials and the rest Ashigaru

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 July 2020, 11:07:36 PM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 23 July 2020, 11:15:30 PM
Basing really brightens then up, good to see them all together.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 24 July 2020, 07:30:13 AM
They look the bees' knees, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 July 2020, 08:21:07 AM
Thanks chaps

The green on the bases does really lift the overall look.

This might seem a very odd question, but what kind of domestic and farm animals would have been around in this period? I've got lots of civilians and buildings so a few animals will help decorate them.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 10:02:09 AM
Pigs, smallish cattle, dogs, cats (which the Japanese traditionally admire and fear), poultry, bunnies. Foxes were tolerated as protectors of rice, but also considered natural deceivers and villians.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 July 2020, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: fred. on 24 July 2020, 08:21:07 AM
Thanks chaps

The green on the bases does really lift the overall look.

This might seem a very odd question, but what kind of domestic and farm animals would have been around in this period? I've got lots of civilians and buildings so a few animals will help decorate them.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 10:02:09 AM
Pigs, smallish cattle, dogs, cats (which the Japanese traditionally admire and fear), poultry, bunnies. Foxes were tolerated as protectors of rice, but also considered natural deceivers and villians.

From what I understand animal husbandry was pretty rare in normal villiage life. Diet was largely grains/rice (if they could afford to eat it rather than give it as tax) supplemented with vegetables and fish/seafood. They didn't really go in for large scale animal husbandry the way you would think of it in Europe, so most meat was hunted rather than kept in pens. For adding a bit of animal life it would be more likely some wild boars, deers or pheasants wandering around the outskirts than any sort of concentrated animal presense. There were some native dogs and cats certainly running around, though worth looking up native breeds as I've a feeling native Japanese cats have very short tails (if you're fussed by such things!), though there's a variety of native dog breeds as well. Foxes and tanuki (racoon dogs) feature heavily in the folklore, though again more in the fields and outskirts than amongst people, so depends if you're going for villiage life or more urban.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 11:14:23 AM
Boars must have been fairly common. I've seen a wooden water-powered thumping scareboar machine in a Japanese village museum.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 July 2020, 11:40:46 AM
I think after European contact livestock and meat became more popular, at least amongst the wealthy, but that's quite late in the period when things had settled down. I imagine there were some wealthy peasants who could afford a livestock animal or two but suspect the vast vast majority didn't have the resources to do much more than tend to rice and millet and hunt the odd but of game for special occasions.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 11:48:13 AM
The upper classes enjoyed a bit of meat, I'm sure. They certainly wouldn't have reared it themselves.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 July 2020, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 11:48:13 AM
The upper classes enjoyed a bit of meat, I'm sure. They certainly wouldn't have reared it themselves.

Mostly hunted I think, and eaten for "medicinal purposes", especially when Buddhism was dominant and meat eating was fairly taboo.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 12:06:51 PM
Lee is much amused at that, in her artless Buddhist (and ravenously carnivorous) way.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 July 2020, 12:17:10 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 July 2020, 12:06:51 PM
Lee is much amused at that, in her artless Buddhist (and ravenously carnivorous) way.

As with all religious tenets some take it more seriously than others.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/japan-meat-ban

Maybe a lone ox pulling a plough would work well.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 July 2020, 12:19:17 PM
Thanks all, some good ideas there. But in general it sounds like a few scattered animals not herds
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 26 July 2020, 10:04:38 PM
Starting on the next batch, Sohei and Cavalry

(https://i.imgur.com/PE9e3XK.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 27 July 2020, 07:06:59 AM
Looking pretty zippy, already, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 July 2020, 07:08:48 AM
Coming along well
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: DaveH on 06 August 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Nice work Fred.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 12 August 2020, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: DaveH on 06 August 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Nice work Fred.

Thanks Dave.

Progress has been slow of late,  but I got some al fresco painting done yesterday afternoon

Samurai Cavalry - I think these are the main cause of the slowness, too many different colours needed...

(https://i.imgur.com/Jx6bB1N.jpg)

Sohei - nearly finished. I've mixed in a few Samurai figures - as it seems quite a bit of armour was worn.
I also read yesterday that Sohei May be an anachronistic term as it wasn't used till 100+ years later

(https://i.imgur.com/TxEm8My.jpg)

More Ashigaru
These guys will motor along - black armour highlighted grey is so quick and easy

(https://i.imgur.com/aeXRECW.jpg)



Did some research on Mons so getting close to having something sorted for sashimono and banners.

Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 August 2020, 04:35:50 PM
Looking good Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 12 August 2020, 09:46:59 PM
Coming along well
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 13 August 2020, 06:54:12 AM
Thirded !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 August 2020, 03:38:16 PM
Thanks chaps

Finally got round to making some sashimono last night - and then printed them and cut out today. I'm liking how these look, so might be adding more to units so infantry have 3.

(https://i.imgur.com/nflBE0g.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 13 August 2020, 04:57:49 PM
Looking damn good, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 13 August 2020, 05:28:31 PM
Yes, those look great. The more sashimono the better!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 August 2020, 06:47:39 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 13 August 2020, 08:29:32 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 13 August 2020, 09:11:19 PM
Thanks all, the banners do lift the figures nicely.

But I've now spotted a fair few edges that need tidying up

I'm busy measuring and sizing graphics for the big banners, which unfortunately are a very different ratio to the example ones I have
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 15 August 2020, 09:30:54 PM
Took advantage of the nice weather this afternoon to get some spray varnish on a load of figures painted and based over the last several months (at least)

Renaissance Irish

(https://i.imgur.com/A7RSuTP.jpg)


Elizabethan English and single based fantasy

(https://i.imgur.com/wJfFPBc.jpg)


Sengoku Japanese

(https://i.imgur.com/H9wfD0M.jpg)



Blackgate Ogres

(https://i.imgur.com/Dd9Vitf.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 15 August 2020, 10:16:55 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 August 2020, 11:40:48 PM
Top work.  8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 16 August 2020, 01:12:11 AM
Good work, I always end up having a big backlog build up before I get around to varnishing.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 16 August 2020, 07:16:20 AM
Those look damn fine, Forbes ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 16 August 2020, 10:00:44 AM
Thanks all

Quote from: mmcv on 16 August 2020, 01:12:11 AM
Good work, I always end up having a big backlog build up before I get around to varnishing.

Yep, not quite sure why, maybe it's needing to wait for the right weather to spray things I've moved mainly to brush undercoat and varnish. But a good spray varnish coat helps to seal in the flock as well as give another layer of protection to the figures.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 16 August 2020, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: fred. on 16 August 2020, 10:00:44 AM
Thanks all

Yep, not quite sure why, maybe it's needing to wait for the right weather to spray things I've moved mainly to brush undercoat and varnish. But a good spray varnish coat helps to seal in the flock as well as give another layer of protection to the figures.

Yeah that's probably part of it. I did try a brush on varnish for a while but it was just too much work for doing a lot of figures. I tend to use brush on primer myself, or airbrush. I can't generally get aerosols delivered to me so would have to go to a physical shop and to be honest, air/paint brush is handier. Will have to give airbrush varnish a go once my physically purchased can of varnish runs out.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: DaveH on 19 August 2020, 02:17:26 PM
Good stuff - I might have to try printing sashimono and banners for my 15mm Samurai when I get around to doing them.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 19 August 2020, 10:03:19 PM
Quote from: DaveH on 19 August 2020, 02:17:26 PM
Good stuff - I might have to try printing sashimono and banners for my 15mm Samurai when I get around to doing them.


Thanks Dave. I highly recommend printing the sashimono, they go on very easily, much simpler than decals.

Got some figures based up

Sohei and Samurai

(https://i.imgur.com/Slpzmmo.jpg)

It took an age to do the 8 cavalry. I've got 15 yari armed mounted Samurai in progress, they might take a while to finish...

And some WWI Trailleurs Senegalese

(https://i.imgur.com/hM823xv.jpg)

These are a few extras to round out a Regiment for GWSH.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 19 August 2020, 10:21:26 PM
Looking well, bright cavalry, can see how they took a while!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 August 2020, 10:59:04 PM
Cool
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 20 August 2020, 12:39:04 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno on 20 August 2020, 07:06:51 AM
Very nice, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 20 August 2020, 08:35:31 AM
Thanks chaps
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 15 November 2020, 10:08:30 PM
Not quite sure why it has been such a long gap without posting - October was certainly mad busy with work, but not quite sure what happened in September...

Anyway here are the latest additions fantasy monsters to add to my Sengoku Japanese

Fu Dogs and Oni

(https://i.imgur.com/dUr1UaI.jpg)

Oni and Tengu

(https://i.imgur.com/YLu4akD.jpg)

Figures are from Cromarty Forge. Painted mainly with contrast paints. Gone fairly simple on the paint jobs to take advantage of the detailed sculpts and to reflect the supernatural nature of these.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 16 November 2020, 07:56:06 AM
Those look really good, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 16 November 2020, 08:42:21 AM
Very nice
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Steve J on 16 November 2020, 08:47:42 AM
Very nice work and some lovely figures.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 16 November 2020, 05:36:44 PM
Thanks chaps!  :)

I've now remembered what I did painting wise in Sept (some 40k figures for FFoL Sci Fi) so I will get some photos of them done!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 November 2020, 07:06:58 PM
Excellent Forbes
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 24 November 2020, 09:30:00 PM
Mounted Samurai

Had these chaps on the go for a while but got them pretty much finished tonight - it's hard to know how much detail to add to the armour. I've gone with just 1 or 2 extra colours over the base.

(https://i.imgur.com/plNGetO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rtCM7BE.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 24 November 2020, 09:46:58 PM
Very nice Fred!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 November 2020, 11:13:33 PM
Nice Fred
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ray Rivers on 25 November 2020, 12:28:02 AM
Wow, Fred!

So much goodness in this thread... which I just discovered.  :-bd

Your Samurai are coming out great!  =D>

I wouldn't mind painting them myself but I fear all the detail and know absolutely nothing about the period.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: paulr on 25 November 2020, 06:02:34 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 25 November 2020, 07:54:13 AM
Nice one, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 25 November 2020, 08:16:04 AM
Thanks all - I'm sure I could add some more highlights to these - but not sure they need it, I'm trying to paint an army, not individuals.

Quote from: Ray Rivers on 25 November 2020, 12:28:02 AM
Wow, Fred!

So much goodness in this thread... which I just discovered.  :-bd

Your Samurai are coming out great!  =D>

I wouldn't mind painting them myself but I fear all the detail and know absolutely nothing about the period.

Thanks Ray - if you want to look their are previous years iterations around too - I normally link them in the first post, but for some reason didn't this year.

The Sengoku Japanese troops are great - the Ashigaru are really quick and easy to paint and are the bulk of the forces, then the Samurai take much more painting, but you don't need as many. I didn't know anything much about the period before starting this project, but between a couple of Osprey books and the internet you can find out plenty.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: DaveH on 25 November 2020, 10:17:28 AM
Nice work.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ray Rivers on 25 November 2020, 01:10:44 PM
Hey Fred,

Noticed a lot of your work appears to use a fairly generic base size. What is it? 40x40?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 25 November 2020, 04:46:59 PM
Yep, 40x40mm. We used to play a lot of Warmaster so had loads of 40x20mm and 20x40mm based figures, but over time we have moved to home brew rules (probably via several stops) so 40x40 allowed easy re-use of figures, either with no rebasing (just push to bases together, or even glue two bases together) or with actual rebasing, which I did for lots of missile troops to allow more scattered formations.  This size also seems to work pretty well for various other rules too.

For 20th Century stuff, this doesn't hold true - as figures have been based for other rules, for WWI on 30x30mm for GWSH, and WWII mainly on 50x30mm for BKC.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ray Rivers on 25 November 2020, 06:50:24 PM
Thanks, Fred!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 30 November 2020, 08:54:05 PM
Got basing done on the various Japanese monsters and a few Sengoku figures too

(https://i.imgur.com/nEJhziq.jpg)

The monsters have made a lot more bases than I was expecting to get from the packs - so there are rather a lot of them!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Steve J on 30 November 2020, 09:21:35 PM
Very nice 8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 30 November 2020, 10:04:43 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 01 December 2020, 07:58:11 AM
Coo.....Those look lovely, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 December 2020, 12:14:33 PM
Thanks chaps, I'm pleased with how these have come out, even with pretty simple paint jobs,
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ray Rivers on 01 December 2020, 06:42:49 PM
 :-bd

That's a lot of monsters, Fred!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 December 2020, 07:41:21 PM
Cheers Ray, it is indeed. But I had a count up last night when I put these away in the drawer with the others and I have 30 bases of historical troops, and 20 of monsters. And I have lots more historical ones to paint up.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 December 2020, 08:02:00 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 December 2020, 09:56:59 PM
Got a couple of colours on some archers and Naginata armed Ashigaru tonight. Early stages still but progress is progress

(https://i.imgur.com/WvZNPYl.jpg)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 December 2020, 04:42:19 PM
Epic Space Marines

Played a (remote) game the other night, so took the opportunity to do a parade of my Imperial Fist forces. These are both for 40k and 30k eras. It also gives a chance to show off my new desert mat.

(https://i.imgur.com/PNVpOQf.jpg)

I had a bit of a count too, 619 total figures & vehicles, on 255 stands. 155 vehicles.

I've got a handful more stands to paint up to give me 3s of all troop types. I also did an assignment of marines to transports and rather surprisingly discovered I had enough Rhinos for all the tactical marines, and enough Razorbacks for the Devasators,  

And a few close ups of the back rows

(https://i.imgur.com/pkg8JXa.jpg)
30k AFVs

(https://i.imgur.com/UgV5KGu.jpg)
Speeders, Land Raiders and Predators

(https://i.imgur.com/fAoAUQP.jpg)
Infantry
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 December 2020, 04:45:49 PM
Forbes your second picc isnt showing
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 December 2020, 04:50:41 PM
Ah! Someone else with a large collection of the "Banana Marines" :)

Very nice they are too!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 December 2020, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 29 December 2020, 04:45:49 PM
Forbes your second picc isnt showing

Ta Ian, I'd got a dash rather than an equals in two of the tags  :-[
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 December 2020, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 29 December 2020, 04:50:41 PM
Ah! Someone else with a large collection of the "Banana Marines" :)

Very nice they are too!

Thanks! Epic armies do seem to just grow, perhaps because each bit is so small you feel a few more additions wouldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 December 2020, 06:36:49 PM
Those are brilliant.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 29 December 2020, 07:58:33 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 29 December 2020, 06:36:49 PM
Those are brilliant.

Thanks mate!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 29 December 2020, 10:38:16 PM
Looking great
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 30 December 2020, 08:01:49 AM
Brilliant, Forbes !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 30 December 2020, 10:31:18 AM
Thanks chaps. Might get the other Epic armies out for an airing too
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 30 December 2020, 05:15:14 PM
Epic Squats

Continuing on from the yellow marines, its the green space dwarves...

The whole (painted) force

(https://i.imgur.com/6tpY1Dz.jpg)

354 figures and vehicles on 171 bases. I have loads more infantry and a fair few vehicles and helicopters still to paint, so this can grow a bit more yet.

These seem to do very well as an army - they have a lot of long range firepower, and lots of cheap infantry who can tunnel into claim objectives late in the game.

(https://i.imgur.com/b6DfEpO.jpg)

Warrior infantry and their Rhino APCs

(https://i.imgur.com/7GCwNul.jpg)

Rapier and Tarantula guns, AT and AP respectively

(https://i.imgur.com/LF0Iw7v.jpg)
Thunderfire AA guns - didn't base these due to their large cruciform legs - but wonder if I should?
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 30 December 2020, 06:11:24 PM
Very impressive, Forbes !!

Not sure about basing the guns.  :-\

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 December 2020, 08:10:56 AM
I'd base them Forbes, and add crew
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 31 December 2020, 10:21:02 AM
Thanks chaps

Basing and adding crew might be a good idea, I do have some piles of ammo boxes that came with them, which would look good on a base. I will see what size of base they will fit on.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 31 December 2020, 05:18:10 PM
Epic Tyranids

The last of my 3 epic scale armies - the gribbly Tyranids- a right mixture of manufacturers, with very little from GW's epic range  other than the big bio-titans

(https://i.imgur.com/VRrRJo1.jpg)

491 total figures, on 202 stands. There are a fair few more to be painted, but mainly the bigger AFV sized ones, and another big bio-titan. Really ought to get them finished, as they are pretty quick to paint.

(https://i.imgur.com/SYnxbLI.jpg)
Part painted bio-titan, and some Pendraken figures as Zonthroropes, plus spore mines, and a Dominatrix

(https://i.imgur.com/HHYKPYl.jpg)
The middle sized bio-tian - which gets on the table a lot. Along with carnifex on the left, and rippers on the right


(https://i.imgur.com/km0aybh.jpg)
Trygons in the middle (GW), resin Dactylis (artillery) at the back, and grey Lictors on the right

(https://i.imgur.com/Kxa4Jvv.jpg)
The hordes of gribblies!!

(https://i.imgur.com/vc7E0N2.jpg)
Shooty stuff, Exocrines and Biovores
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 December 2020, 06:14:40 PM
Those are brilliant!  8)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 01 January 2021, 08:11:19 AM
They ARE a bit good !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 January 2021, 10:30:56 AM
High standard again
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2021, 10:44:04 AM
Should we lock this thread now its 2021! ;)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 January 2021, 10:46:11 AM
Well you are a moderator Will  :d
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: mmcv on 01 January 2021, 11:24:26 AM
Superb!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 01 January 2021, 11:46:44 AM
Thanks chaps - these were a fun force to paint up

Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 January 2021, 10:44:04 AM
Should we lock this thread now its 2021! ;)

I've remembered a few figures I want to add (that where painted back in Sept, but I forgot to photograph). Then I'll start a new thread
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 01 January 2021, 01:04:27 PM
Hugs
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2021, 11:43:04 AM
Sci Fi Teams

Various teams for FFoL Galactic Heroes - to finish off the 2020 thread


(https://i.imgur.com/2WNVcar.jpg)
Imperial Guard - painted in Sept


(https://i.imgur.com/9YTZSxT.jpg)
Genestealer Cultists - painted in Sept


(https://i.imgur.com/jL2dkPY.jpg)
Harlequins - not painted, could be an early option for 2021


(https://i.imgur.com/FSxQfVP.jpg)
Tau - with drones and suits and lots of options - painted ages ago
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 02 January 2021, 12:30:50 PM
Very, very nice, Forbes  :-bd

I'm intrigued to know what's causing the indentation on the middle of the bases on some of the wee men. :-\

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2021, 12:39:50 PM
Cheers Phil

They are plastic bases - and that is how they are cast / moulded. I guess I really need to do some more basing than just painting them a grey / brown colour...
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 January 2021, 01:11:47 PM
The slots in those bases are often longer than needed. Only way I have found to cover it is to fill from underneath, very fiddly job
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2021, 01:40:58 PM
I'm assuming Phil meant in the first couple of photos and the last one. These are newer GW bases without slots.

It's only the Harlequins that are metal slotta models with the large slot in the base. A bit of filler should sort those- they often need some to sit right anyway.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 02 January 2021, 02:24:21 PM
It's hardly important......and I don't think they'll really show up "on the table."

But, like I say.... I'm intrigued as to why there's an indentation on some.
Probably a moulded dip in the bases......especially on the g/s cultists.....The 'cups' do look very central.

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2021, 03:57:31 PM
It is odd, why would you go to the trouble of creating that in the surface of the base when setting the mould up.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 02 January 2021, 04:03:03 PM
Is it the injection point on the underside
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Leon on 02 January 2021, 04:07:10 PM
That looks like a pretty productive year there!
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Techno II on 02 January 2021, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 02 January 2021, 04:03:03 PM
Is it the injection point on the underside

Quite possibly, Ian. ;)

But for something that simple, they really should have sorted that out.....But....sigh....life's too short...and it might cost them a fraction of a penny/cent for each one they sell....Which they won't be bothered about.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: fred. on 02 January 2021, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: Leon on 02 January 2021, 04:07:10 PM
That looks like a pretty productive year there!

I think it was in the end - the Samurai and Irish certainly upped the volumes.

Just to point out the Epic stuff was painted a while ago.
Title: Re: Fred - 2020 Painting bits
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 January 2021, 05:16:01 PM
Really nice sir