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Title: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Westmarcher on 16 February 2020, 02:26:29 PM
A slight diversion. My first ever plastic kit was Eagle's WW2 Kriegsmarine pocket battleship, Lutzow (formerly named Deutschland but changed when it dawned on the Nazis what a propaganda coup it would be for the British to sink her). The Admiral Graf Spee was part of the same class of warship and not only did Eagle produce other ships in the Deutschland class but also other famous warships from that era, including a box version of the four ships that participated in The Battle of The River Plate.

So I googled Eagle ship models and found out that the name of the company which manufactured this range of 1/1200 models was actually called Eaglewall and that the kits were originally manufactured in Dorking in the 1960's. I could be wrong but I like to think that one of the game reports included in Donald Featherstone's Naval Wargames featured many of the ship models from this range.  I remembered them as great wee models that gave you the option of building a hull or waterline version plus, in the case of the Lutzow, additional parts to give you the further option of building an early war or re-fitted, later war version. Alas, I only ever owned the Lutzow and, in later years (when I discovered Featherstone's book in the local library), I wished I had sought to acquire more (although what the level of availability was by that time is anyone's guess - Eaglewall only lasted 5 years).

So here is a link I found to a book on the whole subject. You can click on each image to get an expanded version. I also found another link that sells spare parts! (you have to wonder why these were spare - good chance there were two different versions of similar components to provide the kind of options I mentioned above). There are even some instruction leaflets for sale for constructing the models! My only disappointment is that the detail in some models illustrated in the Waterline-Ships website (see other pages) is not as crisp and detailed as I remembered - possibly this is due to me being used to an overall improvement in standards in casting miniatures over the years. However there is mention in the book link that the detail suffered when other manufacturers released versions of some of the models in later years, presumably using the old moulds or copies of these.

Lutzow kit box http://www.steelnavy.com/Images3/EaglewallBook/eag8103.JPG (http://www.steelnavy.com/Images3/EaglewallBook/eag8103.JPG)
Eaglewall's Table Top Navy http://www.steelnavy.com/EaglewallBook.htm (http://www.steelnavy.com/EaglewallBook.htm)
Waterline-ships Eaglewall spare parts http://waterline-ships.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=47 (http://waterline-ships.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=47)

I must confess I didn't do a very good job of assembling the model but I was only a lad at the time and it was my very first attempt. What was your first ever plastic kit?


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 16 February 2020, 02:39:51 PM
Good topic!

Mine was an Airfix 1/72 scale Jet Provost.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Ithoriel on 16 February 2020, 02:48:27 PM
As a child I got sick while on a family holiday in Scarborough. When I say family, perhaps it would be more accurate to say tribal holiday - parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents!

The whole group were supposed to go to the pantomime but it was decided I was not well enough to go. My grandfather nobly sacrificed himself for the greater good and volunteered to stay with me (I'm pretty sure he was relieved to have an excuse not to go :) ). To keep me occupied, knowing my interest in things military, he bought me the Eaglewall River Plate set and we built the ships over the course of the evening.

A couple of years later I discovered Don Featherstone's Naval War Games and River Plate games ensued regularly enough that my bedroom floor became a virtual Iron Bottom Sound :)



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Norm on 16 February 2020, 03:06:52 PM
HMS Belfast ... I think.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: jimduncanuk on 16 February 2020, 03:17:56 PM
Are you expecting me to remember that far back?

Whatever it was it probably cost 2/6 and came in a plastic bag with a paper label.

Circa 1960's


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fred. on 16 February 2020, 03:55:53 PM
Now thatís a question!

Iím really struggling to remember, I can remember many early kits, Lancaster, B52, vosper MTB, all in 1/72nd. But there must have been ones before this as these are all fairly big serious kits. I recall a Henry VIII and a French Grenadier both in 1/12th and I think my Mum helping to paint Henry. I also recall some garden birds, which must have been 1/2 or 1/3rd scale that my Mum painted very artistically.

But the order of the above is rather blurred over the years.



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Steve J on 16 February 2020, 05:46:27 PM
It was an Airfix Fokker Dr1, than was moulded in red plastic. I think I helped my Dad assemble it and he painted the wheels, engine and guns. I can remember if we put decals on it, but I imagine we did. The kit was bought from Renmodels in Cambridge in the early 1970's.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 February 2020, 05:49:54 PM
Airfix RE 8.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Wulf on 16 February 2020, 06:04:10 PM
Airfix F-111, bought for my fifth birthday (and, therefore, in March 1967). I built it a few days later while my parents were at some do or another & my Autie was watching me.

I couldn't figure out the undercarriage, but I wanted it sitting on it's wheels, and discovered that, by turning the main axle piece 90 degrees, it worked, much simplified. SO my first kit was also my first conversion...

I kept it or many years, never painted it. I don't remember actually throwing it out, I think it just disintegrated over time...


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: petercooman on 16 February 2020, 07:30:29 PM
Revell apollo lander

(https://cdn-3d.niceshops.com/upload/image/product/large/default/revell-apollo-11-columbia-eagle-1-st-269405-nl.jpg)

Togheter with star wars ships, i believe this one:

(https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images2/1/1216/06/lot-vintage-1992-mpc-star-wars-tie_1_ea2f5ab7179ec13cd97e34fa6cab15b3.jpg)

i was always a fan of the b-wing. It's my favourite ship togheter with the y-wing. I use them all the time in the x-wing game!


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: mad lemmey on 16 February 2020, 08:07:09 PM
Hawker Hunter and a Tigger Mirth


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 16 February 2020, 10:08:08 PM
Memory is a bit hazy, I think it was the Airfix SRN1 hovercraft.

(https://www.kingkit.co.uk/uploads/shop/large/74320DSCF2357.JPG)

Mum wasn't keen on getting me tanks and bombs.
I duly loaded it up with British Commandos and used it to terrorise the Nazi occupied coast.

Pity it wasn't the larger hovercraft:

(https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2019/12/5/2/1/9/2198968f-8bd0-4ec0-8a5e-8956bf3f1d26.jpg)

Sharp eyes might notice the cunning Bosch attempting to infiltrate Dover on one of their solid-topped Kubelwagens.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 16 February 2020, 10:12:21 PM
Memory is a bit hazy, I think it was the Airfix SRN1 hovercraft.

(https://www.kingkit.co.uk/uploads/shop/large/74320DSCF2357.JPG)

Mum wasn't keen on getting me tanks and bombs.
I duly loaded it up with British Commandos and used it to terrorise the Nazi occupied coast.

Pity it wasn't the larger hovercraft: (About right scale for 10mms)

(https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2019/12/5/2/1/9/2198968f-8bd0-4ec0-8a5e-8956bf3f1d26.jpg)

Sharp eyes might notice the cunning Bosch attempting to infiltrate Dover on one of their solid-topped Kubelwagens.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: sultanbev on 16 February 2020, 11:00:36 PM
I can't remember what the first kit I built was, but the first kit I had was an Airfix Yak-9 in 1/72 that my mum built and painted. Have been pretty much 1/72 kits ever since, none of this heretical 1/35 or 1/48 stuff.

I do remember cycling to Accrington in my wellies to buy the new Matchbox tank kits that had come out, from a random newsagents. Seemed like an outlandish idea at the time.
Two colour plastic kits was revolutionary back then! And subjects that Airfix never did, what a concept for a model firm to do  :o

Mark


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: kustenjaeger on 17 February 2020, 12:32:18 AM
Greetings

I think it was an Airfix WWI biplane my father helped me build.  I know I had a Roland C.II but this might have been later.

Regards

Edward


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Techno on 17 February 2020, 06:22:34 AM
Pretty sure it was an Airfix Spitfire.

I can also remember a Henry VIII model, and 1:12 skeleton.......I think there was some sort of knight, as well.  :-\

Cheers - Phil



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 17 February 2020, 07:38:42 AM
Airfix Churchill - though all those wheels didn't put me off. I ended up with 15 models.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 17 February 2020, 10:01:40 AM
Mine was the SR51? Sanders Roe rocket/jet fighter, and it had no cockpit canopy.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Orcs on 17 February 2020, 10:54:05 AM
I think mine was the Airfix  Fokker Triplane.  it came in a plastic bag.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Steve J on 17 February 2020, 12:37:39 PM
I think mine was in a blister, but may have been a plastic bag :-

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XBIAAOSwm2pd7AwV/s-l640.jpg)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 February 2020, 02:46:15 PM
I remember those plastic bags. The game has changed a bit, hasn't it?


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: andys on 18 February 2020, 08:56:13 PM
An Airfix Zero, something like 58 years ago. when I was around 6 years old. My Dad made it for me one evening and it was waiting for me when I got up the next morning. Don't recall it being painted but it had the transfers on it.

We used to go to the local toy shop religiously every Saturday morning and the bloke who owned the shop would get most of his stock out on the counter for us to pick which model we wanted that week The place was crowded out with small boys and their Dads. The models were those in plastic bags with card top bits bearing artwork of the kit in question. Think they were 1/- or 1/6 or 2/- or maybe even half a crown. Happy, simpler days.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 19 February 2020, 07:34:05 AM
I remember encountering Airfix WWI figures in a toy shop in Germany. The owner had "painted" all the casualties with copious amounts of red paint. He also had only one eye, and the shop was quite dark. Scared the life out of me!


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 19 February 2020, 02:16:00 PM
I think mine was in a blister, but may have been a plastic bag :-

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XBIAAOSwm2pd7AwV/s-l640.jpg)

Ahh, the old Series 1 blister pack. Remember those well. Most of my kits came in those.

Could never work out what the difference was between some Series 1 & 2 kits. IIRC The Tiger and Panther were Series One, but the Pz.VI was a Series Two? Why?

Think I may have had a couple of Series 3 or 4 ship kits - Graf Spee, Ark Royal and HMS Suffolk(?).

Don't think I ever got to the dizzy heights of a Series 5 kit (or higher? Did they go higher?).

Also remembered my first tank was a 1/72 Matilda. Happy memories . . .


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 February 2020, 02:49:20 PM
IV, not VI, I think.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 19 February 2020, 05:39:18 PM
IV, not VI, I think.

Doh!, Yes, of course.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: d_Guy on 19 February 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Likely it was the Revell XSL-01 manned space ship or one of their WW1 bi-planes.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Sunray on 19 February 2020, 08:24:29 PM
An Airfix Sherman - I burnt myself welding the tracks with a hot screwdriver!  :)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 20 February 2020, 04:16:29 AM
Doh!, Yes, of course.

Even I am a blithering idiot at times.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 20 February 2020, 08:04:10 AM
Even I am a blithering idiot at times.
Come, come. Don't put yourself down so.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 February 2020, 09:28:57 AM
Iím not sure... I know I must have some when living ooop north as I recall the covering the Airfix Pontoon bridge bag in the newsagents at the top of Shear Brow (not Hole-in-the-Wall, past the technical college). Bonus non-point if anyone can tell where that is without google :D But I cant recall what.

When we moved to the benighted south (West Midlands) Iím sure I had in fairly short order a Tiger, the kubelwagon & Sdkfz222 set, a Sherman and a Churchill. They all got kit bashed, because I was cr*p at assembly and easily distracted :D

I rapidly changed tack to using my Airfix commandos & paras to seize my model railway trains which were run by evil Nazis who tended to get their just desserts by then being dumped on the track and run over :D


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 20 February 2020, 12:08:57 PM
I rapidly changed tack to using my Airfix commandos & paras to seize my model railway trains which were run by evil Nazis who tended to get their just desserts by then being dumped on the track and run over :D

Hmm, not quite in the spirit of the Geneva Convention. Remember, we're the good guys in this one.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 February 2020, 12:26:52 PM
ďYouthful high spiritsĒ


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 20 February 2020, 12:42:08 PM
Come, come. Don't put yourself down so.

Momentary aberration. Thank you for the words of comfort.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Terry37 on 21 February 2020, 04:55:54 AM
Oh my, that was far too many years ago to even remember. I started modeling in the early 50's and at that time there were only balsa and tissue,  and a few solid wood kits. I think my first one was a solid wood F-86 and made by Stormbecker????   The various parts were roughly shaped and you had to sand them down to the proper shape.  My father, pilot,  was stationed at Clark AFB during the Korean Conflict and that was the type of models I was able to get at the time. I didn't see a plastic model until we returned to the States after the conflict was over - and the first plastic model I saw was an Aurora B-25! Wow! What memories!!!!

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/F-86%202_zpsyuwajle6.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/F-86%202_zpsyuwajle6.jpg.html)

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/F-86%203_zpse56kfh1p.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/F-86%203_zpse56kfh1p.jpg.html)

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/F-86_zpsr0tyuta6.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/F-86_zpsr0tyuta6.jpg.html)

A bit of trivia for you - my fathers bomber, B-25, from WW2 is on he cover of one book, in numerous other books and the box art on 4 different model kits.

 http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/heroes/allanwebb/allanwebb.shtml

Terry


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: paulr on 21 February 2020, 05:11:18 AM
Good to see that 13 was lucky for your father :)

Interesting to see the Crew Chief's name on the aircraft as well as the Commander's :-\


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: mad lemmey on 21 February 2020, 07:54:15 AM
Wow, cool page.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Terry37 on 21 February 2020, 04:37:23 PM
I had wanted to write a book about my father's plane, with the title - "Peggy Lou and the Men Who Flew Her". I found and wrote to many of the men, but except for Fred Lawrence, the crew chief, I was not able to really get very much information. I have pictures of the plane from the day it arrived on the Squadron to the day it crashed, including the crash report. Ended up that I didn't feel I had enough material to achieve what I really wanted so dropped the idea. It's a funny story why the number 13 was put on his plane. Long story short, the ground officer had it in for Fred, so did that to spite him. backfired, as it turned out to be a lucky number!!!

Another piece of trivia, of all the art renderings of the plane not one of them has ever depicted the plane correctly!!! One book even lists the pilot as a fellow that was never in the 445th BS!!! She had four pilots assigned as aircraft commander during eh war, My father was the third.

Here's another piece of trivia. The nose art was a nude girl, but Fred did not want his plane flying around with a nude girl on it, so he painted the outline of an umbrella over most of her!!!!

Terry


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Westmarcher on 21 February 2020, 11:31:46 PM
Great story, Terry.  :-bd


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 February 2020, 12:37:45 AM
What was wrong with this aerial eunuch?


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Terry37 on 22 February 2020, 04:26:54 AM
FierceKitty, if you are referring to the ground officer, the story is this. He thought Fred, dad's crew chief, had written a letter to higher ups about him, which evidently caused him some issue? Truth be told, the ground officer and Fred had a chat at wars end, and when confronted with the accusation Fred told him he'd never written any such letter, and wherever he got that idea it was quite wrong. Of course by then all the damage had been done....except that although Fred had the points to go home, the ground officer had already processed the papers to have Fred assigned to one of the P-61 squadons! So, Fred ended up serving from Operation Torch until after May 8th, 1945. He served in Africa, Corsica, and Italy. Fred lived up into his 80's and was very active in the Bomb Wing reunions up until the very last one.

I have many stories as I attended several of the reunions and got to know the men who served with my father, and they were always happy to share stories with me. Until the day my father died, he never talked much about the war, as it always bothered him that he had dropped bombs killing people.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%204%202_zpszfb0fbqe.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%204%202_zpszfb0fbqe.jpg.html)
Early in Peggy Lou's history. Fred is left, talking to Mal Rygh, the first pilot and the one who named her. he named her after his girl back home, but ended up not marrying her after the war. I would need to look up the name of the asst. crew chief on the ladder, but he is painting another bomb for a mission on the nose. Note that only the name appears on the starboard side, and not the nose art, which was only on the port side.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%201%203_zpsan0vffje.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%201%203_zpsan0vffje.jpg.html)
Here she is a Wright-Pat after the war shortly before she crashed. The crash should never have happened and was due to pilot error. A Major and a Lieutenant were flying her around the base to get in their flight time one evening in September when a sudden thunder storm came up. They were ordered to land, which was fine. The error was that although both pilots were IFR trained, they kept flying using VFR and flew her into the ground! Fortunately the plane did not catch fire, but broke into many, many pieces. The only way to know which plane it was from the photos of the crash is because part of the fuselage with the serial was intact.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%205%202_zpslzxvh9l1.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Peggy%20Lou%205%202_zpslzxvh9l1.jpg.html)
Peggy Lou on a mission. Would have to look up 09 to tell you who she is.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/003513_43-27698%20Peggy%20Lou%202_zpsara3fkxr%203_zpsyilbxulz.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/003513_43-27698%20Peggy%20Lou%202_zpsara3fkxr%203_zpsyilbxulz.jpg.html)
This is the most used picture of her. Dropping frag bombs on German AA batteries. A lead section would fly ahead of the main group to do this to hopefully lessen the amount of FLAK. The plane on her starboard is 02, Pistol Pack'n Mama, Dan Bowling's plane, but on this mission was being flown by Norm Doe.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Scott%20and%20Holly%20at%20Dads%20Grave%201_zpssez51aim.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Scott%20and%20Holly%20at%20Dads%20Grave%201_zpssez51aim.jpg.html)
My father's final resting place, with my son and granddaughter. He was buried with full military honors.

Sorry, did not mean to hijack the thread.

Terry


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 February 2020, 05:41:50 AM
I was referring to the one who appeared to dislike the female form.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Steve J on 22 February 2020, 07:15:34 AM
Fascinating reading Terry and great you have been able to find out so much information.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 February 2020, 01:41:50 PM
Sorry, did not mean to hijack the thread.

Wouldn't count that as a hijack. Fascinating stuff.



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: paulr on 22 February 2020, 06:54:12 PM
I was referring to the one who appeared to dislike the female form.
Different times, different norms FK It was probably also about where the form was...

Wouldn't count that as a hijack. Fascinating stuff.

Seconded, good to hear that you have it all written down, too many of these stories get lost over time

Also great to see your granddaughter is following in your father's footsteps


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: grahambeyrout on 17 March 2020, 01:10:16 PM
If Wikipedia is to be believed I bought an example of the first Airfix kit sold in Woolworth, namely the Golden Hind. It seems I have secured a place in history


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Aksu on 18 March 2020, 05:33:37 AM
Airfix 1/72 Fairey Firefly Mk V.
Assembled it with me dad and wad disappointed when it did not have decent gliding abilities when thrown. I must have been five.
Cheers,
Aksu


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 March 2020, 10:10:10 AM
Aksu, I bet *everyone* here tried that with at least one kit!

I think mine was a Mustang, which certainly did not have it's real world performance, being akin to a lawn dart.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 18 March 2020, 10:27:35 AM
I think mine was a Mustang, which certainly did not have it's real world performance, being akin to a lawn dart.

I had an F104 Starfighter which behaved like a lawn dart. Which mirrored reality quite well, from what I can gather.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: jimduncanuk on 18 March 2020, 11:35:33 AM
I had an F104 Starfighter which behaved like a lawn dart. Which mirrored reality quite well, from what I can gather.

I was at an air museum in the States a few years ago. One of the exhibits was an F104 Starfighter.

'Some folks called it a lawn dart' the elderly guide said.

'I've heard it called a widow maker' I said.

He got a bit grumpy thereafter.



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Aksu on 18 March 2020, 11:58:48 AM
My aerodynamic experiments did not result in tragedy as I had used thick yellow house paint to finish the model. Virtually indestructible it was.
I have seen some marginal improvements on my models after transitioning to Vallejo acrylics.
Aksu


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 March 2020, 12:58:12 PM
I have a soft spot for the old house painted figures and models ;)

Had a TIE Fighter one I did in gloss metallic drain pipe paint I think.

Boy did it stink, you could reach orbit with a "weeeeeeeeee" off it :D

Jim, that's about right - I think the Bundeswer Luftwaffe certainly called it the Widowmaker, they had a terrible time with it :(


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 18 March 2020, 02:20:13 PM
The downward firing ejector seat was a great help !


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 March 2020, 03:27:18 PM
You'd wonder how and why anyone bought them, let alone so many, but a/ the performance was exceptional, and b/ don't mention the massive bribery and corruption scandals.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 18 March 2020, 04:13:14 PM
The massive bribery and corruption scandals !!!

It was also used as a strike aircraft at low level,  when designed as a high altitude point defence interceptor  - good call  ;) ;)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 March 2020, 04:42:41 PM
"Hey this looks pretty good, but it's got some competition, and we don't need a point defense interceptor"

*Lockheed rep slides briefcase of cash to buying officer*

*Airforce buys two hundred of them as fighterbombers*


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: chrishanley on 14 April 2020, 12:17:22 PM
A couple of points to add in this thread. In the fledgling post war Luftwaffe, the F104 Starfighter was simply the wrong aircraft for the task. The sales team at Lockheed, with the aid of a substantial bung, sold this supersonic high altitude interceptor as an all weather ground attack fighter/bomber. It is doubtful if any post war aircraft was more unsuitable for the task it was used for.
Meanwhile, back to my first plastic kit...
Mine was a 1/32nd scale Airfix Renault Dauphine bought by my Grandmother, anything with guns would have been far too violent...
I know I made a complete mess of making it, got glue on my trousers and got told off. Fortunately my Grandfather was a wonderful kindly man with great patients and lots of encouragement. Every time they came to visit he would insist on seeing my latest creation.
From then on I was mad keen on making "Airfix" models, but the problem was the instructions. Unlike the multi-national step by step pictures with arrows and symbols of today, the early instructions had an exploded view of all the parts and a numbered sequence of descriptions.
For example, and this is a direct quote from an Airfix kit, circa 1966.
1. Locate and cement window transparencies (1-4) from inside port and starboard fuselage halves (5,6) applying cement to window surrounds only.
Huge points for anyone who can guess the kit... Clue, it was a Dogfight Double.
As you can imagine the instructions were quite a challenge for a young lad, so needs must and I therefore learnt to read by making Airfix models...

  


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: paulr on 15 April 2020, 03:46:54 AM
Me109 maybe


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Aksu on 15 April 2020, 05:03:16 AM
In these ikea times you have to admire the youngsters of old! Of course it probably does good for the old grey brain cells to decipher verbal instructions. I've also heard that early Meccano instructions had intentional mistakes in them to make the child learn problem solving. You just couldn't build the model if you slavishly followed the guidance.
Cheers,
Aksu
PS never built a Starfighter, but for what it's worth I've always thoughg it is one beautiful plane.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 April 2020, 05:35:40 AM
I found the verbal instructions very helpful, in fact.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: chrishanley on 16 April 2020, 11:21:56 AM
Me109 maybe

Sorry, wrong war.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: smallchild139 on 16 April 2020, 01:07:59 PM
Was the kit the Cessna from the Cessna/Mig 21 dogfight double. That had lots of transparency in it.

Mark


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 16 April 2020, 01:55:49 PM
Was the kit the Cessna from the Cessna/Mig 21 dogfight double.

That's . . . a bit of an odd couple. Think the dogfight would be slightly one-sided.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 16 April 2020, 02:16:15 PM
I dunno, that West German kid flew his Cessna right into Red Square without alerting Soviet Air Defence. It might not be so one sided as you'd think ;)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Nirnman on 16 April 2020, 03:22:04 PM
It being more years ago than I can be certain of remembering accurately I think my first or nearly the first was a one-sixth scale Chinese mandarin figure produced buY Airfix (I think/he was one of a series of figures that include henry VII, Queen Elizabeth, a Lifeguard, a Yeoman of the Guard and Anne Boleyn.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Smoking gun on 16 April 2020, 03:32:24 PM
Unlike the multi-national step by step pictures with arrows and symbols of today, the early instructions had an exploded view of all the parts and a numbered sequence of descriptions.
For example, and this is a direct quote from an Airfix kit, circa 1966.
1. Locate and cement window transparencies (1-4) from inside port and starboard fuselage halves (5,6) applying cement to window surrounds only.
Huge points for anyone who can guess the kit... Clue, it was a Dogfight Double.
As you can imagine the instructions were quite a challenge for a young lad, so needs must and I therefore learnt to read by making Airfix models...
  

I learnt of technical language and improved my vocabulary by following the Airfix instructions, the cars and locomotive kits were full of, to a young boy, strange new words.

Martin


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 April 2020, 03:35:07 PM
I'm still rather pleased to remember working out for myself what the "male" and "female" sections were that needed fastening together. Long before sex meant anything but reproductive biology to my innocent little mind.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: smallchild139 on 16 April 2020, 06:03:59 PM
That was a real set.  Bizarre but true... :)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 16 April 2020, 09:02:00 PM
(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/6/4/197164-11185-60-pristine.jpg)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 16 April 2020, 09:53:30 PM
Nice inversion of the power dichotomy in Vietnam there :D


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: chrishanley on 17 April 2020, 07:50:07 PM
Bit of a one sided dog fight. Was the Cessna armed?


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 17 April 2020, 08:36:28 PM
IIRC, the Cessna had rockets, but I think they were more for signalling than anything else. 


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: howayman on 17 April 2020, 09:03:10 PM
I've read this thread and the sad thing is i can not remember my first plastic kit.
The first figures were US 7th cavalry, Airfix of course. But plastic kit just escapes me.
 I must be getting old.   :-X


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 18 April 2020, 08:20:13 AM
I must be getting old.   :-X

Tell me bout it.... ;)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 18 April 2020, 08:30:57 AM
I remember my brother made the Airfix Napoleon.
(https://www.kingkit.co.uk/uploads/shop/large/21027SDC13158.JPG)
Only problem was, he put the legs on backwards.  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Bren on 18 April 2020, 10:58:18 AM
Airfix 1/72 Strikemaster, painted with Humbrol enamels.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Techno on 18 April 2020, 11:03:30 AM
Who remembers the Airfix paints, in small glass bottles ?

Were those 'thick', or what ?  :o :o

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Raider4 on 18 April 2020, 11:14:23 AM
Who remembers the Airfix paints, in small glass bottles ?

I remember the Airfix paints, but the ones I bought came in tins, slightly higher but narrower than the equivalent Humbrol paints.

Much smaller range than Humbrol (who seemed to do thousands of different tins), split into matt & gloss. I remember M3 was Olive Green, because you painted all your Shermans & Churchills in that colour.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 April 2020, 11:28:36 AM
People painted those kits!!??  :o


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 18 April 2020, 11:29:15 AM
My first (original) German infantry were painted in Airfix gloss green and Airfix gloss brown.

I think I still have some somewhere.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Orcs on 18 April 2020, 11:57:32 AM
Who remembers the Airfix paints, in small glass bottles ?

Were those 'thick', or what ?  :o :o

Cheers - Phil

Just about, Tins were just coming in when I started painting models


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 18 April 2020, 11:58:32 AM
My first (original) German infantry were painted in Airfix gloss green and Airfix gloss brown.

I think I still have some somewhere.

From [photos you still do !  :P


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 18 April 2020, 06:47:21 PM
Oooooh! Owww! That stings!  :P



Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: fsn on 18 April 2020, 06:49:48 PM
(http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/AirfixPaint.gif)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Edmund2011 on 20 April 2020, 01:00:30 AM
I still remember it!

Brewster Buffalo from Matchbox that my father bought for my brother and me. He bought us also WWII Matchbox Germans, US and British 1/76 figures. The beggining of it all... :)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49795592747_dfe304d246.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49794739958_45afc7b8f6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iSgqSx)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 April 2020, 01:31:58 AM
The little plane that couldnít! Lovely :)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: FierceKitty on 20 April 2020, 03:30:43 AM
Well done for avoiding "for my brother and I"! A hanging offence if ever I saw one.  ;D

(How's that for a hijack?)


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Jaakari on 21 April 2020, 11:03:12 AM
That would be the Airfix 1/72 Cessna bird dog


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: ianrs54 on 21 April 2020, 11:39:41 AM
No sneaking in Jaakari - Hi on your 1st post.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: mad lemmey on 21 April 2020, 12:03:43 PM
Hello and welcome


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: DaveH on 21 April 2020, 12:33:26 PM
I can't remember but it would have been an Airfix kit I'm sure, probably either a tank or fighter. I suspect it could have been something like the Spitfire Mk I.

I remember buying the miniatures and kits as a kid including the human skeleton.


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: Techno on 21 April 2020, 03:55:13 PM
That would be the Airfix 1/72 Cessna bird dog

Welcome from me, too. :)

Cheers - Phil


Title: Re: What was your first plastic kit?
Post by: paulr on 21 April 2020, 08:15:26 PM
Welcome Jaakari  :-h